Mace Windu's Secret WEAPON Against The Sith EXPLAINED!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Unleash the Jedi within you as we unravel the enigma of Mace Windu's secret weapon against the Sith - the lightsaber form Vaapad! Brace yourselves, you're about to plunge into a thorough examination of how Mace used this Jedi technique to stand toe-to-toe with the dark lord of the Sith. Packed with intriguing Star Wars lore and drawing on both Disney and Legends information, this video will leave you questioning what you thought you knew about the Force and the dark side! Get ready for an epic dive. Let's discover the art of Vaapad together!
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I can't remember where I heard it, but the way the story goes, Jackson refused to take the role of the character unless he had two things. One, a unique lightsabre colour, and two, an awesome and memorable death 😊
Aha that tracks with what I’ve heard to! -Thom
I think it was in one of the bonus features/behind the scenes from the old DVDs, 2007 editions I think
I believe his exact words were he would only do it if his character "didn't go out like a punk" 😂 another interesting tid bit, when we say Mace is a bad mofo, thats not us thats Mace himself, rumour has it that "bad mother fucker" was inscribed onto his lightsaber prop 😂 Liam
There is only one sith I know that could overcome Vapaad and what technique he would use. However I won't say it here as to not spoil it if he is in your part II. Also George Lucas confirmed Sidious lost. Episode 3 was his movie so as far as old canon is concerned Mace beat him period he did not throw the fight. Maybe Disney might change that.
I'm curious on your prediction! - Thom
@@TheFandomeClips Only hint I will give is that his lightsaber dueling skills are very technical. However that is not the reason he would beat Vapaad. That's all I will say.
@@paragon1172000Dooku?
Haha nice! We managed to think of 3 with a 4th honourable mention. I think we're on the same page though buddy with your one choice! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips There are other that I think could so it will be interesting to see the others you will mention. Star Wars vs battles are always fun to analyze and speculate.
I personally think it was partly due to Shatterpoint too. People tend to think that SP is only able to find people and places that can alter fate, but im 99% sure that it was originally written differently. From what I remember, SP can actually show you specific weak points on an enemy when you're battling them.
Another thing to consider is that the fall outside of that window wouldn't have necessarily been lethal given the building that the Chancellor's office is located in, the Republic Executive Building.
I'm sure Disney is aware of that Randy 😉😉 That Mace Windu stand alone show is as good as SLJ just needing the contract put in front of him and signing 😂😂 thanks for watching!
When I was a kid I had always thought that the way the film presented the fight it did make it look like sidious threw the fight. Despite that I have always preferred to think Mace won fair and square and I’m happy to see it explained so well. Great video.
Thanks Casey! It's potentially a bit of both! But Sidious certainly wasn't punking Mace that's for sure! Thanks for watching! Liam
these are amazing, i love it. can we do a what if mace had a secret apprentice, who also has to channel their own darkside
I'd never know about that. Nice video.
Thanks Rodrigo!
Possible small correction I could be wrong but I think Palestine’s hate and anger being used against him through vaapad was a one time thing.I believe normally it wouldn’t do this but this happened in this case because of maces strong emotions and motivations in the fight, because of the love he had for the republic and because of the anger he had for Sidious because he crippled it.I could be wrong I’m rusty on my legends I’ll admit but this is just my 2 cents amazing video as always!Really love this channel only downside of it is the gap between videos which is worth it because they are extremely high quality especially considering the size of the channel you deserve far more subs my friend.
Edit 9:48 are you talking about dooku?Cause if so I’ve always thought the same.
Aha thanks for the kind words!
I personally can't fully remember these days It feels like the lore has all been mixed up in my mind!
And in regards to 9:48.... possibly! :p
-Thom
Your half on the money kit kats! When Mace fought Palpatine that was the FIRST time he utilised the loop, which makes his victory even more impressive when you consider he beat the most powerful Sith ever on essentially a test flight.
Mace had never needed to create the superconducting before this as he'd always had the edge over darksiders he fought and often overpowered them before charging up......that or he was fighting a sith that could nullify the loop (hint hint)
Thanks for watching kit kats and thanks for the kind words! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips That sounds right in the rots novel the loop is talked about of course just not explained super much.Also your right about legends lore it is quite contradicting to canon and itself sometimes but still very interesting nonetheless.
Vapad is basically a continuous positive feedback loop that is fed by the dark side user and reflected back from the Vapad user back towards the dark side user.
Dooku would’ve been the only Sith to possibly beat for Vapad/Mace in a lightsaber duel because he didn’t use his anger and hatred except when needing it for a specific dark side power and he knows of Windus powers so he wouldn’t use any dark side abilities against Windu and is a better duelist most of the time than Windu.
At some point Lucas allegedly said that Palpy was throwing the fight, or at least was waiting for Anakin to show up.
That may have well been what he intended, but that’s neither what it looks like nor canonically likely. I agree that (mastered) Vaapaad is enough of an advantage to give Mace the win by default-this is exactly what it was made for. Given Sheev’s distaste for lightsaber combat and that the field is an enclosed space (ie, the Senate can’t throw the senate at his adversary this time), all Palpatine could really do is hold on until Anakin shows up and does something impulsive.
Either way, Kit Fisto got done dirty. Big F
The other Jedi definitely should’ve lasted longer it’s my biggest and one of my only gripes with Revenge of the Sith
Kit Fisto being dunked on was criminal 😂😂
The Senate Throws the senate 😂 brilliant warlord! I've always held the belief that Palps was straight up overcome and the whole feigning weakness and throwing the fight element was AFTER he knew it was hopeless, not a pre planned tactic.
Thanks for stopping in! We need to get you a regulars membership your here for every one of videos! Liam
@@11bluekitkatsthere's actually a theory that Kit Fisto purposefully threw himself onto Palpatines lightsaber to buy Mace some time and that the few strikes he does block are actually kill shots at Mace. Doesn't look that way in the slightest but would certainly redeem poor kits death a little! Liam
@@TheFandomeClipsThat theory does make Kits death better and it gives it some actual meaning but you were right on the money when you said it doesn’t look that way in the slightest 😂.
I forget that Mace is SLJ because he doesn't say muthafucka.
Haha not his most intense role thats for sure 😂 believe it or not though, The words bad mother fucka are inscribed onto his lightsaber in the movie 😂 Liam
@@TheFandomeClips I read that somewhere. Makes sense! Love your channel, keep up the fantastic work! Happy 4th! God Bless you, your family, and America!
Not out loud, but I think he *_*definitely*_* says it with his eyes :)
so basically qui gon better for child/teenage anakin, mace absolutely perfect for young adult anakin.
I don't get how you can pretend Rey's killing of Palpatine is any less of an ass pull then Windu doing it when its not as if either movie text support one over the other.....
Windu is a fully trained Jedi master with many years of training and the accolade of been one of the greatest swordsman in the history of the jedi order. He might be the underdog but it still stands to reason he is capable of toe to toeing with Palps and coming out the winner, even without Vapaad. You can infer from his position in the order that he's very powerful and has the years of training under his belt. It doesn't need to be stated outright.
Rey is inexperienced, barely trained and is working from second hand knowledge from someone who also never completed their training in Leia. It doesn't make sense she can toe to toe with Palps in any regard, she's still finding her feet as a Jedi 😂 its just bad writing
The person who truly defeated Palpatine is and always will be Luke Skywalker in ROTJ. By refusing to fight he denied Palpatine the very thing he wanted and allowed his father to fulfill his role as the chosen one.
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If that's the case obi wan clears
Mace did fear Obi Wan in legends! Thanks for watching! Liam
He didn’t beat him.
Erm...........he did, he had Palps at his mercy and would have killed him without the last minute save by Anakin 😂 Mace won fair and square, no amount of fan theory "Palps lost on purpose to turn Anakin" will convince me otherwise 😂 he'd lost before Anakin showed up. thanks for watching A.D Clarke! Liam
It's because the attacks and vpod is not precise again this goes back to understand one power and Mace Windus power is hard to understand 🤦 the way your making it sound as if it is hard to understand 😔
With all due respect some people don't understand how Maces form works. We made this video as a part 1 so that when we talk Sith who can overcome the Vapaad in P2 we're all singing from the same songbook and people understand why these Sith can neutralise the looping element to the form! Liam
Mace windu has an ability called vpod and shatterpoint when combined the longer the battle goes the more the enemies weak spots become visible that's why Mace was able to beat palpatine so easily 🤦 when you understand a jedi's power you will know the why and how Mace Windus power is not hard to understand when they literally tell you how he sees from his advantage Mace Windu sees everything in a broken state in that broken state it shows weak points in ones defense and I haven't even watched the story yet I like to commit on shit that is already known but clearly not known 🤦