I bought a D7 and found that it wouldn't clean in certain places even though it was a tight fit, it should have gone down the gap. Picked up an S5 and it was slightly wider than the Neato but man was I impressed when it went down the gap on first try. I think the Roborock is a bit more brave in trying to go into narrower gaps. Plus I was very disappointed with the Neato app.. The fact you can see where the Roborock has been with its path makes it an absolute clear winner. D7 was great, but S50 is amazing.
I don't recommend Neato at all. All sorts of issues. Including mine I have 4 references of breakdown of Neato robots and all disastrous outcomes for each owners including myself. It breaks easy and stops functioning with new range of robots. Older ones were fine but looks like in order to save money they started going after cheap designs and cheap parts, because failures are quite consistent with newer models. I don't recommend Neato Vacuum Robots anymore. And like many mentioned over internet, their service is useless at best.
I have a Xiaomi Mi V1, which is basically the earlier model of the Roborock, and it knocks the spots off my daughter's Neato. And it was half the price.
I owned both simultanously and returned D7. Price or mopping wasn't a factor. D7 kept mashing obstacles more and harder, losing location on map and moving/pushing charging station off its place. It also reverses in some corners so that it climbs wall 10cm height and marks white painting of wall with its body color. On careful navigation setting it left basicly under all chairs and dinning table uncleaned. I do not have pets or kids and we don't wear shoes inside. Single floor having 56m2 area counted by robots. S5 dust bin gets full in week and half of daily cleanings. D7 does better single pass deep cleaning in open area. It also keeps noticeably more (or annoying) noise than S5. S5 cleans edges and corners better when there is no tiny strips at room edges, but high skirtings. D7 handles (30 - 100 cm) long hairs better without tangles. S5 rolls rugs much less. S5 did single pass clean in my room/furniture layout faster, but there wasn't meaningful difference.
My Neato does the reverse onto stuff too, which has caused damge to some of our furniture. Because of that im going to try the roborock. I believe the round shape will help it navigate better.
Cannesahs, can you tell me which one has better/smarter "navigation"? My house is totally hard floor (this is the good thing) but a little bit crowded/overfurnitured (this is the bad thing). Which one of these can navigate and avoid obstacles better? Thanks in advance.
After lengthy consideration and multiple RUclips reviews, I'm ready for the Roborock! PS.: Your videos are THE best. Gives me a lot of confidence in my purchase.
Thank you for your thorough research. Price and connectivity were my main reasons for choosing the Roborock. I had the Neato D7 initially, but it would intermittently operate due to connectivity. I would love to view a comparative review of robotic lawnmowers, Thank You, again
I had round shape robot with brush but i just returned them back cuz they ruined my kashmir carpet. Now i look for D shape robot without brush. Can u tell me if your D7 still have not betray you? 😂
If you don't need mopping, you can buy 3 Mi robots 1 for a price of one D7. You will be able not only to use them on 3 different floors but also do it at the same time! They will also have bigger bin size in total.
I have the S5 and it's been great. I'm not too fussed on bin size given that even 1 cup can last a few days before requiring cleaning. And the filters are super easy to clean. But I thought it necessary to point something out that I noticed. The Neato on low power is 17cfm at 120 minutes runtime whilst the S5 is 17cfm at 110 minutes runtime. This to me kind of suggests that perhaps the Neato is slightly more efficient? With that being said. My entire house can be vacuumed by the S5 with over 50% battery remaining. In fact I've set it to do 2x (vacuums entire house twice in a single run) without having to recharge. So as you stated in the video, runtime isn't really important with these two devices.
I have the s50 and for the money (compared to the D7) it crushes it in every aspect. S50 is a life changing purchase as it saves me hours every week which has given me valuable time back. You really cannot put a value on that.
Hello Mathew, If I understood well that some vacuum robots have some issues with the black carpet, does that problem also goes with the black tiles with the Roborock S5? I have in my apartment black dark tiles, please advise and many thanks in advance for the reply!
@@imgh3380 I unfortunately don't have the dark tiles or dark carpet in my place so cannot confirm. However if there is an issue apparently covering cliff sensors with foil then tape works, then just setup exclusion zones if you actually have drops or stairs in your place 👍
I bought the Roborock S50 and have honestly been astounded by it, it is super effective and really makes a difference when it comes to keeping things clean. It's navigation system is truly amazing and I love how I can set barriers and block off entire sections with the app. The only issue I had with it recently was from my own stupidity. When I go out I often lock my door from the outside and then hide the keys inside the door using the cat flap. Not thinking I did this one Saturday night only to come home and find my keys were missing. The Roborock came on for a scheduled clean and swept my keys into another room. It was infuriating at the time and cost me a fortune to get a lock smith out, but it's definitely a funny first world problem story to tell friends and colleagues :-P
Maybe the robot saved you from thiefs. Many know that home owners hide their keys using the pets doors :P . Worst hiding place ever (after under flower pots and door rug )
Because of your videos I went out a bought a neato D5 from Best buy. They are on sale for $299 from $600 so it's a steal!! It's awesome and so smart we have 4 Samsung r7040's and they do not even compare to the neato. So before the Best Buy deal ends go and pick one up you won't regret it!!
Great review again. I have the roborock downstairs and the Xiaomi mi vacuum upstairs (which adds up to the price of just 1 Neato) so I don't need it to remember a floor nor do I have to move it😊. Also for me, I empty the bins every weekend and they are half full so basically it can run two weeks without me doing anything. Both great robots which do a better job then the much more expensive iroomba !
The Neato is significantly more expensive and has known reliability issues while its performance is no better than that of the S5. I really cannot see how it can be hailed as the winner.
I've had a Neato D85 and have had quite a few reliability issues with it. After yet another error that my research tells me needs a replacement part, I bit the bullet and ordered a Roborock today. Looking forward to a good clean without a random error.
@@jeremytibballs6972 Amen to that man. I had the Neato XV-21 before and then the D85. The D85 constantly alerted me that the dustbin was loose. I was taping down the sensor, putting rubberbands around the dustbin, and more. It finally became unusable. It was outside of warranty. A friend of mine had a different model Neato with the same problems and stopped using it. Got the Roborock S5 and holy cow, no problems what so ever. I've been using it for almost a year and my apartment is immaculate, and it rarely fails to get back to the base (only when it gets pinned under the coffee table).
I ended up choosing the Roborock S51. I was wanting a mop robot so it was the best choice for me. It would be wonderful if they added another floor plan though. That is one thing that is really lacking.
I think that it is important to note two other items with these vacuums. 1. Neato will invalidate your warranty if you buy the vacuum from a third party. On Amazon, you will need to make sure that the seller is Neato Robotics to keep that warranty intact. As a result of their minimum price policy, and warranty restriction you will rarely see any different price, though a savvy shopper may find applicable % off coupons via big box retailers. 2. The best prices on the Roborock S50 are going to be found when ordering it from China (ebay, aliexpress, banggood, etc.) but warranty will be non-existent at that point. But I assume if you order through these Amazon links you are supporting this channel, which is good too.
On number one my understanding is that this is not true, in fact they told me they would honor a warranty even if it was purchased from EBAY as long as you can prove that the listing was new, sealed in box. I do support sites like Gearbest that sell from China, and yeah its cheaper, but the shipping can take several weeks, I guess it depends on which is valued more but you are totally correct.
@@arevee9429 It is universal voltage. But make sure robot has software bit set to your region or you might be unable to use app with it. (You can still make it to work, but requires way above normal computer skills).
I have the Neato D3, it does really well on my hardwood floors, area rugs and tile. It was getting to where it was banging into objects, but then I realized that that was my fault for not cleaning the sensors and body of the unit. Once I cleaned it, the D3 stopped ramming into stuff. I noticed today that there was a software upgrade that was available. I let the upgrade run and reconnected the unit to my tablet, did a test run and WOW what a difference. The D3 actually mapped the floor plan of the room and ran an effective back and forth pattern of the room before moving onto the next room. I was considering upgrading to another robot but after the software upgrade, I see no reason to replace the D3.
We just got the roborock s5 few days ago for 400€ (Finland). Very happy with the purchase, seems like a lot of value for the money. Neato d7 current price here is 629€. Personally i really like the mopping feature and we don't have use for multiple floor plan eather.
Picked up a D7 from best buy last Friday.. They price matched Amazon who had it for $699. Absolutely love it! Only going to get better with firmware upgrades.
I don't believe CFM measurement could be used to measure power of the vacuum. Since D7 nozzle opening in larger than S5's there is chance D7 creates less suction than S5. You shouldn't be using CFM's to measure suction. CFM would not change if you make nozzle of vacuum smaller or larger, but static pressure would change and that is what creates suction.
Suggestion place 6-8 chairs and a table. Pour rice or similar under the table and chairs. Do that for s5 and Neato. The S5 will crush it. A single room is not a sufficient test I think.
I run a Neto D5 in a 3000 sq ft church auditorium with around 40 pews 6 legs per pew. It does an awesome job. Although the pew legs are spaced just right so the Neto can fit but get stuck if it hits at the wrong angle. Before no-go lines it would get stuck about every 5th week or a little less than once a month. After getting no go lines set up it ran flawless until the last update which just causes it to fail to run randomly. Guess I should contact Neto. But if I hit run again it usually works.
@@zippodk I think the round shape would make it easier for the bot to navigate. However after watching how well the neato raps around every leg. I doubt the s50 would clean as well considering the brushroll is in the center and would never get near the edges. Not to mention the 12" Vs 6" cleaning path. It takes the neato 4 hrs to clean a 3000 sq foot auditorium. It runs 2.75 to 3 hrs on a single charge so battery life is great.
@@rmkscrambler Side brush of the s50 comes under the legs as it is much larger than neatos that is why it is going to do a better job. Neato seams almost clumsy compared. Anyway I am certain it is a better machine as I have lived with both. Also S50 is better build as neatos have are lacking in quality control my died 2 times and another VR200 dies 2 times in one year. No way a D7 runs 3 hours on one charge the S50 is the king here and has the largest battery. Try it you can return it via Amazon but I think you will keep it.
I have owned my D7 for over a year with a total of 6 rma return due to lack of consistant function in the device. The software is spotty as the D7 will randomly decide to not vaccum and claim it cant find the map. Im now working on another RMA as of 4/17/2019. The plus side when it does work it conditions carpets really well and pickup is stron. The Con reliability as the bot and the app tends to flake out. Also setup time creating new map. As i have had my replace numerous times it would be great to be able to transfer the map instead of having to creat a nrw one everytime.
i know Im asking randomly but does someone know a method to log back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid forgot my password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
@Merrick Yusuf thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and im trying it out atm. Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Great series and comparisons. Roborock S5 Max just came out. It can save up to 3 floor plans and looks to be the same basic features as the Roborock S5 with mopping but much smarter. Are you going to do a review and comparison between the Roborock S5 Max and the Neato D7 or the Roborock S6. I'm on the fence about the mopping feature since you're not supposed to use cleaning liquid but for the option and price if the S5 Max has the same performance as the S5 it might be a better buy against the D7. Can you do an S5 Max review soon?
I have a German shepherd, a lab, and two parrots, plus two kids. We went through two Neato D5s in one year. Neither one lasted longer than 6 months, running once per day. No one ever talks about longevity and reliability. Is the Roborock reliable? Roomba seems reliable but they are obnoxiously loud and don’t seem to navigate all that well.
Considering the price and the better app the S5 wins it for me. Wish it had a bigger bin and brush but the mopping feature sort of makes up for it (for me). What a great comparison though! Thanks for another great video!
How you can recommend Neato D7 over the Roborock is for me a big questionmark. With all the negative user reviews out there. The Roborock S5 is so much better. Payed by Neato?
The Roborock is absolutely fabulous. I shouldn’t be saying this as I also hope for the price to lower a bit so I can get one for upstairs as well;) Love the trail it leaves in the app and the way it fights its way over obstacles. Great Chinese quality.
I wish we could magically do a long term reliability test to see which has better quality. If I am going to spend that much I would like to know that it is going to last. I have been reading some of the Neato reviews and they have me a little spooked right now.
My current Neato has needed three repairs in the five years I've owned it. Are there better made brands? What are your thoughts on longevity? Thanks for all the entertaining info.
So nice to walk barefoot without getting debris on foot🌼 I have 2 dogs, this robot keeps my home tidy. Mop feature isn't terrific but vacuum is wonderful. It doesn't get lost, battery lasts over 90 minutes (my house is done in that time). Best "gadget" purchase I ever made! Love this machine.
They just need to make the software work better with multi-level floors. If you could buy a charging dock for each level of your home and then manually move the vacuum between levels without it loosing its map that would be a game changer.
Question: Does the larger brush on the D7 clean rooms faster? You would think that a few extra inches on the brush would mean less passes across the floor. How long did each vacuum take to complete their tests?
Wow your lucky, 😲 I have the shark r87 but I love the sharks 20cfm airflow and very very quiet cleaning. It also has the built in handheld vac on the charging dock, which I find very convenient. Although, the main reason I got the shark I s because of how cheap I got it at bed bath and beyond with the 20% off coupon. It was only $375. But the normal price on the shark is $500
Had the roborock st for about a month now, I serisouly don't have a single bad thing to say about it. It gets everything every time and has never gotten stuck it's the no brain pick for me at least.
Neato D5 onwards models have belt driven side brushes but I’m constantly changing the belts as they wear quickly. Don’t wanna have to mod to gear wheels
Wow, tough call. And you called out the two items I thought were important - bin size and price. On battery life, I wonder if Neato's wide brush allows it to clean a larger surface area on a charge than Roborock with it's narrow brush and longer run time. And for the irrational, there is something about the shape of Neato that appeals. Maybe because it seems like it would get into corners better than a round bot. The round shape, like random ping ponging of cheaper vacs, just seems wrong.
Hi there Are Vee! Yeah the larger brush does mean fewer passes, and the D shape is good for corners and edges, but really its not that much better at corners than a round bot.
I bought the Neato D3 Pro for me and the Deebot 901 for my Mom. I cannot tell you how much regret I have with the Neato. This empty my bin error cannot be overcome. Neato support is asking me to send it back as an RMA but is not sending me a replacement in the meantime. The specs looks good on the Neato but nothing after that. Meanwhile, the Deebot's is great. Even the mapping is better. So I advise the audience: take the Roborock. Even my dumb Roomba that I just gave away did its job well for over 4 years without a hitch.
The new zone features of the D7 have broken the auto room detection for no go lines. Can you go into this further as Neato really need to fix this, it has become a massive frustration for many that if the auto detection fails you can’t manually override it.
Great video but if Neato gets 120min producing 17cfm suction and Roborock only gets 110mins producing the same 17cfm doesn't that mean neato has better battery life? The only roborock benefit here is that it offers lower power options for longer run times.
First of all. Thank you for thorough compassion between the two though I will go for xiaomi s5. This preference was derived from your good comparison in this video. Job well done. 🤗
I compared these two robots along with 360 S6 Robot Vacuum as it’s more value for money & has all features of D7 & S50 have . Pls do a comparison with 360 S6 Robot Vacuum .
I have found that published dust bin numbers have virtually nothing to do with real world tests. Those numbers are what I personally tested, and compared to others with the same test.
@@VacuumWars I think you should let robot suck dust until it cannot suck anymore, then measure the volume or weight of dust. That is real usable dust bin size.
I dont know how it is in US but i Europe is Roborock available under 400$ almost all time and with 3 year warranty. You can get this on aliexpress (roborock will be expedited from EU stock) or on gearbest where are similar options (i got one from gearbest for 360$ before xmas from China but "EU priority line" so you have no worries with taxes). So in this point of view is roborock winner for me.
Great vid. Wonder if there is any information about the filtration performance of these vacuums? I have read that the roborock does not have a HEPA filter but a worse EPA 11 (E11) filter. But I have not been able to find any official information about this. If it is correct that it has a EPA 11 filter then it filtrates a minimum of 95% of particles with the size of 0.3 micrometer. The Neato I find no information about the filter performance. I read in a review that it filter particles down to 0.3 micrometer. But I find no information about the actual performance to filter these particles. Does it filter 1% of them or 99%? Would be great if this information could be revealed.
@@KypHeM may I ask where you got this information? I even asked the official Neato reseller in my country and they could not provide any information about the filter performance.
Good evening, I had a Samsung 7070 and it really had problems in the night - Looking at getting the S50 and was wondering if night cleaning is a problem with this vacuum? Cheers and thanks in advance.
I've read alot of complaints regarding the Neato vacs having issues with connectivity. Do you have any info regarding this? It seems to be a big issue. I like that the neato has a square shape which can help it clean corners, but I may forfeit that and go for the roborock s5 since I don't want to deal with a vacuum not staying connected.
With a tie like this, get the one that looks cooler. So I got the roborock. Also, xiaomi is a larger more reputable brand, so I stuck with that. Also, does the neato really have better suction if the area of it's opening is larger? Does your test account for that?
I have both robots for a couple months, they basically seem like the same robot other than Neato seems to deep clean more better while the roborocks battery is better. Overall I prefer the Neato d7
How do you feel about the roller noise on the Neato while on bare floors? I just got a D5 and the plastic guide wheels are awfully "scratchy" on our bare floors, especially compared to our old Miele Scout. Have you experienced this?
1. Since 2*roborock is the same price as 1*Neato+1*extra dock = multiple floor plan solution goes to roborock since you can have one on each floor at the same price as manually moving the neato every day you want to clean. Less fuzz and two vacuums/docks must be the better choice. Agree? ;-) 2. You miss one important feature, google assistant integration. As of now both the old and new xiaomi can be started stopped and docked with google assistant and its super easy to setup. Can neato do that?
i thinking of getting the Roborock S50 but i hate the bin size 1 cup is to small and the size of the roller brash is small too but in saying that i just simply can't afford the other vacuum Neato Botvac D7 $$$$ and they don't sell it in Australia...
Housewife!!! The bin size isn’t a huge deal in my opinion. I have the S50 and the first day or so it was getting super full. But I use it everyday now and it doesn’t even get half full on one pass it takes nearly 3 or 4 full cleans in turbo to fill the dust bin it’s a great vacuum
Dear all, If I understood well that some vacuum robots have some issues with the black carpet, does that problem also goes with the black tiles? I have in my apartment black dark tiles, please advise and many thanks in advance for the reply!
Based on Amazon reviews, it looks like the Roborock is the better bet. There are a slew of complaints regarding Neato Robotic's customer service, in the case that one of their units breaks down. Roborock wins the Amazon review war by far.
Ordered the Neato D7, next up is finding out how much better this robot vacuum game gets after having a Deebot N79S for 2 years. Oh my Australian Cattle dog is going love this, not. LOL
I got a neato D7 last month. Pretty pleased with some things.. Others not so much. Making a floor plan at my house a little difficult but finally managed to get it. The D7 will error out if the base surrounding area has changed at all (clothes piled up, cloths bin moved closer to base, dog bed moved etc) took a sec to realize the issue was but not a problem anymore. Cleans very well! But sometimes it would get lost and stuck behind a recliner that even had no go lines there and it went there anyway trying to "return to base" overall it cleans the pet hair and dirt very well!
@@alyssa5848 Thanks! I was able to snag a D5 a month ago for less than $350 and it works like magic. Bought my parents D4 for $250 from a mom and pop vacuum store and don't notice a difference in quality of a job it does
Your statement that the Roborock has better battery life is incorrect. The comparison is only fair when you match the airflow. Since you get 120 minutes at 17 CFM on the NEATO D7 you would then compare that to the 110 minutes from the Robo also at 17 CFM. In other words the low power setting of the NEATO is equivalent to the high power setting of the Roborock (in terms of CFM) and therefore that is where the comparison lies. The real question is... is there a value in running your vacuum at a suction Under 17 CFM?
My D7 runs at 17 CFM and does a tremendous job picking up. The D7 runs quieter at 17 and that is what we run it at when we are home. I think I paid about $600 this past Christmas at Bed Bath on sale and 20% off.
Same brother just got mine for $299 from Best buy also. I bought many Samsung robots and they were better then irobot so I kept them. Thank God I did because if I didn't I would have bought this one for $600 everything in the end worked out. But now I have to figure out what to do with 5 robots
Calling the Neato app is harder to use is a understatement. I bought the d5 and first issues were with the stupid app. Machine is amazing, the app is pure garbage especially with the new firmware update that broke the server connection. Turns out the blasted server won’t connect unless I connect it through the 2.4ghz network instead of my usual 5ghz one
@@danedwards_ee Ya, if i wasn't so fluent with tech stuff then I would've called it broken and returned it. Neato has a very nice machine but their software department should just be replaced entirely. I actually had trouble finding the 'Delete' button at one point because of how unintuitive it was.
I wanted to get rid of the last two video with the old studio and equipment. From here on out all the videos will be (what I hope) will be much higher quality.
Neato D7 on Amazon: geni.us/RUigP
Roborock S8 (Newer Version) on Amazon: geni.us/uMBbEMk
I bought a D7 and found that it wouldn't clean in certain places even though it was a tight fit, it should have gone down the gap. Picked up an S5 and it was slightly wider than the Neato but man was I impressed when it went down the gap on first try. I think the Roborock is a bit more brave in trying to go into narrower gaps. Plus I was very disappointed with the Neato app.. The fact you can see where the Roborock has been with its path makes it an absolute clear winner. D7 was great, but S50 is amazing.
I don't recommend Neato at all. All sorts of issues. Including mine I have 4 references of breakdown of Neato robots and all disastrous outcomes for each owners including myself. It breaks easy and stops functioning with new range of robots. Older ones were fine but looks like in order to save money they started going after cheap designs and cheap parts, because failures are quite consistent with newer models. I don't recommend Neato Vacuum Robots anymore. And like many mentioned over internet, their service is useless at best.
I have a Xiaomi Mi V1, which is basically the earlier model of the Roborock, and it knocks the spots off my daughter's Neato. And it was half the price.
I owned both simultanously and returned D7. Price or mopping wasn't a factor.
D7 kept mashing obstacles more and harder, losing location on map and moving/pushing charging station off its place. It also reverses in some corners so that it climbs wall 10cm height and marks white painting of wall with its body color. On careful navigation setting it left basicly under all chairs and dinning table uncleaned.
I do not have pets or kids and we don't wear shoes inside. Single floor having 56m2 area counted by robots. S5 dust bin gets full in week and half of daily cleanings.
D7 does better single pass deep cleaning in open area. It also keeps noticeably more (or annoying) noise than S5. S5 cleans edges and corners better when there is no tiny strips at room edges, but high skirtings.
D7 handles (30 - 100 cm) long hairs better without tangles. S5 rolls rugs much less. S5 did single pass clean in my room/furniture layout faster, but there wasn't meaningful difference.
My Neato does the reverse onto stuff too, which has caused damge to some of our furniture. Because of that im going to try the roborock. I believe the round shape will help it navigate better.
Cannesahs, can you tell me which one has better/smarter "navigation"? My house is totally hard floor (this is the good thing) but a little bit crowded/overfurnitured (this is the bad thing). Which one of these can navigate and avoid obstacles better? Thanks in advance.
Same! My Neato scratch some furniture! What a crazy robot!
I just finished cleaning my room with Roborock s5. Love it.
Awesome glad to hear you like it!
After lengthy consideration and multiple RUclips reviews, I'm ready for the Roborock! PS.: Your videos are THE best. Gives me a lot of confidence in my purchase.
Thank you for your thorough research. Price and connectivity were my main reasons for choosing the Roborock. I had the Neato D7 initially, but it would intermittently operate due to connectivity. I would love to view a comparative review of robotic lawnmowers, Thank You, again
Yeah lawnmowers would be great.
I have tried almost all of them.
GO for Husqvarna 310+ as 1. choise
Or Gardena if U think they are too expensive.
Jesper Eybye thank you
I have the d7 and I'm very pleased with it. The extra suction is huge for me so is the bigger bin.
And i say the same with my D5! - absolutely fantastic machines!, Levi
I had round shape robot with brush but i just returned them back cuz they ruined my kashmir carpet. Now i look for D shape robot without brush. Can u tell me if your D7 still have not betray you? 😂
If you don't need mopping, you can buy 3 Mi robots 1 for a price of one D7. You will be able not only to use them on 3 different floors but also do it at the same time! They will also have bigger bin size in total.
Awesome idea, Always wanted an army of helper droids doing my bidding = )
The best test's of vacuum Robots! Thank you. Roborock for me - moping and big batery
Good points!
Haven’t watched the whole video but I think I already know which one you chose.
I have the S5 and it's been great. I'm not too fussed on bin size given that even 1 cup can last a few days before requiring cleaning. And the filters are super easy to clean.
But I thought it necessary to point something out that I noticed. The Neato on low power is 17cfm at 120 minutes runtime whilst the S5 is 17cfm at 110 minutes runtime. This to me kind of suggests that perhaps the Neato is slightly more efficient?
With that being said. My entire house can be vacuumed by the S5 with over 50% battery remaining. In fact I've set it to do 2x (vacuums entire house twice in a single run) without having to recharge. So as you stated in the video, runtime isn't really important with these two devices.
Mat O I had mine run today 3x for 160 minutes no stops with charge to spare
I have the s50 and for the money (compared to the D7) it crushes it in every aspect. S50 is a life changing purchase as it saves me hours every week which has given me valuable time back. You really cannot put a value on that.
Hello Mathew, If I understood well that some vacuum robots have some issues with the black carpet, does that problem also goes with the black tiles with the Roborock S5? I have in my apartment black dark tiles, please advise and many thanks in advance for the reply!
@@imgh3380 I unfortunately don't have the dark tiles or dark carpet in my place so cannot confirm. However if there is an issue apparently covering cliff sensors with foil then tape works, then just setup exclusion zones if you actually have drops or stairs in your place 👍
Mathew Beattie , thank you very much for the prompt reply. Have a good day or a good evening.
The value = you hourly salary when working over time * hours saved ;-)
I bought the Roborock S50 and have honestly been astounded by it, it is super effective and really makes a difference when it comes to keeping things clean. It's navigation system is truly amazing and I love how I can set barriers and block off entire sections with the app. The only issue I had with it recently was from my own stupidity. When I go out I often lock my door from the outside and then hide the keys inside the door using the cat flap. Not thinking I did this one Saturday night only to come home and find my keys were missing. The Roborock came on for a scheduled clean and swept my keys into another room. It was infuriating at the time and cost me a fortune to get a lock smith out, but it's definitely a funny first world problem story to tell friends and colleagues :-P
Maybe the robot saved you from thiefs. Many know that home owners hide their keys using the pets doors :P . Worst hiding place ever (after under flower pots and door rug )
@@CountPorcula I stay in a security estate with guards and access control so that is not a concern for me :-)
@@KyleJHB then why do you need to lock the door ? :P
@@CountPorcula Because I have neighbours and it's just good practice from an insurance point of view.
Please consider adding the minimum space they can navigate. Can they get under the toe kick of my kitchen cabinets?
Because of your videos I went out a bought a neato D5 from Best buy. They are on sale for $299 from $600 so it's a steal!! It's awesome and so smart we have 4 Samsung r7040's and they do not even compare to the neato. So before the Best Buy deal ends go and pick one up you won't regret it!!
Awesome what a great price! and so much better than the R7040
Love my D5 too!!
Great review again. I have the roborock downstairs and the Xiaomi mi vacuum upstairs (which adds up to the price of just 1 Neato) so I don't need it to remember a floor nor do I have to move it😊.
Also for me, I empty the bins every weekend and they are half full so basically it can run two weeks without me doing anything.
Both great robots which do a better job then the much more expensive iroomba !
(did he just say 'iroomba'?)
The Neato is significantly more expensive and has known reliability issues while its performance is no better than that of the S5. I really cannot see how it can be hailed as the winner.
I've had a Neato D85 and have had quite a few reliability issues with it. After yet another error that my research tells me needs a replacement part, I bit the bullet and ordered a Roborock today. Looking forward to a good clean without a random error.
@@jeremytibballs6972 Amen to that man. I had the Neato XV-21 before and then the D85. The D85 constantly alerted me that the dustbin was loose. I was taping down the sensor, putting rubberbands around the dustbin, and more. It finally became unusable. It was outside of warranty. A friend of mine had a different model Neato with the same problems and stopped using it. Got the Roborock S5 and holy cow, no problems what so ever. I've been using it for almost a year and my apartment is immaculate, and it rarely fails to get back to the base (only when it gets pinned under the coffee table).
I just bought the S 50 and my 🏠 is a happy place once again.
The roborock was also on sale "Amazon deal of the day" for $409 this week. The Neato is around $800.
Yeah thats a massive difference.
It's at 320e now on some sites, crazy prices if you ask me.
I ordered the Roborock from Newegg for 390
J Craws I got my D7 on an Amazon deal of the day as well, for about $500. I was so stoked to see the price come down for a bit
I ended up choosing the Roborock S51. I was wanting a mop robot so it was the best choice for me. It would be wonderful if they added another floor plan though. That is one thing that is really lacking.
I think that it is important to note two other items with these vacuums.
1. Neato will invalidate your warranty if you buy the vacuum from a third party. On Amazon, you will need to make sure that the seller is Neato Robotics to keep that warranty intact. As a result of their minimum price policy, and warranty restriction you will rarely see any different price, though a savvy shopper may find applicable % off coupons via big box retailers.
2. The best prices on the Roborock S50 are going to be found when ordering it from China (ebay, aliexpress, banggood, etc.) but warranty will be non-existent at that point.
But I assume if you order through these Amazon links you are supporting this channel, which is good too.
On number one my understanding is that this is not true, in fact they told me they would honor a warranty even if it was purchased from EBAY as long as you can prove that the listing was new, sealed in box.
I do support sites like Gearbest that sell from China, and yeah its cheaper, but the shipping can take several weeks, I guess it depends on which is valued more but you are totally correct.
Good suggestion about buying from China, but make sure the charging station is 120 volt compatible.
@@arevee9429
It is universal voltage. But make sure robot has software bit set to your region or you might be unable to use app with it. (You can still make it to work, but requires way above normal computer skills).
I have the Neato D3, it does really well on my hardwood floors, area rugs and tile. It was getting to where it was banging into objects, but then I realized that that was my fault for not cleaning the sensors and body of the unit. Once I cleaned it, the D3 stopped ramming into stuff. I noticed today that there was a software upgrade that was available. I let the upgrade run and reconnected the unit to my tablet, did a test run and WOW what a difference. The D3 actually mapped the floor plan of the room and ran an effective back and forth pattern of the room before moving onto the next room. I was considering upgrading to another robot but after the software upgrade, I see no reason to replace the D3.
We just got the roborock s5 few days ago for 400€ (Finland). Very happy with the purchase, seems like a lot of value for the money. Neato d7 current price here is 629€. Personally i really like the mopping feature and we don't have use for multiple floor plan eather.
Great review, thank you! It was well thought out and the most helpful out the 4+ videos and web reviews I checked.
I am very glad to hear that!
Picked up a D7 from best buy last Friday.. They price matched Amazon who had it for $699. Absolutely love it! Only going to get better with firmware upgrades.
I paid $400 for my S5 via Amazon.... I wonder if you really think it was worth paying $300 more when for $100 more you could have two S5.
Software update! In one year Neato release 0 software update...
I don't believe CFM measurement could be used to measure power of the vacuum. Since D7 nozzle opening in larger than S5's there is chance D7 creates less suction than S5. You shouldn't be using CFM's to measure suction. CFM would not change if you make nozzle of vacuum smaller or larger, but static pressure would change and that is what creates suction.
Suggestion place 6-8 chairs and a table. Pour rice or similar under the table and chairs. Do that for s5 and Neato. The S5 will crush it. A single room is not a sufficient test I think.
Good idea, thanks!
I run a Neto D5 in a 3000 sq ft church auditorium with around 40 pews 6 legs per pew. It does an awesome job. Although the pew legs are spaced just right so the Neto can fit but get stuck if it hits at the wrong angle. Before no-go lines it would get stuck about every 5th week or a little less than once a month. After getting no go lines set up it ran flawless until the last update which just causes it to fail to run randomly. Guess I should contact Neto. But if I hit run again it usually works.
@@rmkscrambler The s50 will be faster and more thorough around legs. Also with the huge battery, it will be perfect match for the church.
@@zippodk I think the round shape would make it easier for the bot to navigate. However after watching how well the neato raps around every leg. I doubt the s50 would clean as well considering the brushroll is in the center and would never get near the edges. Not to mention the 12" Vs 6" cleaning path. It takes the neato 4 hrs to clean a 3000 sq foot auditorium. It runs 2.75 to 3 hrs on a single charge so battery life is great.
@@rmkscrambler Side brush of the s50 comes under the legs as it is much larger than neatos that is why it is going to do a better job. Neato seams almost clumsy compared. Anyway I am certain it is a better machine as I have lived with both. Also S50 is better build as neatos have are lacking in quality control my died 2 times and another VR200 dies 2 times in one year.
No way a D7 runs 3 hours on one charge the S50 is the king here and has the largest battery. Try it you can return it via Amazon but I think you will keep it.
I have owned my D7 for over a year with a total of 6 rma return due to lack of consistant function in the device. The software is spotty as the D7 will randomly decide to not vaccum and claim it cant find the map. Im now working on another RMA as of 4/17/2019. The plus side when it does work it conditions carpets really well and pickup is stron. The Con reliability as the bot and the app tends to flake out. Also setup time creating new map. As i have had my replace numerous times it would be great to be able to transfer the map instead of having to creat a nrw one everytime.
My Roborock S5 arrives tomorrow, I’ll keep you updated.
Hi are you happy with your buy ? Is it good vacuum specialy for carpet and corners?
Thanks for your amazing videos. I am looking forward iLife A4S, A6, A8 reviews!
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Great series and comparisons. Roborock S5 Max just came out. It can save up to 3 floor plans and looks to be the same basic features as the Roborock S5 with mopping but much smarter. Are you going to do a review and comparison between the Roborock S5 Max and the Neato D7 or the Roborock S6. I'm on the fence about the mopping feature since you're not supposed to use cleaning liquid but for the option and price if the S5 Max has the same performance as the S5 it might be a better buy against the D7. Can you do an S5 Max review soon?
I have a German shepherd, a lab, and two parrots, plus two kids. We went through two Neato D5s in one year. Neither one lasted longer than 6 months, running once per day. No one ever talks about longevity and reliability. Is the Roborock reliable? Roomba seems reliable but they are obnoxiously loud and don’t seem to navigate all that well.
Considering the price and the better app the S5 wins it for me. Wish it had a bigger bin and brush but the mopping feature sort of makes up for it (for me). What a great comparison though! Thanks for another great video!
Have the Neato and I love it. Works great.
How you can recommend Neato D7 over the Roborock is for me a big questionmark. With all the negative user reviews out there. The Roborock S5 is so much better. Payed by Neato?
The Roborock is absolutely fabulous. I shouldn’t be saying this as I also hope for the price to lower a bit so I can get one for upstairs as well;) Love the trail it leaves in the app and the way it fights its way over obstacles. Great Chinese quality.
I wish we could magically do a long term reliability test to see which has better quality. If I am going to spend that much I would like to know that it is going to last. I have been reading some of the Neato reviews and they have me a little spooked right now.
You rock man! Thank you for these great videos.
Thanks! You rock!
My Neato d3 can go through really thick rugs and pretty much anything. I'd be surprised if the roborock could perform as well
Bought the roborock s5 today. Cant wait until the battery is fully charged!
Which is the best robo vac AND mop at the moment please. Love your channel 😍
My current Neato has needed three repairs in the five years I've owned it. Are there better made brands? What are your thoughts on longevity? Thanks for all the entertaining info.
So nice to walk barefoot without getting debris on foot🌼 I have 2 dogs, this robot keeps my home tidy. Mop feature isn't terrific but vacuum is wonderful. It doesn't get lost, battery lasts over 90 minutes (my house is done in that time). Best "gadget" purchase I ever made! Love this machine.
For the price and design looking, Roborock S5 100% win !!!
I don’t agree. I read a lot of complaints about the Neato software and app messing up all the time. I got a s5 because of this issue.
They just need to make the software work better with multi-level floors. If you could buy a charging dock for each level of your home and then manually move the vacuum between levels without it loosing its map that would be a game changer.
Question: Does the larger brush on the D7 clean rooms faster? You would think that a few extra inches on the brush would mean less passes across the floor. How long did each vacuum take to complete their tests?
In my home S5 was slightly faster, but no meaningful difference
Its not a huge difference but yes the larger brush does mean fewer passes and less time.
Wow very Nice comparaison. I personnaly have roborock s5 so for me it the roborock.
Cool, I think the S5 is a wise purchase!
Wow your lucky, 😲 I have the shark r87 but I love the sharks 20cfm airflow and very very quiet cleaning. It also has the built in handheld vac on the charging dock, which I find very convenient. Although, the main reason I got the shark I s because of how cheap I got it at bed bath and beyond with the 20% off coupon. It was only $375. But the normal price on the shark is $500
Had the roborock st for about a month now, I serisouly don't have a single bad thing to say about it. It gets everything every time and has never gotten stuck it's the no brain pick for me at least.
Neato D5 onwards models have belt driven side brushes but I’m constantly changing the belts as they wear quickly. Don’t wanna have to mod to gear wheels
Wow, tough call. And you called out the two items I thought were important - bin size and price. On battery life, I wonder if Neato's wide brush allows it to clean a larger surface area on a charge than Roborock with it's narrow brush and longer run time.
And for the irrational, there is something about the shape of Neato that appeals. Maybe because it seems like it would get into corners better than a round bot. The round shape, like random ping ponging of cheaper vacs, just seems wrong.
Hi there Are Vee! Yeah the larger brush does mean fewer passes, and the D shape is good for corners and edges, but really its not that much better at corners than a round bot.
I bought the Neato D3 Pro for me and the Deebot 901 for my Mom. I cannot tell you how much regret I have with the Neato. This empty my bin error cannot be overcome. Neato support is asking me to send it back as an RMA but is not sending me a replacement in the meantime. The specs looks good on the Neato but nothing after that. Meanwhile, the Deebot's is great. Even the mapping is better. So I advise the audience: take the Roborock. Even my dumb Roomba that I just gave away did its job well for over 4 years without a hitch.
The new zone features of the D7 have broken the auto room detection for no go lines. Can you go into this further as Neato really need to fix this, it has become a massive frustration for many that if the auto detection fails you can’t manually override it.
Im not familiar with the problem, sounds like an issue for tech support or the forums.
Would you please test the D7 Vs the S6?
Great video but if Neato gets 120min producing 17cfm suction and
Roborock only gets 110mins producing the same 17cfm doesn't that mean neato has better battery life? The only roborock benefit here is that it offers lower power options for longer run times.
First of all. Thank you for thorough compassion between the two though I will go for xiaomi s5. This preference was derived from your good comparison in this video. Job well done. 🤗
Just bought the D5, its super!
Thank you for this video!!!
I compared these two robots along with 360 S6 Robot Vacuum as it’s more value for money & has all features of D7 & S50 have . Pls do a comparison with 360 S6 Robot Vacuum .
The roborock dust bin is 500 ml or 2.11 cups. I am not sure where you are getting that it only holds one cup.
Official spec for S5 is 480ml = 2.03 cups = 1.92 cups (metric) = 1.69 cups (UK)
I have found that published dust bin numbers have virtually nothing to do with real world tests. Those numbers are what I personally tested, and compared to others with the same test.
@@VacuumWars I think you should let robot suck dust until it cannot suck anymore, then measure the volume or weight of dust. That is real usable dust bin size.
@@VacuumWars Could you please elaborate on how you tested this?
... oh, and thanks for a great review - very helpful!
I dont know how it is in US but i Europe is Roborock available under 400$ almost all time and with 3 year warranty. You can get this on aliexpress (roborock will be expedited from EU stock) or on gearbest where are similar options (i got one from gearbest for 360$ before xmas from China but "EU priority line" so you have no worries with taxes). So in this point of view is roborock winner for me.
since i've got multiple floors, i guess the Neato wins by default... unless the Roborock updates their software to handle multiple floors...
Considering that Neato was purchased by VorWerk, and they are basically killing the Neato line altogether, go for the Roborock.
Thanks for the video, it was very informative =)
Great vid. Wonder if there is any information about the filtration performance of these vacuums?
I have read that the roborock does not have a HEPA filter but a worse EPA 11 (E11) filter. But I have not been able to find any official information about this. If it is correct that it has a EPA 11 filter then it filtrates a minimum of 95% of particles with the size of 0.3 micrometer.
The Neato I find no information about the filter performance. I read in a review that it filter particles down to 0.3 micrometer. But I find no information about the actual performance to filter these particles. Does it filter 1% of them or 99%?
Would be great if this information could be revealed.
E12 HEPA material, which captures 99.5 percent of particles as small as 0.3 microns in diameter.
@@KypHeM may I ask where you got this information? I even asked the official Neato reseller in my country and they could not provide any information about the filter performance.
I'll get to use it.
D7 Vs roborock s6? They're the same price now
Good evening, I had a Samsung 7070 and it really had problems in the night - Looking at getting the S50 and was wondering if night cleaning is a problem with this vacuum? Cheers and thanks in advance.
John Hooper no, it is not, since it uses laser to map the surroundings and not a camera like the Samsung or Roomba does.
I've read alot of complaints regarding the Neato vacs having issues with connectivity. Do you have any info regarding this? It seems to be a big issue. I like that the neato has a square shape which can help it clean corners, but I may forfeit that and go for the roborock s5 since I don't want to deal with a vacuum not staying connected.
With a tie like this, get the one that looks cooler. So I got the roborock. Also, xiaomi is a larger more reputable brand, so I stuck with that. Also, does the neato really have better suction if the area of it's opening is larger? Does your test account for that?
Dear Vacuum Wars,
Can you please do a shark r85 vs Neato D7 review I am wondering which one to get and It would help out a lot if you did.😁
Love my Roborock S50 2nd Gen!
Can you review the roborock s6?
It's basically the same vacuum cleaner with slightly better app and 50% more quiet.
I have both robots for a couple months, they basically seem like the same robot other than Neato seems to deep clean more better while the roborocks battery is better. Overall I prefer the Neato d7
How do you feel about the roller noise on the Neato while on bare floors? I just got a D5 and the plastic guide wheels are awfully "scratchy" on our bare floors, especially compared to our old Miele Scout. Have you experienced this?
Mine isn't that loud, maybe you got a defective unit? Take it back and exchange it if if keeps bothering you
D7 had also those hard plastic wheels. S5 has a soft small wheel.
I havent noticed it.
Can they both do dark carpet?
Is the neato d7 able to run without brush? Or would it detect the absence of the brush and refuse to run?
1. Since 2*roborock is the same price as 1*Neato+1*extra dock = multiple floor plan solution goes to roborock since you can have one on each floor at the same price as manually moving the neato every day you want to clean. Less fuzz and two vacuums/docks must be the better choice. Agree? ;-)
2. You miss one important feature, google assistant integration. As of now both the old and new xiaomi can be started stopped and docked with google assistant and its super easy to setup. Can neato do that?
I have the Neato D7 and it works with Google Assistant and Alexa. You do have to jump a couple hoops to enable that feature.
Roborock from Xiaomi is a great and wise investment!
Not a single issue yet after 6months of ownership
Thanks for this! :)
i thinking of getting the Roborock S50 but i hate the bin size 1 cup is to small and the size of the roller brash is small too but in saying that i just simply can't afford the other vacuum Neato Botvac D7 $$$$ and they don't sell it in Australia...
Housewife!!! The bin size isn’t a huge deal in my opinion. I have the S50 and the first day or so it was getting super full. But I use it everyday now and it doesn’t even get half full on one pass it takes nearly 3 or 4 full cleans in turbo to fill the dust bin it’s a great vacuum
Dear all, If I understood well that some vacuum robots have some issues with the black carpet, does that problem also goes with the black tiles? I have in my apartment black dark tiles, please advise and many thanks in advance for the reply!
I bought a Neato D5 for cheaper than the roborock. I wish the Neato had as good of an app as roborock though...
The Neato app is really good, like better than anything else I have seen....except for the Roborock.
At least you don't have the Samsung r7040's the app for a $600 robot sucks. I just got a neato D5 and I hate myself for not getting one sooner
The R7040 is not my favorite, the Neatos are way better.
Based on Amazon reviews, it looks like the Roborock is the better bet. There are a slew of complaints regarding Neato Robotic's customer service, in the case that one of their units breaks down. Roborock wins the Amazon review war by far.
Ordered the Neato D7, next up is finding out how much better this robot vacuum game gets after having a Deebot N79S for 2 years. Oh my Australian Cattle dog is going love this, not. LOL
I got a neato D7 last month. Pretty pleased with some things.. Others not so much. Making a floor plan at my house a little difficult but finally managed to get it. The D7 will error out if the base surrounding area has changed at all (clothes piled up, cloths bin moved closer to base, dog bed moved etc) took a sec to realize the issue was but not a problem anymore. Cleans very well! But sometimes it would get lost and stuck behind a recliner that even had no go lines there and it went there anyway trying to "return to base" overall it cleans the pet hair and dirt very well!
So will the D5 be as good as the D7? I saw that the D5 now has no go lines.
Bryan Ramey pretty much, my parents have the D3 and there are few differences between it and the D7 now that no go lines have been added to the D3
@@alyssa5848 Thanks! I was able to snag a D5 a month ago for less than $350 and it works like magic. Bought my parents D4 for $250 from a mom and pop vacuum store and don't notice a difference in quality of a job it does
Thanks for the video! Can the zones be saved and scheduled, or are schedules always "clean everything"?
With the D7 you can schedule whole plan or a certain area.
Your statement that the Roborock has better battery life is incorrect. The comparison is only fair when you match the airflow. Since you get 120 minutes at 17 CFM on the NEATO D7 you would then compare that to the 110 minutes from the Robo also at 17 CFM. In other words the low power setting of the NEATO is equivalent to the high power setting of the Roborock (in terms of CFM) and therefore that is where the comparison lies.
The real question is... is there a value in running your vacuum at a suction Under 17 CFM?
My D7 runs at 17 CFM and does a tremendous job picking up. The D7 runs quieter at 17 and that is what we run it at when we are home. I think I paid about $600 this past Christmas at Bed Bath on sale and 20% off.
Just picked up the neato d5 from best buy for $299. Never thought I'd love an appliance this much. Best purchase I've made in a long time.
Same brother just got mine for $299 from Best buy also. I bought many Samsung robots and they were better then irobot so I kept them. Thank God I did because if I didn't I would have bought this one for $600 everything in the end worked out. But now I have to figure out what to do with 5 robots
just bought the neato as it was only $450 which is a good price.
If anyone is from UK ehere did u manage to get ahold of Roborock s5?
I vote for Neato d7
Good choice!
@@VacuumWars customer service makes a huge difference for me.
Calling the Neato app is harder to use is a understatement.
I bought the d5 and first issues were with the stupid app. Machine is amazing, the app is pure garbage especially with the new firmware update that broke the server connection.
Turns out the blasted server won’t connect unless I connect it through the 2.4ghz network instead of my usual 5ghz one
This. Its the reason I returned it. They could make the app soooo much better. Roborock app makes it a clear winner for me.
@@danedwards_ee Ya, if i wasn't so fluent with tech stuff then I would've called it broken and returned it.
Neato has a very nice machine but their software department should just be replaced entirely.
I actually had trouble finding the 'Delete' button at one point because of how unintuitive it was.
Love love my roborock
How about filtration ability?
2 VIDEOS IN ONE DAY!!!
I wanted to get rid of the last two video with the old studio and equipment. From here on out all the videos will be (what I hope) will be much higher quality.
Vacuum Wars oh really nice
Roborock it is! Thanks
Hi,
Does the roborock S5 work with google assistant?
Thanks.
i have a bissell smart clean can you test that...
Neato has a much clearer and more sensible privacy policy.