Kawasaki Ninja 400 vs ZX4RR (Full Comparison)

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  • Опубликовано: 31 янв 2025

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  • @yammienoob
    @yammienoob  Год назад +26

    It's the last day to enter to win this Ninja 400 and a complete rider kit! Go to yammienoob.co !!! 5X entries until the end

  • @dbruntz1
    @dbruntz1 Год назад +614

    I bought the zx4rr. It’s a little more than sound. The quick shifter, screen, and potential once flashed make it more fun than a 180 degree parallel twin. 4K is a lot, but you get a really unique bike that’s a ton of fun.

    • @percio6802
      @percio6802 Год назад +36

      I understand, but at that point why not just go for a 600? Sure it's a lot more power but it also has rider modes which would help especially as a beginner

    • @dbruntz1
      @dbruntz1 Год назад +105

      A 600 is a big jump. I had one before, and it's great. But the 400 can scream down city streets without putting you in trouble. It's for sure a niche buy. But it's worth it to me.

    • @tarnishedsquid2967
      @tarnishedsquid2967 Год назад +12

      It's a unique bike but ye definitely paying for it. Bought a new XSR 900 instead. Same otd price. The 400 was actually a little more 😂

    • @dave12059
      @dave12059 Год назад +12

      It comes down to, play in gears 4,5,6; or 1,2,3. Everybody gets to choose. Either way works. Should I ever get a 600, it would be just a track bike.

    • @obscenities4073
      @obscenities4073 Год назад +14

      Gotta agree. I upgraded from the z400 to the ZX-4RR. I got kinda lucky for mine, though. Coworker wanted my z400 and paid a good amount of cash for it. Turned it around to pay for my ZX-4RR and had some leftover.

  • @irishtrash5
    @irishtrash5 Год назад +272

    Me: "I have never wanted a comparison of these two bikes."
    Proceeds to watch the whole video.

    • @mikescombatgames
      @mikescombatgames Год назад +1

      This. So much this. I don’t know why, but Yamm’s breakdowns hit all my data buttons.

  • @ragerider6283
    @ragerider6283 Год назад +77

    It's restriced to 55bhp in North America due to the US noise regs according to Kawasaki. It wasn't their choice as everywhere else in the world it has the full 75bhp.

  • @eod5762
    @eod5762 Год назад +71

    I'm a returning rider after 30 years. My first bike was an FZR 600. Sweet bike back in the day. I chose the Ninja 400 because of the price point and because I need to relearn how to ride. Believe me, I compared the hell out of these two bikes, and I just could not see a reason to spend the extra cash plus the flash and the exhaust etc. I love my 400, it's awesome and perfect for me. More then likely I'll be trading it in for a bigger bike in a couple of years, or maybe I'll keep it. Only time will tell, but right now, I'm extremely happy with my decision. Oh, I got the black version as well. Ride safe! :)

    • @shannonbyrd5046
      @shannonbyrd5046 10 месяцев назад

      DOPE!!!! I'm thinking of getting one!!!

    • @faaked.
      @faaked. 5 месяцев назад

      torn between the two as a new rider, love the sound and electric startup on the zx4rr and currently could care less about the acceleration and whatnot. But the price difference is kind of wild...

  • @sleeper.simulant7327
    @sleeper.simulant7327 Год назад +100

    Watched pulls with both these bikes, full bolt on Ninja 400 (exhaust, intake, velocity stacks, dyno tune) and exhaust/tuned ZX4RR. The Ninja 400 in a roll took it off the throttle every time, and the ZX4RR didn’t reel it in until about 90 mph on both rolls. At those higher speeds the ZX4RR showed its high RPM/high speed strengths after its been unrestricted… the Ninja is overall extremely impressive for such an inexpensive platform!

  • @curtiswalston3246
    @curtiswalston3246 11 месяцев назад +5

    I bought my first bike last week. Gently used Ninja 400 KRT w/ ABS. Yammy nails it with his description and recommendation for first timers like me.

  • @3thndv155
    @3thndv155 Год назад +42

    My neighbors will know I own a motorcycle with the ninja 400 but my neighbor's neighbor will know I own a motorcycle with the ZX4R ;)

  • @SongJLikes
    @SongJLikes Год назад +124

    So I’ve always been intoxicated by the 4-cylinder scream… but the deeper I dove into the details/dynamics that come with owning a 4-cylinder bike, the more I appreciate riding my Cbr500r on the streets of Detroit.

    • @irishtrash5
      @irishtrash5 Год назад +4

      I have the Z900 RS from Yam and after 8 months in LA and multiple 1000+ mile rides.... I still love the sound, but I also want a v-twin now...

    • @dave12059
      @dave12059 Год назад +5

      I have a store bought 900RS, bought the 4RR plan to get the hp’s come winter. Signed up for track day and though late in life will fulfill a bucket list item. And I do not really feel the 4RR needs much power added, but have not put it on the line against anything as yet either. A track day may show the need. To and fro to work it’s a fine commuter. As is the 900RS, just heavy and I do not want to drop it. Ones for fun the other, Let the good times roll!!!

    • @vloneLocstar
      @vloneLocstar Год назад +3

      Getting my first bike (GXSR750) this spring and idk anyone who rides in this area(Shelby Township) I’m down to ride if you are brother just lmk

    • @therealfakecaptain7978
      @therealfakecaptain7978 Год назад +3

      Compared to parallel twins inline 4s sound really great and are super smooth down low but the lack of torque in the low/mid range is a pain in the ass indeed.

    • @hyedefinition1080
      @hyedefinition1080 Год назад +3

      @@irishtrash5 I have a Z900RS cafe and a 2013 Monster 796 with mivv exhaust...best of both worlds lol
      Z900RS is smooth, refined, and gentlemanly; the Ducati is the opposite: unpredictable, bouncy, burns my legs and rowdy
      I do want to try out a Street Triple or a V4 next

  • @eliotsalandybrown
    @eliotsalandybrown Год назад +14

    Thanks for your consistently balanced, wise and informed perspectives on motorbikes. A beacon of clarity.

  • @davidlobaugh4490
    @davidlobaugh4490 Год назад +129

    16,000 RPM and 75 horsepower with a flash is absolutely worth 4000 more. A bargain really. I'm a R6 owner and fanatic, And I super duper want that 400 inline four, The only Kawasaki around here is an old jet ski. 🤠

    • @HyusKays
      @HyusKays 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha you remember the 250/300 inJetSki

    • @AERoVALKYRiE
      @AERoVALKYRiE 4 месяца назад +5

      Lmao😂 It costs 2k or more to make 75hp on a zx4rr. Just spend that 2k for a zx6r that has 130hp, better brakes and better suspension right out factory.
      Zx4rr is a terrible buy

  • @Jenuin
    @Jenuin Год назад +17

    As an owner of a ZX4RR and a CBR500R plus 13 other bikes …. Mostly other peoples projects I have bought…. I completely agree with Yammie 😅 I love the ZX4RR and I will tune it one day but for now it good while the warranty is valid. She will pass my CBR500 like it’s standing still. 😅

  • @MrSoosas
    @MrSoosas Год назад +8

    @Fortnine did a video that very well explains why the ZX4RR is tuned how it is for the north american market. Boils down to tailpipe emissions and noise regulations. If it is tuned up the bigger explosions at the same insane frequency mean a higher internal engine temp that ends up producing more bad emissions and (because bigger boom) more noise. I love how it sounds stock and really doubt the "need" for more power but I'm just a freak that likes small bikes anyway

  • @Blackacreonfire
    @Blackacreonfire Год назад +13

    It isn't just about beginner riders and/or track days. I have been riding for over 20 years. In my jurisdiction, mandatory insurance on anything over 400 cc is stupid expensive (even if it's an A2 compliant rebel or something - doesn't matter - a Rebel 500 will cost the same to insure as a GSXR750, but a ZX4RR will cost the same as a 150 cc scooter). So I am riding a z400 (same bike as the ninja 400, less fairings). I love that little bike, and it gives up nothing to the larger bikes when we're out in the twisties. It's just a great bonus that It's already paid for itself vs what I used to pay to insure my VFR. But the extra power, ride modes, etc. of the ZX4RR calls to me - I have a deposit on a 2024. Sucks that you have to get 'em flashed to get the power it's supposed to have, but at least that option is available..

    • @M16xDr0pSh0tz
      @M16xDr0pSh0tz Год назад

      you have one life whatre you gonna spend it worrying about insurance

  • @muhammadzkhan224
    @muhammadzkhan224 Год назад +8

    Amazing content as always. Brilliant video. Thank you for this, Yammie 🙏🏽

  • @SupaStatic
    @SupaStatic Год назад +38

    This is coming from a new to the community, Daily Driver of a ZX4RR:
    The price point IS a deal breaker for most yes. And I understand that most people just getting into bikes are below my age, though I’m still in my 20s. Not everyone can afford it, but I lean towards the ZX4RR as a great beginner bike because it can be your one and done.
    Doing the math, I’d spend more money over time buying a bike I know I wouldn’t be 100% content with, and then upgrading to another bike later down the line.
    I personally didn’t like the sound of a dirt bike (lawnmower haha) so twin engines were not my first option.
    The ZX4R is smoother because of the 4 cylinders, and it’s beautiful because it’s heavier so you don’t get tossed around in the wind going highway speeds. Also, it’s nerfed for the American market because of regulations (sound and smog) not because Kawasaki decided it for the Shizz and Giggles.
    But you can pound through all the gears and still have fun, vs my guys on 600s that can’t go full beans before reaching even 4th gear.
    You learn to shift on more gears, you learn weight and resistance, if it scares you, ride in rain mode, then go to road and sport after.
    It’s a 400 so insurance was dirt cheap, and when you really become adept and you’re ready for more Power, you can flash and tune it, and you have ‘another’ bike. Kind of like 2 bikes in 1.
    It’s the best Daily one can have because there’s so much involved, but as a first time bike rider, this being my very first bike; It might be my last to be honest. It’s faster than you’d ever need (why want to go 180mph + ?), I can keep up with cruise meets very easily, it’s very ergonomic so you can ride for hours without tired arms or back, and it can be everything you want it to be. Has hooks on the bumper and frame so you literally can physically tie down backpacks/duffel bags for traveling or long journeys (something I’ve only ever seen one RUclipsr talk about)
    What more could you want?
    The ZX4R is perfect because it’s fast enough for more than you’ll ever need, at mid triple digit speeds it’ll hesitate to let you know if that’s what you REALLY want to do, slow enough that you can bang 6 gears at 45 mph for a nice afternoon cruise, comfortable, and forgiving.
    The ZX4RR is perfect.

    • @Rx37Legacy
      @Rx37Legacy Год назад +5

      I'm thinking you are making very valid points here. Actually just the insurance alone will probably get you your original money back in the long run vs if you buy a 600cc or bigger bike.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 Год назад +1

      @@Rx37Legacy Insurance is pricey... I'll probably self insure pretty soon just because its such a ripoff. I could chain 3x brand new Harley's (with 121 HP each) like to a chariot or something wild riding down the road and its still cheaper to insure that than my 600 sportbike!

    • @itsmeagain1745
      @itsmeagain1745 Год назад +1

      Excellent write-up. My thoughts exactly.
      I love to take a look at one when they get here (Norway) and compare it to my Ninja 400.

    • @nSquared75
      @nSquared75 6 месяцев назад +1

      It would be perfect maybe about 2k less. It’s not remotely marketable in the beginner bike class. It’s a niche machine that doesn’t really outperform a bike at half the cost. Most will not keep their first bike. This is evermore true in the US.
      I’ll use 2 points you make.
      Shifts are not dictated by the cylinder count. The comment about it shifts smoother because of it having 4 cylinders just isn’t true and is dependent on ton of mechanical factors. Gearing is a big one because the N400 enters its powerband at lower rpm. If you’ve ever ridden or drove any manual vehicle with lower gearing, you know what this means. It equates to a learning curve for smooth shifts. The term “short gears” comes to mind.
      The rr weighs barely nothing over the N400. It may feel more stable since it’s not gonna vibrate you put into the universe due to being an I4. I’ll concur that the upgrade to the bike itself may lend a hand in some but, not for double the price.
      I’ll say that due to its design it’s more city street able than many 600’s, as they can be appear guttless at low speeds and rpm. Which can make them a bore in low speed city areas

  • @spencerd2156
    @spencerd2156 Год назад +57

    I think we're missing the point of the ZX4RR. I will admit the American market de-tune is annoying and puts folks that love the concept, like me, on the defensive. BUT, to understand the bike you have to compare the twin 400 to the zx4RR properly tuned at ~75hp. It's a perfect jump from my current CBR500R on my way to something more. I'm in my mid 30s and just getting into riding the past few years. I really want a 4 cyl RR type bike, but I don't want a 115hp 600cc race replica after my simple 500 twin. The ZX4RR's I-4 engine is a perfect step on the way to I-4 600cc's for us that want to take our progression slowly. I used to look at bikes like this offered overseas and I was always curious. I think other riders like me exist in the US more and more.

    • @dave12059
      @dave12059 Год назад +4

      With throttle control the 4RR will pull plenty well enough, want more, shift down and work your way back through the gears

    • @crash5811
      @crash5811 Год назад +3

      I would say ur overthinking it. The zx6 will make less torque than the 500 throughout the rev range of the 500, but then it will start to grow power all the way out and it will keep u excited for a while, where i think the 4rr will b underwhelming after a few miles. U need to ride it hard to keep up w the 500 whereas w the 6r u dont. And when the 6 starts to excite ur butterflies u just close the throttle a little and ull b right as rain. But its ur choice, ride smart stay safe

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile Год назад

      I'm not missing the point, but these "journalists" really hate this bike. Btw drinking game over how many times this guy retracts and extends his phallus.

    • @dankblissey6162
      @dankblissey6162 8 месяцев назад +2

      Honestly yeah, what I really want to eventually get it something like a bike equivalent of an S2000. Something that isn't necessary insanely powerful, but has a fun, high revving engine, and takes corners really well and generally is sporty

    • @spencerd2156
      @spencerd2156 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@dankblissey6162 I can see that comparison. I went from an Integra GS-R to a 240SX with a too-big for me turbo. That jump in power/skill is why I'm a bit careful now that I'm older. I could've wrecked or gotten hurt. I still have my cbr500R and decided I wanted to finish my 10K mile goal before I make a decision. I have a track day event coming up later in the summer. I'd rather just get seat time in the bike I have. I'm just not as quick at this as driving. Maybe I'll never go bigger, and I'm okay with that.

  • @richardwarsinske7064
    @richardwarsinske7064 Год назад +40

    Ninja 400 is the best choice for most riders and those who would appreciate the RR probably already know that's what they want! I keep hoping my favorite Chinese Motorcycle company Kove will start selling Bikes here which would give us a 70hp 4 cylinder supersport that weighs closer to and costs about the same as the Ninja but if we can't even get Honda Hornets here I'm not going to hold my breath.

    • @katprowler6805
      @katprowler6805 Год назад +2

      Cfmoto makes pretty decent sport bikes actually.

  • @Enszourous
    @Enszourous Год назад +15

    Yammie, there’s no way you put the 400 on the left, but your list has the ZX4RR on the left 😂 consistency!

  • @gabrielgonthier5049
    @gabrielgonthier5049 Год назад +3

    Another excellent analysis. You really show the little differences between these two beautiful bikes. Your informations and impressions are really useful and are, for me, references for making a good choice between these two bikes. "Always in the green! Thanks a lot!

  • @kevinmarshall5102
    @kevinmarshall5102 Год назад +2

    Wifes bike is the ninja 400 boight used for 4500 no miles. Extremely happy with it. Great noises, and from 8-12k rpms it shoots. My xsr700 78hp with mods is about 400 lbs and i still enjoy her 360lb 400cc non tuned

  • @colino3615
    @colino3615 Год назад +20

    It would be cool if you compared the zx4rr to the 650 since they are in a similar price point.

    • @vandaminator1
      @vandaminator1 8 месяцев назад

      zx4rr is much more expensive than the Ninja 650

  • @michaelparker2449
    @michaelparker2449 Год назад +5

    Thinking back 30 years or so most definitely was the golden age of small capacity sports bikes, but I have to admit the choice is much better now for the more practical small sporty bikes.

  • @turmat01
    @turmat01 Год назад +6

    I'm doing a return to motorcycles after several years. My Ninja 400 makes me IMPOSSIBLY happy. Yes, it lacks power (which you wouldn't really be getting with the RR either, not without that flash anyway...), but the thing is FUN to ride around! Very very light and agile, comfortable position, the sound has nothing on a bike with a good pipe... but to be honest, it's not bad, at WOT above 8000 it sounds pretty nice actually. Also the gearing makes it super fun, you can accelerate like a madman in first and second... and you're still at legal-ish speeds. If you were to just gun the first on a 1000 SS, you'd kill somebody XD
    I'm sure the RR is even more fun... but to be honest, the Ninja 400 is ENOUGH. If the price difference was slim, I'd say go for the RR. But given this price tag... I might get a Ninja 650 instead of the 400RR. The registration cost of a 650 is more though... I'd hesitate... In any case, I'm very happy with the Ninja 400. It's not out of the equation that I might put a lighter and breathier exhaust on it at some point to shed a few pounds and maybe gain a couple HPs.

  • @davefeudal1606
    @davefeudal1606 Год назад +8

    I’ve had a 400 for 3 years now. At first I wanted more power coming from a CBR 600 that my buddy crashed. Honestly Yeah sure it’s cool to go fast in a straight line but I found what’s even better is being able to twist the throttle on this little 400 and throw it around like a toy which is what it is. My riding has improved I’ve learned how to lean and hug the tank with my leg. For 6k it’s the better package. Why spend 10k on something that’s so similar to the 4 but not as much fun? At that point might as well go the extra 2 for 600.

  • @mrkcaldwe5
    @mrkcaldwe5 Год назад +3

    Yammie they will know the difference. That sound is amazing! I have a Z400 and I do agree at high revs it sounds nice, BUT that 4cyl. sound is amazing! I just don’t want the big power 4cyl.

  • @MattyDemello
    @MattyDemello Год назад +4

    I got a 2015 ninja ex300. I just bought it 2 months ago with only 900 miles on it. I already put 1,000 miles on it!! Happened so fast. Love the 300. I live in Massachusetts so its a lot of city driving. The 300 for city riding is perfect for me. Im very happy with it.

  • @errickkitchin36
    @errickkitchin36 Год назад +2

    I love watching these videos even though I'm a cruiser guy and don't know the first thing about sport bikes.

    • @M16xDr0pSh0tz
      @M16xDr0pSh0tz Год назад

      same even though yammie doesnt acknowledge that kawasaki is better than yamaha

    • @errickkitchin36
      @errickkitchin36 Год назад

      @@M16xDr0pSh0tz I ride a Fury, and I love my bike to death. Little biased towards Honda.

  • @Sarlekos
    @Sarlekos Год назад +3

    Awesome vid, I know this is silly but next time put the name of the motorcycles on the correct side. On the board the zx4rr is on the left and ninja 400 on the right but the bikes are parked on opposite sides. Just a small thing but would be less confusing for those who cant tell them appart. sick vid!

  • @CMB911
    @CMB911 Год назад +6

    I love that Yam is reviewing two Kawis whilst wearing a Yamaha Champions Riding School t-shirt!!

  • @Tiagotaf
    @Tiagotaf 10 месяцев назад +2

    It's ridiculously cheap these bikes in USA... almost unbelievable. You could buy them with a month's salary with ease. In my country you'd need about 3 months of work to buy the 400. The ZX would be about 6 months salary. I say this considering an average salary equivalent in both countries.

  • @Fr0z0rz
    @Fr0z0rz 9 месяцев назад +1

    I needed this, been wrestling for a few months. The ultimate sellimg point for me is the KQS.

  • @CarlRei
    @CarlRei Год назад +3

    You'd hear the difference several blocks away. Main 2 things why you'd get the zx4rr. Power and sound.

  • @spcneary
    @spcneary Год назад +6

    I am an experienced rider, I think a zx4rr would be an awesome bike. I like smaller displacement bikes because you get to use all the power on a regular basis, zx4rr seems like the ultimate version of that. My only complaint without ever riding it is weight, that bike should weigh well under 400lbs. 75hp at 16k RPM and 360lbs sounds like a machine that would motivate me to spend 10k.

  • @dTheHammerb
    @dTheHammerb Год назад +7

    Flashing the ZX4RR to get the full 75hp out of it would void the warranty though, wouldn't it? Also, the frame on the ZX4RR being steel really increased the weight of it. Should've made it aluminum. Hope you can reply to my comment though, would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks man.

    • @SiliconDrifter
      @SiliconDrifter Год назад

      Yes it would void. Any telling you that you can just flash it back and they won't know is full of shit. They'll know

  • @Trekopolis
    @Trekopolis 9 месяцев назад

    I've ridden many bikes, but when I reviewed the Ninja 400 last year, it simply felt right. I liked it even more than the BMW M 1,000 R and that's because it fit me better. That's what matters more than anything, a bike you feel comfortable on. I've never been a "sport bike" guy, but after experiencing the Ninja 400, I'd love to own one for those days where you want to mount a bike that matches your energy level.

  • @jonathanalfred9847
    @jonathanalfred9847 Год назад +1

    I have been riding for many years. And i have test ridden many bikes including the Ninja 400. Which i really liked. But then only three months ago i bought a 2017 Ducati 939 Supersport with only 2159 km on it for a good price. and i really love it. But in certain situations i love a smaller and lighter bike. Also a bike i can park somewhere without worrying as much about it. And just three days ago i came across a 2020 Ninja 400 for sale. It was first registered in Nov 2021. And looked like new with 288 km on it. At a really good price. And i couldnt resist buying it. On the smaller twisties it is just a joy to ride. And i am no beginner. I love both of my bikes. The Ninja 400 is a really nice bike. It doesnt have much low end power. But has no problem getting up to speed on the small canyons. And you can wip it around and have tons of fun on it.

  • @sportstours24
    @sportstours24 Год назад +3

    The zx 4r is one of the few 4 cylinders sportsbikes that you can ride daily because of the ergos. The ducati supersport is another option, but costlier.

  • @SebastianBlix
    @SebastianBlix Год назад +3

    You’d know the difference between the two from blocks away, loooong before you actually saw it Yam😂

  • @JSway212
    @JSway212 Год назад +2

    Man I want one. I don’t do my motorcycle course until July 28 and 29 then I’ll be licensed and ready

  • @67daltonknox
    @67daltonknox Год назад +1

    The only point of small displacement bikes is light weight for better handling. Better off with a 600 than the ZX4RR?

  • @kev.1kr
    @kev.1kr Год назад +7

    Sheesh that RR! Is nice

  • @Snake75055
    @Snake75055 Год назад +2

    The more I look at it the slight difference I think I like the look of the 400 a little bit more.

  • @guillermokleisinger5548
    @guillermokleisinger5548 9 месяцев назад

    Im all in for that 4 cylinder sound. I wished the zx4rr was sold in Argentina's market

  • @HtxGrimace
    @HtxGrimace Год назад +1

    Papa yammie im sure you’re working on it but could we please get a review of the 2024 ZX6R 636. I’m really looking into that bike. Thank you!

  • @RoachVlogsBlogs
    @RoachVlogsBlogs Год назад +2

    Man I cant wait to get the 400 in all white

  • @MRIMan
    @MRIMan Год назад +1

    Ninja 400 vs CF 450 ! Next

  • @miguel90744
    @miguel90744 Год назад +2

    Reviewing the ninjas while wearing a Yamaha shirt 😂🔥🔥

  • @ManlyHK1
    @ManlyHK1 3 месяца назад

    2 important things: 1) the weight: are you confident to do slow traffic moves in the heavier RR? 2) the cheaper bike doesn’t have TRACTION CONTROL that you forgot to mention, means less safe for beginners. So the choice is tough. Maybe 1 more: the RR is more future proof, so you end up losing less money!

  • @pixiemoto3673
    @pixiemoto3673 Год назад

    Again thank you for comparimg them

  • @thomaswestover2443
    @thomaswestover2443 Год назад +3

    What would you buy for a daily bike the new Aprilia 440 or the zx4?

  • @kinknoppix
    @kinknoppix Год назад

    Wait I see you at Harris Hill right now. How did this video just come out. 😮😅😮

  • @indysingh2057
    @indysingh2057 3 месяца назад

    In Australia zx4rr is fully unlocked. What a beast 💪

  • @goldfish8196
    @goldfish8196 7 месяцев назад

    thanks for the video

  • @HariShankar-dw2pn
    @HariShankar-dw2pn Год назад +8

    Hoping to see the new 2024 zx6r on your channel

  • @chrisstarr4121
    @chrisstarr4121 Год назад +1

    I see the market for the 400 but not the rr. At that price point buying a 600 is a better option.

  • @English_MoFo
    @English_MoFo 11 месяцев назад +3

    Is anyone shocked he hated the zx4rr? Anyone at all. I am not shocked a bit 😬👍🏻

  • @the_derpler
    @the_derpler Год назад +2

    zx4rr is just a meme bike. It will maybe be collectable some day, but I just don't understand why I wouldn't get a 600 instead if I wanted a screaming i4. Hell I wouldn't be shocked if the 400 was faster or if not as fast around the track...

    • @kenfromhawaii1138
      @kenfromhawaii1138 Год назад +1

      600s are a dime a dozen. The ZX-4RR is way more special, even if it isn't any faster.

  • @kobrakapone
    @kobrakapone 4 месяца назад

    I have owned both bikes(financed) and honestly the ZX-4RR is way better of a choice. If you're new to riding you can put it in Rain Mode so the power is just like the Ninja 400 and it'll be more comfortable for the rider to learn on. my point is that you have way more room to grow with the ZX-4RR with more power potential and tech. It's worth the money. I think @yammienoob is biased against the price point, financing both bikes is very possible with or without credit.

  • @TheEndIsMan392
    @TheEndIsMan392 10 месяцев назад

    Why do you remind me of Tyler from SecureTeam10 channel ?? I knew you looked familar haha but yes I want Ninja 500 or now the ZX4RR but I will only have $3k to put down. The day is getting sooner and sooner and I'm excited !!!

  • @nesta8273
    @nesta8273 Год назад +2

    So between the R3, KTM 390 RC and Ninja 400 (and maybe CFMoto 450?) which would be best suited for a beginner rider?
    Actually asking for a friend, to be able to discuss the options when he get into riding.

    • @nickhowatson4745
      @nickhowatson4745 Год назад +2

      im going for the 2023 KTM RC 390 as my first bike.

    • @dave12059
      @dave12059 Год назад

      Just buy my insurance company, the naked bike wins! Less down the line expense

    • @75.
      @75. Год назад +1

      Definitely the KTM or Ninja 400. I have a 23 ninja 400 and this thing is the perfect beginner bike, super lightweight, comfortable riding position IMO more than all those other options listed.

    • @gregmccauley1687
      @gregmccauley1687 Год назад

      KTM has too many maintenance issues. My first was an R3, it's pretty and reliable. You are going to replace it anyways and everyone has a Ninja 400. After moving to big bikes the speed difference between an R3 and a Ninja 400 will be like people arguing about how much faster their cheap jdm car is than another while you drive a Ferrari. It's irrelevant.

  • @angelitogeronimo0805
    @angelitogeronimo0805 Год назад

    Wish we could join in your promotions here in the Philippines 😅 Love your reviews, Ride safe always😀👍

  • @stevec6427
    @stevec6427 Год назад +2

    Thats surprisingly a lot heavier than the old ZXR400 which was 360lb

  • @pixiemoto3673
    @pixiemoto3673 Год назад

    Your the Best and One and Only yammienoob

  • @dombower
    @dombower Год назад +4

    Zx4rr more expensive and needs extra expense of being flashed and new exhaust out of the box! Wtf

    • @glsracer
      @glsracer Год назад

      Defund the EPA, arrest the leadership of CARB. If nothing is done then eventually "you will own nothing and you will be happy"

    • @Zenasanatomy
      @Zenasanatomy Год назад +2

      Ya that 9k price tag is basically a lie. I’ll assume all 4rr owners have deep pockets and wipe their ass with silk.

    • @dbruntz1
      @dbruntz1 Год назад +1

      Cottonelle actually

    • @RedSailor1701
      @RedSailor1701 Год назад +1

      Up the 🇬🇧

    • @Zenasanatomy
      @Zenasanatomy Год назад

      @@dbruntz1 😂

  • @langhamp8912
    @langhamp8912 Год назад +1

    Wouldn't a better comparison be the Yamaha XSR900 versus the Kawasaki ZX4RR? Same price, about, and so what do you get for your money?

    • @sleeper.simulant7327
      @sleeper.simulant7327 Год назад

      Yamaha R7 is a better comparison. Price is (MSRP) $9,199 for the R7 and $9,699 for the ZX4RR. The ZX4RR has some nicer bits on it vs the R7, when both are tuned hp figures are very similar. R7 obviously has a major torque advantage, where I would assume the ZX4RR will do better at higher speeds once it’s wound to the pin. The XSR900 is $10,199, so the ZX4RR is priced right in between them…

    • @langhamp8912
      @langhamp8912 Год назад

      @@sleeper.simulant7327 I'm curious which of those three bikes would get around racetracks faster.

    • @smoke05s
      @smoke05s Год назад

      Why not compare the Yamaha XSR900 against the Kawasaki Z900 instead? (apples to apples)

    • @sleeper.simulant7327
      @sleeper.simulant7327 Год назад

      @@langhamp8912 I would presume the ZX4RR or the XSR 900. The ZX4RR has a better frame then the R7, the new XSR frame is superbike derived… also depends on the track.

  • @daymonpancheri8846
    @daymonpancheri8846 11 месяцев назад

    Rode a Ninja 400, I would agree it is a Great beginner bike, but for someone who is used to a super sport bike, it felt like a big moped you can shift, in my humble opinion.

  • @antoniocarlosacsjr7128
    @antoniocarlosacsjr7128 7 месяцев назад

    Totally agree, bro. Simply didn't get any excitement riding the ZX-4R on a test on a track. I simply don't know for whom this bike is for. Beginners that never rode any bike before are crazy and thinking this rides like even the ZX-10R don't - that's crazy! Experienced riders that already got some torque addiction will find nothing on a ZX-4R. But... even though I've never rode a Ninja 400, I've rode the Z-400. Man, what a bike. Loved it. So the 2 cil 400cc and now 500cc Kawa platform really has what one motorcycle lover really looks for on a motorcycle. You nailed it! Best from Brazil, bro. Congrats on your work on this great RUclips channel.

  • @savvy-fc9qz
    @savvy-fc9qz Год назад

    Yam you should compare the zx4rr to the rs660

    • @savvy-fc9qz
      @savvy-fc9qz Год назад

      Idk it may sound dumb but one big reason I might not get a zx4rr is because it looks so similar to a ninja 400 like too similar

  • @JRico831
    @JRico831 Год назад +2

    might as well just get a zx6r and put it in low power mode, that would be about the same hp as the flashed zx4. Not to mention parts are gonna be easier to get and cheaper for a zx6.

    • @kenfromhawaii1138
      @kenfromhawaii1138 Год назад +2

      Might as well get a ZX10 if we're playing that game

    • @Stratocasterhead51
      @Stratocasterhead51 Год назад

      Not even close. The low power mode on the 636 basically just flatlines the power above 10 000 rpm. You still get the same pull from 0-9000 rpm, maybe a touch lazier throttle response.
      The 636 will still pull like a litre bike compared to the 4r even in rain mode;

    • @kenfromhawaii1138
      @kenfromhawaii1138 Год назад +1

      @@Stratocasterhead51 Why not just buy an R1 at that point? People who want the ZX-4RR aren't buying it because of the power.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 Год назад

      @@kenfromhawaii1138 Is the ZX10 nearly identical price? No... I spent less on my new 6r than yam did for his 4rr. I repeat, I spent LESS (and I'm in a super corrupt state where finding anything even at MSRP is a shocker). It also has more suspension adjustment on the front (3 settings instead of just 1), bigger front disks, and a few other nice things.
      I went from 15 HP 250cc (had it since I was 14, which is when I had my license) to the 6r. Put it in low power for a few weeks, and you're golden. It really softens the throttle and makes it easier for smooth low speeds. Its roughly 87 HP max when its in low power, but it feels really tame (in high power with TC it can get rowdy, and optimal speed for power wheelies in 2nd gear seems to be about 65-70 mph and it hovers the front wheel up past 90 mph without a sweat).
      If the ZX10r was the same price, I would have just bought that. I've only got 2500 miles on my new 6r, but I do see that I'll probably want even more later on (around here the cops don't even bother chasing if they see you cruising along at 120-140 mph, and the roads are SOOO nice that you can maintain that speed on the sweeping curves and almost start using the sides of the tires but I think there's a decent amount of lean left in it but that's just so buttery smooth going to work or getting some breakfast, and that engine loves to scream even pegged in 6th, when its safe of course).

    • @kenfromhawaii1138
      @kenfromhawaii1138 Год назад +1

      @@jakegarrett8109 I understand your sentiment getting excited on your 600. See, I already owned a bunch of 600s. 20 years ago. I've been there, done all that already. Owned over 30 motorcycles in my life. Eventually you care less about speed, and more about fun. The ZX-4RR is just as fun as the 1000cc bikes I've ridden in the past on both street and track. For me, price is irrelevant. I want what I want, and I love my ZX-4RR.

  • @TLemonnn
    @TLemonnn Год назад

    The ZX4RR definitely does diversify the 300cc class. I’m really intrigued and I just gotta know what it’s about.

  • @damonwright3873
    @damonwright3873 Год назад +1

    I’m looking to do my bike test and debating on these. I had 4 years experience on a125 Kmx

  • @visionplayer10
    @visionplayer10 9 месяцев назад

    Exactly the video i was hoping for as soon as i seen you doing it i know id get the answers i wanted. I am a small guy at 5'3....i use to have have a ninja 400 and wondered if id be able to transition to this one. id put some soupys on it for sure but this bike would likely be at my height limit id think lol.... LOVE the 40th anniversary colour!! if i get a bike again that would be the one i want if ki could fit on er ok!

  • @Taste_Budz
    @Taste_Budz Год назад +1

    zx4rr with a flash tune is a great track bike to master handling

    • @itsmeagain1745
      @itsmeagain1745 Год назад

      Dave Moss was impressed so that says something. He has a video of the ride on his channel.
      I think the bike he used was not flashed.

  • @Coachmeister
    @Coachmeister Год назад +1

    I got a 650 as my first bike last week

  • @mattingray5651
    @mattingray5651 Год назад +1

    Disappointed that the ZX4RR only has 55hp (not a fond of flashing) while it is heavier and more expensive the 400 and costs almost twice.

    • @SiliconDrifter
      @SiliconDrifter Год назад

      Peeps be like buying a $15k bike and flashing it doesn't void warranty. Ya, it's $15k ($9k msrp + markup + tt fees)

  • @freedomrangerphillips9990
    @freedomrangerphillips9990 9 месяцев назад

    i love the zzr my son wants one, that's the market for 16-year-old because want a parallel twin or one a superbike and sound

  • @rajivvishwa
    @rajivvishwa Год назад +1

    Can someone explain why ABS is suggesting no ABS? Track bikes don't need ABS?

  • @keewoon2819
    @keewoon2819 Год назад

    @yammienoob do a detailed comparison between CFMOTO 450SR and Kawasaki Ninja 400 pleaseeeeee

  • @quade7024
    @quade7024 6 месяцев назад

    What brand of phone holder did you mount on the stem of both bikes ? I did some research as the keys are always getting in the way.

  • @liamsalvatore1424
    @liamsalvatore1424 7 месяцев назад

    Okay, but how about this, I've never riden a motorcycle in my life but I just fell so bad in love with the zx4rr that I forgot about all other bikes in the world, would it be a good started bike for me? Also I'm 5'6 I tip toe it both sides

  • @sk8terfresh
    @sk8terfresh 8 месяцев назад

    Guys when you hear a zx4rr on that flash with a exhaust you’ll know why tf North America was like oh hell na that shit will have the dead dancing thriller

  • @LuciaFerum
    @LuciaFerum Год назад

    Hello, I am writing to ask for advice. I want to buy a motorcycle to go to work from one city to another for a distance of 90 miles (sometimes 120 miles because I work in different cities) on motorways with a speed limit of 70 miles. And I want to understand which bike suits me best for daily trips (5-6 days a week) for such a distance. The manufacturer doesn't matter.

  • @abhishekkrishnia9134
    @abhishekkrishnia9134 Год назад

    Hi Yamie. I have been following you since my college Days. Being An Indian the only available Playform I could have stretched my Money Self earning I do an RC 390 2022 for 9 Months now when I came across your reviews!! You have lots of Indian Fans too. As an admirer of your Experience and connection with Bikes I do request you extend Giveaways in India too. Thanks for your contents and keep revving your success. ❤

  • @anotherdenin
    @anotherdenin Год назад

    I really want to see more videos on the cfmoto 450ss

  • @heroislegend
    @heroislegend 10 месяцев назад

    In my opinion it makes no sense to buy the ZX4RR unless you just want to waste your money and look cool. The ninja 400 is such a superior and versatile motorcycle that comes at such a great value/price. I don't know of much motorcycles that can give you the value, performance, and ergonomics as the ninja 400. I bought mine last year brand new for less than $6K after taxes and registration, you can't beat that. The thing about this motorcycle is it can be used in so many different ways. It can be a starter bike or a performance racer. It can be a commuter to work or fun yet exciting work horse. I've mainly used mine for commuting and it hasn't failed or given me any issues yet. It just makes no sense to buy the ZX4RR at that price point, there are far better motorcycles at a better price point. You can pretty much buy two ninja 400s for the price of the ZX4RR.

  • @captainplanet43
    @captainplanet43 Год назад

    It would be nice to see those 2 bikes vs the cf Moto 450 ss on track

  • @BL4CKSTEEL
    @BL4CKSTEEL Год назад

    Both will get you embarrassed at a red light by the local soccer mom’s luxury suv.

  • @Jenuin
    @Jenuin Год назад +2

    Another ZX4RR video and we have a comparison 😅 but they are as different as they are similar 😅

  • @Cthooligan
    @Cthooligan Год назад +1

    I love that they have analog instrumentation. Digital speedometers and tachs are fine for smaller bikes, but its dumb on my Z H2 with the current refresh and polling rate. The bike can easily outpace the displayed number which makes tracking 0-60 and 0-100 times pretty much impossible. TFTs need some gaming monitor spec overhauls to keep up and become viable with larger displacement bike capabilities.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 Год назад +1

      Haha, yep. Even the 6r accelerating to 25 mph speed limit and not trying to go much over next to a cop and it feels like it just zips from 20 to 35 is the next indicated number, like come on, I just have to guess within 15 mph jumps? I don't need 240 displays per second (or sometimes even faster for a gaming monitor), but I do need it to where it doesn't jump more than 2 or 3 mph each flash of the screen. If it needs 20 frames per second, then that isn't exactly rocket speeds for a display (and that would get it down to 1 mph jumps where you wouldn't even notice it).

  • @dudenamedclem
    @dudenamedclem Год назад +1

    The use of Bespoke is strong with this one.

  • @mr.darknight416
    @mr.darknight416 10 месяцев назад

    I am between 400 and 500se. Ikik 500 is almost the same as 400, but I just like the look and with se I get some extra things, while the price is just 400-500 more than 400.

  • @MrJamjammers
    @MrJamjammers Год назад

    I'm looking into getting a Ninja 400 next spring for fun and for my hour commute to work. It's mainly highway speeds 55-65 mph speed limits. Would it be better to get the zx4rr over the ninja 400 for a mainly highway commute or should I stick with the Ninja 400. P.s im a brand new rider still havent taking the course yet but planning on it soon.

  • @inkanthem
    @inkanthem 8 месяцев назад

    Did he say if both flew by he wouldn't know the difference? That I4 sound trumps the twin sound but that's just me lol

  • @msdunkel
    @msdunkel Год назад

    Why the hell did you put the ninja on the left and 4rr on the right but have it backwards on the white board?

  • @David-bf6pl
    @David-bf6pl 5 месяцев назад

    Why do you recommend a non-abs model for the track?

  • @808Affliction
    @808Affliction Год назад +1

    You should do a 4rr vs 636 😂

  • @quadkidd
    @quadkidd Год назад

    "If they both wizzed by...."
    Yeah, Mr. YN doesn't Love Kawi like we do XD

  • @rodmaiquez726
    @rodmaiquez726 Год назад

    What's your height Yammie? pretty curious before buying the zx4rr since it is out of stock in any shop near me, would like to know

  • @ricklorimer9984
    @ricklorimer9984 10 месяцев назад

    The ZX4RRR.RR,R is the bet 250 on the market. The 400 is a great little bike.