FBO 435i VS STOCK M4 - Side by side comparison. Is it a baby M4??
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Comment what do you guys think about the FBO 435i Msport next to a stock m4? Are they similar?
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11:37 for some racing ;)
he really tried to go faster by moving his neck each time
😭
Did it like every time hahahaha. Kid brain
😂😂😂😂😂
Looks like he’s young enough to have gotten his license not long ago, so he’ll learn. Until then, he’ll just look like a bobble head each time he races someone 😂
Nice comparison! Looking forward to what you do with the M4. Subscribed
Channing Way thank you!
Dude sick!! Love to see it!
You’re gonna be gapping 435s left and right once your m4 is fbo!
Awesome video!
Have to feature the new blue beast on my channel someday!
Thanks!! I was honestly shocked when we got the results. But yea I’m super stocked to get the M4 FBO and tuned!
I’ll be more than happy to bring the M4 on your channel!
Great video guys. I was looking for this specific race.🙌🙌🙌 435iX is a beast but the M4 is the one🔥
Glad to provide the race to you! It was a very interesting result
Excellent job on the vid. I enjoyed watching!
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching! 😊
That was surprising. I thought it would be equal. Cool to see 💪
Right! I thought so too. Glad you liked the video!
Great video man made me feel good about my 435i with all the goodies I've added. Stage 2 bootmod, intercooler, catless downpipe, Sport springs etc.
There are crazy cars with that kind of set up! I loved mine too. Glad you enjoyed the video
Great job on this video. Nice and entertaining
Thank you very much!
I have fbo 435 xdrive too, and it was same story as on a video when I ran bm3 93 stage2 ots map. When I flashed it with stage2 e30 I was neck to neck with stock m4 and definitely faster in a quarter mile race. But when I upgraded my hpfp and order custom tune to run e50, my car showed on dyno 430 all wheel horsepower on a stock turbo vs m4's stock 379 rear wheel horsepower. Hpfp upgrade is a must for ewg n55. There is a video in youtube where 335 f30 with upgraded hpfp with full e85 tune stock turbo no meth beat m4 stage1
Valeriy Syutkin that’s awesome! The hpfp is a huge difference with the n55’s. It will help get you in those big 400’s. The 435 owner in my video plans on upgrading his turbo and that will really awaken his n55. This video was a good example of just the basic bolt ons for a stage 2 tune and how they perform against the stock m4
Enjoyed the video! Would be nice to see a video comparing the 2 again but in the canyon or track. Can possibly be 435 with upgraded suspension versus the m4 stock suspension and see how they handle in comparison!
Thanks! And yes I would love to make a video like that happen. I will work on getting more videos comparing to a 435
@@AutomotiveTherapy Awesome! Can’t wait to see your M4 with FBO and a flash time. Just make sure you take care of the crank hub and rod bearings first! 💪🏻
Yes sir that’s the next project for the m4!
good video! keep it up
Brennan Brooks Official thank you!!
I have a FBO 435 with IPE catless downpipe, AK exhaust, Wagner charge boost pipe, CSF intercooler, B16 suspension, eventuri intake with Stage 2 map and speed limiter unlocked.
It is easy to hit the bottom of the speedometer.
The ZF8 isn't faster at shifting than the DCT. It is, however, much smoother and still pretty quick. I prefer the violent downshifts and tight manual-like lockup of the DCT.
Agree with this plus, for launch control is better for street use. With a torque converter you can hold before a launch, some dct cars can hold that launch for too long or the car shits it down because it actually has to engage a clutch
Amazing technique onthe downshifts and upshifts also....
**JUST FYI** I am working on a video just like this one but with a N55 upgraded turbo set up. Definitely worth sticking around for!
We wanna see this! Rematch time!!
Nice video! Off the line the M will be slower cuz it fights with traction a lot more. But Dustin needs to get rid of those wheels, killing the look of the 435.
Yea it’s not a good car for off the line racing. But when it’s rolling it will haul ass! And yea not the biggest fan of the wheel set up either
What carbon trunk is that and how’s the fitment?
I have a 435i xdrive n55 and you can hit red line but you have to have it in sports plus not just sports.I found that out sadly by being use to the auto shift and not paying attention and hit the red line.
I did notice you have the same issue I have with the M4 from a dig. Currently on Pilot Sport AS3s so I have to launch it in MDM while in Mexico lol. Traction control keeps kicking in until mid 3rd then it pulls like a jets behind it. Put both on pilot sport 4s on a track with launch control and I think see a flip flop of those results. Love this video though. Subbed
Yea the more I talk about it the more I hear about these weird things with the launch control! I need more practice and better tires I’m still running on continentals. But hey my man!!! I appreciate the sub you won’t be disappointed with the upcoming videos :)
@@AutomotiveTherapy absolutely. I need better tires too. The only time I’ve seen launch control work well is on a prepped track in 90 degrees with cup 2s LOL. I was playing around with some of my N54/55 friends last week from a dig and it’s embarrassing lol. They have 2-3 cars on me by 3rd gear but then I’m like instantly 10mph faster than them and running them down. Taking TC off completely it’s even worse lol.
Just a heads up - the M car will not will not let you blow the engine( that was also the case in my 325) . It actually back off on the power - auto prevention how cool! - have done it a couple of times :) - that's in stock not sure about once you do add ons. Maybe some feedback from the audience - keen to know.
SNAPPI appreciate the feedback! I was told that it will rev until you shift in the m car, I guess it makes sense for a safety part to have a in a modern bmw
It’s called Rev Limiter
What map was he running? It should have been closer than that if he was running MHD. M4 is only 425 bhp.
When I had my 2014 m235i, stage 2 catless downpipes. Dynos like 390whp/440wtq. Stock m4s are like 420Ish whp and similar torque.. n55
are not gonna compete against s55, in every aspect such as cooling. The n55 single turbo does sound great though.
Good points! They are very hard engines to compare because the S55 has a lot more advantage
Where did he get the carbon trunk?
My guy in the 435 was shifting high. Try shifting at 5,200 RPM. N55 loses power over anything higher. Also, a transmission tune would be great!
My best times on my 435i
0-30 1.72
0-60 4.48s
1/8 8.23
1/4 12.74
Dinan stage 1 tune
Dinan Intercooler
Dinan exhaust
Dinan intake
VRSF catted downpipe
xDrive? I'm on RWD. MHD stage2+ E20 map dp and do88 intercooler struggling with grip, have Michelin pilot sport 4 275 in the rear.
Sheeeesh. I thought the 435 would be closer to a stock M4. I’m going to do a comparison on my DP/intake/charge pipes M4 to a friends FBO 340. He swears it’s the fastest thing on earth and will drag me. It’s stupid fast for a stock turbo car but we’ll see lol. Either way, it’s way more to the M4 than straight line speed. Can’t go back to a non M.
I thought so too! When I had my FBO 435 I thought I was an m4 haha but I guess it takes more than that to catch up with these stock M cars. I’d be very curious to see how your comparison goes! That B58 has its own type of power and ways of being a sleeper!
@@AutomotiveTherapy yeah I thought my FBO n54 335 was just as fast too lol. The M4 with the DCT just bills so aggressively if you have traction. That B58 is weird though. The dyno numbers don’t really explain why they are so quick. Maybe the peak tq hits just low enough in the revs to get it out there moving. I haven’t come across a FBO one in the wild yet but I want to set up a video with my boys FBO 340, thic’s Supra, and my other friend’s M4 that has a little more meat than me. He can run with TC off. Should be cool.
Most likely BMW is putting the 8 speed in the new M3/M4 because it's cheaper from a manufacturing standpoint when your entire platform uses the same components. And the ZF8 is good enough to meet all their performance criteria.
Great way of putting it. That would make sense!
Would be nice to see what the price difference is too, 435+mods=$? vs oem M4 $
Sounds like a part 2 video needs to be filmed!
My re-mapped 435d pulls on a M4 from any speed
How different would you say the steering feel is bro? Im getting a new car later this year in the fall and am coming from an e90. Im really considering a m235i but I also like the 435i M sport. I know the m235i steering is tuned by bmw M
I owned 2 e90’s before my 435 and M4, and I must say there is a big difference in steering feel between the generations. I’ve never driven an m235i so I can’t say much on those, but I remember my 435 having loose steering but it was noticeably stiffer when I put the car in sport mode. In that mode it made it feel heavier and slightly more connected. At the end of the day nothing will feel as connected as the power steering in the e90. I hope that helps! Also stay tuned I just filmed a sweet 435 built yesterday that I will be posting in the next couple of days 😊
@@AutomotiveTherapy Thanks for the reply bro! I worded my question weird lol i know the steering is light compared to an e90 cus i had an f30 328i before my e90. My question was if the 435i steering is much lighter than the m4 steering? I drove my friends f80 m3 the other day and loved it, theyre amazing cars
The 435 steering is definitely not as heavy as the M4 because the M4 has actual steering wheel adjustment buttons, while the 435 you only get one setting.
@@AutomotiveTherapy I gotcha. I might just go with the m235i/m240i cus I feel like it’s the closest you can get to an M without having an actual M
@@tommyalonso9453 I would have to agree on that! That seems to me what a lot of people recommend. Good luck with your purchase 🤙
The rear bumper of m4 fit to install to f32?
Not it is wider than the 435 bumper
So 435i is missing XHP Stage 3 trans tune and some aftermarket lightweight racing wheels .
Then you will only lose by a car length or so. Been there done that in my FBO xdrive 435i gc. M4's are also underrated as well.
biggest thing people dont understand that dont own an m4 is that its not about the power gain, its nice but all the money you pay goes into supporting mods when I hooned my 335 up to 160ish it could not get enough air and fans would be on full blast but ive taken the m4 to 180+ and taken it right off the freeway and pulled into my garage and its SILENT
Tickle Me Pink that’s why I love the comment section, you guys bring up factors that I forget to mention! But this is totally true, I’ve noticed that my fans don’t even stay on for 1min after I shut it off after some spirited driving. My old 435 struggled hard for their. Cooling systems are HUGE factors
Was he brake boosting ?
I wonder how the 440i (b58) compares to the 435i
Probably a beast compared to a 435i
440i will put gaps on a 435i every time
My FBO 440i b58 vs fbo m4 was a close race don’t know how this happened
I agree. Don't think he's running MHD, looked slow getting pulled by 425 bhp like that.
440mppsk is lightyears ahead 😭 b58 ftw. Pure turbos DP tune chargepipe, whole nother game 💪🏾🤟🏽
B58 is weaker than S55,
S55 is fully forged + better injectors and other shit so it can handle way more power than b58.
Btw B58 has very weak pistons
Inlets and outlets on the 435 would benefit it
Without a doubt! 😊
The wheels on 435 is bit huge
Agreed
435 needs a driver mod bad
Why does it seem like the 435i is in auto and not paddle
Also noticed it put In sport mode and not spots plus
Would m4 headlights fit on a 435i?
Abid Nezamuddin I would assume so 🤔 I am not 100% sure on that
That poor 435i needs a driver mod BAD!!! Did you see him shifting at like 5k rpm lmao
13:42 is a better shift example. He definitely should have shifted better on the other runs, completely agree
Is it me, or does that 435 look a little bit....."tame" for a FBO car? I've seen video's of guys with just Bootmod3 Stage 1 or 2 cars pull as hard, or harder than this one did? Even in runs by himself, where the M4 wasn't in the picture, the pulls between gears seemed kinda looooong and lazy?
Not close, M4 better...but entertaining video
Its that whistle hanging from his mirror thats robbing him of HP
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Mans musta had a boost leak or something 💀
I had a fbo 435xi and a 600hp gtr pulled on me less that your m4 was pulling on him.
As for the launch control your trans was probly too hot
Bruh you guys and everyone else making these videos calling them fbo are killing me. Fbo is charge pipe ,inlet,outlet,downpipe,intake, exhaust and tune lmao
i thought fbo meant using liquid molli oil
The 8-speed can handle more power than the dct.
My dude looking like jack harlow
stock turbo n55 can hit 480 whp. its been done
Correct, The N55 has alot more potential than they give it credit for.
How
@@ksmgaming9146 in a way you don’t want to ever journey down. Port injection full e85
You keep saying 'the M4 has more torque' - you couldn't be more wrong lol
What's all that stuff hanging from the rear view 🤣🤔
Haha what do you mean?
pega uma 435i e modifica que nem uma moça ta loco. mete uma turbina e mete pressão nesse n55 meu guriiii
Please replace those wheels from the 435. 🤮
If BMW had put the N54 in that 435, it would be a much closer race.
This is true. I raced a FBO n54 while I was stock and they kept up better. The N55 needs bigger custom tuning and most likely an upgraded turbo to perform against an M4
Does this kid in the 435 know how to shift
Rocco Commisso 13:42 he had a better shift. We realized he didn’t get the best shifts in some runs
I have the same car fbo bm3 stage 1 and it beats m3 m4 stock that’s why I was so confused lmaoooo
Tell your buddy to get the xhp transmission tune he’ll smoke u even more lol
End of the video he beats me off the line from a stand still! But yea I also had the same car and it gave M cars a hard time. I for sure know that the M4 will eventually pull on a tuned n55
Rocco Commisso haha I’ll let him know. He is getting a big turbo kit soon. You’ll have to subscribe and watch more n55 vs M cars!
Lmao his head movements and he’s slow because those big ass wheels
hp on that 435i
GaLa - based off similar set ups we’ve seen a popular 400hp number
@@AutomotiveTherapy oh wow that pulls cant wait for my 440i hopefully be gapping some m4s too lol
You won’t be disappointed! Go FBO and tune it and you’ll be extremely satisfied with it. Also you have the B58 motor so you are already quicker than a 435i stock. You’ll give M4’s a hard time for sure!
no matter how much you mod your 435 it will never be a true M.
That’s why I sold my 435i and got the M4 🤣
@@AutomotiveTherapy great video
I appreciate that!
Hello Hunter plenty of more bmw content coming btw!
motorsport has no rival , selling my 435i that i really love
Redlining won’t blow your motor lol
Big wheels lol 435x drive normal 18inch tires will perform much better than whatever tire setup is on the 435; plus looks awful. Get M rims bro and try it again
That 435’s rims are hideous🤢 and that tow hook is just a NO…
He said he will sell you those wheels bro!
Why the 435 have a M4 grill😂
There is NO way that 435i is modded
No comp
Don’t need a comp
FBo just means full bolt on not fully built hahaha. Just fbo and a tune would smoke an m4
I owned a FBO Tuned 435XI and I could not smoke M4’s. I now own an M4 and wanted to do the same comparison and it turned out to have the same results. It takes an upgraded turbo 435 to beat a stock M4
i just raced this stock F80 M4 vs 435i FBO (POV Car) ruclips.net/video/Ct_0dg_DXSg/видео.html
I am also X-Drive Gran Coupe so 400LBs heavier than M4. I would gap your buddy's 435i. Just sayin
kid shifted at 5k rpm lmaoooo learn to drive
Is that a hickey
Eh the 440i is better and sounds way better than the M4
i agree. The m4 doesn’t sound as good as the n55/b58 but I should make this same video with a 440i
@@AutomotiveTherapy Get the equal length exhaust or midpipe. Game changer in terms of s55 sound, ends up like a mix of GTR and n55
I have vrsf midpipes being installed this week! They aren’t equal length but they will sure help open it up and make it more aggressive paired with my catless downpipes
“Baby M4” is rubbish...you either have a M car or you don’t.
True. That’s why I sold my 435 and bought an M4
@@AutomotiveTherapy Nice! As you know you can modify a 335i or 435i all day, but a M car is a whole different car even when stock.
Yes it’s a huge difference. There is a reason why it’s separated from the normal series. They are drastically different even as stock. Modified M cars are just insane power!
@@AutomotiveTherapy Yes they are, and you can get some serious power with just downpipes and a tune. The S55 can handle a little over 615 WHP on stock internals. Im curious on the new G8X tuning potential...Nice vid by the way.
Yes that’s for sure!! It’s tons of fun. And me too I’m excited to see how the s58 will line up against the s55. But thank you, I appreciate you watching!
So you fail to mention the entire video the absolute significance of the 435i being an XDRIVE.
M4 3600LBs. 435xi - 3775lbs. You have a 175lb weight advantage Mr. Therapy? Racing a car with about the same HP/TQ numbers. Your going to win in a roll race every time. Its basic science. No need for 16 min video showing the obvious.
As a modified Xdrive owner myself. With working launch control. I would murder a stock M4 in the 1/8th mile. Probably 1/4 mile as well. Just sayin.
I used to own a fbo 435xi and just thought it would be a fun video to compare with my new m4. That would have been a great point to mention, none of us thought about that! I should put together a part 2 with more info and racing videos. Thanks for your comment 🙌
I used to take my 435 to the drag strip and would beat M4’s off the line with my x drive but after about 2-3rd gear the m4 would pull. They are very close cars from a FBO vs stock comparison
3:07 I also mention the xdrive in his 435
someone’s mad he’s still got a 435
Bro let’s compare my b58 440i vs your m4 that’s a better comparison!! No disrespect to the n55 community lol
435i driver was short shifting
Watch at 13:42 he was properly shifting
stonk m4
M4 Stonk
Auto 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Agreed haha. Manuals are a bitch to find with the 435XI’s though :(
Simply tune the m4 it will dog walk the 435 just being honest
i like that color on the m4 debating on getting an m4 or a m3 e92 their both about equal in hp
Stock M4 is wayyy quicker than a stock e92 m3. The torque and turbos are a big factor in that