@@themahoneymine Yeah it’s something, I don’t know what. I was told those pins have 17% gold in them. I am going to see if I can separate the two materials by smelting it again and pouring it out very slowly. If not, I will have to use some acids to separate the materials.
If there is gold there, it is still there. It just didn't separate from the other metals. You removed a lot of the contaminants the first time, a re-smelt should get you closer. You may still end up with an alloy of gold/silver in the button.
I’m having the same problems with my concentrates, I’ve tried everything but alas still no shiny gold button at the end…the refiners won’t buy it either because XRF only scans so far into the button, gold tends to migrate to the middle of the button if you let it cool slowly so the outer most visable part of the “dore” is a coating of the most impure parts. Try soaking the dore ingots in strong acid for a short time (filter acid after as particles of gold may “break off” as the impurities are oxidised or dissolve)
@@OnlyPansProspecting Thank you for your insight. I deeply appreciate it. I had a couple of people instruct me to smelt it again as that will eliminate more of the base metals. Also, the individuals who gave me these CPU pins have given me a powder concentrate of the same material that they soaked in their acid solution. Hopefully I can smelt it tomorrow after work. Please feel free to give me any suggestions you might have, I would appreciate it. Thank you for joining us and giving me your wisdom. Take care.
@@BiggestKevGold Thanks mate. One of my very first subscribers recommended that I smelt it again. He’s very knowledgeable in this and in using acids to separate gold from base metals. He mentioned that my first smelt removed a lot of the base metals so smelting it again should remove more base metals and get closer to getting the gold. We’ll see 😳
Something does look off. Haven't tried yet, but I've seen others. The cone they add something that contains lead (not awake yet) and puts the two in a cupala in an electric oven.
Hey Earnie, you should get your precious metal/lead bead, a base metal layer, a matte, and then the slag layer out of the cone mold. It looks like it didnt get quite hot enough to get everything entirely molten with that big stick of rebar in there. Id suggest you use copper as your collector metal instead of the rebar since it has a lower melting point and a better affinity for amalgamating with gold and silver. Unless you are going after platinum and know you can for sure get to 3900 degrees for that I would avoid the steel. The entire point of the litharge is to lower the melting point of the precious metals and so you dont want to set your charge up with anything over the melting point of 24k gold.
@ Hi ladies, thank you! I’m going to need to think on this as it is a little over my head lol 😂 I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me. Do you two get to the Reno, Nevada area?
@@ErnieDionne was thinking of Leag oxide...lethargic or Galina in an electric oven with flux. In a ceramic crucible. Final melting shouldn't be in propane furnace. Agree with the big iron rod...see people use smaller nails
@@josephdelp87 Thank you. That’s what the High Litharge with Flour is for. It’s a lead oxide. I appreciate your input. It was mentioned to repeat the process to remove more of the base metals. What do you think? I’m going to smelt it again, I guess we’ll find out. Thank you for joining us, we appreciate you being here. Take care. 🤗
Pretty cool looking button either way. Thanks Ernie!💪🫏
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@@AquaDonkeyProspecting You’re welcome brother. Yes, it does look cool. Thank you for being with us 🤗
Interesting, possibly you will need to add more oxidative to your flux mix to breakdown the base metals.
@@jamesculver829 Thanks JC, I’ll give it a try. Take care 💪🏻
Veri nice Sar ji good work thankyou ji
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@@sureshjisoni7714 You’re welcome my friend. Thank you for joining us. Take care.
You said the gold looking material poured out last. Is there a possibility the pins don't have gold? It could be a copper knock off or something?
@@themahoneymine Yeah it’s something, I don’t know what. I was told those pins have 17% gold in them. I am going to see if I can separate the two materials by smelting it again and pouring it out very slowly. If not, I will have to use some acids to separate the materials.
If there is gold there, it is still there. It just didn't separate from the other metals. You removed a lot of the contaminants the first time, a re-smelt should get you closer. You may still end up with an alloy of gold/silver in the button.
@@grantlucas2012 Thank you Grant, I was desperately waiting for your reply. May I use your name on the next video? Thank you my friend 💪🏻
I’m having the same problems with my concentrates, I’ve tried everything but alas still no shiny gold button at the end…the refiners won’t buy it either because XRF only scans so far into the button, gold tends to migrate to the middle of the button if you let it cool slowly so the outer most visable part of the “dore” is a coating of the most impure parts.
Try soaking the dore ingots in strong acid for a short time (filter acid after as particles of gold may “break off” as the impurities are oxidised or dissolve)
@@OnlyPansProspecting Thank you for your insight. I deeply appreciate it. I had a couple of people instruct me to smelt it again as that will eliminate more of the base metals. Also, the individuals who gave me these CPU pins have given me a powder concentrate of the same material that they soaked in their acid solution. Hopefully I can smelt it tomorrow after work. Please feel free to give me any suggestions you might have, I would appreciate it. Thank you for joining us and giving me your wisdom. Take care.
G'Day Ernie, Mate you did a better job than my last attempt 😂 Keep trying buddy don't give up. Take care my friend 👍👍 Cheers Kev
@@BiggestKevGold Thanks mate. One of my very first subscribers recommended that I smelt it again. He’s very knowledgeable in this and in using acids to separate gold from base metals. He mentioned that my first smelt removed a lot of the base metals so smelting it again should remove more base metals and get closer to getting the gold. We’ll see 😳
@@ErnieDionne Good idea 👍 I will watch your next video and see what happens, I'm interested 👍👍 Cheers Kev
@ Thank you my brother 💪🏻
Something does look off. Haven't tried yet, but I've seen others. The cone they add something that contains lead (not awake yet) and puts the two in a cupala in an electric oven.
@@a3skywarrior929 It was recommended I add more oxidizers to melt away the base metals. I thought of the same thing, what do you think?
Hey Earnie, you should get your precious metal/lead bead, a base metal layer, a matte, and then the slag layer out of the cone mold. It looks like it didnt get quite hot enough to get everything entirely molten with that big stick of rebar in there. Id suggest you use copper as your collector metal instead of the rebar since it has a lower melting point and a better affinity for amalgamating with gold and silver. Unless you are going after platinum and know you can for sure get to 3900 degrees for that I would avoid the steel. The entire point of the litharge is to lower the melting point of the precious metals and so you dont want to set your charge up with anything over the melting point of 24k gold.
@ Hi ladies, thank you! I’m going to need to think on this as it is a little over my head lol 😂 I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me. Do you two get to the Reno, Nevada area?
@@ErnieDionne was thinking of Leag oxide...lethargic or Galina in an electric oven with flux. In a ceramic crucible.
Final melting shouldn't be in propane furnace.
Agree with the big iron rod...see people use smaller nails
@ Thank you. Unfortunately I don’t have an oven so my propane furnace will have to suffice for now.
Need lead as a collector metal.
@@josephdelp87 Thank you. That’s what the High Litharge with Flour is for. It’s a lead oxide. I appreciate your input. It was mentioned to repeat the process to remove more of the base metals. What do you think? I’m going to smelt it again, I guess we’ll find out. Thank you for joining us, we appreciate you being here. Take care. 🤗
You just made you work harder. Use acid instead of just making a more complicated alloy.
@@daniel-qh4zq Yes, thank you. As I said in the video I didn’t want to use acid. Take care my friend 🤗
A for effort keep on smelting!
@@mykos44 Thank you my brother 💪🏻