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İf u want Sport Touring the best seat position in its class. You can ride 3 hours without stop you choose ninja650 2023. İf you want a race bike and only ride 30 minutes because of riding position choose 4rr. İf u want comfort choose ninja650 if you want just race speed some on track choose 4rr. If u want to ride in city or 3 4 5 hours journeys choose ninja650. İf you want short rides choose race bike. they cannot be compared because their riding purposes. are different. Ride safe take care. Both cool bikes!
You clearly havent ridden a zx4rr. Its such a small bike that you can sit almost upright on it comfy af and tuck when you want to go fast. Its a very comfortable ride. I own neither but work for a dealer and have ridden both on multiple occasions both comfy rides. I feel the biggest difference is the power down low on the 650stock compared to 4rr stock. The 4rr makes no power under 6-8k rpm 650 will power wheelie in most gears depending on ur weight and if you dip the front first. Now if you flash the 4rr remove the restrictions and allow the tps to function off the real twist of the wrist it gets much more torquey but still nowhere close to what a big piston can do.
Thanks for the great comparison video. Both fun bikes from Kawasaki. I have a '21 Ninja 650 and for 20 years of riding motorcycles, it's perfect for my riding style, but can still easily get one into trouble with 127+ mph and 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds. For the 4 gallons, I get 200 miles range, which is great. The low end power is able to lift the front up a bit with just the throttle fully opened from low gear. Very flickable and easy to control, which surprised me. A very practical, comfortable motorcycle.
I love my 650. If i race. I will choose zx4rr. But every day is not a racing day rather a day going through heavy traffic in all weathers. All i know is my 650 can go up to 350km by just pumping gas of 14 liters
If even it was Ninja 650 vs Ninja 400 I'll would choose Ninja 400 as Ninja 400 has +2-3 kmph more per gear top speed and Ninja 650 has limiter on 213 and Ninja 400 has limiter on 216. So here I would anyday go for ZX-4R
@@no_name4080 Not really. Unfortunately a Ninja 400 because of it's torque advantage actually can beat a ZX-4RR on track. Good rider on track prepped but still cheaper overall Ninja 400 can beat a good rider on a ZX-4RR with a exhaust. The ZX-4RR is a very good bike, I'm glad Kawasaki made it but compared to the ZX-6RR chassis and suspension it's lacking in quality. Which would be fine if it was lighter, it's a bit too heavy. Reduce it's weight but still being able to ride it on the street and have fully adjustable suspension in the front then it'll probably smoke the Ninja 400. However as it sits right not we can't ignore the torque advantage a P-twin like the Ninja 400 has, and we also need to remember that the Ninja 400 is also quite peaky, unlike the bigger Ninja 650 which is way more torquey. However the Ninja 650 is a bad bike, or at least a absolutely horrible Kawasaki Ninja bike. Shouldn't be compared, it should be out of production instead. Good torque is good, but it has no peaky power which is what a Ninja should have. It has the worst power and worst torque numbers, and is commonly compared to the way better, but of course less powerful Ninja 400, and not it's competitors. Kawasaki is such a cool manufacturer right now, the best currently, except for their middleweight 650cc bikes which suck compared to even the old and aging parts bin bike MT-07, and especially the new and great GSX-8S and Hornet 750, and if you got the money a Tuono660/RS660 or a Duke 890. I wouldn't say the Ninja 400 is obsolete as it's a very good bike for beginners, and unless you have money and you really want to rev the shit out of your bike with a cool sound then you should get the Ninja 400 and not the ZX-4RR as your beginner motorcycle. The Ninja 650 however has been obsolete from the start, garbage bike.
@@eirikaustad7580 you sound like you want a ninja 650 flashed to enjoy its power and confort but can NOT afford it! Because is 3 grand more for the extra cc’s you sound very hurt!
@@EdDesan77 You seem to have very basic understanding of motorcycles only thinking of extra displacement. You know nothing about my financial situation or the pricing for bikes in my country and continue to comment. I can afford it but it ain't worth 13k $ quickly converted over to dollars.
@@no_name4080 Z650 is naked bike with same engine, red line and torque. Its not the case. But that gloriuous 4 cylinders sound is just amazing, you should go for 4RR only of this )
@@no_name4080 I currently own a 2009 ER6n .. yeah, it's awesome .. great torque , very easy to handle .. great all rounder bike . I plan to buy the MT 07 someday when I have the money .. even more torque + 270° crank parallel twin..
@@InegoMinblan not everyone likes flatplane inline 4 sound. I'm one of the very few people that like the exhaust note of 270° parallel twin/Crossplane 2 , Vtwin more than flatplane inline 4.. But my most favorite is the Crossplane 4 .
@@InegoMinblan not a fan of flatplane inline 4 sound. So I would choose torque. Also the 180°crank parallel twin sounds boring on low RPM , but mid to high RPM sounds great .
Or buy both and anything else you want. If you can afford it why not & you only live once (My mrs words so I don't feel bad about the $$ I spent lol) I purchased the 500 and zx4rr both in 40th anniversary and I even put money on 25 650 KRT but 650 i have to wait for (500 has extras eg sliders tank guards, cowl, radiator guard whereas zx4rr came with FK all) Australia the 650 is hopefully here October. Im still in easy break in period on them, so I can't really comment yet on performance or top speeds. Problem is zx4 isn't learner approved here (i have to wait a few months until I can legally take out zx4) the other two i can ride (Mrs agreed to ride so I'll make out one of the bikes was purchased for her lol Not that she'll believe that ❤)
Getting bored of these comparison vids where you compare two completely different machines. Do an r1 vs sv650 next. Or a harley sportster and a 765 street triple.
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acceleration video of both and fuel consumption video on 130kmph in real time would be great to add to that video
İf u want Sport Touring the best seat position in its class. You can ride 3 hours without stop you choose ninja650 2023. İf you want a race bike and only ride 30 minutes because of riding position choose 4rr. İf u want comfort choose ninja650 if you want just race speed some on track choose 4rr. If u want to ride in city or 3 4 5 hours journeys choose ninja650. İf you want short rides choose race bike. they cannot be compared because their riding purposes. are different. Ride safe take care. Both cool bikes!
The zx4rr isn’t nearly as bad as you make it out to be. It’s halfway between a 650 and zx6r, which has an actually aggressive position
You clearly havent ridden a zx4rr. Its such a small bike that you can sit almost upright on it comfy af and tuck when you want to go fast. Its a very comfortable ride. I own neither but work for a dealer and have ridden both on multiple occasions both comfy rides. I feel the biggest difference is the power down low on the 650stock compared to 4rr stock. The 4rr makes no power under 6-8k rpm 650 will power wheelie in most gears depending on ur weight and if you dip the front first. Now if you flash the 4rr remove the restrictions and allow the tps to function off the real twist of the wrist it gets much more torquey but still nowhere close to what a big piston can do.
your videos are awesome. Highly underrated channel. I hope this gains more traction, you deserve it!
Thanks for the great comparison video. Both fun bikes from Kawasaki. I have a '21 Ninja 650 and for 20 years of riding motorcycles, it's perfect for my riding style, but can still easily get one into trouble with 127+ mph and 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds. For the 4 gallons, I get 200 miles range, which is great. The low end power is able to lift the front up a bit with just the throttle fully opened from low gear. Very flickable and easy to control, which surprised me. A very practical, comfortable motorcycle.
1/4 mile time ?
@@InegoMinblan I'm not certain. The 650 Ninja can hit 100 mph/160 kph in maybe 8 to 9 seconds, but I need to time it better next time.
@@BlackArroToons we will wait the results 1/4 :)
I love my 650. If i race. I will choose zx4rr. But every day is not a racing day rather a day going through heavy traffic in all weathers. All i know is my 650 can go up to 350km by just pumping gas of 14 liters
how in hell you managed to take it all the way to 350km? mine runs out of gas after 230km tops.
650 is more for me, but you can’t deny the sound of that inline 4.
can you put 180mm rear tire for the zx4rr?
El sonido de los 4 cilindros es precioso
If even it was Ninja 650 vs Ninja 400 I'll would choose Ninja 400 as Ninja 400 has +2-3 kmph more per gear top speed and Ninja 650 has limiter on 213 and Ninja 400 has limiter on 216. So here I would anyday go for ZX-4R
@@no_name4080 Not really. Unfortunately a Ninja 400 because of it's torque advantage actually can beat a ZX-4RR on track.
Good rider on track prepped but still cheaper overall Ninja 400 can beat a good rider on a ZX-4RR with a exhaust.
The ZX-4RR is a very good bike, I'm glad Kawasaki made it but compared to the ZX-6RR chassis and suspension it's lacking in quality.
Which would be fine if it was lighter, it's a bit too heavy. Reduce it's weight but still being able to ride it on the street and have fully adjustable suspension in the front then it'll probably smoke the Ninja 400. However as it sits right not we can't ignore the torque advantage a P-twin like the Ninja 400 has, and we also need to remember that the Ninja 400 is also quite peaky, unlike the bigger Ninja 650 which is way more torquey. However the Ninja 650 is a bad bike, or at least a absolutely horrible Kawasaki Ninja bike. Shouldn't be compared, it should be out of production instead. Good torque is good, but it has no peaky power which is what a Ninja should have. It has the worst power and worst torque numbers, and is commonly compared to the way better, but of course less powerful Ninja 400, and not it's competitors.
Kawasaki is such a cool manufacturer right now, the best currently, except for their middleweight 650cc bikes which suck compared to even the old and aging parts bin bike MT-07, and especially the new and great GSX-8S and Hornet 750, and if you got the money a Tuono660/RS660 or a Duke 890.
I wouldn't say the Ninja 400 is obsolete as it's a very good bike for beginners, and unless you have money and you really want to rev the shit out of your bike with a cool sound then you should get the Ninja 400 and not the ZX-4RR as your beginner motorcycle. The Ninja 650 however has been obsolete from the start, garbage bike.
@@eirikaustad7580 you sound like you want a ninja 650 flashed to enjoy its power and confort but can NOT afford it! Because is 3 grand more for the extra cc’s you sound very hurt!
@@EdDesan77 You seem to have very basic understanding of motorcycles only thinking of extra displacement.
You know nothing about my financial situation or the pricing for bikes in my country and continue to comment. I can afford it but it ain't worth 13k $ quickly converted over to dollars.
the sound of the zx4rr is music to my ears
Ninja zxr10r vs cbr 1000 rr-r sp?
Torque lover .. the 650 is my choice .. easily..
Also twins are great for daily commuting.
@@no_name4080 Z650 is naked bike with same engine, red line and torque. Its not the case. But that gloriuous 4 cylinders sound is just amazing, you should go for 4RR only of this )
@@no_name4080 I currently own a 2009 ER6n .. yeah, it's awesome .. great torque , very easy to handle .. great all rounder bike .
I plan to buy the MT 07 someday when I have the money .. even more torque + 270° crank parallel twin..
@@InegoMinblan not everyone likes flatplane inline 4 sound.
I'm one of the very few people that like the exhaust note of 270° parallel twin/Crossplane 2 , Vtwin more than flatplane inline 4..
But my most favorite is the Crossplane 4 .
@@pdrider7918 we comparing Ninja 650 sound and ZX4RR. 400 has solid, adult, gorgeous sound, 650 has sound of grass-cutter or 50cc scooter )
@@InegoMinblan not a fan of flatplane inline 4 sound. So I would choose torque.
Also the 180°crank parallel twin sounds boring on low RPM , but mid to high RPM sounds great .
Kawa Forever 🖤💚🖤
Australia max rpm 14500. I need to get a reflash but I also have 2yr warranty so maybe I'll leave it
Or buy both and anything else you want. If you can afford it why not & you only live once (My mrs words so I don't feel bad about the $$ I spent lol) I purchased the 500 and zx4rr both in 40th anniversary and I even put money on 25 650 KRT but 650 i have to wait for (500 has extras eg sliders tank guards, cowl, radiator guard whereas zx4rr came with FK all) Australia the 650 is hopefully here October. Im still in easy break in period on them, so I can't really comment yet on performance or top speeds. Problem is zx4 isn't learner approved here (i have to wait a few months until I can legally take out zx4) the other two i can ride (Mrs agreed to ride so I'll make out one of the bikes was purchased for her lol Not that she'll believe that ❤)
Inline 4 Lover 💪
Edit: In the Philippines, zx4rr can reach 20-25 km/L or depends on Rider
650 minimum 4.3l/100km in not fast ECO ride 80-100km/h. But we need to compare both on real time consumption on 130kmph, would be great
Ninja zxr10r vs zx10rr ?
The 11,500 rpm limit is not true in the us. Trust me mine redlines at 16K
I think he means theres no power after 11500 because it really does die off after that
mi god the content is great but the AI voiceover is pretty bad
It's because the uploader is Indian
They know that nobody would watch if they spoke
zx25r plz😊
650 is a commuter the zx4rr is a track toy
tell me insurance costs!!
One improvement to your videos would be to have imperial measurements included for viewers that don’t use metric.
Nah metric is objectively better i mean no one wants to convert feet to inches or pounds to ounces
Getting bored of these comparison vids where you compare two completely different machines. Do an r1 vs sv650 next. Or a harley sportster and a 765 street triple.