British Multi-Terrain Pattern Effectiveness
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this video we test the effectiveness of British Multi-Terrain Pattern (MTP) in a heavily vegetated woodland environment. By watching this video you should get a good idea on how the pattern preforms in this type of environment while both stationary and moving.
MultiCam’s excellent color palette combined with the superior brushstroke DPM pattern is a winning combination.
As someone who owns both Multi Terrain Pattern & Multicam I couldn’t agree with you more.
I'm impressed at how effective British MTP is, surprising considering that it's color scheme virtually the same as US multicam and yet it outperfomed it. In my opinion MTP was way more effective than multicam and my favorite thing about it is that it was effective at every distance it didn't black blob. Great job man keep up the good work.
DPM has always been a very good camo, and combined with the excellent coloration choice of Multicam seems to be a winning combination.
If I understand, it was a pattern started in the US then adapted by the British. There's a fine history of that sort of thing happening in both directions.
@@G1NZOU Not sure which enviro you are talking about with regards to Multicam but you got to understand the limitations of the camo to best see that it needs to be moved on.
@@noshame7472 Multicam has some limitations, but what are you talking about it needs to be "moved on"?
The UK did a great job by doing it right with no nonsense when it came to change camo from DPM to MTP, they spent money wisely and changed to something that works.
Meanwhile the US kept changing camo, adopting different camo for different services, and then changed its mind and partially went back to sharing camo across services, each time they did that they spent more money.
MTP will not work perfectly in all environments, however it works well enough that it won't need updating to a new camo for a long while yet, there are way more important things to spend money on in the MoD right now like new frigates, new nuclear deterrent submarines, new aerial and underwater drones, a replacement or fix for the new Ajax vehicles, and potentially a new self propelled howitzer.
Just changing camo for something better every few years does not provide adequate improvements for the cost of replacement, it just doesn't make sense.
@@G1NZOU Hi No worries I understand what you mean and agree. But when have you ever seen the Army keep something that works? The industrial military supply machine is already looking at phasing out MTP/OCP as well with a date to do this, Sorry. You know and I know that contracts take priority over real time 'what might work', we are looking at moving back into the digital realm again, as my sources tell me in the MOD and aboard? Just look at the stock market spec's and the jigsaw puzzle this is? MTP/OCP was only made to replace another contract as it will happen again in a few years time. Sorry man that's life? Not sure what they got but a different type of UCP will be coming as in digital or something not sure.
I love DPM, but when wet, it looks almost black. I noticed this many times in the field. After seeing this video, I'm sold on the new pattern.
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Same, I've seen a more recent photo of a joint training op with French soldiers, and while the MTP looked just fine when wet and blended well with the mud background, the CE camo the French were wearing had the same problem of looking way too dark when wet that DPM had.
Same with me I joined the paras in 2005 and have done several tours of Afghanistan and Iraq and while I love dpm I’d say mtp is much better. From what I have noticed most people who complain about mtp complain about everything that changes in the army the “back in my day” type. Although I would be lying if I said I didn’t miss that desert dpm camo
@@alexmcdowall9562 yep exactly, the same people were moaning when DPM first came out as well. No matter what replaces the SA80 they will complain about it. They drive me mad.
As a Brit, I'd swear by this camouflage pattern any day of the week! I use my set of MTP as often as possible, in woodland environments. Great video, as always! Keep it up!
Thanks brother.
same here
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I love your videos. Funny how staying away from bright colors and just being still is perhaps the best camouflage. I know that a deer standing still is hard to detect even though it is a solid brown animal. As a hunter, I've noticed that movement or lack there of is the most effective way of being undetected; however, blending in is a crucial element. I appreciate your videos and think you are doing a great job. Please keep up the good work.
Deer have much worse vision than human beings. As long as you wear a disruptive pattern that disguises your silhouette, they are easily fooled. Check out the work being done over at Sitka with their Optifade patterns.
Deer are not a single blob of colour though which is also why they blend in seemingly anywhere
When this was first issued I had my doubts, but I now think its better than Woodland DPM. Woodland DPM is too dark. I still think Desert DPM in a desert setting was very very effective, and in that environment maybe the best camouflage I've seen. I dont think the MTP fills that need so well.
***** I saw British troops in Iraq back in 2003 and 2004 in Desert DPM and it looked like a very effective pattern. I'll say down in those areas we were in where it was primarily desert, MTP definitely wouldn't have been a better option. However, when I was in southern Afghanistan there were areas that were literally lush with vegetation like Vietnam and then there were areas as dry and open as the deserts of Iraq all within miles of each other. In that scenario I think the utility of having a pattern like MTP definitely is the way to go.
OK. Thanks.
Definitely, DPM works great in a thick dark forest, or jungle, but everywhere else the MTP tends to outperform it, and with thick foliage you can somewhat counteract MTP's disadvantage by using extra brush and branches to camouflage yourself, out in the open where you'll be relying on your camo exclusively in the absence of concealment I'd rather have MTP.
As cadets we get issued this and as shown in the video it's surprisingly good in green woodland environments. Great work as always man keep it up 👍
I'm in air cadets, what part of cadets are you in? We get issued these too.
haha we still get issued the old dpm webbing in my section dammit
@@OKA4LIVE Army mate
MTP is awesome camo I got full set in my wardrobe so comfy.
I use Brit MTP here Norcal for a variety of reasons - the colors and patterns do well in the local bush,it's not US issue, and Rhodesian can't be found ... I use the style w/ vertical pockets on the breast (velcro) not the pockets w/Cad. buttons. Standard trousers. US multicam items fill in where I can not get Brit items w/ good enough color / pattern match. Great videos Brent ! You've done all the projects I could only dream of doing back in my day - long before the internet ....outstanding work !
Matt Johnston Thanks brother, I appreciate it.
Why wouldnt you be able to find good enough pattern match if you get mtp?
MTP and Rhodesian Brushstroke share a heritage, they both are related to the original brushstroke pattern on the denison smock, MTP being the child of it and DPM
I have this pattern and an old US M81 woodland , in South-eastern Europe forests the MTP stands out like a lemon at times vegetation here is pretty damn green, but the good old m81 fits almost perfectly in these parts. Great video !
Thanks brother
Dragomir Petrov Surprised an eastern european likes US camo.
As another Eastern European (actually, I think the guy who posted that comment is from the same country as me) I can say MTP is great for our terrain, because it's a bright pattern. Most wooded areas have a combination of green and grey colours and MTP blends in perfectly!
They should make them reversible. Old for dusk or dull days. New for clear sunny days. Just a thought....
If its dull or dark, your camo will change the same way as your environment and its sunny and bright the same applies
@@isbee56
Fair comment 👍🏼
Maybe make reversible for seasons 🤔
The Germans did it in ww2. Camo and white.
Shape, shine, shadow, silhouette, sound, movement. Interesting that the sound came first in giving your position in most cases, then movement, then shadow under your elbows/dark green of your webbing. Great video.
It's bloody good stuff tho it was DPM in my day. DPM is still effective in the right environment altho most people don't realise is it was designed primarily for fighting in the dark forests of East Germany, Poland ect during the cold war and fir jungle warfare hence the darkness of the colour dyes.In a jungle environment the MTP has been proven to be too light and ineffective compared to DPM for concealment
Dpm was spot on for Europe environment ,
This looks like a drunk designed it for hiding around a garden pond it's all wrong for Europe ,
You stick out like a sore thumb in evergreen forests, in winter you might aswell wear neon and in summer lie in the long grass because it just doesn't work against tree foliage either .
Absolute trash of a design to think this replaced Dpm is a travesty .
@@toritori4430 Yes but it is used in arid environments now, the idea was to get rid of the need for 2 separate uniforms for desert and woodland. Hence 'multi terrain pattern' I've worn both, I massively prefer MTP. DPM is still available for special forces that operate in jungle environments.
There was the lighter jungle variant of DPM in the past, though they seemed to have phased that out come cs95. I guess by then we had a smaller, less active army post cold-war. I saw a lot of videos of soldiers invading iraq in woodland DPM and that was as bad as anything, if they kept the jungle variant it might've helped them a little bit in Afghan and Iraq pre-MTP.
@@koolyman tropical DPM used much brighter, vivid colours than standard DPM. I brought a load back from Brunei and wore the trousers when on exercise as they were not lined and dried a lot quicker than the standard lined DPM. It was very different in colour.
I think MTP is better than DPM, mainly because it reflects its environment rather than DPM trying to emulate its environment
it's more effective, but that's just the colours. The pattern looks shitty and ugly with all those blotches. I wish we just had DPM in MTP colours. DPM was the best, I still like wearing MTP though as I know it's more effective, I have more trust in it
Yeah there's very little chance of making it look any more like DPM, especially because of all the fading between khaki and green. Definitely the MTP is more pleasing to look at up close than Multicam. You can see the DPM heritage in MTP.
+koolyman actually looking closely at the pattern, it looks just like DPM, it's just the white and dark brown which has the weird blotchyness which throws it off
DPM is better in woods but MTP is versatile.
Im a huge Fan of the MTP - but the DPM is stronger in special terrain.
The MTP works allmost everywhere, but no where perfect.
But I think thats the great adventage: In reallity, you wont spent the whole time of a war in a deep dark mid-summer european forrest ;)
Brent it shows how much work you put into every video you make!
P.S. Also you can get an MTP smock which is an awesome piece of kit. Some say the best jacket ever made.
agreed. LOVE mine !
It is the best jacket ever made. I love the fleecy hand warmers lol.
Surprised to see how well MTP worked in a vegetated environment. Nice as always.
MTP and Multicam is an interesting evolution of the basic M81 Woodland and DPM, not sure if it is an improvement though.
I respectfully disagree, they are both more similar to Flecktarn not in the colors as Flecktarn is darker but in the shape of the colored sections of the pattern. DPM and Woodland have much bigger sections in the pattern. I like them both, they work good in VA in summer but not so much in the fall where Flecktarn is better. One thing about the actual uniforms The british ones are way better quality and more functional and they also have a lightweight version which is great in a hot sticky VA summer and a standard version whick is equivalent to the US Multicam. I've used the US issue and Propper and Tru-Spec and none of them are as good as the PCS issue MTP.
@@HankDCFC Yes the US tend to make their uniforms in a nylon-cotton blend, but the UK tends to issue theirs in polycotton - which comes out as light as pyjamas
@Dimitri Dragunov Me being able to spot the guy's position in this video most of the times (because of the lighter uniform colors) makes your comment quite valid. Still in lighter spots MC is truly excellent!
@Dimitri Dragunov Agree! I hope they come with something like such, or even better, i.e start developing active camo materials for personnel :)
@Dimitri Dragunov I think you misunderstood the "i.e" I wrote. "i.e" is the equivalent of the word "meaning". So what I was saying is "they should start developing active camo for personnel", I wasn't referencing myself for sure 😏
For the time being, there is apparently an alternative from a company called UF-PRO especially their uniform of multiple IR spetrum invisibility, have a look: ruclips.net/video/dvT2Tptuqfw/видео.html ... It sure looks very nice but the commercial video neglects the surrounding terrain temperature which would make any moving shape with different temperature stand out in thermal scopes/imagers. Also check their website ufpro.com and scroll down a bit for MC/Flecktarn/Concamo side by side pictures.
But if you want to see real adaptive camo check the *amazing* 👍👍 stuff from Canadian company Hyperstealth www.hyperstealth.com/ ... I was checking them since many years ago but their multi-spectrum light bending tech "Quantum Stealth" is top secret and wasn't shown to the public. But now (after losing a large contract with a bureaucratic US Military who apparently dropped invisible uniforms project [www.hyperstealth.com/Quantum-Stealth/index.html .. news updates down page] and after registering their patents) they have plenty of videos on the website explaining their tech.
Videos are taken in office environment using panels of the classified "Quantum Stealth" version, but imagine those portable light bending panels being used in a jungle scenario! That is some actual "PREDATOR" movie kinda stuff, would be too awesome to watch! 😲
They also have great uniform/vehicle/buildings camo patterns, check them out.
Sorry for the long comment, but you seemed interested and I like sharing 😎
Thank you Brent - Great Tactics / Great camouflage / Great Video. Thank you for your service.
Always been unsure of the MTP until I bought it. This video proves it's better, all though it does reflect light a lot more then DPM so usIng foliage on the MTP may be necessary. I own both MTP and DPM smock and trousers and would now probably never go back to DPM. I'll look forward to wearing it properly as a british regular. Great vids and now subscribed.
Thanks
Unbeleivably good camo,and I only spotted you twice. If you keep down on the ground,your invisible. Thanks for the great video Brent!
MTP is a lot like OCP.
Both used in Afghanistan. It's funny how two forces get put in similar circumstances and come out with different but similar patterns.
That is what happens if all copy the homework from the A-student and try not to come along as if they copied it straight. So they make minor changes to not be caught.
@@justdoit4834 Not quite true, the UK approached Crye with the idea that since MultiCam performed well overall in testing, they wanted a Brit variant which still showed the British forces identity up close with the DPM pattern elements, so co-developed MTP. Same reason Australian MultiCam is a MultiCam variant but with BunnyCam shaped elements to it and an altered colouration to match Australian environmental colours, camo uniforms are triple purpose, firstly they blend and conceal, secondly once you're actually spotted by an enemy they break up your outline to give you a split second before the enemy's brain realises they're looking at a human target, thirdly once you're up close and spotted by friendly allies they can look at your uniform which identifies you as belonging to a certain branch/country. If everyone used MultiCam there'd be too much confusion and possibly friendly fire if the enemy also used it, so variations in pattern for recognition are a good thing.
I reallly like how you did that, hiding then letting us find you. Great practice.
enjoyed your series on the various camo's in field use... uber kool
was challenging myself to spot Brent before he moved, only just managed, it's really good camo! if you weren't specifically looking for a hiding person... you'd never spot them!
I honestly think this is the best camouflage pattern there is out there.
Next time you test a camo, don't wear any big olive green stuff on your belly, this is what give you away, makes you darker and your movement more visible (because of the contrast with the lighter general MTP camo color)
Thanks for this. I'm going to use this with my cadets to see if they can spot you. They keep saying MTP isn't as good as DPM in the woods, I think your video proves them wrong. :-)
Memomomomo Mo Thanks for watching.
Wow that camo was one of the most effective I've seen on your channel.
Great Vid.
I like the distant. & close-up comparisons.
You do a GREAT JOB at showing your camo's
Thanks man.
I just watched this and the ATACS AU pattern vids and wow do those work well, I watched some others like the German rain pattern the Flecktarn the Woodland camo and I could spot you most of the time, at least 70% on avg and some of them almost 100% but the multicam/british MTP and the ATACS are amazing I just had to guess, I picked the most odd looking thing and assumed it was you, and I was wrong most of the time. I probably was getting your position right 35% of the time with those two patterns.
Ive mostly got multicam stuff, and live where the terrain looks alot like where you are, except it stays pretty green in the winter so im very happy with my choice.
A very good video. The British Multi-Terrain Pattern can also complement each other well by products of Leo Köhler in Multicam
Really interesting video. Seems pretty effective even in very green areas, which it isn't primarily designed for. Keep it up, your videos are really interesting.
tommyboy560 Thanks
I picked up a few sets of this camo at a very affordable price and plan to use it turkey hunting in springtime and for waterfowl in September. I really like the smocks for all the features they come with.
your video shows quite nicely the key to not being seen is to remain absolutely still. this looks like midday and sunny.it would be nice to show us the same environment but in different light; overcast, early/late.
well thank you for your service!
+Nickolas Smullen Thanks, I appreciate it.
Very interesting vid. I didn't see you once until you moved. Looking at the mtp and dpm side by side logic would say the dpm would better in a woodland enviroment but the mtp is still very effective.
Ian Deakin I agree, there is no doubt that a pattern designed for specific environments are more effective in their respective environments. But with that being said, I can totally see the versatility in multi environment patterns. Where I was at in Afghanistan you could be patrolling through dry deserts with no vegetation, and a few hundred yards away all the sudden your in a lush vegetated area.
I use this type of camo for wildlife photography and it blends in much better than Woodland or DPM. Especially because animals see different colors than humans the tans and browns blend you in very good.
It's a lighter environment in that early summer so is very good (better than I thought), OzCam would be very good there too.
As an Army Cadet, I have to say, it is actually comfortable and works well when we go outdoors, I do though however prefer DPM, it in my opinion looks way better and more iconic, I have some surplus DPM I use to knock around in or to play Airsoft in
I wear this camo at U.K. Army cadets and on a night exercise, my section were prone in the foliage and the enemy patrolled within a metre of us and never saw a thing of us.
you see the issue with that is that a person could be wearing hot-pink and not be seen in the night, it doesnt change much
I did that on day time down to 2 meters undetected on the DPM whilst prone and standing still. Nighttime, I got to within 5 meters of my CO in front of him before detected... on open ground. MTP better for hiding movement though. Only had DPM on my CCF days back then.
mtp does glow in the dark when compared to dpm though
Army cadets get up to some shit wish I done it now oh well joined the real army haha
Actually spotted you a lot in this one. It just sticks out in a lot of situations
I spotted you every time
This pattern is too flat for this environment. In my opinion all the multi-environment camos are terrible outside of arid rocky areas.
I'd say this is marginally better than multicam/OCP, but only just. I'm not sold on it, at least for this sort of environment. It's too flat, not enough macro pattern contrast to break up the human silhouette. Spotted you quickly in most of them.
Outstanding, doesn't become a dark blob like some other patterns.
Any plans to do a video on one of the Belgian "jigsaw" camo patterns? I always thought it was kind of strange but maybe good in a dense woodland area during Fall, at least for the price you can get it for.
I actually filmed Jigsaw the same day I filmed MTP, I just haven't had time to edit it and upload it yet.
I'm going to be one of the dissenters about the effectiveness of MTP after seeing this video. It just seems too light. While others have commented about it not going black at a distance, it seems to me that it goes white. In most scenes, my eye was drawn to where you were before you moved because it was the light spot.
It might work better later in the summer when the foliage gets that more faded out look pre-fall.
We want now review of PENTAGON grassman, so we can compare British MTP, Multicam, and Helicon-Tex Camogram. All 4 look very similar, but still significatly different. My vote already goes for Grassman as it incorporate more of green which MTP lacks.
We spoke before about Scandinavian camo. I just got a Swedish M90 set and compared it size wise with my MTP windproof. The Swedish 190 is a little bit smaller than my 180 MTP, the 180 M90 pants fit me perfectly. I Am glad that I had a chance to try before buy. As with the German surplus snow suit, the 190 was a better fit but the arms are a little short. I am 178 but I do like a long sleeve that doesn't ride up the arms whilst firing. I hope this helps.
I forgot to say, the Swedish size system uses height and kilos. A 44 inch chest for me was a 95kg jacket.
perfect environment for MTP.
developed by Crye Precision for the british military,
the home grown MoD multi terrain pattern developed,
just lost out on the final field trials,
Good deal brother, thanks for the info I didn't know that.
*****
google: Hybrid DPM .. it occasional pops up on ebay,
As I have posted on your previous DPM video. The MTP kits looks too light for a UK environment . I saw you several times before you moved towards the camera. My neighbour who also likes going into the woods and practising Bushcraft prefers the MTP, but I prefer DPM, especially as my jacket/trousers are now well worn in and faded a little to take away any sharp shapes/colours. To me it looks like the UK Government went the way of combining camouflage patterns, so they didn't have to issue separate kit for UK /European woodland and Desert use.
The MTP pattern was specifically designed for Afghanistan. Whilst the desert DPM worked well in arid areas, it didn't work in the lush green irrigated areas. So the research scientists came up with a design that worked well in all areas of Afghanistan.
Be great if you could do New Zealand Army as well include the Aussies.
Top video, clearly shows that despite what people say about it not blending well with green it does and does it well!
Looks a lot like the AT-Tiger Stripe by Crye. I'm assuming one inspired the other. BTW, love your videos, easily the most comprehensive I know of on the subject of camo. I was really surprised to see how well the desert camos work in browner woodland areas. Oh yeah and I too am a big fan of my Tru-Spec tigers. They are a bit different than the ones you showcased in your videos, almost a blend of the Proppers and the John Wayne's, also somewhere between the sparse and the silvers. Keep 'em coming, great job.
+WhoWouldWantThisName Thanks brother, the All-Terrain Tiger stripe is actually made by Tiger Stripe products though (not Crye). tigerstripeproducts.com/products/all-terrain-tiger/
I do like the pattern though, I have two videos on it (one in the spring/summer and one in the fall/winter).
Cool video thanks for sharing
All the best Pete
peter morrison thanks
Nice job. Effective pattern.
These are normally quite difficult, but I spotted this one every time.
i actually instantly spotted you on the first shot and on a couple other shots I saw you pretty quickly. Impressive camo anyway but is a little too light when you are in shadow/darker veg
The main issue is the lack of contrast to break up the blockiness of the silhouette.
How about testing MTP in fall/winter time?
Love these videos. Nice work.
Appreciate it.
John Rodriguez: " It sure as Hell must be nice to be a Retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant ( E-7) , running around and about the woods of North Texas, testing one set of Cammies or another". Brent0331: " It sure as Hell is, Marine. Semper Fi, 😈🐕".
Have you done a video on the smock? I was issued an M65 field jacket and gortex jackets which both are great in different ways. The SAS smock the commonwealth-ers use seems to bridge the gap pretty well. I picked mine up in Dallas and it appears to be genuine, non-Chicom made kit.
I think I'm wearing the smock your referring to in this video, I got mine very cheap from Majorsurplus.com a while back. Great piece of gear.
are there plans (or have there already been any produced) for a more subdued version of this? there were several where it blended perfectly. with two instances where it wasn't quite as seamless. feeling like just a shade darker would be the answer. this was a great vid, thanks!
Just wash in tea!
It’s pretty good, the only real complaint I have is that depending on the environment, if it gets wet it looks a bit too dark.
Good video only criticism is the webbing and face cam stuck out like a sore thumb the MTP is much better than the old DPM.
all i want to say- thank you. also you now have a new sub because of this vid
Thanks brother, welcome aboard.
Cool video Brent, spotted you a few times, your head and shoulders tends to lighten up to much in bright light, but it is still a good pattern. Makes a change from the old DPM. Cheers.....atb.
Thanks for watching brother.
I was amazed how well MTP did better than Multicam I think. I also prefer the UK uniforms as they have a lightweight version for hot climes and the pockets and design are better than the US designs.
I love these videos! Keep em going :)
PhuckMyLife Thanks.
I'd like this pattern but colored like OCP. I don't know if it would be as versatile but in this environment, it would work very well IMO. Also, it wonder why they changed the pattern to be like a hybrid of DPM and multicam. VS using the sharper DPM pattern which I feel is more disruptive. I have a MTP combat shirt but, need to pick up some DPM also.
You must have some sort of lend lease deal with Sportsmans guide lol. I'm going to finally get around to posting a video this weekend.
Lol, I actually picked up these utilities from MajorSurplus.com. The next video I post will be Belgian Jigsaw, those came from the Guide though. :)
***** BELGIAN JIGSAW! lol, only thing that blends you in with is the circus,lol jks.
In Afghanistan, the cleaners would wash your clothes, pretty much boiling them... You would finish your tour and the mtp was very very faded, looked cool tho
Amazing. Thank you for sharing
Jose Thanks for watching.
Good video thanks for making it.
22lrrp Thanks
Awesome Videos . Thank you for your Service. Hooaah
Jon Waldridge Thanks
very good but, I think CADPAT or M84 camo would do better on the grounds included in your video. MTP would do better in most of the UK, such as most of the English nature grounds.
Pretty good, as it isn't insanely dark, but I'd say that the colors could be slightly more saturated.
I prefer this pattern over standard MultiCam because of the DPM derived brushstrokes.
Hey Brother
Just found your page. Love your work. Any chance if you haven't already tested the Australian Auscam. Old and or new variant DCPU DPDU or the new AMCU.
Regards
so when I was camping in the woods once I had my sleeping bag in a waterproof cover with MTP pattern. one morning during take-down I lost it and panicked. I then tripped on it. It was right in front of me and I couldn't see it.
To me that camouflage smacks of jack of all trades, master of none. Looks pretty good for arid environments and semi-arid, but not so great for woods.
Thats the point. Its origins lie in the Afghanistan experience where troops were in an arid desert-like environment at one point in a patrol and with yards could find themselves in crops or the heavily vegetated 'Green Zone'. What was great in one environment stood out massively a few minutes later when the troops moved on. The idea is that MTP should be 'good enough' in a wide range of environments - at no point should you 'stick out like a sore thumb'.
A lot of work went into its selection, colour calibrated data was gathered from a variety of environments, including Afghanistan, on the backgrounds the pattern would have to work against. A variety of patterns were then subjected to comparative tests in these environments, or simulations of them. The final 'shortlist' was then subjected to user acceptability testing - what did the troops themselves think of it. The pattern is basically multicam with modifications to make it more palatable to troops who had been used to DPM, make it look 'British' (again a troop preference thing) and to ensure that the rights to the pattern resided with the UK government, who wanted to control 'knockoffs' and, at the very least, if items were produced for the civilian market, receive a cut of the profits.
So, 'Jack of all trades, failure at none' is a better description.
Could see you every time. I think MTP works well in the environment it was designed for, Iraq and Afghanistan. But in the woodland it is too bright. DPM worked better. Good video nevertheless!
TE&LS V-BLOG Thanks
It was designed for MULTI TERRAIN you doughnut!
The MTP camouflage design was intended to perform consistently across a wide range of environments encountered, particularly for operations that the military had been deployed during 2009. British Troops in Afghanistan operate in a mixed landscape, including desert, woodland, mountains and urban.
Following an Urgent Operational Requirement for a camouflage uniform for the Afghan theatre of operations. Crye's Multicam pattern was determined to be the best performing, across the widest range of environments and combined with the existing British DPM pattern. The MTP pattern itself was not trialled against other patterns and its adoption was based solely on its similarity to the original Crye Multicam pattern. MTP works best across a WIDE range of environments Woodland DPM does work better in woodland than MTP.
Sorry but Crye was not adopted. It was tested against other patterns including MTP, I have seen the presentation and the detection times, which was given by the Trials and Development Unit via the Project Team (or vice versa) to Army HQ and Defence Equipment and Support.
Now shoot it again in three months and in three months and in . . . . Thanks for posting.
You should test them at night with IR if you can't be seen at night with Infrared devices then you have a good camouflage.
It's most effective. For one its not too dark like most others.
looks like NZ defense force will be changing from their MCU pattern to NZMTP some time this year. The MCU was only out for a couple of years had to many complaints apparently.I recon it is a smart decision. By the way Brent what size is the smock you are wearing compared to your height and chest size cheers mate.
Have you tried the UBAS (under body armour shirt)?
That sweat wicking material is better then most found on the market today, and the latest generation even have camouflage printed in the sweat wicking "shirt" portion, which most UBAS shirt out on the market don't - A big advantage as it allows you to wear it without armour, or not stick out like a sore thumb when you wear a chest rig.
Tremulousnut I've seen them I just haven't tried them out yet.
Try to get the newer stuff, the one with the camo printing on the sweat wicking "shirt" portion. The new UBACS even have a protective lining on the collar to reduce injuries from fragmentation.
Cheers. I was reluctant to get this camouflage as I do alot of wildlife watching on Salisbury Plain and don't want to look like a Walter. However, thanks to you and other on RUclips I brought one as the camouflage is brilliant for the Somerset Levels and the Forest of Dean. Just have a question about the cut of the jacket. Has this been copied by other militaries? I "hunt with a camera" I love the way that I can keep photography kit, 2 x 300ml Lifeventure mug/flasks in it (any idiot can be uncomfortable!), snacks and an Israeli dressing. I also love the hand warmer pockets. I pair mine up with my Alpkit thermal jacket in cold weather. Costs about 30 quid, if faded I rinse it in olive green dye then reproof in Nikwax and lets me get close to my photography targets.
I love MTP, multicam is great but its a bit too “bright” for my liking. Plus having used MTP through 4 years of service, i may be bias haha
That's pretty stinkin effective, I would say. At a distance and static, it's really hard to pick out your outline. I wonder how German (and Swedish) flecktarn pattern performs?
Too light in the autumn winter months...it’s then I change to dpm in uk.
The foliage i see you because you shine out
Hey Brent love your videos man! I've been subscribed for a while, I was just wondering if you have heard of a pattern called "Greenzone"? It's by pencott, just wondering if you have thought about testing/acquiring it, I would love to see you test that in the heavy vegetated environment
One thing I have to give the MTP about is the price. Waaaay cheaper than Multicam most of the time.
Looks like great kit. I really like the look/idea of an SAS style smock in lieu of a normal blouse but I'm worried about overheating. What's the max temp you feel like you can get away with it on?
Kirk Blackson Its thick, but not too think. If your familiar with the old M65 field Jacket its compatible to that but not as heavy or thick as M65. I would say once you start getting above 70 degrees you're asking for trouble.
The PCS cut has zips in the armpit just for that reason
Kirk Blackson, smocks are worn in more European climates. In hotter weather you'll just wear a combat shirt or UBACS.
MTP blew Multicam out of the water, I'm impressed the Brits got it right.
While the MoD definitely did procurement right, credit could be given to Crye for the pattern, the MoD went to them directly and made a deal to design a Multicam based pattern while using shapes from DPM to give it that British look.
I think it definitely helped with adoption of the troops that it not only worked so well, but had a British feel to it as well.
+Harry Akira Eaton yep they where considering using Multicam but British troops didn't want to look the same a US troops
#2 had me, i pegged ya facing opposite direction, torso was same just had the legs swapped
Same.
Nice
HeyBrent, another great video. I saw this stuff a couple of years ago when I visited the UK, I thought it looked pretty good then, and after your vid I'm sure it's good. As a side note, what do you ust to camo your rifles? Crylon, Duracoat? Something else? Just curious.
Just Crylon brother, nothing special.
Great video, but this pattern is more for either low to the ground or in tall grass or tall vegetation, but not all that effective compared to other patterns you have tested.