Gold MBMMLLC ,Jason's Ore , unexpected results

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @FASKY2788
    @FASKY2788 3 дня назад +8

    Well, you've reinforced, and cleared up some methods for me. I truly appreciate your efforts, sharing and info. Tough to get a response/comment from my fellow Wisconsinite, Flour Gold Wizards!!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад +3

      G'day FASKY , Well , i think i'm a bit more enlightened now also . Apparently Jason had the same problem with gold sticking to nails in a charge that weren't consumed in the smelt . Now apparently you don't need to use steel nails if your ore is roasted ( Oxidized ) but if your roast was not complete then they might help to chew up any remaining sulphur , i think !!! But knowing just how many to use is the thing . In a comment posted by a viewer , he said Gold rides an Iron Bar , lol , 😂 Yeah , funny thing he was referring to that old saying ( Gold rides an Iron Horse ) That is true , i think then it became obvious as to why the gold is attracted to the Iron Rod as Gold is often associated with Iron in nature . Funny thing , i panned out some remaining roasted ore i had leftover and it contained considerable visible gold . So i think in future i am just going to roast it and pan it out to recover the gold . We shall see !!! Thanks for watching Buddy 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @nickitoff9629
    @nickitoff9629 3 дня назад +6

    Was really excited to see you finish with Jason's ore. I'm just getting into smelting, so its important for me to learn from your videos. Thank you for sharing!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      G'day Nickitoff, Well thankyou for watching my friend . We are all learning from one another , that's the name of the game . I am no expert by any means , but the more we try the more we learn from our mistakes . Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍it is appreciated . Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @Graham_OntheGoldagain
    @Graham_OntheGoldagain 3 дня назад +12

    Gold rides an iron bar 😂. Interesting vid 👍

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +2

      Haha ha ha , yes that's true Graham , i guess that's what happened . Thanks for watching mate . 👍👍Cheers Ned ✌

  • @FlourgoldWizards
    @FlourgoldWizards 3 дня назад +21

    Well I’ll bead….. 🤣🍻👍🏻

  • @GSProspecting
    @GSProspecting 3 дня назад +7

    Looking good indeed fam. Keep on having fun and living the dream. Gold Squad Out 🤠

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Thanks Brother for your support 👍👍 Cheers Ned ✌

  • @SCPadventures1776
    @SCPadventures1776 4 дня назад +7

    Hello Ned, always enjoy watching these kinds of passion. 😅

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +2

      G'day Brother , i'm glad you found it interesting . I hope you were able to get out yesterday and hunt some shiny with a few friends 👍👍 Cheers Bro , take care .👍👍 Cheers Ned ✌.

    • @SCPadventures1776
      @SCPadventures1776 3 дня назад +2

      @@GrooberNedJardine I bailed still feeling weak from the illness. Going out in morning Sunday. I will throw you on for support and cool you down some in the 19* 🏔️ lol

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      @@SCPadventures1776 G'day Bro , well , that's too Bad you had to bail . Good luck Tomorrow , heavy pans , and thanks for the support Champion . 👍👍

  • @AMProspecting
    @AMProspecting 3 дня назад +6

    Great video Ned. If we do not try tings we would never know..we are hunters and gatherers. Well have a great weekend brother!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      G'day Mark , yes , we gotta gives things a go , it's the only way to know , is learn the hard way , lol 🤣I hope you have a great weekend too Brother , Cheers my friend .👍👍

  • @mineoperator
    @mineoperator 7 часов назад +1

    Awesome Ned, thanks for doing this test!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 часа назад

      No worries mate , i hope we all learned something from it . I know i did . 👍👍Thanks for watching Buddy . ✌

  • @YourDailyVideoNews
    @YourDailyVideoNews 3 дня назад +3

    Great video. Thanks for letting us learn with you 👍👍

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      No worries !! Thanks for coming along for the ride 👍👍 Cheers Ned ✌

  • @enochmetatronmelchizedek3508
    @enochmetatronmelchizedek3508 3 дня назад +5

    Spray W1040 in your metal mold before pouring. Won't need to beat with the hammer. Hope all is Blessed for you and your family.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад

      G'day Enoch , yes my friend , i did not have any WD Spray , i just used Canola spray , lol , 🤣 i thought i was cooking fries , 👍👍 Thanks for the Tip Buddy 👌. Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @twoc400s5
    @twoc400s5 День назад +1

    I've often thought about building my own smelting furnace to do cleanups, especially after watching Jason at MBMM.
    Thank you for helping to dissuade me😅😅

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад +1

      Ha ha haha Well , i'm glad i could be of service to you 👍👍Thanks for watching , Cheers . ✌

  • @pgsharrow3714
    @pgsharrow3714 5 часов назад +1

    LOL, you brazed that Iron rod ! If you get the Iron hot enough it will reject the braze, probably should scrap or file the braze off of the iron and re melt or chemically refine is what I would do. good luck to you.

  • @Smithsgold
    @Smithsgold 3 дня назад +8

    Sweet !!!!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Thanks Jeff , it was a tough hot day , good winter work , not summer . Cheers Buddy . 👍

  • @ManMountainMetals
    @ManMountainMetals 3 дня назад +4

    Acid peroxide solution would eat out the iron, and the gold foils would peel off after a bit of soaking.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +2

      Hmmm , OK , Thanks for the advice Buddy 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

    • @PogueMahone1
      @PogueMahone1 21 час назад +1

      @@GrooberNedJardine I'd go with the MAPP gas...less messy.
      Also, you may want to heat up that iron stirring bar as the metals seemed to freeze on the colder surface -- I prefer using graphite or graphite coated rods.

    • @joshcooper5323
      @joshcooper5323 16 часов назад +1

      Galvanized on the iron bar?

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  14 часов назад

      @@joshcooper5323 G'day Josh , do you mean , was the bar a Galvanized bar , the answer is No . If you mean it Galvanized onto the steel bar , yes i suppose it did , like plating it . 👍👍 Cheers

  • @MeteorMacX
    @MeteorMacX 3 дня назад +1

    Brilliant stuff....great Sunday watching with a brew

  • @nunyabisnass1141
    @nunyabisnass1141 3 дня назад +4

    I thought about it and i have no idea. At first i thought the gold/lead alloy was just wetting the iron, sticking to whatever oxide layer was on it, but thinking more on it that's too much metal to just be a stuck coating.
    So maybe the iron bar was too much of a heat sink and too little volume of slag, ao it froze to it. I dont really know.

  • @themahoneymine
    @themahoneymine День назад +1

    Great video! Wish we had such good info when we were learning what to do with our ore. Great job sir!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад +1

      G'day Mahoney mine , well , we are all learning from one another of what to do , and what not to do . Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍Cheers Ned ✌ PS , I am subbed to your Great Channel 👍👍keep up the good work ✔

    • @themahoneymine
      @themahoneymine 23 часа назад

      @GrooberNedJardine - you rock!

  • @ProspectorTripp
    @ProspectorTripp 3 дня назад +3

    Gday, Nev. I think you did very well. 👍
    I've watched mbmm's Jason smelting many many times. It's not as easy as one might first think. I believe you made good progress. I have failed so many times but always learned "what not to do" 😂
    You got a bit of shiny and also a ton of knowledge! SCORE!
    Well I better go.. my furnace decided to give up the ghost last night.. "of course it's the coldest day so far this year" 😆 🤣 😂 Somehow that's when things go kafluie. No worries 👍 it's LEARNING TIME for me.. again! Praise God Almighty! 😊 I am so thankful for this furnace learning opportunity!
    I enjoyed your video much my friend.
    Stay Golden pal
    Peace Prospector Tripp

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Thanks Matt , yes , that seems to be the way , to learn what NOT to do each step . lol , It's Also Dangerous stuff , and i always think about that famous Quote , A little Knowledge can be a Dangerous thing , end Quote . no body wants to become a statistic , that haunts me !!! . I just hope and pray all goes well . I hope you can get your heat back real soon Brother , don't want you freezing over there 🥶Brrrrrrr . Take care Buddy and stay safe . 👍👍

    • @ProspectorTripp
      @ProspectorTripp 2 дня назад +2

      Furnace was okay.. I reset my homes, two 6kw solar inverters, and we are Golden 🤣
      That seems to be the norm with most electronics and varrious computing devices.
      Every so often..
      Place the on-off switch to the off position, wait 15 seconds, then back to the on position 😆 boom.. we are cooking again.
      You are updated 😁

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      @@ProspectorTripp Ahh that's great Matt , just needed a reset , just like me occasionally need to turn off and then come back online A Ripper Matt . i still got your video to catch up on too , Cheers Brother 👍👍

  • @hardrockuniversity7283
    @hardrockuniversity7283 3 дня назад +4

    I wonder if the gold PLATED the iron rod or WETTED the iron rod?
    I would have cut the end of the rod off and dissolved the iron in acid. I hate inconclusive results.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +3

      G'day Keith , yeah , i placed the end of the Rod in the Poor mans Aqua Regia solution i had left over from my gold foil video , overnight and it appears that it is gone into that solution which turned Black instead of Green which it was at the start . Funny thing though i just panned out the remaining roasted ore i did , about , say 100 grams and it had a considerable amount of gold in it . So i am thinking that i will just roast it and pan it out and then melt the Gold . Seems much easier and less expensive . Well you live and learn i guess . lol , 🤣 Fun n games . Cheers Bro . 👍👍

    • @hardrockuniversity7283
      @hardrockuniversity7283 3 дня назад +2

      Sounds like a plan.

  • @jamesculver829
    @jamesculver829 3 дня назад +6

    Did you have the bar in the whole time or did you put it in cold?

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +2

      G'day James , Ahh when i saw it was a bit thick and crusty on the top at the start i used the bar to break it up a bit and help it along , i thought all the time worrying that i would run out of Gas . And then i left it in for a while and then i stirred it for a while . So it was in there for a good while . And i know you add iron nails if your sulphides are un roasted , so i didn't see any harm in it thinking it might consume any un roasted sulphur . And there may have been a possibility of cross contamination , as i had used that bar on other smelts before but did not notice any visible metals on it initially . Anyway , we live and learn , that's what its all about Buddy . 👍👍Thanks for watching and commenting . Cheers Ned ✌

    • @jamesculver829
      @jamesculver829 3 дня назад +2

      @GrooberNedJardine Anytime, brother. I'm gonna start doing some hot work myself. And have been studying up on it. I'm sure I'll mess up a lot before I try any video. 🤣

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +3

      @@jamesculver829 Win or fail it don't matter , just gotta give it a go mate . 👍👍 Cheers .

    • @andrewfrancis3591
      @andrewfrancis3591 3 дня назад +2

      @@GrooberNedJardine I think you are getting there mate.
      I recon the bar is acting like a heat sink.
      Cut it shorter,or use iron nails.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +2

      @@andrewfrancis3591 Yep Andrew , after thinking about it , if i had used a few nails they would have been eaten up and the gold would have remained in the crucible ,i reckon . 👍 Live and learn aye , lol 😂 Anyway , Thanks for your comment sir ,it is appreciated . 👍👍Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @Janezhallam
    @Janezhallam 3 дня назад +4

    Ever tried portland cement as a cupel ? Thanks for the video Ned. Made My day. You did well.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +3

      G'day Janezhallam . Yes , i have tried the dry cement cupel , and i may even try it on this stuff too . It worked OK , but according to Keith Bowen from Hardrock University Channel , he suggests to melt a little lead in it first before you put the lead prill in it , he says they work better that way , so might be worth a try . Anyway , thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍Cheers ✌

  • @rastaralph7154
    @rastaralph7154 3 дня назад +5

    Jason usually puts iron nails in but I don't remember what it does 👍💚💛❤️

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Yes , that is correct . if i had of put say 6 steel nails in the charge , probably would have been better than the iron bar , because it would have eaten them up and the Gold would have remained in the crucible . 👍👍Hopefully !!! Cheers Buddy . ✌

    • @wageslaveuranus9596
      @wageslaveuranus9596 3 дня назад +2

      The iron eats the sulfides , It isn't needed for a roasted (oxidized) smelt. I was wondering if iron is the best collector because it is non toxic. Frying pan crucible? Any thoughts?

    • @rastaralph7154
      @rastaralph7154 3 дня назад +2

      @wageslaveuranus9596 and have it spread out thin?

    • @wageslaveuranus9596
      @wageslaveuranus9596 3 дня назад

      @@rastaralph7154 IDK but , instead of this being a p.i.t.a. , We should use this to our advantage. There does appear to be some sort of benifit to this . None, or very little lead to oxidize! The gold/silver will have to be scraped off the iron while its still hot.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      @@wageslaveuranus9596 Yeah , i know the iron wasn't probably needed because the ore was roasted ( Oxidized ) i could have thrown in a few small nails just incase the roast wasn't complete , and they would have been eaten up in the mix hopefully . If you used a steel crucible , which i know some people do , like they use the bottom off a small gas bottle as a crucible , i don't know what would happen . Maybe you would end up with gold plating on the inside of it ? Beats me !!! , i have not tried one before . Anyway , We're all learning off one another hopefully . Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍Cheers Ned ✌

  • @rastaralph7154
    @rastaralph7154 3 дня назад +4

    You lose gold but you gained knowledge and experience 👌💯👍💚💛❤️

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Yes that's it Rastaralph , we gotta keep on learning by our mistakes . Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @outdoorloser4340
    @outdoorloser4340 3 дня назад +1

    Lessons: Dont add iron bar to pre-roasted ore, use collector metal and spray your cone mould with WD-40! Great vid 🍻

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Ha haha That sounds like a plan man 👍 Yep , should have used a collector metal first time round , and no bar , maybe a few nails would have been eaten up in the mix . I had no WD spray so i just used Canola spray ,but they often get stuck because my cone mould is not perfect in the tip . Afterwards i did try to rectify that with the Welder . No worries !! Thanks for watching and commenting mate 👍👍Cheers Ned . ✌

    • @outdoorloser4340
      @outdoorloser4340 3 дня назад +1

      @GrooberNedJardine Jason from MBMLLC actually had that same problem in one of his videos with the gold sticking to the iron and he was also confused, lol. I'm not sure what causes that.

  • @BiggestKev1960
    @BiggestKev1960 3 дня назад +3

    G'Day Ned, Hey Ned well done mate, at least you got a BB 👍 I've replied to your email. All good fun mate 👍👍 Cheers Kev

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад

      Yeah Kev , but in future i am just going to roast it and pan it after what i just panned out of the left over roasted ore was a pleasant surprise of visible gold , indeed . Cheers Mate . 👍

  • @denttech2515
    @denttech2515 2 дня назад +1

    If you switch to a forced air burner, you'd use far less gas, and they burn hotter. Like 80-90% less, if done right. Thanks for sharing

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      Yes , air forced into the furnace would help i'm sure and increase temperature 👍 Cheers , Ned

  • @Alondro77
    @Alondro77 2 дня назад +1

    If you must stir the smelt, always use a graphite rod. To add iron to a small smelt, snip a thin iron nail into bits.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      Yes , that's good advice for sure 👍👍 Cheers ✌

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 2 дня назад +1

      @@GrooberNedJardine I'm lucky in that I just have black sands to test smelt. They've been washed and oxidized from an old glacial moraine for at least 10,000 years! No sulfides at all left over. It'll be a very simple smelt. I'm going to try an idea to blow an air stream directly onto the cupel after the lead prill is melted. I have some ceramic tubes (likely titanium oxide) from a very old hotplate. I can connect a steel tube to the back end, out of the furnace and blow a little stream of air right onto the surface of the molten metal in the cupel. That should speed oxidation of the base metals dramatically. It'd certainly be a lot cheaper than buying an electric furnace.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      @@Alondro77 Sounds like a plan for sure 👍👍,good luck .👌✔

  • @omegageek64
    @omegageek64 День назад +1

    Could the metals just have solidified out on the iron bar because it was (relatively) cold? I always heat my stir bars up to yellow heat before stirring to prevent either metals or slag from solidifying on the end of them. Maybe cut off the tip of the bar with all the metal on it and put it in the crucible with flux and possibly some lead collector and smelt it one more time. I'd think the metal should come off if it gets hot enough. Great video, by the way.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад

      G'day Omegageek , I have watched many of your videos over the years , i like your work pal 👍Thanks for watching my little experiment . Someone made a comment that Gold rides an iron Bar / Horse , he meant , he was just being facetious of course , but it does make sense really . Now , i know the old saying is true in nature often gold is associated with iron , whether that has something to do with the attraction to the iron bar, i don't know . But someone else commented and told me Jason had the same issue on a smelt he did , where the nails he put in the charge were not all consumed but they had gold on them . Instead of using the bar , i should have just thrown in a couple of steel nails and hopefully they would have been consumed in the smelt , hence leaving any precious metals behind in the crucible . Anyway , i soaked the bar end overnight in some old used stock pot Aqua Regia that i have , and next day it was all cleaned up . I will deal with that stuff Another day, in the future . OK . Well again , Thanks for watching and commenting Buddy , it is much appreciated 👍👍keep up the great work 👌. Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @andypandyAU.6669
    @andypandyAU.6669 3 дня назад +3

    Well , I dont know what to say or think..... I'll say good effort ( a learning experience) , I think I will stick to to alluvial gold. Even with Mercury having to be retorted seems easier. 😂 Great watching you in your PPE , mask , gloves , safety boots and fire proof pants 😮
    Awesome learning something, cheers Andy PPA 👍

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Hahaha you like my safety equipment Andy . Well it was that fricken hot i was willing to take my chances mate lol . Definitely a winter time job . Yes , it's just about learning different things , i'm no expert by any means and you never want to become a statistic , i always think about that old saying , Quote : A little knowledge can be a Dangerous thing , It often Haunts me !!! Anyway , thanks for your support , and keep it safe out there Bud 👍👍 Cheers Ned .

    • @andypandyAU.6669
      @andypandyAU.6669 3 дня назад +1

      @GrooberNedJardine you too mate, stay safe and enjoy what ever your doing

  • @norandois
    @norandois 2 дня назад +1

    The worst part is crushing all the ore to finest powder, and panning to a decent reduction to sulphide, but the best is roast the sulphide and pan again to get all the gold with lesser impurities, I done similar thing by smelting straight sulphide and gold, I have big loss as well and matte formation will change the gold alloy as well. its tricky without mercury but defenetely spend time on panning well roasted sulphide!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад +1

      Yes , I panned the crushed Ore 3 times before i was happy with the amount of sulphides I recovered . It is very difficult to get them all , even when you are extremely careful . Next time i am only going to roast the concentrated Sulphides and then pan it out to recover as much gold as i can . Anyway , Thanks for watching and Commenting 👍👍. Cheers Ned . ✌

    • @norandois
      @norandois 21 час назад +1

      @ its a pleasure my friend! Cheer!

  • @jamesriggsdds2337
    @jamesriggsdds2337 2 дня назад +1

    Spray something like WD-40 into your mold before pour in the melt. Once cooled it pops right out!
    You always tend to lose collector metal when processing so your prill will generally be lighter in weight. Put the button in a cupel and see what you get. Unless the ore is extremely rich in gold you won’t get much out of a 100 gram sample. Then extrapolate out to get grams per ton

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      Yeah , i had no WD Spray so i used Canola spray , but the tip of my mould is not real perfect inside , so i fixed it up a bit with the welder after this . Sometimes i have gained weight in a lead prill and i know sometimes they lose weight . i believe another guys Channel who i watched Orophilia did just that , he assayed Jasons ore and arrived at a conclusion of around 5 grams per metric tonne , but of course the samples we get are always open to a wide interpretation of his mine as a whole .Anyway thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍 Cheers mate .

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад +1

    It's 3 to one on your Flux. Use the white Flux if you want to save the silver, black will shed the silver and leave only gold. Pour into a conical mold and add a collector metalije bismuth. Your gold will be at the top. Your done 😮

  • @getdownanddirtyprospecting
    @getdownanddirtyprospecting 3 дня назад +3

    Thanks Ned i.m still trying to learn lol

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +2

      G'day Glenn , we are all learning from one another mate , lol , 🤣That is one good thing about social media i suppose . 👍👍 I see you got a vid up , i will check it out shortly Bud . Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @VendettaProspecting
    @VendettaProspecting 3 дня назад +3

    Well Ned that was a trip! I’ve never seen an iron bar do that before, maybe something in the alloy caused it? Nice show nonetheless

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад +1

      Well , glad you came along for the Ride Mike 👍👍 Funny thing , one of the comments i received i think hit the nail on the head . ( Gold rides an Iron Bar / Horse ) which makes sense really , because in nature gold is often associated with iron . It was all good fun and we all learn stuff from one another , which is great mate . Anyway , thanks for watching and comment 👍👍It is much appreciated . Cheers Ned .✌

    • @VendettaProspecting
      @VendettaProspecting 2 дня назад +1

      @ 🤣 true saying there Ned! Happy holidays

  • @zzINSANETYzz
    @zzINSANETYzz 2 дня назад +1

    Been having a pain smelting my own refractory ore as well. There is very title free gold in it but I’ve tried roasting a few times and doesn’t seem to do any good. Didn’t know you should add iron nails to sulphide ore so maybe I’ll try that next time. Hopefully the gold doesn’t attach to the iron nails or bar like yours lol

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      Some refractory ores are no good without expensive pre treatment . You should only need steel nails in the charge if the ore is un roasted , However if the roast was in complete they would help to consume some un burned sulphur . If i had only used a few nails like say 4 or 5 , they would have been eaten up in the mix and the gold would have remained in the crucible . But because the bar is very thick it just ate into it and gold plated it . Anyway , good luck with your ore mate . 👍👍Cheers Ned . ✌

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      Ohh ps , temperature range for roasting is wide ranging too , if you're too hot the sulphur atoms can re attach rather than burn off making it very difficult for recovery , i suggest researching some more on roasting temperatures . Cheers Buddy .

  • @humnut01
    @humnut01 3 дня назад +1

    Hi Ned, did you have any trouble getting the ore through customs? I bought a bag of Jason's ore and customs in Brisbane kept it. Congrats on the vids they're always entertaining.

  • @thesurfingprospector6345
    @thesurfingprospector6345 3 дня назад +4

    Holy smoking black beards Batman
    That was a lot of work for just that ay geez
    Ummm I think I stay with the river gold hahahaha
    How’s ya back going Ned .??
    Will be at the river by the 10 th hopefully near the road job ok
    See if you make it up be there for three days
    Cheers 🍻 big ears lol
    CrouchOz

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +3

      G'day Crouch , yes it took me all day on that . But it's not about the gold , it's about learning more about our hobby , that's the fun part of it .lol 😂 Yeah , the backs OK at the moment , so that's good . You are hitting the River on the 10th aye ?, i will see how things go , i am really trying to line up some private property , and private access on that River , my niece's partner owns a large holding on the River and i need to talk with him about gaining access through his land , if he will let me . The creek is gone out there , the old timers trenches is gated off , My secret creek is fenced now , and i don't really like going where the new owners / managers are at the river , really need some new ground . But who knows , might be the only option left . Anyway , we shall see what happens matey . Cheers Bro ,👍👍

  • @brushitoff503
    @brushitoff503 3 дня назад +2

    Ha ha well that was different! Cheers Ned

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      G'day Leo , yes things didn't quiet go according to plan , lol , 🤣but if we keep trying then maybe i will learn something from it 🤞 fingers crossed . Thanks for watching Matey 👍👍 Cheers .

    • @brushitoff503
      @brushitoff503 3 дня назад +1

      @@GrooberNedJardine Well at least you got a Gold Bar out of it ha ha!

  • @Goldhunter7769
    @Goldhunter7769 3 дня назад +2

    Thanks for the video! I almost bought of Jason’s ore but wanted to see a few results videos first. It looks like quite the process to melt it down. It also looks like you have much invested into your smelting operation. Had some gold for sure.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      G'day Gold Hunter 77 , yeah it is more of a hobby of interest for me , and i know it cost a small fortune to freight it to OZ , but i was glad Jason made it available to everyone . Not many would do that , so i'm grateful i could get my hands on some just to have a muck around with it. Thanks for watching and commenting Buddy 👍👍It is appreciated . Cheers Ned . ✌

    • @bigbasil1908
      @bigbasil1908 3 дня назад +1

      You can pan it instead, but make sure to use a drop of washing up liquid in the water to break the surface tension because the gold will be ultra fine and will float if you don't

  • @thanksno4911
    @thanksno4911 3 дня назад +1

    I'm leaning toward panning it down, roasting the cons and doing a chemical extraction. Any thoughts?

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      G'day Thanksno49 , that could be a plan . In future i plan to only roast it and pan it out , because i did that afterwards on a small roasted sample i had left over and it contained considerable visible gold . I guess you could take it one step further , that's up to you . Anyway , it was all good learning experience . Thanks for watching and commenting . 👍👍Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @judeefitch5751
    @judeefitch5751 3 дня назад +1

    It did that to mbmm. He had a video about the gold sticking to his nails that didn't melt.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад

      Aha , well i usually watch Jason ,but i might have missed that one . Yes , if i had only used a couple of nails they might have been eaten up in the mix , and the gold would have stayed in the crucible . Live and learn , that's what it's all about i guess . Thanks for watching 👍👍

  • @EWasteJILL
    @EWasteJILL 3 дня назад +3

    REACTIVITY OF METALS learned the hard way! 😊 So take a LOOK AT METAL REACTIVITY CHART! EVERYTHING ABOVE GOLD, GOLD WILL BOND TO. Use GRAPHITE rod in future. OR........DON'T STIR MIXTURE. 😮 😵‍💫😬 I would refine before melting. Get base metals out, then silver out. Then you only have gold and platinum group metals to deal with. Thank you for showing boo boos. It helps us all from making same mistakes! 💖 from Minnesota 😎

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад +1

      Cheers Buddy 👍 That sounds like sound advice indeed . We can all learn from one another . Thanks for watching mate 👍👍 Cheers Ned

    • @bookman7409
      @bookman7409 22 часа назад +1

      @@GrooberNedJardine To add to what my fellow Minnesotan said about metal reactivity, you might want to check out Sreetips. He chemically refines gold, silver, and on rare occasion, PGMs. It's not your jam, but he talks a lot about the chemistry involved and how metals behave with each other and in reactions. One of the tips of his regarding dissolving karat gold is to first inquart it with Sterling silver to help get it to go into solution better.
      Hope that helps, first-time viewer saying keep on truckin'!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  19 часов назад

      @@bookman7409 G'day Bookman , yes, i have watched various videos of Streetips , he is very informative . I also muck around a bit with computer scrap gold , using Aqua Regia for recovery , i have some success now and again lol 😂 We never stop learning new stuff . Anyway , thanks for watching and commenting . 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @tazyt3388
    @tazyt3388 3 дня назад +2

    I always learn so much from you bro shoulda been a teacher I reckon very cool indeed cheers

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад +1

      G'day Taz , i'm no teacher mate , just learning by mucking around , and hopefully staying in one piece lol ,🤣 Keep on having fun on your journeys Brother 👍👍 Cheers Ned ✌

  • @OGRocker1
    @OGRocker1 День назад +1

    G-day Ned, cheers on the attempt.... New sub....Howdy from the Gold Hill mining district of southwestern Oregon, US ..... Howdy to all my friends that also Sub.... GTSY !

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад

      G'day OG Rocker , Thanks for your kind words my friend , thanks for the sub , and much love to my Brothers in the USA 👍👍 Cheers Ned .✌

  • @Alondro77
    @Alondro77 2 дня назад +2

    You test the fumes by taking a DEEEEEEEP breath! *SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!! COUGH COUGH HACK HACK!!* Ah, there, you see? My lung melted! Still sulfides in there! *dies* X________________________X

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      Yeah , someone else told me that years back . It will definitely kill you if you are not careful . 👍

  • @robpeterson1118
    @robpeterson1118 День назад +1

    You’ve made gold! A gold bar :)

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад

      Haha ha i guess you are right Rob , but not the kind i wanted Thanks for watching Buddy . 👍👍 Cheers Ned ✌

  • @hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542
    @hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542 День назад +1

    Just soak the iron rod in hydrochloric acid and the iron [and copper] will generally dissolve away, leaving just the gold
    Or you can add H2O2 and dissolve everything, then dry that, and then re-roast it and re-melt it.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад

      G'day Hunnybunny , i left the end of the bar in a used stockpot solution of poor mans Aqua Regia overnight and it's now in that solution , so i will deal with it another day . Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @dennishamilton3418
    @dennishamilton3418 17 часов назад +1

    hi mate, great stuff
    bit hot atm for doing that,
    from up the river was it.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  16 часов назад

      G'day Dennis , nice to hear from you mate , hope you're doing well and getting out a bit and getting some shiny . 👌 Yeah , it is far too hot for this now , it's a good wintertime job alright , hence the beers go down well lol, 🤣 This ore i crushed was 30 lbs i bought from Jason of Mount Baker mining and metals MBMMLLC from his new gold mine in Washington state USA . Do you watch his channel ? I did a part one video , where i crushed it up first , etc . Anyway , glad you liked the vid matey , take care Buddy and thanks for watching 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @mrgreenswelding2853
    @mrgreenswelding2853 19 часов назад +1

    How much did it cost you to get it to Australia?

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  18 часов назад

      Ahh , not sure i remember , as it took a while to arrive , but you can check it out on EBAY , They give you the currency conversion and freight costs conversion , and just add them together . I remember the ore was only about , i think about $137 .00 bucks , freight was ridiculous , maybe 3 times that amount , anyway it was a lot of money , but it was worth it , i'm still toying with the ore . Cheers Ned . 👍👍

  • @adampurcell7119
    @adampurcell7119 2 дня назад +1

    How did you get paydirt into Australia?

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      I just bought it and hoped for the best . Customs opened one box , and left their calling card . That was all . That's not to say i couldn't have lost it all . Who knows . It's the same Rock over there as here , we all live in the same planet . If it contained organics or living creatures that might be different , but as far as that goes it's only quartz rock of various sizes . Customs is BS . There has been more environmental breeches and disasters brought into Australia by the CSIRO . , a worthless Bureaucracy .

  • @richardwarnock2789
    @richardwarnock2789 3 дня назад +3

    Gold rides a Iron Horse!!

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      That is correct Richard 👍👍 it all makes obvious sense now , but at the time i could not see it . We are all learning from one another , and that is a good thing 👍👍 Thanks for watching and commenting .👌✔ Cheers ,

  • @oak699
    @oak699 3 дня назад +2

    Looks like you reinvented Fire Guilding on that nail

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад

      G'day Oak , yeah , and if i was trying to do it i probably couldn't have , lol 🤣 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍 Cheers .

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад +1

    U can use Borax also. 3 to 1 ratio by weight.😮

  • @terrybusch5088
    @terrybusch5088 2 дня назад +1

    If you watch Jason's videos he did thee same thing a while back. GO watch that video and see what he did I can't exactly remember.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  2 дня назад

      G'day Terry , Cheers for that mate , i shall see if i can track his video down . i remember he did a smelt on Jeff Williams ore , but i did not think he has processed any of his own from this mine yet . but i could be wrong . Anyway , thanks for the heads up . 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @mandybrown7758
    @mandybrown7758 День назад +1

    Very cool 😊

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  День назад

      G'day Mandy , i'm glad you enjoyed the video , Thanks for watching . 👍👍 Cheers Ned ✌

  • @bobsch-gd6ze
    @bobsch-gd6ze 3 дня назад

    Jason had some interesting results as you.
    One of his smelts had slag that was a deep emerald green similar to yours.
    /Yes, collector metal and iirc he used some bizmuth...

    • @painmt651
      @painmt651 3 дня назад

      Interchangeable with lead for smelting

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    If you add a nail to your smelt the copper will stick to the nail and give you a higher carat weight

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    Dam brother. Your making an easy job hard cook it longer on a higher heat no dark spots in your smelt. At least 20 minutes

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    Add some crushed quartz to stop it from sticking, about 2 table spoons

  • @nordicstacker5706
    @nordicstacker5706 3 дня назад

    It happened to Jason 2 one time but I think it was polarium of Platinum

  • @Janezhallam
    @Janezhallam 3 дня назад +3

    File off and cupel ?

  • @buscandooroartesanalmentes3823
    @buscandooroartesanalmentes3823 3 дня назад +1

    Un vídeo muy interesante saludos desde Colombia 🎉🎉🎉

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      I am glad you found the video interesting Amigo , much love to all my friends in Colombia , hope you are finding much gold . Thanks for your support very much . 👍👍Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @josephknowlton7246
    @josephknowlton7246 3 дня назад +2

    Liked, shared and commented. Far too sciencey n xpensive for me. I’ll stick to water agitation n gravity. Sorry bout yer loss. But a gold staff can b cool. So there’s that🍻🤴🏻🗽 26:05

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      Hahaha , 🤣 Yeah , that's right Joseph , a golden Magicians wand Yes , in future i will just roast and pan this ore out , did some today and was surprised how much gold was in a little bit of left over roasted stuff . Hopefully that will save me time and money . But it was all good fun anyway . Cheers Bro 👍👍 Stay warm .👌

  • @gavinhogg6552
    @gavinhogg6552 3 дня назад +1

    Maybe grind bar put in HCl and re-smelt 🤷‍♂️

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад +1

      G'day Gavin , Yeah , i stuck it overnight in some Poor mans Aqua Regia solution in my stock pot , it removed it all , so it's in there now , for another day . I found that if i just roast this ore and pan it out i get good gold , so i told Kev i will send him some more ore and he can just roast it and pan it out . Anyway , thanks for watching mate 👍👍 and thanks for your support 👌 Cheers Ned . ✌

  • @Eddavids2
    @Eddavids2 3 дня назад

    Same thing Happened to Jason in one of his videos, all the gold stuck to the nails

  • @butziporsche8646
    @butziporsche8646 3 дня назад +1

    Mr. Inbetween assays Jason's ore.

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад

      G'day Butziporche , Thanks for watching and commenting 👍👍 Cheers Ned . ✌

    • @butziporsche8646
      @butziporsche8646 3 дня назад

      @@GrooberNedJardine Great channel! I have several Australian favorites. Black Opal Direct, Cars by Jeff, etc.

  • @martijnehlers9162
    @martijnehlers9162 День назад

    You only loose what you throw away. Keep the slag and keep trying.

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    On small kilns use only map gaso propane won't get hot enough 😂

  • @UberAlphaSirus
    @UberAlphaSirus День назад +1

    so 60g a tonne.

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    When your ore blinks it's done. You can't NOT see it

  • @raisethecolours
    @raisethecolours 3 дня назад +1

    Gold just likes iron😂

  • @brianrourke3722
    @brianrourke3722 3 дня назад

    Sorry Ned, that was painfully to watch. Better luck next time.

  • @michaeladams3500
    @michaeladams3500 3 дня назад

    I did not find any gold in my 3 pounds of ore. not even a piece of fly poop.

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    Your bar was being a collector metal

  • @Janezhallam
    @Janezhallam 3 дня назад +1

    kiln backfired and my beard caught fire so now i shave

    • @GrooberNedJardine
      @GrooberNedJardine  3 дня назад

      Hahaha That is always my worry , that i might go up in flames one day .

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    Dam sounds like I've done this before. Lolololol

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    Double burner forge

  • @boblemon8337
    @boblemon8337 2 дня назад

    You need to be at least 2500 degrees