Part II David Butler & Mike Day | The Ancient Temple and The Sermon on the Mount
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In this episode of the "Ask the Experts Interview Series" the Paul brothers have a discussion with David Butler and Mike Day about the extensive research and study Dave has done to find the plain and precious truths in the scripture to understand the “mysteries” of God.
D. John Butler (Dave) is a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. His training is in law, and he also writes fiction. He has written two books on his finds in the scriptures entitled “Plain and Precious Things” and “The Goodness and The Mysteries”.
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Last night, I took five pages of notes and when part one ended, I literally went, "NOOOOOO!!!!!" hahaha!!!! This has been a FEAST!!!! I haven't even started part two, and I am already freaking out with excitement....LOL
These are the BEST YT videos The Stick of Joseph has done!
Same, can't wait!
I felt the same. I was skeptical at first too but really love this discussion :)
Read the books they are an easy read and not long but man do you chew through the meat, “Where’s the BEEF!” It’s right here baby wow this great stuff
@@TheJanesawthat was 100% my take. The title really threw me off. But when I saw Brother Day in there I knew it must be good.
I'm thinking about going back to church
Do it!
Do it, king 👑 we need you
His arms are continuously outstreched, brother!
I’m fairly active but this makes me want to get my temple recommend for the first time in a decade
temple is dope brother@@mattreedah
🤯 I couldn’t watch both episodes in one sitting. I had my scriptures out, taking notes, pausing, rewinding, re-listening to parts over and over, and I just feasted, hard core! I’m just 3 weeks away from being able to attend the temple again, after a MIGHTY fall from the church in 2018. I’ve been trying to prepare myself in the BEST way possible to once again receive the blessings of the sacrament, Priesthood, and Temple once again, over the past 18 months since my faith has been rekindled. After discovering Mike Day in your previous episodes, I’ve listened to all of the (Mike and Bryce) Talking Scripture episodes from the BOM in 2020, D&C 2021, and I’m in Joshua of the 2022 series, and I just can’t get enough of the WORD. I’m so grateful to be able to catch up all of the come follow me that I missed in my APOSTASY, and for discovering your channel, of which I never miss an episode! You guys rock, keep it up! Thanks!
Welcome back, how great you are studying hard to better understand.
Thank you! @@wendyfoster5579
Matt, thank you so much for sharing your journey! God bless you brother. Incredible courage - glad you're here with us!
My brother, you rock, and you are not alone. I'm so grateful we have Yeshua as our Foundation Stone 💪
Right on! Thank you@@DoctrineofChrist248
I was one of the 5 people who stayed to listen to the end of the 2 videos in one sitting
I think David Butler should definitely go thru the entire Book of Mormon with you. ❤
Agree Dave Butler and Mike Day should have there own series
@@tinysafari1851I like the Paul brothers sitting in to ask the questions or comment for me.
How about once a week with David Butler?
I would love that!
Matt Day too! Seriously amazing guy!
I vote for once a day!
This will forever change the way I see the BOM. Amazing stuff.
The temple ceremony did used to be one very long ceremony. It has only been broken up for convenience. Major insights can be made when you string them all together. It is an enlightening experience to do them back to back.
I totally agree. Sometimes we take a name all the way through the temple from baptism thru sealing and it is such a different/ wonderful experience.
Hey guys, I’m one of the few who hung on through the entire thing and just want to say thank you for sharing. My love of the Savior pushes me to learn everything I can that will help me complete my journey back to the tree. I can’t tell you enough how much I’ve enjoyed each podcast for The Stick of Joseph (even signed up to contribute at the Lehi level), but also I’m a huge fan of Mike’s stuff! I’ve learned so much from listening to Mike and Bryce over the years. I heard Mike talk about Dave some time ago and now I’ve read both of his books. To have all 4 of you in one room together was epic! Thank you!
I just drank from a fire hose streaming with great insights and wisdom. A must-watch, please give me more!
My heart is just burning with excitement and wonder. This makes total sense to me. Why wouldn’t Jesus want to bring all His followers to the highest and holiest way to live in this life? The child birth / straight and narrow way brought me to tears. We are the portals for God and co-creators with Him. The ultimate thing we can do as a woman. Love all of this times a million!!!!
Ya'll better hurry up lol i enjoy these too much. Thank you Paul brothers for recording this and sharing it with all of us, and thank you David Butler and Mike Day for just being Awesome. I appreciate all the additional light and knowledge my brothers in Christ!!
🔥 I’m glad other people are seeing this. The whole point of the temple initiatory is to be prepared to serve in the temple. The first time you go to the temple you go for yourself then every time after you go for the dead, more importantly for your own family so they can partake of the tree of life, symbolically of course.
My mind is blown after watching these two episodes. I will never read these scriptures the same way ever again! Great episodes!
I learned a very little bit of Hebrew as part of a MASA program in Israel years ago, and when we didn’t learn the “typical” irregular verbs first (like “to be”), and when asked why the instructor said, “because they do not exist. And then I remembered “I AM” and wondered what that word is, and was then like it DOES exist! But they are so committed to not taking the Lord’s name in vain that it has been dropped from regular usage in speech.
Makes you think a bit about the next time you start to talk down to yourself, saying “I am __”
Glad to be one of the 4 people that stuck around! 🙌 Great stuff, guys! Thank you!
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Awesome. I've been developing my faith after 20 years being inactive. I was never ordained an elder because I quit going at 17. I now strive for my temple ordinances and my priesthood. This is making it sooooo much more necessary. I've been trying to consume my scriptures. Now I know why I am not getting much more out of them by rereading. Thanks guys. I will become a patreon patron.
@furydoo Your awareness is key. Cling to it. Become perfect.
While working in my gun room, I listened to both episodes, back to back, 4 times ... on 4 different days. After 10 listens, I might absord 50%. Thanks guys. Nice fire hose.
Wow. Wow wow wow wow. So much goodness here. I love seeing the dots connected for the revealed truths the Lord has given us.
Excellent series! Please do more. This should be monthly at least. Thank you!
Now that I’ve seen it, I will not be able to unsee it!
My heart is just so full. Thank you, thank you. I watched both parts over two days, and have taken notes and you are wonderful to share with us your thoughts and knowledge. I so appreciate you and look forward to watching more.
Incredible just incredible the knowledge imparted here was priceless. The quality was wonderful! This level of content is what we are thirsting for! Just Wow!
Hayden, that was profound on the child coming out and meeting his mother first. Powerful!!!
ASTOUNDING, ASTOUNDING, ASTOUNDING!!! When part one ended and I saw part two was starting to auto play, I did a drum roll slap on my coffee table and shouted, YES! Thank you to all you Brothers, thank you. May the Lord bless you all for your faith and discipleship.
I ate up every word all the way to the end and can’t wait for the next episode! You’re answering so many questions for me. Bravo and thank you!
I watched both videos the first time at 2x speed. Then came back to these same videos and spent, no joke, an entire week, going back and forth throughout the entire 2.5 hrs of these videos, going through all the scriptures and all the sources, and finding my own things that corroborate with what you're teaching. This IS delicious! I have been so spiritually uplifted throughout all of this as well. It's not just academic and scholarly. This is truly rich with power! Thank you for sharing all that you've learned. I've already moved onto your first book "Plain and Precious Things". Love this channel guys!
Ive been enjoying this deep dive into these plain and precious truths! Just purchased David’s book, “In the Language of Adam” and can’t wait to get it! This has been a fantastic and enlightening conversation!!! Thanks to all four of you guys for this awesome series!!!!
This is best enjoyed late at night, coming home from work while going through the car wash. Keep up the great work guys!
Thanks Dave. I like how you are humble and talk about it as a hypothesis. I think there is so much value in asking and and seeking while being humbel about it. Amazing as always!
Thank you for making this line from the song true, "learning the gospel can be fun!" 🎼🎵🎶
So interesting guys! Now i have to do some major reading and studying!
This is great. I need to go back through it again.
Thanks so much
I’ve watched this through a couple times. This is great! I appreciate what you’ve done in this. Enjoyed it. I have noticed many things as I studied on my own over the years. The levels, and facets that come into view when you let things tumble around in your head . I read something and carry a question around and then lightening strikes and in a flash the answers come and sometimes they come in a row. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Thank you for the discussion I will be sticking to the end :-) so now you can bump it up to six people :-)
Make that 7!
Thank you so much for this interview! I have feasted deeply, I feel a nourishment I have missed. I don’t mind having to search and do my own soul nourishment, it’s like cooking for yourself every day. But sometimes when you get invited to dinner and the meal is exquisite, you remember and appreciate it forever! So many things confirmed, then moved even deeper in understanding. Plus I finally see where OUR temple worship fits. It has not been lost on me that the church talks about how temples were part of the original church in Christ’s time, but the temple of Christ’s time didn’t do baptisms for the dead, Sealings of marriage, endowments and the like. The Jewish temple is completely different than latter-day temples. So when you started describing things and I’m seeing and hearing it all come together in my mind, my soul lept for joy and I finally saw it! There’s the temple of our day!! The sermon on the mount!!! My soul rejoices!
Your could have gone two more hours and it would still have been over far too soon. I’m so glad a friend shared the video link. I can’t wait to listen to some of the others! 💕
Glad you are sharing these things. I was wishing I could be at the table and share about 20 different insights that you would love. I read Welch's book 15 years ago, and have published several pieces directly related to the topics covered.
Where can we read those?
The rest is in my head or self-published on Medium, and half of what I've ever written I would rewrite today.
This is so very interesting, captivating, and wonderful information!!!! Thank you for sharing!!!
WOW!!! This is exhausting! Thank you sooooo much!!!
I watched all three videos and they were wonderful! Thank you so much! I wrote so many notes in my scriptures. 😊
Awesome. I was halfway there on a lot of this but thanks for helping me along the rest of the way. So many things for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear
Wow! These videos are tying together "random" thoughts that I've had over several decades! This is so exciting and beautiful!
13:45 so crazy I was just study this today in relation to the Seal of Hezekiah which was discovered in 2015. The cognate of “to be” is “life.” Hayah is to be, hay is life. I wonder if when the BoM says “and it came to pass” it is similar to that “hayah,” or “hay.” The Anglican/English version of “hay” or “hayes” is used to describe a thicket, shrubbery, or… bush. The Gailic form of “hays” means “fire” so all this reminds me of the burning bush, or “hedge” which is used to protect or cover or hide a vineyard or home, it is a hurdle for an enemy. My last name is Hayes so anytime I see root words I look up the meanings and definitions to see if it gives scripture more context and understanding.
I was just texting a friend about how “hayah” is super similar in appearance and pronunciation to “chavah.” In Hebrew they look like היה (hayah) and חוה (chava). Hebrew (and language in general) is fun 😆
I would read “The Book of Mormon Code” by Pizorno The first chapter will blow your mind as she goes over the Vav is the tent peg in Biblical Hebrew. It came to pass is used over and over as it is nailing things together. Suddenly it’s a tool with meaning rather than a repetitious statement.
I require sustenance! Please May we have more
Some feedback. You didn’t need to adjust the microphone for our guest or keep asking him to speak into the microphone. We could hear him just fine. It was distracting to hear you ask him a few times to speak into microphone and adjust his microphone. It was all good. 😊
I love this. I’m looking forward to your posting more!
DAVID BUTLER, I'm reading your plain and precious things book. In the breakdown of Lehi's dream, Lehi describes the scene as "being as a world". No joke, that part stuck out to me last time I read the Book of Mormon, it sounded odd, and I couldn't figure out what the hell he meant by that. It's Ulam! Olam!You solved the mystery!! (Pun intended). Awesome stuff my guy.
These videos are incredible. Thank you so, so much for doing them and releasing them.
I have no words!😂 Gentlemen, you are amazing!
Epiusion bread really gives a new perspective on the hidden manna in Revelation 2:17
Why not reference the JST for the verses in which Joseph restored the Temple language? (JST Matt 7:10)
This blew my mind!
This was excellent! I'm excited to listen to it all again! Thank you for sharing these amazing connections that strengthen the validity of the Restored Church and the Book of Mormon!
I finally got to finish this tonight, but I listened to part one the night that it was released, and when I got to the end, I was like, "nooooo!" I have to wait?! What a feast! Keep up the work, my brothers!
Absolutely loved this!
Jackson’s face when Hayden’s talking about childbirth. 😆😆😆 You guys, these discussions are amazing! Thanks so much! ♥️
So well done! Thanks for doing this.
Way to go, guys! I can’t get enough of this.
Guys, I love these interviews. There is tons of information and really entertaining. I'm happy to be a Lehi on patreon.
Now, this is just my own opinion. I'm not sure what you guys got cooked up. But I'd recommend a different background instead of just black. Mainly because Mike with a black shirt looks like a floating head😂. Now I know you guys don't have tons of resources, but maybe just a little more natural for us viewer's that like watching. Can't wait for the next one!
Thanks for your support and feedback brother!!!!
Another fantastic interview!!! Thank you!
Please post more !! This is amazing. I love the mysteries hidden in plain sight !! Thank you
Ty. Give us more. Nice new stuff. What a happy New Year!
Great info! Watched part 1 and 2 over 2 days it was awesome!
This is one of those things I will be revisiting...so much to take in
It’s taken me three weeks to process this!
Love love love this, Thank you so much.
Boom Shakalaka - This was delicious. This was such an amazing discussion. I would love Dave to be a regular on your show. It was mind blowing stuff. Please consider having him on your show again.
Consider my mind FETCHING blown 🤯
I'm still here 59:35. Nana. Love this!
Hey I’ve come back 4 times to finish, this is fascinating!
When one will not respond to the positive beatitudes, one must be hit with the negative penalties.
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯If a picture is worth more than 1000 words, this is all I need. What a feast. Muito obrigado.
Made it down to the final four who made it to the conclusion of the video.
Great work, gentlemen! Enjoyed every moment. Learned a lot.
Thank you for the deep dive
Thank you for that connection with birthing and Eve!❤
Thank you for this!
I can’t wait it for part 3
I am loving the wealth of this spiritual feast! Hosts, please include both guests on your introduction, it seems they are both adding a great deal of information. I assume David Butler is left and Mike Day is right. They should be re-introduced on each video.
One of the best videos (both parts) I've ever seen.
Definitely awesome!
Absolutely amazing.
I took me a while to get through this, but what a treasure! Thank you so much. I wish I could have been one of the two people who watched it live - lol
P.S. I just received both books from Amazon and looking forward to reading and learning more.
I'm a big fan of Mike Day! I listen to him and Bruce!
I stayed to the end! More please!
Interesting thought... choose between God and Mammon. -> Law of consecration. Either you consecrate the riches you got from earth/creation to God or you serve Mammon (the riches or the earth/creation).
I’m hungry for more!
To me this makes a lot of sense. When Jesus comes to the Nephites, he first teaches faith, then repentance, by introducing himself, then Baptism, then gift of the Holy Ghost, So what would be next in the temple? Priesthood which he gives to the 12 he chose, then the Beatitudes, Temple ordinances, on to entering into his presence when he pulls them all back in and heals them, then introduces them to the Father by way of his prayer that he defy words addressed to the father. He then invites them in and dwells among them, until they fall away and separate themselves from him. I have never thought about it like this. What would Jesus want to do if he wanted to teach someone and get them back to heaven. He would teach the temple... even marriage is in there if the Church is his bride, then 3 Ne. 27 would explain the marriage, and sealing of us to him!!!!!!!!!!!! It is all there. I am feeling excited about this imagery. So what does Jesus do when he visits the Nephites, he takes them through the temple!🤯
Loved both parts all the way through...more?!!!???!!!!
Each room could also correlate to ask, seek, knock.
My son had shared this with me… Thank You very much
I think you could shared something very similar with other Christian… Leave the Book of Mormon and LDS scriptures out..Continue using Ancient Temple reference and three room with the three level of glory. And the Connection of Christ teaching with the Ancient Temple in the Old Testament.
I think many of my Christian friends would enjoy and learn from it too.
"... He was speaking the word to them, so far as they were able to hear it; and He did not speak to them without a parable; but He was explaining everything privately to His own disciples." He teaches through symbolism, and explains PRIVATELY (in the temple??) to HIS OWN DISCIPLES.
I stuck around to the end!!😉 Some of this went over my head but it was great and very interesting! I wasn’t your mom listening but I was chuckling at your comments towards the end! Listened to both videos 👍🏻
Remember that the final gate in the temple was literally named "the life." Narrow is the way that leader to life.
This is fascinating, thanks for the content
I’m still here!!! Haha. Love it!!! Keep it coming 🦾💥
Thank youn
Great ideas. For years I've noticed that Matt 5 and 3 Ne 12 are a character development chapters. I also noticed that we are commanded in verse 48 to be perfect. Jesus keeps teaching after that. Why did he say that there and not at the end of the whole thing? I believe we must focus on perfecting the attributes in 3 Ne 12. That is our job in this mortal temple. After the "Blessed are they..." which are steps of development, then comes further developments to share the Light, overcome the worldliness of anger, reconciliation, conflict prevention, lust, honesty, integrity, retaliation avoidance, sharing, love even if not deserved. These instructions are for us to perfect our characters to be divine, complete, whole, perfect - a worthy temple to become, be like our Savior and Father in Heaven.
1:05:20 please stay David! We need more!
This is really great stuff. Thanks guys. You have a new subscriber here! Please have David and Mike back soon.
You could also view it as
Your home = The first level
Church = The second level (sacrament)
Temple = The third level