Dijonay Jones: The Worst Friend Ever
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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In the reboot, she outed the new kids by telling everyone they had 2 dads, easily got over Sticky and was immediately smitten with one of those new kids, and most recently hacked Penny’s phone and got a homeless teacher fired
Goddamn! She only got worse in the reboot. Really hope they give Dijonay *SOME* redemption before she becomes an irredeemable character.
If they don’t redeem her character (which I actually don’t want them to) they need Penny to get her out of the friend group. It could be a good lesson to kids or at least just teach her a lesson and make her character improve… SOMETHING
You would think the writers would have some common sense about her character. Why would the guy even like her when she outed his fathers? Seriously, you would think he would hate her for doing that and telling her what a piece of garbage she really is.
@@albireotheredguard1599 he doesn’t like her, he avoids her but I get what you’re saying
@@FreakyWingedAngel well she did stand up for penny a little one ep and i wondered if she was sick or something and then later episodes a bitch again
I think Suga mama said it best. "She's faker than your fake friends."
I remember this episode 😂😂😂
On god
Sugar mama was always my favorite character she’s so real
She's equally bad in the reboot, if not worse. Currently up to the episode "raging bully" she's done things such as out a gay couple after being told not to by penny, sold out her teacher's bad living situation, and didn't even stick up for penny when she was kicked from the dance/singing group they formed in the original show. She's been nothing but a hinderance to the group, even saying its completely okay her siblings just stole bobby's car.
To be fair, Bobby deserved that one for being a douche to her siblings.
Oh boy S2 Ep3 "Curved" makes her even more terrible...
Well in season 2 episode 3 of the reboot, we finally have more of a connection to Dijonay and she starts being nicer to Penny
@@lifeboy3253 I’ll give Dijonay some credit though. At least in Louder and Prouder, she makes an honest effort to be a better friend, and on her own initiative. She didn’t hesitate to tell LaCienega to quit stealing Kareem from Penny. In another episode, she didnt like LaCienega giving Penny crap for her new voice, and she didn’t approve of Bobby kicking Penny (his own niece) out of the band. And in the episode with Al Roker, Dijonay refused to allow Penny to stay behind in her wish-induced college reality, and she sent Oscar the contract when Penny failed to leave before the trial period ended.
She would be the perfect villain.
As you get older you realize who your true friends are, and as far as Penny's circle is concerned the only real friends she had was Sticky and Michael who would rag on her like everyone else does, but they were never mean spirited, it was always in jest, and yeah friends do rag on eachother for fun. But her female peers are all trash.
Dijonay is disloyal and self serving, and a total stalker that we're supposed to laugh at, even though if it was the other way around, viewers would take offense to her lovesick antics.
Lacienega is stuckup, and antagonistic towards penny at every given opportunity. She has layers for sure, but it's clear she's that one financially well off friend that everyone gravitates towards for the wealth and nothing else.
Zoey is a sheep who flocks with the majority. She's a nice girl, but she's only as loyal as long as you're the winning side.
It paints a bleak picture of Penny's social life where she surrounds herself with people she has to call her friends because she doesn't have any better options, and IRL sometimes it really is like that for folks growing up, and eventually they mature and outgrow those people in their lives and find new ones.
Never watched the show but I'm gonna use this for story inspiration.
Makes me wonder if they will ever tackle this problem in the Proud Family louder and prouder?
@@katymbeke8400 like what exactly?
Sticky and Michael are great
@@itsblitz4437 Creative Writing, I've already got something planned but it's gonna take awhile before the Penny inspired character gets into the picture.
It was established in the first episode that Dijonay was a fake friend when she gave Penny and LaCianega a tie in cheerleading tryouts after she told Penny she was in AND when Suga Mama uttered the line " I told you to ditch that Dijonay girl a long time ago" the major sign of a fake ass friend
So what? Ever seen Meangirls?
@Will N wait a year? cause the movie was her turning 16 louder and prouder turned her 14
“Especially that Dijon girl; she faker than your fake friends”.
@Will N it was a soft reboot. theyre all 14-15 and in middle school like the previous series
Agreed
I HATE this character with a passion. Even as a kid I always wondered why Penny never called off their friendship, cuz she's not only a terrible friend, but a terrible human being. And so far in the revival, she's hasn't gotten any better. Honestly at this point I'm so sick of her I want them to write an episode killing off her character and just have it be a "lesson" about grieving. At least then she'd bring something of value to the show
Calm down
@Curly-n-Girly Penny's friends don't have to be like the kids in Recess. This approach to flawed friendships seem more adult and nuanced
Even Suga mama dislike dijonay She usually comments on how she doesn't like Dijonay because of how two-faced selfish and backstabbing she is and how Penny shouldn't hang out with her. Considering the number of times Dijonay has ditched Penny and sold her out, Suga Mama is definitely not wrong in fact penny should have listen to grandmother and suger mama has told Penny at least twice that she needs to drop her as friend a long time ago which is understandable reasonsince Sugar Mama rightfully warning Penny about Dijonay being a bad influence and shouldn’t be friend with her to begin with because how self-serving untrustworthy and toxic she is to penny
@@williampearson6299 bruh she’s a horrible friend and the rest aren’t that better either penny needs some real friends
@@williampearson6299 At least the kids in Recess feel like genuine friends.
What baffles me is there was never an episode about how Penny has had enough with Dijonay and finally listens to Suga Mama when she said to ditch her. She should've done it a long time ago. All she's doing is bringing Penny down. Heck, even Lacienega isn't this bad.
Even Arnold ended it with Iggy .
Yeah, at least with Lacieaniga you know what to expect. She's mean and she owns up to it. But even she has boundaries.
Dijonay is just fake and two faced
At least Lacianega was honest and made it clear she doesn't like Penny
It no wonder why suga mama dislike dijonay She usually comments on how she doesn't like Dijonay because of how two-faced selfish unreliable and backstabbing she is and how Penny shouldn't hang out with her. Considering the number of times Dijonay has ditched Penny and sold her out, Suga Mama is definitely not wrong in fact penny should have listen to grandmother and suger mama has told Penny at least twice that she needs to drop her as friend a long time ago which is understandable reason since Sugar Mama rightfully warning Penny about Dijonay being a bad influence and shouldn’t be friend with her to begin with because how self-serving untrustworthy disloyal and toxic she is to penny
@Blue Anims yeah but penny need wake up call and wise up to realize that dijonay is not really friend material and must cut her out of her life
Its kind of strange to realize now of how shows we used to cherish as kids back in the 2000s and thought was funny, to now today was really actually gave bad lessons and role models, themes and really just toxic relationships and characters.
I was very young in the early 2000s (when a lot of tween shows were already wrapping up production), but even when I was too young to actually get it, the very few times I saw it on tv, something felt VERY off - like a lot of the shows had the mean 'best friends' that the main protag hang out with for SOME reason and always getting screwed over by said 'besties', like I didn't get great vibes from it so I didn't grow up with it. Thank god too because I was easily impressionable and would had thought "guess that's how (girl) friendships worked, take all the trash they hurl at you and just deal with it!" Doesn't help that if you see today's shows and how they write their characters and the consequences they gotta face (e.g Amphibia, Gravity Falls, etc.), you kinda realise how the morals and character writing did NOT age well for shows like this 😅
Like yeah, lots of people will defend the show and say "yeah they're not meant to be flawless, it's a realistic outlook on friendship!", like in that case, I'd rather be friendless than deal with Penny's friends. Like I like flawed characters as much as the next guy, but they had all crossed the line of being unlikeable and "why should I care if they get hit by a truck?" Plus, if they want realism so badly, Penny would had eventually snapped and dumped them for good, people in real life have limits too.
@@jessoliveiro8975 yeah and very well said, I am glad I'm not the only one who has been bamboozled by this type of programming of writing, especially shows have been shown on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and Disney Channel with a very similar writing formula.
List on things that Dijonay is the worst friend to others:
1. She's a big gossiper
2. She's a doublecrosser
3. A tattle tailler
4. Not good at keeping secrets
5. Not knowing that Sticky her former boyfriend doesn't like her one bit
Like sticky literally escaped by moving to China penny shouldn't have lied about what was on the letter she should have told her sticky was talking about you he left because he was tired of your stalking
Somehow, Dijonay being a horrible friend felt authentic to me. Like, teenagers really do have this proclivity towards chronic backstabbing, no matter how close they are. Lacienega felt authentic that way too. I mean, the bully/queen bee dynamic isn't as cliquey as it is in most other cartoons. Teenagers in real life will hang out and do everything together, even if they really hate each other. Yeah, Penny's squad might be ready to turn on her at a moment's notice, but as harsh and unpleasant as it comes across to us viewers, it's not totally off-base.
She is basically a walking "with friends like those, who needs enemies?"
There's something to be said about all of Penny's friends being bad friends to some degree (even Penny herself) but Dijonay is hands down the worse of them. Lacienega was at least honest in her dislike of Penny and was never her friend, plus her family was one of the best parts of the show, but Dijonay is a bonafide backstabber.
Admittedly it does lead to funny moments and I wouldn't mind that type of character being in the main cast if the show didn't bend over backwards to justify her being in the clique throughout the series with the "friends stick together" spiel. Like give her development, get her to experience some form of consequence, or have an episode where she gets dropped by Penny permanently, something to Dijonay rather than "loud-mouthed two face".
I keep saying that Penny's Theme Song is "Toxic" by Ukeboy!
Dijonay always gave me those bitter baby momma vibes
Dijonay was created by a Black man and written to be a colorist stereotype of dark girls, so that's why,
Considering how Penny is still friends with these people, even after such a time lapse in the series, it makes you wonder if Penny’s part of the problem. She knows how toxic these friends are yet *still* hangs with them. Does she just like being used and abused?
I still highly dislike Penny's "Friends". However, the rest of the show is great. I feel like her "friends" need to be better friends or she needs to get new ones.
But yeah, Dijonay is the worst of the friend group.
Lmao I actually think Lacienega is the worst friend, purely because she knows she’s mean to Penny, she puts it on show for anyone to see, and will go out of her way to make Penny upset. Dijonay just comes off as narcissistic, like unaware of her shitiness
I agree. I've literally started calling her "the swamp" over how nasty she is
shes way better than dijonnay though
@@emerald4866 People really don't take in her home life. Dijonay has multiple siblings that I assume she has to take care of. Hence why she chills and thinks about herself when she's around Penny. There's only so much empathy a person can give. People think black women are supposed to just take it. Dijonay prioritizing herself during friendships is good. Only ride and die for your blood family.
Lacienega and Penny were never friends
@@guyfauks2576 Because LA is pretty she gets away with being mean? DJ is poor, she doesnt think she owes Penny anything
I just realized that the older I get the more I question why I was even cool with certain aspects of the show, let alone why I even unconditionally love the show as a kid. Penny's friend circle is one of the worse I've seen in cartoons. Usually after awhile, most characters have moments of redemption or are called out for being terrible (even in adult shows), but not this show.
Lol maybe I'm getting tired of the overt cynicism and unjustified mean spirit-ness trope found in majority of shows. But shows like Bojack Horseman are exactly that because of real life consequences the characters did.
THIS. And even when the reboot was announced (I was very young when the og Proud Family was already wrapping up production, so I too young to really get into it, but the few times I caught it on tv, I just didn't get any great vibes), I didn't have much hope for it. Like lots of og fans that I saw would defend the show's morals and characters and be like "I don't like Penny's friends, but they're not meant to be flawless and it's REALISTIC" - like if they want realism, Penny would had snapped and dumped them, people in real life have limits too and would eventually have had enough of putting up with toxic friends and roll out.
A show like Amphibia deals with toxic friendships, and they handle infinitely better than the og proud family (I don't really hear anything better about how the reboot writes Penny's main friend group), like there are consequences for the toxic bestie and how the main protag has limits with how much she can put up with and WILL cut ties without hesitation. Plus the characters go through character growth and are actually likeable/interesting. Penny's friends are both unlikeable and "why should I care if they get hit by a truck" to me.
It's like the writers of the show. Do not know how friends are supposed to work
dijonay's obsession with sticky is more like the Kanker sister's stalker behavior in ed edd n eddy.
For the og show when I was younger I've always felt weird when I saw Dijonay on the screen she doesn't get punished and never be actually sorry. She never stops and listen to people and she never do hard work for growth. So far in the New show Dijonay is still the same but less annoying. You wonder if Dijonay will ever have growth since she's in high school.
I'm more of a fan of Penny Proud and Dr.Trudy Proud their relationship inside and outside the family seems more real they both are working hard to get the most out of life. A great mother and daughter relationship you'll rarely see on Media when it comes to Disney ngl.
Dave the Barbarian is a throwback and a half, that and that show about King Arthur and Merlin were my introduction to the whole idk what you'd call it, the rural side of fiction I guess.
It's crazy to think how the Gross Sisters, Penny supposed bullies, had Penny's back more times than Dijonay or the others. Like say what you will about the Gross Sister. But at least they were more honest with themselves and other people.
Why is everyone expecting Dijonay to get some sort of Karmic retribution for her actions? People do bad shit and get away with it all the time, it's not like the show ever pretends she's a good person.
The best disney channel show for good reason is 0:04
And this is why suga mama told penny to ditch her “a long time ago”
I find her hilarious… but Penny should’ve ditched her after Adventures in Babysitting
Well Sugar Mama even said Penny had fake friends, especially that “Dijon girl”. So even she sees what we all see.
I think the Louder and Prouder finale should be about Penny realizing her friends are toxic, going through the motions, and then ultimately ditching them and moving on.
From what I've heard, this girl is the definition of keeping your friends clise and your enemies closer.
We all have these types of friends like Dijonay. I had to leave them behind though and just move on because they never change, there're always the victim and never take accountability. Not all of them have the same personality (extroverted) like she is; there're some who are introverted, but the mindset and actions like Dijonay is the same.
Dijonnay _suuuuuuucks._
Dave the Barbarian was a fantastic show I wish more people watched.
She’s the type of friend who’ll always be around you when things are going well, but she’ll immediately turn on you when it suits her.
Also, will never watch the reboot.
Y’know when you brought up her love/obsession with sticky and her siblings it finally occurred to me that things are probably not going well at her home…
It's high time that Dijonay gets an episode where she really gets a taste of her own medicine and she starts to reflect on her own past actions.
I never thought I'd see a video comparing Dijonay to Peter Pettigrew 😂
The Reboot Is The Same As The Old Show Literally No Difference I Debunked This Several Times!
she's gotten better in the reboot. honest
Dijonay is that toxic friend who people dont see as toxic.
are we gonna just forget how she outed a pair of innocent kids with two dads and then got a homeless woman fired from her job in the reboot? 😭
_I don’t think Dijonay is the only toxic one, they all are, even Penny. In “Poetic Justice”, I remember Penny resenting Dijonay for being a better poet than her. She told Trudy if you teach someone something and they’re better than you at it, you should hate them or something like that. This friendship group is honestly so toxic and idk why Penny hangs out with them. If LaCienaga doesn’t like them, why does she hang out with them…_
_with that said I enjoy the show and most of the characters. Dijonay makes me laugh but aside from that Penny really needs some real friends. The Gross Sisters are better friends and they’re meant to be her enemies_
Personally i think Dijonay's behavior stems from being the eldest of 10 siblings, because her parents don't seem to know what a condom is or buy quality. (Seriously people condoms are the ONLY thing, THE ONLY THING, anyone should pay retail for)
Whenever she seems to stab penny in the back there is more often than not money involved in that decision. Something her folks probably don't make enough of on their own. Heck in the reboot she snitched for the perk of getting all of her siblings free lunch for when they all go to their...middle school?...high school?...they're 15 right? Shouldn't it be a highschool at this point? Hell shouldnt the cast be outta college by this point if they have call backs to events from the previous series?! Ugh i hate cartoons that do this...but my point is Dijonay has motives stemming from her parent's rabbit syndrome. Does it justify how scummy a friend she is/was because the reboot might address that? Heck no at all. Does it give her depth? Yes
To me, Dijonay is the friend you had when you were five and grew up with her, but as you got to middle school you didn't like her anymore. You don't want to talk anymore but you've known her all your life and no one else will give her a shot so you feel like you have to be her friend. Or your parents are friends and you keep seeing her all the time so you feel like you HAVE to hang out or else it'll cause a problem for the families. "Go play with Dijonay sweetie, your mom and I will be with her parents talking." kind of situation.
I had that and the moment I was old enough to stay home alone I stopped seeing them. They were so rude, always interrupting, repeating what I said but louder, taking food off my plate, making fun of everything I like, etc. They couldn't imagine why I didn't like talking to them.
I always thought she was ratchet, but when she outed Maya dads, I nearly hit the floor! It was so carelessly cruel that I could never like her in any capacity again.
Even Suga Mama knew that Dijonay was a terrible friend.
Her and La Cienega are both terrible
But i still prefer Lacienega over her because atleast she is 100 about how she feels about Penny
Hated her as a kid and I still hate her as an adult. She's too damn fake man. Penny needed a better friend group entirely. I saw people like herand steered clear and FAR AWAY
Y’all remember the episode when djonay KNOWS LaCienega is mean and she acts like she doesn’t know
When I watched the entirety of The Proud Family series (except the movie), I didn’t notice how bad of a friend Dijonay was to Penny. However, I did notice how badly Oscar Proud behaves, and fortunately he would always get his comeuppance.
I'm a little concerned about people who don't see anything wrong with her behavior.
I think the movie should've focused on Dijonay and Penny's relationship. Like Dijonay really screws up and has to work hard to get back in Penny's good graces.
I've never seen the show but for bits, but she sounds the type to have been the one to talk the other kids into that awful "SLAAAAAAVES BUILT THIS COOOOUNTRY" stage performance.
Thank you for this video. I needed a study guide for this character-type.
And she wonders why Sticky moved
I don't like any of penny's friends. All of them are unlikable
Is it me or is it that lots of 2000s characters really have dark sides
I was today years old when I realized her name was supposed to be like Dijon mustard… and that’s why all of her siblings have continent names
Worst friend ever? Griffith, are you hearing this?
Didn’t she get penny to watch all of her siblings while she went out a party or something 💀
This character looks like it was design simply to do the whole head shake thing
Gods, I'm reminded of an episode of the show way back when, Dijonay just straight up admits, more or less, "yeah, I'm a total piece of treacherous shit, but it's just who I am! I know, and am okay with this!" So, in case it isn't mentioned in this video. She knows. It's all deliberate. And Penny, sadly not having better options, just accepts it in stride. And the way it's presented, we're all supposed to just nod in agreement and say, "Oh, classic Dijonay! XD"
You know what's that's called right? Criminal intent.
She would stab Penny in the back at the drop of a hat!
Honestly i just need an episode where Penny gets away from everybody in this show and becomes successful while everyone else is stuck at rock bottom just begging her for help even though everyone treated her like crap!
I want her to fight Dodie Bishop from As Told By Ginger.
Hey Dijonae don't gossip about this
Dijonae: f you guys I'm gonna gossip! Worst friend ever.
Her name is spelt as Dijonay not Dijonae. Please spell it properly the name is in the title my dude.
I remembered Dave's voice when you brought him up at the start, and then realized Jack Spicer probably has the same voice actor. I was right, and there wasnt even a sound clip from either show, crazy.
Penny needs better friends as a whole, none of them are good
Dijonay looks like a Duracell Battery
And Djonay youre even worse than lacianaga
Just wait until you see what she does in the newest season of the reboot just released. You think you don't like her now just watch!
Oh god
for many times i just realize shes worse then patrick from spongebob squarepants
To be fair the gross sisters are better than friends to penny.
The gross sisters had a code. There were lines they wouldn't cross and they actually kept their word.
At least penny knew where she stood with them. They may have been schoolyard bullies but they had a code of sorts that they wouldn't cross. (For example they made a point to not associate with actual criminals)
The Gross Sisters are no longer villains. They gave up stealing money to create rap songs.
@@siyahseeker Eh... That's them just elevating their schtick. Lol
@@bored4033 good point, love a complex character and especially teens with standards
While I agree that Dijonay is the worst of the lot, she is by no means the only bad character. Penny's entire friend group is toxic. Also, I vastly disagree about the Proud Family being a show with consistently good characters. Just about every major character, except Oscar and Trudy, change based on what the episode needs at the time. Penny herself is a prime example, being an honor roll student whom her parents trust completely one episode, to being a party throwing delinquent the next.
Hey, hello, how do ya do?
I love you God bless you bro this comment made me happy@@BiggusJakeus
Do a video.
Penny is lightweight compared to Dijonay. Dijonay will stab you in the back then come back when what she betrayed you for fails. Although I think the worst character of that show is Suga Mama.
Dijonnay is worse for the simple fact of when penny gets upset or actually give her a taste of her own medicine from all the backstabbing and being self serving the show itself paints penny as the bad guy who did her friends dirty but not when her friends are doing her dirty 💀
And I never could get why? I always thought that was so dumb and make little to no sense. Like she is supposed to be the all around forgiving good nature friend who just takes everyone's crap but can't do the same in reverse.
Well season 2 episode 3 of the reboot “Curved” finally gives us a connection to Dijonay and at the end she starts actually being a nice friend to Penny
@@lifeboy3253 what happens in that episode
@@bshans6036 Penny is preparing for her and Dijonay's friend-iversary. At the same time, she is also on the debate team with Maya, Myron, and Zoey. However, Zoey has lost her voice and a new debate team member is randomly chosen by their teacher Brother Kwame (Leslie Odom Jr.), who turns out to be Dijonay. No one thinks she is up to the task, but to their astonishment, Dijonay is revealed to have an eidetic memory and is able to help the team win the debate. She soon meets Darrius St. Vil (Chance the Rapper), another debate member, and begins to spend more time with him. Penny becomes angered, especially when they both begin to openly mock her in front of them. While at the zoo, Penny voices her frustrations to Shuggie the Panda before discovering that Darrius has been lifting notes from Dijonay. She reveals this to the team and Dijonay is angered in quits. On the day of the debate, Dijonay returns and helps her team win. While angry at Darrius, she forgives him and opts to celebrate her win and friend-iversary with Penny. This finally shows a change to Dijonay.
@@bshans6036
The episode definitely happens
Dijonay is kinda worse than that Harry Potter character you mentioned because his life was on the line whereas Dijonay just tries to avoid being inconvenienced.
Dijonay is just a fairweather friend.
@@Nakia11798 and is that bad thing?
@@itsblitz4437 should be an obvious yes.
Patrick Star is an even worse friend than she is
@@paolotorres8537 Patrick is at least dumb enough to not even understand things are messed up most of the time though
Can we talk about Penny’s parents always making Penny miss key moments as a teenager just to babysit? But get mad when she made mature actions.
The show just screws Penny over so much I'm surprised she still has the patience to deal with any of them, and _then_ the show wants to paint _HER_ as the one in the wrong! It's fvckin ridiculous.
I really wish I could hug her tbh she doesn't deserve this
@starletnight2849 Even in the reboot they don't treat her right. Like when they locked her outside her home at NIGHT. Putting her in literal potential danger. I can definitely see Penny cutting off her friends and family when she gets older and has more personal freedom.
I mean, I come from a Mexican family but that's very real 😂 My mom worked late sometimes and couldn't afford any kind of daycare or sitter so the older siblings watched the younger ones. I didn't get to do too many key moments until I was 18 and moved out
She had to take two toddlers to a museum of all places, and the parents were going to continue to leave her in charge of them when it became very obvious she cannot handle it anymore. It is not safe for her to babysit both children at the same time, especially in a public place. I’m hoping that part of realizing Bebe is autistic is them realizing he is not their daughter’s responsibility.
She also had to risk being late to school to change diapers.
Why do you have to ask permission?
I actually respect LaCienega more than Dijonay because at least LaCienega is up front about not liking Penny and doing her dirty to her face. Dijonay be underhanded with it.
Kids back in the day and I had a code in elementary school that the most people i had the most respect for are the people who disliked me up front about it than the people who are actually stabbing me in the back behind closed doors. Now these days people want friends just to make friends for the sake of it it isnt genuine.
I see LaCienega as a precursor to Jade West from Victorious. She's not quite friends with the protagonist, but she shares a social circle. They'll be cool every now and then, but for the most part, they aren't friends.
LaCienaga at least respects Penny and I think she appreciates it when Penny helps her out like in the first episode of the reboot where Penny helped her with how puberty had affected her looks.
she got that goofy hairline
lookin like a cocnut
I have no respect for either of them. They're both mean girls and I SINCERELY don't know why Penny hangs around them. Also, LaCienega is the type of girl that's a well-spoiled Mexican princess, and has no problem leaving Dijonay behind when she finds the right guy.
Imagine being so bad of a friend that you make freaking Wormtail look better in contrast.
I mean he did kinds redeem himself in Hallows
@@DrakeKnight99 Yeah, but that was because he saw that being on Voldemort's side wasn't doing it for him, so he just moved to whatever was more convenient for his survival. It's really not any different than Snape in that regard. Pettigrew still was a little slimeball at the end of the day. 😅
@@DrakeKnight99 not really
@@DrakeKnight99 yeah kinda
@@DrakeKnight99 Lol no
Dijonay is literally a terrible person and she doesn't seem to get any better in the reboot. Honestly She seems like an obligatory friend, along with the rest of the bunch.
Most of Penny's friend circle seems to just be 'it's these guys or nothing'
and she wonders why sticky left
And sometimes you're better off picking nothing
But that’s so very real for a lot of kids
Who here hates dijoney
@@gxtmfa
It really is, I can relate to that aspect
What's kinda scary is that even Eric Cartman has more redeeming qualities compare to DIjonay and we're usually not suppose root for Cartman.
Wait what?! How?!
i'm gonna have to disagree, cartman is 100x worse than dijonay ..
Hes most likely referring to the return of covid movie.
No.
The writers don't pretend Cartman isn't a terrible person, but he actually has principles and a sense of honor unlike Dijonay.
"Adventures in Bebesitting" had probably the most toxic reasoning from Penny to validate their friendship. It's basically along the lines of "we're best friends because even though I can't trust you, I can trust the fact that you will always be untrustworthy." "It's so not right that I don't even know if I wrote it down properly. I love the show very much, but that's not a good message for anyone to take cues from.
Even as a kid watching the episode, the ending never felt right to me. I mean, there’s accepting that your friend isn’t perfect, but accepting that your friend is not someone you can trust and rely on, not only is that totally different, but it’s definitely NOT OK!
A better ending would have involved Dijonay missing the concert because Penny doesn’t go back for her. A week passes by before Penny talks to Dijonay again, and she tells her that’s she’s sick of her taking advantage of their friendship and lying to her. Penny warns Dijonay that if she pulls another stunt, then their friendship is over for real. This way, Dijonay not only would get consequences (missing the concert while everyone else had fun!), but she knows that her staying friends with Penny all depends on whether or not she works at being a better friend to her.
I guess they were heading towards “better the devil you know” logic, but like…for a moral lesson? And if they absolutely had to do that, surely it would make more sense with the bullies than her actual friends?
cause they would of been called racists
It really speaks to Penny's character how she forgives Dijonya every time but there's so much one can take till they cut someone so toxic out of their life
I know right?
I sort of just though the proud family is eh in hindsight as far as 2000's Disney cartoons go. Always preferred recess and the underrated Filmore
I'm irritated at the fact Penny has to be the one who should apologize and show she's the one in the wrong.
Speaks to how much of a dumb ass Penny is.
Glad I realized my ex best friend was a Dijonya. She would make me feel bad & I think I was in the wrong for reaching out to her. When I posted something sad this week. She messaged me the only time I posted about it. Like girl acting like she didn’t have other times to apologize if she wanted to rebuild the friendship. Nah I’m glad she cut the line first and that I found way better people
I knew some male Dijonay friends I don't talk to anymore. Lets just say her character is trait that holds no sexes.
Exactly 💯💯💯💯
Yep, trash knows no gender 💀
Yes but nowhere in the video was it stated that this is an explicitly female trait.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 it is called an opinion, Mermaid. Just relating with the video and the topic.
@@LowellLucasJr. alr whatevs 😒
Wow. I had forgotten just how bad of a friend Dijonay really was 😂
She's worse in the reboot
Same
The writers really did make her an awful stereotype, which sucked because representation was so hard to come by back then, especially for dark skin black girls.
Are you black?
Colorism is kind of a huge problem of The Proud Family
Yes!!!
No fr, they made her the black ratchet girl bestfriend that will talk behind your back, throw you under the buss if it benefits them, or sneaky friend that wants your boyfriend 😭
Exactly
I will forever stand by what Suga Mama said about Dijonay.
"She's faker than your fake friends."
Faker than the food in food comercials
I remember asking myself as a kid, "why is Penny friends with her!?" She was really mean, she always was flaking on her, she was creepy with sticky, there's no talking to her! She's gonna do what she's gonna do no matter who she hurts, or how she makes Penny feel! I wanna at least see how they became friends in the first place! Like if once dijonay did something really cool or sincere or solid for Penny when they were younger, something that would justify the amount of patience penny gives her. But I can't remember a single episode that redeems her character. She's basically Ponyhead from Star vs the forces of evil! I remember that the dijonay centric episodes were the ones that made me so frustrated I had to change the channel, cause who wants to watch penny keep getting walked all over by a "friend" that treats her like a used napkin!?
I could never get into this show. The way Oscar got treated was too extreme for me. I can't stand Suga Mama and how the show downplays the fact that she's an abusive parent.
As cool and as supportive a grandma she is to Penny, Suga Mama is a terrible mother to Oscar and Bobby (coddling him did not help much)! My guess as to why the rest of the family doesn’t call out Suga Mama for her mistreatment of Oscar is because they don’t want to deal with her when she’s mad.
Suga Mama reminds me of a character from King of the Hill. Cotton Hill was also a loving grandparent but an abusive parent to his son, Hank. Even as adults, Oscar and Hank both tried to gain their respective parent’s love and affection, but their parents constantly rejected them and refused to try and be better parents.
@@StarViewer68its a similar situation to Eustace from Courage the Cowardly Dog. Main reason he’s such a cranky guy in nearly episode is because of how he was treated by his entire family, especially the mom. His mother always compared him to his older brother (who never even appeared in the show) and constantly made fun of him. No matter what Eustace did, he could never earn his mother’s love or respect, and despite I kinda hate Eustace because of how mean and always bullying Courage, you understand a little better why he is the way he is.
I never watched a lot of the Proud Family to really see how Suga Mama treated Oscar, aside bullying him to stop Penny from doing certain things with her friends.
Honestly, looking back at the Proud Family, it really does seem like everyone is just kind of a terrible person. Like, all of Penny's friends are absolutely fake as all hell, and the show still treats them like they're family to her. Penny's loyalty and trust in people who, time and again, verbally and emotionally abuse her make her come across as willfully naiive than a girl just learning how to get through life.
The only one out of Penny's friends that was the most loyal. (And it's a low bar to meet) was Sticky. But even he came off as rude or flaky at worst.
Honestly, I despise Dijonay in the OG (Same for Zoey and Lacienega, but honesty Lacienega is my most hated). While I personally think she got somewhat better in the revival (if you haven't seen episode 4, which was terrible and felt on the nose about its aesop) I really think she needs more character development and moments when she gets called out and learns a lesson
Zoey is the only one I like because she's the only one who didn't really do anything terrible to her. I mean, the worst she's done was leave her behind, but that's nothing compared to what Dijonay or LasCienega has done.
Also, episode four is genuinely a great episode because it did a good job with displaying the different reactions people can have when they find out about a same sex couple.
Aaaaaaand I'm not quite sure what Aesop has to do with this.
@@joelblake5310I think by Aesop, they meant like the moral. Cuz u know aesops fables always have a moral
She honestly gets SO MUCH WORSE in the 2 season (especially in episode 6, how she treats Zoe was so infuriating, I say the same for the rest of the group but she was the worst)
Speaking of which, I hope the reboot can dive into Oscar's history more. Granted, it's stated Suga Mama's harder on him due to him having a better chance than Bobby but where did she get to thinking that? Was it before or after the death her husband? And was Proud Snacks really an old family recipe Oscar learned from his dad but just has difficulty replicating it?
Yesss 🥹
Kinda weird since (in the reboot) Bobby told Penny he went to college and became drum major. It’s highly unlikely Bobby’d be allowed to even audition for such a role until his 3rd year, so he clearly had good enough grades to get that far.
I'd really hope Oscar and his mom somewhat improve their relationship because that is a trait of the original that still bothers me. His own mom I don't think ever cut him slack unless it's an episode I missed.
When Dijonay abandoned Penny with not only the twins, but all of her siblings, to go to a concert, that was the tipping point for me. The fact that Penny still took her back as her friend really surprised me. Nowadays that would’ve warranted Dijonay’s character to either be written off or pushed back to secondary bc people now know we don’t have to keep our friend circles big just for the sake of saying we have friends. As a generation, we cut off family, friends, partners, even jobs that don’t work out for us to make room for bigger and better things. Maybe Penny should consider that.
Dijonay kinda reminds me of Chloe Price from Life is Strange. A unlikable fake friend who we’re supposed to like because the main character is friends with them and the main character doesn’t confront them about their bad actions.
(And before you say it, because there’s always that ONE person who says it, NO! I don’t hate Chloe because she’s LGBT, I hate Chloe because she’s a terrible person who does awful things.)
Oh she is just the worst
Manga Kamen did a video comparing Akiza to Chloe. It's pretty good
One example of the bad things she does from my memory is telling her step dad that the pot she had was Max’s pot. Didn’t even hesitate to pin the blame on her bestie. Even if you do go with it it gives the step dad something to counter her when you tell the principal about what he did earlier. Which was harassing one girl possibly thinking she was a delinquent.
Woah sadly i only got to play episode 1 of life is strange. How bad did chloe become and why did she mistreat max :(
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It’s interesting/off putting that some shows in the 2000’s had the friends that make you wonder why the main characters hang out with them. Dijonay, Jake Spidermonkey from My Gym Partner’s a Monkey, Craig from Out of Jimmy’s Head, Gus from Robotboy, Patrick during SpongeBob’s seasonal rot. Maybe they saw Cartman from South Park be the same thing and thought they could do that too. The difference being that Cartman isn’t supposed to be in the right or rooted for most of the time and whenever he wins either Kyle or everyone else will be aware of how bad he is.
Not to mention Cartman would get what he deserved even if it was small.
At least Jake had the excuse of having a crush on Adam.....I think? That's how it came off to me with how flippant-yet-clingy he can be.
I disagree with you about Partrick. Spongebob and Patrick only got into spats on occasion.
Same with Eddy and Mandy.
Was Jake really that bad? Maybe Bloo I think could be better put in that list. Jake, at most, was mischievous
Thankfully the reboot has greatly improved Dijonay. Instead of being a backstabber, she's just a snitch (but not on Penny).
She did let her sisters steal Penny's uncle's car
She outed a married gay couple causing their children whom she is friends with to get bullied. Not much of an improvement
No it doesn't, she still the same...
@@petramoore9462 I only watched clips, but keep in mind one of those friends is the new guy who Dijonay replaced Sticky with, and she had the nerve to ask Penny to slide KG her phone number
@@emeraldparadox1001 she sucks
Good video. Dijonay got worse in louder and prouder. They turned her into a snitch and basically put her friends under the bus.
I mean to be fair she at least doesn't throw penny under the bus constantly.
Instead she's a gossip thot who spreads shit around like wildfire
Nothing new lol, she's always been like that
I know Dijonay is at the bottom of my list. I'll never forget the time she invited boys to Penny's sleepover, and got Penny in trouble, not the time she went to a concert and left Penny to babysit her siblings. It's clear, Dijonay only cares about what she wants, not who she hurts in the process.
Dijonay is basically the black version of Dodie Bishop from As Told by Ginger. A false friend who will always stab Penny in the back whenever given the opportunity. It's a wonder why Penny and Ginger still hang out with either one of them.
Except Dijonay's mom wasn't a total Karen like Dodie's mom
YOOOO I was just about to say that she was conniving ASF
Wow. I just watched both shows, and you're absolutely right! Right down to having the same blonde hairstyle, they are pretty similar to each other in terms of personality and "friendship". I always hated Dodie too.
Proud family really played into the stereotype of the “dark” friend being ghetto loud struggling chubby and from a messed up home…….
Now this is what I like to call rasism
@@Chozen735 no, they’re absolutely right. They played into a really colorist stereotype for this character, which is why it’s so disappointing that she’s the most hated character. Just another reason to hate a dark skinned black girl. I really hope they do more with her character next season on the new show. I want her to be loved. I want her to be lovable.
@@trinityoneal4149 me to
@@trinityoneal4149if anyone hates dark girls because of her they just hate dark girls. She doesn't rep all of us so🤷🏾♀️
@@ShaiLaiExactly.