This video is the best one I found that sums up if you’re thinking of getting an AP. This dude is absolutely correct. Such a fun car stock with just a simple stage 1 tune.. helps rev hang, pulls all the way to redline and just a better overall daily driver. The way it should have been from the factory.
just flashed my 21 wrx a week ago, and its a completely different car. makes me wonder what regulations subaru has to tune their cars for stock. it feels 100% better and I would reccomend it to everyone.
@@GunslingerOfficial at the time of comment I flashed with the Cobb OTS Stage 1. I eventually bought the Cobb intake and flashed the Stage 1+ With cobb intake map. I live at the same elevation as Austin TX so the OTS maps have been running strong for these 7 months.
@@GunslingerOfficial I reccomend running the 91 Octane maps as they will be more reliable fromnthe research ive done. Ive always ran 91 octane tunes with 93 in the tank and i have only ever had 2 instances of turbo knock that wasnt the standard -1.41 or -2.81 readings you can get sometime. I still reccomend getting a pro tune eventually even with no mods and power delivery and reliability will be increased, even though the OTS maps might run great for awhile. I Plan on getting a protune in 3-4 months.
I disagree. Lots of these people recommend disabling hill assist because it helps the car “drive better” or that it makes shifting from 1st to 2nd smoother or whatnot. I kept mine on after disabling it for a week and there was literally 0 difference except rolling back. I personally love the hill assist because it disables the minute you get on the gas so idk how some of these people stall unless they decide to release the clutch without giving gas. My hill assist works when I want it to and it isn’t overly sensitive. It holds the car for 3-4 seconds IF you decide to release the brake without giving the car gas when you want to start moving. It’s a great feature on my wrx.
@@Rebirth3362 I could not agree with you more! In my 2017 STI i friggin love that feature. I live in WV basically hills EVERYWHERE and this thing is really nice. Before I would set my e brake like I would in my Semi and release once the gear was partially engaged and pulling.
Same here, the boost spikes are unreal at part throttle and the power dies super hard after 4k. I just got my Cobb AP and geezus is the drive ability night and day! Not only that, the boost comes in smoother and hits hard all the way through to 6k.
@@HI-pi1er Did not realize I commented on this 4 years ago lol but to answer your question, by run better I meant in terms of throttle response, idle and just overall feel of the car. A Cobb stage 1 or 2 91/93 octane off the shelf tune will open up nice power restricted from factory without hurting your motor, these tunes from Cobb are calibrated pretty safe but stay on top of basic maintenance, oil changes, fresh plugs, etc. a tuned car requires a little more TLC. Once you start getting into custom tunes for different fuels, bigger turbos, upgraded fuel management, etc. your walking on the wild side and it will be up to the tuner to keep the motor running within safe parameters.
@@Giuzepp8_5 thanks for your reply . I just want a stage 1 with tune/dyno and cold air intake so the engine and turbo can breath better . Just Abit worried about engine with the extra stress .
@@HI-pi1er The wrx motor can handle the power increase from a stage 1 tune safely. You will get the same amount of mileage out of the car as if kept stock, that also depends on how you drive and maintenance. If you have access to a reputable tuner with a dyno, this is the best route with or without the cold air intake. Otherwise I would go with Cobb stage1+ package since the stage1+ tune is dialed in for their intake system out of the box or the cobb stage 1 off the shelf tune with OEM air box and filter.
Spot on video, I've been thinking for a sometime to get an accessport for my 2016 wrx, mine is stock and I'm planning to keep it that way, but the reve hang and also the lost of boost after getting to 4k rpm it drives me crazy.
I bought a used WRX and asked the dealership if they could tell if there was a tune on it from the previous owner, and they said they would have to send some ECU codes to Subaru and then wait to get them back, so it's not something they do. If all your internals are stock I don't think Subaru would see any reason to check your ECU to see if the car was flashed. Basically, Subaru will not plug anything in to determine if your car is tuned, and the only reason they would do that is if they see all the bolt-ons you have before voiding your warranty.
I don’t know if you still have the problem with hill assist but you can turn it off completely you have to hold it down until the inductor shows up and then release and hold for 5 seconds there’s a couple vids but when I hold clutch I roll back
@@ninbri64 That's definitely not typical results. You may want to look into what else might be needing done there. The vast majority of users of both say the MAP tune is much better, especially in regards to knock.
The crazy part is the stock tune lean out the car around 4,500-5,000 rpm Which sucks because now not only is you’re engine getting heat soaked but the stock tune is leaning you’re engine. Causing you’re car to just run slow.
Not only that but leaning out while revving high is not good at all for your motor. It’s better to be rich than lean. Although obviously to rich is a big problem as well.
james PrO yes. You can download from the MA Performance website. It’s $75 but totally worth it. It’s not a Pro-tune, but it’s the next best thing. I bought my Accessport from them and they give you the tube for free. The most notable difference from the COBB tune is the pull in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear. Very strong moving through them.
I just have a question about my 2021 WRX. When I’m on like 1st or 2nd gear and I’m driving slow the rpm goes down and it starts to jerk and even when I’m shifting to second it always jerks even tho I’m really smooth with the clutch. Also like I gotta give it a lot of gas on the first gear to get going. I wonder if Cobb access-port stage 1 would help with that?
I know these videos were old, having owned a stock wrx, it definitely falls flat around 4.5k and picks back up before redline. While it does take away from the thrills. It still scoots. I think if it pulled that hard all the way, the stock sti would have some trouble lol
Is it worth it for the Cobb stage 1? No. Is the access port worth it for other pro tunes? Yes. I highly recommend BrenTuning in Massachusetts. I couldn’t believe the difference
Shaky cam is bad, nauseating. A stationary camera showing the gauges while driving would have been helpful to see how much better the Rev hang is now too.
Wow nice find on the used Accessport website, kudos! They dont have anymore on the 15+ wrx so hopefully i can look into them once they have more. Yeah, I cant wait to get Cobb with muffler delete as well, and i too dont want to void my warranty either on my 18' sport wrx. Lol ive had the car for 11 months now and only 4k miles on it lol still a baby.
I have a stock 2018 Subaru wrx that I’ve only added an axleback to. Would the Cobb AP hurt the engine/turbo or cause any reliability issues in the future? Very new to car modifications and I’m seeing mixed responses.
right wing conservative stunt bums 77 The correct term for the above is "warranty fraud"...yes, it's both illegal & immoral Basically taking advantage of a policy just because you were stupid enough to break something knowing the consequences. You pay to play, can’t get any more self-explanatory than that.
@@someguy920 bingo, I bought a used WRX and asked the dealership if they could tell if there was a tune on it from the previous owner, and they said they would have to send some ECU codes to Subaru and then wait to get them back, so it's not something they do. If all your internals are stock I don't think Subaru would see any reason to check your ECU to see if the car was flashed.
I put a short ram intake on my 09 subaru without a tune and it made my car run lean and the air fuel mixture was off it was getting to much air to the point it dried my notor of oil and it made it spin a bearing
Simple answer ….. HELL YES . If you wanna do any modifications to a wrx or sti and you don’t have a Cobb AP . Well then have fun running extremely rich and possibly sending a rod to the moon cause you need one . Even for just an intake, doesn’t matter you need it . If you don’t modify you’re car then the choice is all up to you. Even stock I would suggest one because like he said the stock tune is booty cheeks lol. if you push the throttle down halfway it feels like full throttle. it’s just not really drivable from the factory. it’s much much better when it has even an ots tune.
So im planning on doing 8-10k miles on it mayne 5-8k, I'll see how I feel, but ots stage 1 cobb should not harm car? So basically, I should know if the car has any drive/powertrain issues by then I'd guess, so if that's the case, it "shouldn't" be an issue? Ive also experienced its 4.5+k rpm drop off and would like to,be able to still get some acceleration to at least high 5k. Anyone in comments who has this car, can you please offer you're experience and opinion.
The car falls off cuz its set at 22 pounds kf boost atleast the 2018 wrx is and the stock tune makes it hit a major boost cut and wont make the full 22 cuts at like 16-17 area nor.ay on stock tune
Yeah I felt the same after the break-in period. BIG disappointment. I almost got rid of the car because of that. Losing the warranty for some things the car should have had from the factory is a big NO; especially since Subaru already has a few persistent quirks and issues you'll need a warranty for.
last year I leased a 2017 WRX, absolutely love the car but clearly can’t modify the vehicle. I’m trying to decide if when my lease is up in 2020 if I should make a purchase on the next generation, if it does come out.. or purchase my 2017. Residual value is at about 18k, so not bad.. All these vids on access ports and tunes, exhaust, etc..really make me want to tune it and just buy the car, but I also enjoy these low lease payments.. perks of leasing lol
Bob Jones i thought about it but heard that I could get penalties when I go to trade in if they see something has been tampered with. I also figured it would be a waste of money unless I decide to keep it. I wouldn’t be able to do the access port.
I seriously don't understand what you're talking about man. Mine pulls even better right around 4k up til 6k, then it falls off. Im baffled. mines a 15, maybe the 18 tune is different? I dunno. Mine is 100% stock except for an axle back and it pulls just fine at 34k miles.
The 18 is slower up top , I’ve driven a stock 17 and 15 and both have better power up top then the 18 I have , the 18 literally falls on its face after 4 , I’m guessing it’s the stock tune I’m not sure but it seems slower than past years wrx which I was pissed about when I bought the car
andrew alvarez interesting....Id heard they revised the tune for ‘18, but I didn’t think it would be so drastic as to comply change the power curve. That’s a shame/
I bought a brand new 2019 WRX roughly two months ago. I'm not the best with stick shift, but with that being said, I find this car very difficult to drive stock. However, it's very difficult for me to consider tuning the car, even if it improves drivability. I worry about the reliability. This car doesn't have the best reputation in the reliability department, especially when it comes to tuning. I find it hard to believe that Subaru and the folks that actually built the car wouldn't know what tune is best for it. I'm sure other tunes are more fun and free up a bit of power, but at what cost?? I'm looking for something to convince me that an aftermarket tune is worth voiding my warranty for... as I'd like to be able to enjoy driving the car more.
I got a pro tune done by Ron Watson. A pro tune will definitely have the car running healthy, no knock. They monitor everything until the car is running perfectly. Wanting to tune the car and potentially void warranty is of course at your discretion
Mystxry Cobb access port costs $675 but it includes Stage 1-3 maps and you can custom map too. It’s worth it IMO. Plus you can also use the Cobb AP for other tunes as well like from delicious tuning or other tuners
It’s like it’s fighting me , and the best way I can explain it is I feel the rev hang from the engine in the clutch especially first to second it’s very weird to describe but it feels like I can feel the ground in my clutch , does the tune fix this or is this another issue I should see the dealership about
andrew alvarez not sure. The rev hang on stock tune is very bad from 1st to 2nd. The rest was pretty normal. As far as the clutch, i don’t recall having any problems
This is the only way to combat the Rev hang from 1st to 2nd... You literally have to wait until the revs start to drop and THEN release the clutch, otherwise your car will buck and jump all over the place.
Even if you are trying to speed , I did a first to second pull shifted at 6rpms and didn’t dump the clutch but tried to let off quickly and I heard a loud thump and car jerked hard and since then I don’t push the car in first gear it doesn’t seem to like it at all idk if it’s my car or just the stock tune .
andrew alvarez yes this problem is notorious with the 15+ engine. The Rev hang is meant to protect the engine, but if you look at the competition they don't have rev hang and their performance is just as strong, that's the frustrating thing. Like I said though, with the stock tune you have to wait a second until the revs start to drop and then you can get rid of the clutch pretty quickly and drop it into 2nd. Otherwise, it's like riding a mechanical bull 😎
@@tr1ckster726 best respond. this is what I was dealing with today . I just got a 2019 WRX Premium on June second and I am also learning how to drive a manual, I have had automatic all my life. shit is dramatic lol
are the cobb stage 1 tune that comes with the accessport all the same around the world ? i'm in australia thinking of getting one but a lot of ppl have said it's not worth it
I'm in Aus and it's the best thing you can do for you. It makes the car a lot better to drive, just like he explained it in the video. ADM models are included. The tunes are different for different markets. Buy one locally and it will have the right tune for your car already installed on it, and you can download new ones if you need from the COBB website. My 2018 wrx is stock apart from the COBB AP. It drives like a different car, much better. Get one, you won't regret it.
@@Senator315 I got a brand new wrx but scared to put a turn and intake . Not because of warranty just because i want my car to last and have no problems . What’s your take on this ?
@@HI-pi1er Had it running on mine now for 4 years. No issues. I put an intake on, it lasted 1 day before I took it off and sold it. It was way too loud. I was embarrassed to drive it. If you want attention, you will get it, good and bad. Plus you will need a custom tune unless you use the COBB intake, then you can use the OTS tune. If your worried, you can get a custom tune added to the COBB AP. Best way to go. The OTS maps aren't bad, but a custom tune for your car is better. Find someone with an intake so you can hear it before you buy one so you know what you're getting yourself into.
I bought a used 2017, ets intake, axle back exhaust. If the previous owner had an accessport would those stage 1 maps stay on car until Subaru or Accessport reflashes ecu to stock? My car has great power once turbo is spooled, until then it’s a Subaru. Crushes in snow though.
Do you have to unplug the Cobb ap when you turn car off? I seen a video that when you first get it and set it up it recommends hooking up battery charger, so my question is do you have to unplug it every time you turn car off or does it not effect Battery when plugged it after initial setup?
I notice the same thing on my stock 08 6mt liberty gt spec b...bit underwhelming :( It’s completely stock. Maybe I’ll get one of these access ports.. do you need a 3” exhaust or cai for a performance tune?
Does the tune sacrifice any reliability and or their any major cons to look out for. I bought a 2016 wrx like 4 months ago with 57,000 mileage on it and it’s my daily for college and work. Would appreciate a answer
I agree with everything you say, mine only has about 3000km on it so still quite new but yeah after around 5k rpm the engine power just feels limited. I had a mazda 3 MPS before this and that thing felt way more aggressive in the higher rpms. I wanna go stage 1 but weary about warranty voiding...🤔
Sergi Rodas do you think it’s better to just get a pro tune? I have a 19 with only 16k miles on it. Don’t really wanna void the warranty but I’m so tired of the rev hang. You seem like me though. I don’t drive the car very hard at all. thanks!
TheMetalGuy852 like a scratchy feeling when I clutch in above 4rpms , almost in every gear but not as noticeable in high gears but it’s bad from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd
TheMetalGuy852 car has just under 2,000 miles and I thought I just had to break it in but it’s still doing it and idk if it’s because of the rev hang because i can feel the rev hang in the clutch also , dealership keeps saying it’s normal but I’m going to ask and see if the tech can drive another 18wrx and compare because this doesn’t seem normal ,
Idk man I just got the access port and it’s stage 1 tuned Some of the pros are that the rev hang is a lot better from 1st to second and the power band is very linear to redline but the stock tune felt a lot faster idk it feels so slow with the Cobb stage one tune
Sergi Rodas I’m 18 and I currently do doordash but I put hella miles on my Truck and get 11mpg. School isn’t out of the picture but it’s far out there. Do you think ford is a good place to go?
Just got a 2018 a few months ago the thing is awesome to drive every day!! I also have a 2010 WRX that I have beat the crap out of for 7 years driving it 300 miles a week for work . My main question would be for the 2018 if this stage 1 tune gives you a faster 0 to 60 or 0 to 80 I cant seem to find very much info on that with the car being stock no intake or exhaust
No Use For A Name I should have mentioned that I only get a 0-60 time below 5 seconds when I use launch control. I do a little better when I’m below a 1/4 tank of gas. Otherwise it’s usually 5 - 5.1 0-60. I’m not on a mission to destroy my clutch so I really don’t launch it. But I like knowing I can make this bastard move when it needs to.
What is your average boost on daily driving? I'm finding my boost is lower then average, I'm averaging 6-10 psi on 40-60% acceleration.. I barely touched 15 psi when I practically floored it. Does this mean something is wrong with my tune? 2019 subaru wrx
Prdgy.Media are you running on stage 1 tune? Just got my AP too and just found out there is a normal, low, and high wastegate tune you can download on the cobb website. Play around with it and it will probably change how your car feels
My hill assist works great for normal driving. As soon as I release a little pressure off the clutch pedal the brakes release. The brakes release well before the clutch begins to grab. For my normal daily driving I’m convinced it’s extending my clutch life.
Got a 07 Hawkeye today came with one of these, vf43 turbo, 3 inch invidia exhaust system, and a Cobb intake. All for 10,000$ I had an insurance claim so I only paid 2,000$. He said it gets to 90 MPH in 3rd gear... I'm not too sure how to work this port.. but I'm sure if he was driving it before me the settings should be proper? Do you have to mess with this thing alot??? Or only when u want to increase boost ect?
This video is the best one I found that sums up if you’re thinking of getting an AP. This dude is absolutely correct. Such a fun car stock with just a simple stage 1 tune.. helps rev hang, pulls all the way to redline and just a better overall daily driver. The way it should have been from the factory.
just flashed my 21 wrx a week ago, and its a completely different car. makes me wonder what regulations subaru has to tune their cars for stock. it feels 100% better and I would reccomend it to everyone.
@@phwn when you say reflashed, using a cobbAP or a pro tune? what map did you put on it?
@@GunslingerOfficial at the time of comment I flashed with the Cobb OTS Stage 1. I eventually bought the Cobb intake and flashed the Stage 1+ With cobb intake map. I live at the same elevation as Austin TX so the OTS maps have been running strong for these 7 months.
@@phwn thanks mate. I'm thinking of doing stage 1 only no intake, will see how I go
@@GunslingerOfficial I reccomend running the 91 Octane maps as they will be more reliable fromnthe research ive done. Ive always ran 91 octane tunes with 93 in the tank and i have only ever had 2 instances of turbo knock that wasnt the standard -1.41 or -2.81 readings you can get sometime. I still reccomend getting a pro tune eventually even with no mods and power delivery and reliability will be increased, even though the OTS maps might run great for awhile. I Plan on getting a protune in 3-4 months.
You can disable hill assist, directions are in the user manual. I recommend it.
I disagree. Lots of these people recommend disabling hill assist because it helps the car “drive better” or that it makes shifting from 1st to 2nd smoother or whatnot. I kept mine on after disabling it for a week and there was literally 0 difference except rolling back. I personally love the hill assist because it disables the minute you get on the gas so idk how some of these people stall unless they decide to release the clutch without giving gas. My hill assist works when I want it to and it isn’t overly sensitive. It holds the car for 3-4 seconds IF you decide to release the brake without giving the car gas when you want to start moving. It’s a great feature on my wrx.
Hill assist protects the throw out bearing.
@@Rebirth3362 I could not agree with you more! In my 2017 STI i friggin love that feature. I live in WV basically hills EVERYWHERE and this thing is really nice. Before I would set my e brake like I would in my Semi and release once the gear was partially engaged and pulling.
Dude, I thought it was just me. When I got my WRX 5 days ago it made me feel like I didn't know how to drive stick.
Same here, the boost spikes are unreal at part throttle and the power dies super hard after 4k. I just got my Cobb AP and geezus is the drive ability night and day! Not only that, the boost comes in smoother and hits hard all the way through to 6k.
@@pgrcadventures1414 Dude that's awesome to hear. I want to get a Cobb unit so badly but I can't afford even a used one.
@@cowbatboots282 you cant save up for a couple weeks
@@cowbatboots282 600 shouldn't be am issue if you can afford the car period.
Yeah you really gotta wait a second for the revs to drop and don't let off the clutch too fast.
I also only have the Nameless axle back.. this answered all of my questions, thank you!!
wait do I need a stage 2 if I have over 5 decals?
Yes. Cobb and the tuners out there using the accessport put together great maps, regardless of the power gains your car will run better than stock.
Run better u mean just as in term of quickness ? What about the engine will it be ok
@@HI-pi1er Did not realize I commented on this 4 years ago lol but to answer your question, by run better I meant in terms of throttle response, idle and just overall feel of the car. A Cobb stage 1 or 2 91/93 octane off the shelf tune will open up nice power restricted from factory without hurting your motor, these tunes from Cobb are calibrated pretty safe but stay on top of basic maintenance, oil changes, fresh plugs, etc. a tuned car requires a little more TLC. Once you start getting into custom tunes for different fuels, bigger turbos, upgraded fuel management, etc. your walking on the wild side and it will be up to the tuner to keep the motor running within safe parameters.
@@Giuzepp8_5 thanks for your reply . I just want a stage 1 with tune/dyno and cold air intake so the engine and turbo can breath better . Just Abit worried about engine with the extra stress .
@@HI-pi1er The wrx motor can handle the power increase from a stage 1 tune safely. You will get the same amount of mileage out of the car as if kept stock, that also depends on how you drive and maintenance. If you have access to a reputable tuner with a dyno, this is the best route with or without the cold air intake. Otherwise I would go with Cobb stage1+ package since the stage1+ tune is dialed in for their intake system out of the box or the cobb stage 1 off the shelf tune with OEM air box and filter.
@@Giuzepp8_5 awesome . I think I’ll go with Cobb acces port with the tune/ dyno and a cold air intake .
If you flash stage 1 OTS do you have to keep the accessport hooked up or can you just flash and not have it hooked up anymore?
No, it's only if you want to watch the gauges on the AP. You want to set up knock gauges to monitor when driving just incase there is a problem.
Spot on video, I've been thinking for a sometime to get an accessport for my 2016 wrx, mine is stock and I'm planning to keep it that way, but the reve hang and also the lost of boost after getting to 4k rpm it drives me crazy.
I bought a used WRX and asked the dealership if they could tell if there was a tune on it from the previous owner, and they said they would have to send some ECU codes to Subaru and then wait to get them back, so it's not something they do. If all your internals are stock I don't think Subaru would see any reason to check your ECU to see if the car was flashed.
Basically, Subaru will not plug anything in to determine if your car is tuned, and the only reason they would do that is if they see all the bolt-ons you have before voiding your warranty.
Your assessment is spot on!!
I don’t know if you still have the problem with hill assist but you can turn it off completely you have to hold it down until the inductor shows up and then release and hold for 5 seconds there’s a couple vids but when I hold clutch I roll back
Cobb is great drivability but that’s it honestly but MAPerformance will put a smile on your face. If you don’t have it already. You need to get it.
Strangely the MA Performance tune for me does nothing but knock and throw my DAM down. But the Cobb tunes are perfect. Shame
@@ninbri64 That's definitely not typical results. You may want to look into what else might be needing done there. The vast majority of users of both say the MAP tune is much better, especially in regards to knock.
same man just got a 2019and after 4grand the car feels like its taking a shit
The crazy part is the stock tune lean out the car around 4,500-5,000 rpm Which sucks because now not only is you’re engine getting heat soaked but the stock tune is leaning you’re engine. Causing you’re car to just run slow.
Not only that but leaning out while revving high is not good at all for your motor. It’s better to be rich than lean. Although obviously to rich is a big problem as well.
Hell yeah man I’m glad you’re much more happy with it. I hate the stock tune. Very scared to void my warranty.
@TheMetalGuy852 they are not on warranty? weird, mine and my throw out bearing was changed at 20k.
@Young Mercy footprints
@@someguy920 I got a 7 year warranty on mine the only thing it does not cover is the GPS
I think that they restrict it down is to not let it be quicker than the WRX STI model from factory.
Idk what people don't get the cobb accessport doesn't void warranty your warrant is only voided if that part is the reason why something is broke
I wanna get a accessport but I don't wanna void my warranty for my 22 wrx.
i have a aftermarket intake, intercooler and a BOV, is there a certain tune that cobb comes with for my aftermarket parts?
You running around with all them mods and no tune.
😂
Hey what's the link to where you got your co b accessport? I can't find their website.
Did you swap intake or left it alone do you have a link to access port thanks
So the stage 1 is useable for stock
Definitely move to the MAPerformance tune. If the COBB tune made you happy, the MAP tune will make you giddy.
David Flusser map tune using the accessport?
james PrO yes. You can download from the MA Performance website. It’s $75 but totally worth it. It’s not a Pro-tune, but it’s the next best thing. I bought my Accessport from them and they give you the tube for free. The most notable difference from the COBB tune is the pull in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear. Very strong moving through them.
I should mention I am using the stage 1 93 octane tune. Not sure if there is a big difference the 91 vs the 93 I. Terms of how the car responds.
FYI my dealer told me to get the Accessport.
David Flusser really, that’s a first. Ima have to buy the MAP tune I see people talking about. 🤔
cant you just load the stock tune back on to not effect your warranty?????? please help
Apparently they can tell if the ECU was reflashed is what others have commented before. Not sure. I traded the wrx just fine for an STI. No issues
Where did u get ur kit from
Its functional performance is really good. I would prefer everyone to grab now!
I just have a question about my 2021 WRX. When I’m on like 1st or 2nd gear and I’m driving slow the rpm goes down and it starts to jerk and even when I’m shifting to second it always jerks even tho I’m really smooth with the clutch. Also like I gotta give it a lot of gas on the first gear to get going. I wonder if Cobb access-port stage 1 would help with that?
I know these videos were old, having owned a stock wrx, it definitely falls flat around 4.5k and picks back up before redline. While it does take away from the thrills. It still scoots. I think if it pulled that hard all the way, the stock sti would have some trouble lol
Daamm i love this video man!!
Big fan of the access port. Been running stage 1 now for a year and it’s so much better.
Are u still on stage 1 lol? also hw many miles u got
Why do you think it’s better ? It feels slow af
Is it worth it for the Cobb stage 1? No. Is the access port worth it for other pro tunes? Yes. I highly recommend BrenTuning in Massachusetts. I couldn’t believe the difference
Shaky cam is bad, nauseating. A stationary camera showing the gauges while driving would have been helpful to see how much better the Rev hang is now too.
Do you still have the car? How is it running? Is there a follow up video you made with this car by chance?
Wow nice find on the used Accessport website, kudos! They dont have anymore on the 15+ wrx so hopefully i can look into them once they have more. Yeah, I cant wait to get Cobb with muffler delete as well, and i too dont want to void my warranty either on my 18' sport wrx. Lol ive had the car for 11 months now and only 4k miles on it lol still a baby.
Does anyone know why the car is tuned the way it is from the factory ?
Emissions is 99% of the reason usually.
So all you need to tune your car is buy the accessport or do you have to take it into the shop?
You know what would be nice with your tune the brentuning burble addon. That shit will POP NON STOP. Great video man.
How can I tune it
I have a stock 2018 Subaru wrx that I’ve only added an axleback to. Would the Cobb AP hurt the engine/turbo or cause any reliability issues in the future? Very new to car modifications and I’m seeing mixed responses.
Can you not save the stock map and change it back if you needed to take it to the dealership "under warranty" ?
T apparently they can read on the ECU whether it’s been flashed or not. That’s how they’re able to tell
right wing conservative stunt bums 77 The correct term for the above is "warranty fraud"...yes, it's both illegal & immoral
Basically taking advantage of a policy just because you were stupid enough to break something knowing the consequences.
You pay to play, can’t get any more self-explanatory than that.
@@someguy920 bingo, I bought a used WRX and asked the dealership if they could tell if there was a tune on it from the previous owner, and they said they would have to send some ECU codes to Subaru and then wait to get them back, so it's not something they do. If all your internals are stock I don't think Subaru would see any reason to check your ECU to see if the car was flashed.
Do you need a stage 1 tune if you do a muffler delete
no, you can straight pipe the car without any tuning, but if you take out your cats and get a downpipe you will need tune
I put a short ram intake on my 09 subaru without a tune and it made my car run lean and the air fuel mixture was off it was getting to much air to the point it dried my notor of oil and it made it spin a bearing
Robert Monteagudo Subaru’s are really delicate to mods so definitely always tune if you install and performance parts like that
what mount are you using?
what’s the name of the company where you bought your used Access port?
Simple answer ….. HELL YES . If you wanna do any modifications to a wrx or sti and you don’t have a Cobb AP . Well then have fun running extremely rich and possibly sending a rod to the moon cause you need one . Even for just an intake, doesn’t matter you need it . If you don’t modify you’re car then the choice is all up to you. Even stock I would suggest one because like he said the stock tune is booty cheeks lol. if you push the throttle down halfway it feels like full throttle. it’s just not really drivable from the factory. it’s much much better when it has even an ots tune.
So im planning on doing 8-10k miles on it mayne 5-8k, I'll see how I feel, but ots stage 1 cobb should not harm car? So basically, I should know if the car has any drive/powertrain issues by then I'd guess, so if that's the case, it "shouldn't" be an issue? Ive also experienced its 4.5+k rpm drop off and would like to,be able to still get some acceleration to at least high 5k. Anyone in comments who has this car, can you please offer you're experience and opinion.
The car falls off cuz its set at 22 pounds kf boost atleast the 2018 wrx is and the stock tune makes it hit a major boost cut and wont make the full 22 cuts at like 16-17 area nor.ay on stock tune
Yeah I felt the same after the break-in period. BIG disappointment.
I almost got rid of the car because of that. Losing the warranty for some things the car should have had from the factory is a big NO; especially since Subaru already has a few persistent quirks and issues you'll need a warranty for.
EA M you end up getting it?
I’m on the stage 1 tune and it’s actually pretty good
last year I leased a 2017 WRX, absolutely love the car but clearly can’t modify the vehicle. I’m trying to decide if when my lease is up in 2020 if I should make a purchase on the next generation, if it does come out.. or purchase my 2017. Residual value is at about 18k, so not bad.. All these vids on access ports and tunes, exhaust, etc..really make me want to tune it and just buy the car, but I also enjoy these low lease payments.. perks of leasing lol
Bryce Gutierrez people mod leases all the time
Bob Jones i thought about it but heard that I could get penalties when I go to trade in if they see something has been tampered with. I also figured it would be a waste of money unless I decide to keep it. I wouldn’t be able to do the access port.
Fuck it send it bro
Modded my lease and paid it out and kept it. Great car.
I seriously don't understand what you're talking about man. Mine pulls even better right around 4k up til 6k, then it falls off. Im baffled. mines a 15, maybe the 18 tune is different? I dunno. Mine is 100% stock except for an axle back and it pulls just fine at 34k miles.
H Bobo dude same here, I have no idea what idea he is talking about. For me, the 16 WRX didn't even MAKE any power until 4K RPM...
The 18 is slower up top , I’ve driven a stock 17 and 15 and both have better power up top then the 18 I have , the 18 literally falls on its face after 4 , I’m guessing it’s the stock tune I’m not sure but it seems slower than past years wrx which I was pissed about when I bought the car
andrew alvarez interesting....Id heard they revised the tune for ‘18, but I didn’t think it would be so drastic as to comply change the power curve. That’s a shame/
andrew alvarez I agree man. my 2017 feels like it’s fast and it’s stock. Haven’t done anything to it!
I own a 15 and bought it new, falls off after 5. You buy used? It might have been tuned
I bought a brand new 2019 WRX roughly two months ago. I'm not the best with stick shift, but with that being said, I find this car very difficult to drive stock. However, it's very difficult for me to consider tuning the car, even if it improves drivability. I worry about the reliability. This car doesn't have the best reputation in the reliability department, especially when it comes to tuning. I find it hard to believe that Subaru and the folks that actually built the car wouldn't know what tune is best for it. I'm sure other tunes are more fun and free up a bit of power, but at what cost?? I'm looking for something to convince me that an aftermarket tune is worth voiding my warranty for... as I'd like to be able to enjoy driving the car more.
I got a pro tune done by Ron Watson. A pro tune will definitely have the car running healthy, no knock. They monitor everything until the car is running perfectly. Wanting to tune the car and potentially void warranty is of course at your discretion
So you bougth the access port and also you bought a pro tune by Ron waltson??
Where did you say you bought your tune from? I couldn’t understand what you said lol
jeffery the AP guys
how much does a tune cost for a wrx?
Mystxry Cobb access port costs $675 but it includes Stage 1-3 maps and you can custom map too. It’s worth it IMO. Plus you can also use the Cobb AP for other tunes as well like from delicious tuning or other tuners
What’s the different between V3 and V4?
A number.
How often do you tune even if you haven't added new mods/parts?
do you have to keep the Cobb Accessport plugged in after flashing or can you remove it?
You can remove it
@@SergiRodas Awesome thank you!
So you have the choice of disabling the roll back assist or not?
It’s like it’s fighting me , and the best way I can explain it is I feel the rev hang from the engine in the clutch especially first to second it’s very weird to describe but it feels like I can feel the ground in my clutch , does the tune fix this or is this another issue I should see the dealership about
andrew alvarez not sure. The rev hang on stock tune is very bad from 1st to 2nd. The rest was pretty normal. As far as the clutch, i don’t recall having any problems
This is the only way to combat the Rev hang from 1st to 2nd... You literally have to wait until the revs start to drop and THEN release the clutch, otherwise your car will buck and jump all over the place.
Even if you are trying to speed , I did a first to second pull shifted at 6rpms and didn’t dump the clutch but tried to let off quickly and I heard a loud thump and car jerked hard and since then I don’t push the car in first gear it doesn’t seem to like it at all idk if it’s my car or just the stock tune .
andrew alvarez yes this problem is notorious with the 15+ engine. The Rev hang is meant to protect the engine, but if you look at the competition they don't have rev hang and their performance is just as strong, that's the frustrating thing. Like I said though, with the stock tune you have to wait a second until the revs start to drop and then you can get rid of the clutch pretty quickly and drop it into 2nd. Otherwise, it's like riding a mechanical bull 😎
@@tr1ckster726 best respond. this is what I was dealing with today . I just got a 2019 WRX Premium on June second and I am also learning how to drive a manual, I have had automatic all my life. shit is dramatic lol
Do you have to mount the AP? Are there more than one tunes so you can add an intake later?
are the cobb stage 1 tune that comes with the accessport all the same around the world ? i'm in australia thinking of getting one but a lot of ppl have said it's not worth it
I'm in Aus and it's the best thing you can do for you. It makes the car a lot better to drive, just like he explained it in the video. ADM models are included. The tunes are different for different markets. Buy one locally and it will have the right tune for your car already installed on it, and you can download new ones if you need from the COBB website.
My 2018 wrx is stock apart from the COBB AP. It drives like a different car, much better. Get one, you won't regret it.
@@Senator315 I got a brand new wrx but scared to put a turn and intake . Not because of warranty just because i want my car to last and have no problems . What’s your take on this ?
@@HI-pi1er Had it running on mine now for 4 years. No issues.
I put an intake on, it lasted 1 day before I took it off and sold it. It was way too loud. I was embarrassed to drive it. If you want attention, you will get it, good and bad. Plus you will need a custom tune unless you use the COBB intake, then you can use the OTS tune. If your worried, you can get a custom tune added to the COBB AP. Best way to go. The OTS maps aren't bad, but a custom tune for your car is better.
Find someone with an intake so you can hear it before you buy one so you know what you're getting yourself into.
@@Senator315 I just want a cold air intake and a tune and I’ll be happy . So the car is to loud with a cold air intake ? Wtf ?
What was website for the cobb that you mentioned in the video?
I bought a used 2017, ets intake, axle back exhaust. If the previous owner had an accessport would those stage 1 maps stay on car until Subaru or Accessport reflashes ecu to stock? My car has great power once turbo is spooled, until then it’s a Subaru. Crushes in snow though.
for clarification: does the accessport + Stage 1 Tune void your warranty? I’ve heard otherwise
Just assume it does. You’re altering the computer of the car. If the time caused an issue it won’t be covered
Do you have to unplug the Cobb ap when you turn car off? I seen a video that when you first get it and set it up it recommends hooking up battery charger, so my question is do you have to unplug it every time you turn car off or does it not effect Battery when plugged it after initial setup?
It always says that in case of battery loss mid tuning the car. You can set it so it shuts off when the car is turned off. It wont stay on
Sergi Rodas that’s cool, I’m going to get one soonish. I’ve been reading it ain’t quite ready for the 2020 wrx yet so gotta wait a little longer
Do you get the pops with the tune?
You said The AP Guys?
I notice the same thing on my stock 08 6mt liberty gt spec b...bit underwhelming :(
It’s completely stock. Maybe I’ll get one of these access ports.. do you need a 3” exhaust or cai for a performance tune?
I’m totally new to tuning etc. if I just want a basic stage 1 tune, what recommendations /advise would you give.
David C most popular tunes to go with are from Cobb or MA Performance. Both companies are really good with providing instructions and with any help.
How much power does the stage 1 tune add?
Zero
Does the tune sacrifice any reliability and or their any major cons to look out for. I bought a 2016 wrx like 4 months ago with 57,000 mileage on it and it’s my daily for college and work. Would appreciate a answer
Name of muffler delete?
Nameless performance
I have a lease and am debating getting an Cobb accessport. Is it worth it or no?
TwoWheeledSausage TwoWheeledSausage you end up getting it?
It's not your car, stop it
Does it fix the rev hang issue
Yes eliminates the hang
I agree with everything you say, mine only has about 3000km on it so still quite new but yeah after around 5k rpm the engine power just feels limited. I had a mazda 3 MPS before this and that thing felt way more aggressive in the higher rpms. I wanna go stage 1 but weary about warranty voiding...🤔
Same shit and i dad the same shitbox🤣
"Dam that's a huge house, look at that"
Billy that’s the house on bull run post office road
Its haunted
Nice job I decided to go with a muffler delete too. I love the pops on down shifts, looking to get an access Port thanks for your feedback.
How is it over time? Any issues so far?
I never had any issues. I traded the car in this past December for an STI but it always ran well. I ended up pro tuning after a while
Sergi Rodas do you think it’s better to just get a pro tune? I have a 19 with only 16k miles on it. Don’t really wanna void the warranty but I’m so tired of the rev hang. You seem like me though. I don’t drive the car very hard at all. thanks!
Can u do the stage 1 tune on 100 % stock?
Jordan Miller yes. I’m technically 100% stock. My muffler delete isn’t really a mod. Just noise
I got a ticket on that road hehe 😂
Sir pops a lot
Hey bro quick question , I just bought a 2018 wrx and the clutch feels weird when I take it over 4 rpms
TheMetalGuy852 like a scratchy feeling when I clutch in above 4rpms , almost in every gear but not as noticeable in high gears but it’s bad from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd
TheMetalGuy852 car has just under 2,000 miles and I thought I just had to break it in but it’s still doing it and idk if it’s because of the rev hang because i can feel the rev hang in the clutch also , dealership keeps saying it’s normal but I’m going to ask and see if the tech can drive another 18wrx and compare because this doesn’t seem normal ,
andrew alvarez my car does that also! What did you find out I have a 18 wrx also
18 wrx here & I can say mine has that scratchy/gritty feeling in the clutch when I release it sometimes at certain rpms
It’s normal. I have a 15 wrx and just got a new transmission that y’all 18 plus have and it’s suppose to be Normal.
It's worth it if you get a protune with it
How do you record these kinds of videos?
Angel Mendoza GoPro and head strap
okay thanks :)
You need a external wastegate to keep boost
Lilian Solano they sound like complete ass on a wrx I know from experience
Idk man I just got the access port and it’s stage 1 tuned Some of the pros are that the rev hang is a lot better from 1st to second and the power band is very linear to redline but the stock tune felt a lot faster idk it feels so slow with the Cobb stage one tune
Ots map is great for just cbe etc..If you do go mod route get dyno tuned not only to be safe but to get the maximum power out of them mods!
If you don’t mind me asking, do you still work at the Ford dealership? And what do you do there? Thanks bro love the videos new sub over here.
I don’t work there anymore. I was in internet sales
Sergi Rodas I’m 18 and I currently do doordash but I put hella miles on my Truck and get 11mpg. School isn’t out of the picture but it’s far out there. Do you think ford is a good place to go?
You can learn a lot from any car dealer. The specific dealer i worked at was great but the employees and managers were cool. Every dealer is different
Are you able to take the access port off? Like when you go home can you bring it inside with you?
Just got a 2018 a few months ago the thing is awesome to drive every day!! I also have a 2010 WRX that I have beat the crap out of for 7 years driving it 300 miles a week for work . My main question would be for the 2018 if this stage 1 tune gives you a faster 0 to 60 or 0 to 80 I cant seem to find very much info on that with the car being stock no intake or exhaust
I’m 2018 stock with MAP stage 1 93 and I pulled a 4.7 0-60 and a 13.4 1/4 mile
David Flusser hell yeah! Those are pretty good numbers ‘ I’ve heard good things about MAP I’m going to check that out :)
No Use For A Name I should have mentioned that I only get a 0-60 time below 5 seconds when I use launch control. I do a little better when I’m below a 1/4 tank of gas. Otherwise it’s usually 5 - 5.1 0-60. I’m not on a mission to destroy my clutch so I really don’t launch it. But I like knowing I can make this bastard move when it needs to.
wow, that's good bro.
the sti doesnt lose it at 4k
That is my play road with my FTX. That's my short cut to 66
Forget the car, what about that house?!!
What is your average boost on daily driving? I'm finding my boost is lower then average, I'm averaging 6-10 psi on 40-60% acceleration..
I barely touched 15 psi when I practically floored it. Does this mean something is wrong with my tune?
2019 subaru wrx
Prdgy.Media are you running on stage 1 tune? Just got my AP too and just found out there is a normal, low, and high wastegate tune you can download on the cobb website. Play around with it and it will probably change how your car feels
On stock tune 2018 wrx I’m at 22 lbs. but it needs a tune bad.
It's a tiny turbo, around town drivability is great, of course it'll fall off at over 4k.
I was doing pulls in my 2019 wrx at 50 miles on the odometer.
I swear the 1000 mile thing is just a myth my car is still running fine
Mine pulls more after 4500rpm
Had Subaru turn the hill assist off before I left the lot with it! Lol
Ty XIII Subarus hill assist should be renamed "Stall Assist"
My hill assist works great for normal driving. As soon as I release a little pressure off the clutch pedal the brakes release. The brakes release well before the clutch begins to grab. For my normal daily driving I’m convinced it’s extending my clutch life.
Got a 07 Hawkeye today came with one of these, vf43 turbo, 3 inch invidia exhaust system, and a Cobb intake. All for 10,000$ I had an insurance claim so I only paid 2,000$. He said it gets to 90 MPH in 3rd gear... I'm not too sure how to work this port.. but I'm sure if he was driving it before me the settings should be proper? Do you have to mess with this thing alot??? Or only when u want to increase boost ect?
Should’ve got a stock sti
if you have e85 in your area get the cob flex fuel easy 100 horses beat the sti
I just got a 2017wrx. Good to know the access port will fix the boost dropping off. I thought I bought a pile of shit car.