The bible teaches that the earth is flat. Revelation of John 7:1 KJV And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. How are there corners if something is round?
@@atiba9237 Sorry, but that is erroneous teaching. No verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere, ball and globe. Reread the verse you quoted. You expect people to take "four corners of earth" literally and not the rest??? If we were meant to read any of that literally, we could see the "ice wall" from Mt. Everest. Can you see the four corners from where you are? And how does one hold wind? And for what purpose? I would also like to know why we can't see Yahweh's feet as they rest on the footstool shaped Earth. Have you ever seen the tabernacle tent the Sun goes into every night? If we take that one literally, how come it's always day time somewhere on Earth? I have more...
@@harveycreature It was??? "the circle of the earth" means globe. The goober flatearthers are reading it as "the circle Earth." Notice the capitalization. Besides, no verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere, ball and globe. Just saying. :)
Well in Genius chapter 1 verse 6-19 its says a dome 8 times What would we think a dome is ?? a rounded vault forming the roof of a building or structure, typically with a circular base.
…also, you mentioned only one text. Have you considered re-visiting the creation story in Genesis? Until about a year ago, the idea of a flat earth was utter foolishness to me. After giving it a chance, some serious questions have come up for me with the globe model.
@@Aperrin001 Isaiah 40:22 Aramaic Bible in Plain English: And him who sits on the sphere of The Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretched out the Heavens like a vaulted bowl, and stretched them out as a tent for a dwelling Peshitta Holy Bible Translated: And him who sits on the SPHERE of The Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretched out the Heavens like a vaulted bowl, and stretched them out as a tent for a dwelling The Message 21-24 Have you not been paying attention? Have you not been listening? Haven’t you heard these stories all your life? Don’t you understand the foundation of all things? God sits high above the ROUND BALL OF EARTH. Italian Bible. Egli è quel che siede sopra il globo della terra [GLOBE] Dutch official bible talks about a KLOOT ( old Dutch for ball) Amos 9:6 Geneva Bible 1560 He buildeth his spheres in the heaven, and hath laid the foundation of his globe of elements in the earth: hee calleth the waters of the sea, and powreth them out vpon the open earth: the Lorde is his Name. Latin Vulgate qui sedet super gyrum terrae et habitatores eius sunt quasi lucustae qui extendit velut nihilum caelos et expandit eos sicut tabernaculum ad inhabitandum - “It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.” Isaiah 10:20-23 The Message And on that Day also, what’s left of Israel, the straggling survivors of Jacob, will no longer be fascinated by abusive, battering Assyria. They’ll lean on God, The Holy-yes, truly. The ragtag remnant-what’s left of Jacob-will come back to the Strong God. Your people Israel were once like the sand on the seashore, but only a scattered few will return. Destruction is ordered, brimming over with righteousness. For the Master, God-of-the-Angel-Armies, will finish here what he started all over the globe. Isaiah 23:6-8 The Message Visit Tarshish, you who live on the seacoast. Take a good, long look and wail-yes, cry buckets of tears! Is this the city you remember as energetic and alive, bustling with activity, this historic old city, Expanding throughout the globe, buying and selling all over the world?
Wow circles are flat and round. YHWH sits above a circle. He divides waters. Water is flat. This man who lies and denies the word trying to corrupt it wants people to believe in a globe.
There is not such thing as a 2D object in our 3D reality. "Circle" is a 2D geometric term. There are not circles, just circular 3D objects. Besides, "the circle of the earth" means a spherical planet. The word "earth" isn't capitalized, so it's not even talking about the whole thing.
If Bible says Earth is not moving then who told you that Earth is revolve around the sun? Can you show me where God says Earth is Rotate around the Sun?
@tjjones621 In the Beginning God didn't Created Earth to spinning around the Sun EARTH is not moving but Stand STILL and REST👇 1 Chronicles 16:30 [30]Fear before him, all the earth: 👉the WORLD ALSO SHALL BE STABLE👈, 👉THAT IT BE NOT MOVED.👈 Isaiah 14:7 [7]👉The WHOLE EARTH IS AT REST, AND is QUIET👈: they break forth into singing. Zechariah 1:11 [11]And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, 👉ALL THE EARTH SITTETH STILL, AND IS AT REST.👈
@@patrickmachariakabuchwa "that it be not moved" means Yahweh affixed Earth in its place in the expanse. It does not mean motionless or stationary. "The whole earth is at rest" First of all, you no bible verse is in all caps. "Earth" in this verse is not capitalized, so it is not talking about the planet. It is at rest in the old testament is a reference to Yahweh resting on the 7th day. This does not mean motionless or stationary. Again, "earth" in this verse is not capitalized. These are all examples of poetic phraseology never intended to be interpreted literally. You have failed to show me any verse that uses the terms you used in your first comment. None of your examples say "Earth is not moving." The problem is, your confusion about the shape of Earth has affected your ability to understand the Word.
Sorry, but there are zero verses in any version that says Earth is "flat" with a "dome." Several say sphere ball and globe. That Dubay guy.... he is a con man who secretly uses the globe map to drive around.
Joshua 10:12-14 Joshua commands the sun and the moon to stand still, if the earth was the one moving he would have commanded the earth to stand still. So the sun and moon are the ones moving around the earth
It's a phrase that means the event took so long it was as if the Sun stood still. It also says this event lasted a full day. They had not clocks, told time by the Sun. How could they know is was 1 full day?
@tjjones621 it is not a "phrase" bible goes into specific details that the sun and the moon stood still and that "there has never been another day like it" Please read carefully Joshua 10:12-14. The bible disagrees with your opinion
When Jesus returns, how does every person all arnd the globe see him, at the same time, coming in the air. The earth would have to be flat or he’s stretching out the image of himself. Jesus can do whatever he wants but this is the most confusing scripture to me re: earth flat or round theories. I’m not sure and honestly- it doesn’t impact me and the Bible doesn’t talk about it much so it’s a “minor” in my book.
Clearly, it's either metaphor or poetic description or it's a supernatural event that hasn't happened yet. If read literally, then we should see the "ice wall" from Mt. Everest. :)
You wouldn't be able to see that anyways. Even from the tallest mountain on Earth, you can only see about 200 miles. People on the other side of the ocean wouldn't see him. Any deity that can wave their hands and use magic to appear visible farther than the human eye can also wave their hands and use magic to appear visible on the other side of a solid object.
He didn’t mention Genesis. The Bible also describes it there. And from the way it is described it sounds a lot like a flat earth dome idea. Not sure anyone still taking the Bible serious? Let alone Flat Earthers?
How come the bible is made to be "tricky and confusing" and full of interpretations just to prove that the God there was "THE GOD".. When God can just simply appear in front of us?
It wasn’t him but the power within him it was the Holy Spirit and avid can do anything because he is the creator all of all things. Like mose departed the sea but it wasn’t him or the rod who did it but the Holy Spirit
@@Jewonastick anything that happens that beyond humans abilities because of our limitations is a supernatural miracle.God aka Yahweh is the creator of all things his name holds power even when he appeared in human form as Christ even demonic spirits tremble of the sound of his name and I have witnessed it myself. Because words have power. Jesus made the storm calm because the storm obeyed him just as the sun and the moon also obey him I also have heard of people testimonies and also my mother’s when God stop time for them. She was on a highway and a 8 wheeler truck was getting ready to run into her but everything stop and pause and she went straight between the truck without crashing into the truck . I have heard of similar situations just like her. See you have lack of faith and don’t believe because u can’t see God but when he did come here in human form people to didn’t believe in him and said when u see me u see him who sent me
Basically this man just contradicted himself. If he is not sure of the biblical meaning of the word round, he can't say that the bible doesn't say the earth is flat.
No verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere, ball and globe. Round in any language is not a shape. Circle is a 2D geometric concept that does not exist in reality. There are no circles, only circular 3D objects, some of which can be described as round.
"You would think that if the Bible clearly teaches the earth is flat, there would be a verse somewhere that says, 'The earth is flat'" - No it's the opposite, since our human intuition is that the earth is flat, God's manual should specifically say "the earth is spherical" in order to let us know this unintuitive truth. Either the writers of the Bible felt it was such a truism that the earth is flat that it wasn't worth mentioning or reference to flat earth was removed from the Bible when it became silly to believe that the earth is flat.
You can't take nothing and turn it into something. The Bible has about as much to say about vacuum cleaners as it does the shape of the Earth. The Bible is a moral, ethical, and spiritual guide, not a science textbook. Trying to squeeze science out of the Bible is like trying to get fresh squeezed orange juice out of a bowling ball.
@@josephherbert8594 The Bible is supposed a manual for how to live life. It can't afford to make so many mistakes (any mistakes for that matter) or leave room for mistakes if it was designed as THE book by a perfect god. That's illogical. Also the guy who made the video is trying to turn the Bible into a science book himself (as he should) because the Bible does make truth claims about the state of the physical universe. For ex. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." Which is factually false. Earth was "created" some 9 billion years after the "creation" of the universe. The Bible shouldn't make truth claims if the authors didn't want to be fact-checked. If the Bible is divine in any capacity, it's illogical that it would get its facts so wrong.
Isa 40:22 is NOT about whether the earth is ROUND or a FLAT CIRCLE - it is about HIS STORY - for He is from the BEGINNING unto the END, an ETERNAL CIRCUIT. What are the WITNESSES to this interpretation being correct? Job 22:14 Does God LITERALLY WALK AROUND in the HEAVENS? No it refers to HIM being HEAVENLY - RUACH; RUACH HAKODESH - Holy SPIRIT - likened to a MIGHTY WIND (RUACH), He is EVERYWHERE and He is ABOVE. Pro 8:27 is talking about WISDOM - which again is a reference to Elohim regards HIS RUACH;SPIRIT and HE SET A CIRCUIT - APPOINTED TIMES - they are CONTINUAL until ALL is FULFILLED. The FEASTS of God are SEVEN (Lev 23) - they happen CONTINUALLY as does HIS WORD. So HE - our GOD sits ABOVE TIME - HE KNOWS ALL.
@@letsgoskyhi yes, that place was likely inhabited a long time ago by hunter gatherers who built the monuments there, but that was much before the invention of writing. The oldest hindu texts were composed many thousand years ago, but that's not even close to a million years.
Religious text can be interpreted so that it aligns with anyone's perception of the world. There is no agreement whatsoever on that which is to be considered figurative and that which should be taken literally. It seems odd that these words, supposedly handed down by a god, or gods, (depending on the faith concerned) is so ambiguous. Of course, none of it has any effect on reality.
love how you have to dodge it by saying "in a word no". Come on either it distinctly says round earth or not! I mean You would think that if the Bible clearly teaches the earth is SPHERICAL, there would be a verse somewhere that says, “The earth is SPHERICAL,“ but there isn’t. So what does the Bible tell us? it says in not just one word but plenty that the world is flat, and completely anchored, stationary, immobile, cenetered, and many many other things that contradict reality. and remember dont use the newer rewritten versions that white washes all the horrible stuff people are commanded by god to do to be good christians. remember the book is the word of god and so everything that is commanded or suggested is the word of god else it wouldnt be in the book and please dont water it down by saying well acshhually it isnt all the word of god only the bits that arent the embodyment of a cthulu nightmare are the words of god and the rest is just individuals writing about things and experiences. dont forget kids if god is omnipotent then god is 100% complicite in every single bad thing that has ever happened since he has always had the knowledge of and has always had the power to prevent it and the fact he has not shows he is just as guilty as the purpatrator.
@tjjones621 yes they are: Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, Psalm 119:89, Psalm 119:90, 1 Chronicles 16:30 consensus between all the different versions is the earth is immoveable, cannot be moved, will never be moved etc. and then there is Job 9:6 so even though it is made immoveable and unshakeable aparently it CAN be shaken from its place. and for flat: job 38:5 "quis posuit mensuras eius si nosti vel quis tetendit super eam lineam" would have been written as something closer to "quis posuit mensuras eius si nosti vel quis circum eam lineam" because they did have the words for circles and spheres back then and they used those words back then too however the phrase is as if they are measuring the floor to a building which would not have been used to describe measuring something round. Isaiah 40:22 would have used the word sphaera instead of gyrum Deuteronomy 28:49 end of the earth is a common phrase but it came from these books and if it was supposed to be a sphere instead of "longinquo et de extremis finibus terrae" it would have said something like "longinquo et de e regione terrae" there is more but i fear youtube comments section will cut it off for being too long. so let me know what your take is on all of this?
@@TheEyeTeaMan You literally just proved that none of the terms you used in your first comment are in Scripture. Those were YOUR words... not His. Fixed means He affixed the Earth in its place in the Expanse. Immovable means only He can remove it from its place in the Expanse. According to Strong's Concordance, the term "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 means circle or sphere. Did you even Google "Hebrew word for sphere"??? Besides, "the circle of the earth" can mean anything circular as there are no circles in reality, only 3D circular objects. Simple geometry class stuff. You should stop listening to the flatearth high priests. Meanwhile, you use the map of the globe Earth for turn by turn directions. Me too.
@@tjjones621 what??? what words have i used that arent used to describe earth in the bible? immoveable =\= moveable sorry god moving it means its not immoveable however the texts say it is immoveable. fixed in place as you stated means fixed in place not sure why you pointed that out and swapped it for the synonym affixed they mean the same thing. in geometry circles very much do exist in fact >>>⭕
@@TheEyeTeaMan Your confusion lies in the context. "the circle of the earth" means globe. Like the flatearthers, you are reading it as "the circle Earth." Also, notice the capitalization. Besides, circles don't exist in reality. There are only circular 3D objects. A sphere is a 3D circle. Therefore, it simply can't mean Earth is a circle.
The bible teaches that the earth is flat. Revelation of John 7:1 KJV And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. How are there corners if something is round?
Your not going off the original books of the Bible that where taken out by the church to confuse and divide us. I am not a Christian I follow the Bible and what it actually teaches and I listen to the most high Yahweh and his son Yeshua. I do not follow Christianity anymore I follow a culture that has been tampered with heavily and turned into Christianity.
And ball is a toy. Earth is a sphere. Other point... The verse you refer, "...toss you like a ball...". The word yoy say means a ball, is used in Bible a: burning wood under the kettle and b: encamping round. Don't believe? Do your research 😉
Yes, when in the context of something like "He will toss you like a ball." It would make even less sense if Isaiah had said "He sits above the ball of the earth."
Sorry but your logic fails. Circles are round. Balls are round. But that does not mean circles are the same as balls. "Chug" means circle, not "round thing." Flat earth is already proven on day 2 of creation in Genesis 1, when God creates the solid dome or vault "firmament" above the earth, separating the waters of heaven from the waters of the earth. This necessitates a stationary, planar, geocentric earth and rules out any possibility of a spinning ball flying around the sun. Stop using word tricks just because you're too scared to believe the Word of God over the word of man and his "science" falsely so-called. Stop being a double minded man. You use God's word to reject evolution and geology, but then you bow the knee before astronomy and NASA while ignoring and scorning God's word on these matters.
You could not be more incorrect. The word is circle, no doubt. But there are no circles in reality. Only circular 3D objects. The phrase is "the circle of the earth", a possessive, descriptive phrase. You are reading it as "the circle Earth." Firmament is correctly translated as expanse. Check Strong's. It means universe. It is not a solid dome, and is described as a molten looking glass. Molten is not solid. Waters above are rain, snow, clouds, etc. and waters below are oceans, lakes, well water, etc. This is what they observed. There are no physical windows. Simple jr. high level math proves the alternative geocentric model is impossible and you can't even begin to counter that math unless you know how far away the stars are. If you are a bold believer who thinks the globe Earth is the enemy's lie, do you have the courage to tell me the name of the map you use to navigate the Earth? Before you answer, you should know... it's the exact same map all NASA employees use.
If the earth was moving Joshua would not ask the sun and the moon to stand still. Earth is not moving..use some logic especially when flying on a plane.
What if the Earth stopped rotating for 1 day and it only looked like the sky stopped? Also, Scripture is pretty specific about that event lasting for one day, 24 hours. But, they had no clocks and told time by the Sun so... how could they know it was one day? I say that story is true, but it was an event that took so long it was described as if the Sun stood still. It's a common phrase used today not intended to take literally.
If the Bible teaches that the earth is flat it would be scientifically inaccurate but If you know the Bible, you know it talks allot in parables; in fact, Jesus only spoke in Parables.
What does Bible say about viruses? Or platypuses? What about why things fall down? Or why you drown if you are under the water too long? No one these are true, supposedly...
The Bible does not specify that the Earth is flat people bring up in the Bible says the angels that like the four corners of the Earth that does not mean that is flat and then Isaiah 4022 did he use the Hebrew word or something? Wow never said it was why he never said it was fully around he never said anything like it, that’s one thing people they take to Bible and illustrator the way they want to instead of looking at us for what it is
Do The HONEST RESEARCH, and You'll find that every map BEFORE the 10-12th Century Depicted a flat earth with a Dome Go READ and then Reread GENESIS 1-3 🧐 and See how Many times you See 🙈 the Word Dome 🤔
@cartiisking100-o3h Those are drawings, not maps, no legend, no scale, no way to measure anything. You don't use a 1000 year old map to navigate. You use the globe map like the rest of us. So, what's your point about a 1000 year old map?
Amen guys. The scriptures that they use for a flat earth simply don't line up.
You didn't even get what he was saying
@@jasminyala3231 Yes he did... Flatearth is the enemy's trick.
The bible teaches that the earth is flat. Revelation of John 7:1 KJV And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. How are there corners if something is round?
@@atiba9237 Sorry, but that is erroneous teaching. No verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere, ball and globe.
Reread the verse you quoted. You expect people to take "four corners of earth" literally and not the rest??? If we were meant to read any of that literally, we could see the "ice wall" from Mt. Everest.
Can you see the four corners from where you are? And how does one hold wind? And for what purpose? I would also like to know why we can't see Yahweh's feet as they rest on the footstool shaped Earth. Have you ever seen the tabernacle tent the Sun goes into every night? If we take that one literally, how come it's always day time somewhere on Earth?
I have more...
@@atiba9237are you serious? 4 corners of earth is literally a metaphor for everywhere on earth, haven’t you ever heard someone use this expression?
flat earth even gives the young earth creationists someone to laugh at.
True Christians Know The TRUTH 🙏🏾
@@mixedfeelings8789 All Christians use the globe map to navigate. TRUTH.
@@mixedfeelings8789
the truth is the earth is a sphere and flattards are fukingimbeciles.
@@mixedfeelings8789
yes, the truth that the earth is a sphere.
The circle he sits above is the dome firmament. The Earth is flat with four corners he made and it sets on the foundation he created in the firmament
Exactly ‼️‼️
So how come you use a map of the globe Earth to navigate?
@@tjjones621cause the Bible was wrong.
@@harveycreature It was??? "the circle of the earth" means globe. The goober flatearthers are reading it as "the circle Earth." Notice the capitalization.
Besides, no verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere, ball and globe. Just saying. :)
@ in what verse is the earth referred to as a ball or sphere?
Well in Genius chapter 1 verse 6-19 its says a dome 8 times
What would we think a dome is ??
a rounded vault forming the roof of a building or structure, typically with a circular base.
A dome has a flat bottom.
Have you considered the events of the second coming of Christ? Specifically, “every eye shall see Him”? Would that be possible on a globe?
…also, you mentioned only one text. Have you considered re-visiting the creation story in Genesis?
Until about a year ago, the idea of a flat earth was utter foolishness to me. After giving it a chance, some serious questions have come up for me with the globe model.
Exactly 💯
Have you considered that if there were meant to be understood literally, we could see the icewall from Australia?
Rethink yourself.
@@Aperrin001 Isaiah 40:22
Aramaic Bible in Plain English:
And him who sits on the sphere of The Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretched out the Heavens like a vaulted bowl, and stretched them out as a tent for a dwelling
Peshitta Holy Bible Translated:
And him who sits on the SPHERE of The Earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretched out the Heavens like a vaulted bowl, and stretched them out as a tent for a dwelling
The Message
21-24 Have you not been paying attention?
Have you not been listening?
Haven’t you heard these stories all your life?
Don’t you understand the foundation of all things?
God sits high above the ROUND BALL OF EARTH.
Italian Bible.
Egli è quel che siede sopra il globo della terra [GLOBE]
Dutch official bible talks about a KLOOT ( old Dutch for ball)
Amos 9:6
Geneva Bible 1560
He buildeth his spheres in the heaven, and hath laid the foundation of his globe of elements in the earth: hee calleth the waters of the sea, and powreth them out vpon the open earth: the Lorde is his Name.
Latin Vulgate
qui sedet super gyrum terrae et habitatores eius sunt quasi lucustae qui extendit velut nihilum caelos et expandit eos sicut tabernaculum ad inhabitandum - “It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.”
Isaiah 10:20-23
The Message
And on that Day also, what’s left of Israel, the straggling survivors of Jacob, will no longer be fascinated by abusive, battering Assyria. They’ll lean on God, The Holy-yes, truly. The ragtag remnant-what’s left of Jacob-will come back to the Strong God. Your people Israel were once like the sand on the seashore, but only a scattered few will return. Destruction is ordered, brimming over with righteousness. For the Master, God-of-the-Angel-Armies, will finish here what he started all over the globe.
Isaiah 23:6-8
The Message
Visit Tarshish, you who live on the seacoast.
Take a good, long look and wail-yes, cry buckets of tears!
Is this the city you remember as energetic and alive,
bustling with activity, this historic old city,
Expanding throughout the globe,
buying and selling all over the world?
@@tjjones621 nah, too far to see
Wow circles are flat and round. YHWH sits above a circle. He divides waters. Water is flat. This man who lies and denies the word trying to corrupt it wants people to believe in a globe.
Your map kinda makes you a hypocrite.
@@tjjones621 I use flat maps. Dummy
@@AZ-ou1oc Oh yeah? Name it. I dare you.
@@AZ-ou1oc Your indoctr1nation just got exposed.
@@tjjones621 name a map with earth curve that you measured in the real world. Sheep.
Circular is not a sphere though if something is circular it just means it’s round not in a 3-D object more of a 2-D object correct?
the earth is easily verifiably a sphere.
There is not such thing as a 2D object in our 3D reality. "Circle" is a 2D geometric term. There are not circles, just circular 3D objects. Besides, "the circle of the earth" means a spherical planet. The word "earth" isn't capitalized, so it's not even talking about the whole thing.
If Bible says Earth is not moving then who told you that Earth is revolve around the sun?
Can you show me where God says Earth is Rotate around the Sun?
Can you show us where it says "Earth is not moving"?
@tjjones621 In the Beginning God didn't Created Earth to spinning around the Sun
EARTH is not moving but Stand STILL and REST👇
1 Chronicles 16:30
[30]Fear before him, all the earth: 👉the WORLD ALSO SHALL BE STABLE👈, 👉THAT IT BE NOT MOVED.👈
Isaiah 14:7
[7]👉The WHOLE EARTH IS AT REST, AND is QUIET👈: they break forth into singing.
Zechariah 1:11
[11]And they answered the angel of the LORD that stood among the myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, 👉ALL THE EARTH SITTETH STILL, AND IS AT REST.👈
@@patrickmachariakabuchwa "that it be not moved" means Yahweh affixed Earth in its place in the expanse. It does not mean motionless or stationary.
"The whole earth is at rest" First of all, you no bible verse is in all caps. "Earth" in this verse is not capitalized, so it is not talking about the planet. It is at rest in the old testament is a reference to Yahweh resting on the 7th day. This does not mean motionless or stationary.
Again, "earth" in this verse is not capitalized. These are all examples of poetic phraseology never intended to be interpreted literally.
You have failed to show me any verse that uses the terms you used in your first comment. None of your examples say "Earth is not moving."
The problem is, your confusion about the shape of Earth has affected your ability to understand the Word.
The Bible doesn’t talk about the invention of computers. Do they not exist?
The word ball is used in the KJV once. There 200+ passages that show show a flat domed structure with a substructure.
so the bible is wrong. big whoop.
Sorry, but there are zero verses in any version that says Earth is "flat" with a "dome." Several say sphere ball and globe. That Dubay guy.... he is a con man who secretly uses the globe map to drive around.
Don't lie.
Joshua 10:12-14 Joshua commands the sun and the moon to stand still, if the earth was the one moving he would have commanded the earth to stand still. So the sun and moon are the ones moving around the earth
no. joshua's "story" is simply a myth.
It's a phrase that means the event took so long it was as if the Sun stood still. It also says this event lasted a full day. They had not clocks, told time by the Sun. How could they know is was 1 full day?
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How Joshua 10:12-14 has to do with the shape of the earth?
@tjjones621 it is not a "phrase" bible goes into specific details that the sun and the moon stood still and that "there has never been another day like it" Please read carefully Joshua 10:12-14. The bible disagrees with your opinion
It's OK to have your opinion. To me the bible is the truth why don't you try and prove it wrong...
When Jesus returns, how does every person all arnd the globe see him, at the same time, coming in the air.
The earth would have to be flat or he’s stretching out the image of himself.
Jesus can do whatever he wants but this is the most confusing scripture to me re: earth flat or round theories.
I’m not sure and honestly- it doesn’t impact me and the Bible doesn’t talk about it much so it’s a “minor” in my book.
Clearly, it's either metaphor or poetic description or it's a supernatural event that hasn't happened yet. If read literally, then we should see the "ice wall" from Mt. Everest. :)
You wouldn't be able to see that anyways. Even from the tallest mountain on Earth, you can only see about 200 miles. People on the other side of the ocean wouldn't see him.
Any deity that can wave their hands and use magic to appear visible farther than the human eye can also wave their hands and use magic to appear visible on the other side of a solid object.
Circle in Hebrew is chug. That is the word used in the Bible . God sits above the “ circle” of the Earth
Yes, a ball is a circular 3D object, it is a 3D circle. Flatearthers mistakenly read it as "the circle Earth."
@@lisavillegas1059 do you know the root word for "chuwq"?
Check it out. Check how it is used.
He didn’t mention Genesis. The Bible also describes it there. And from the way it is described it sounds a lot like a flat earth dome idea. Not sure anyone still taking the Bible serious? Let alone Flat Earthers?
Genesis is not a detailed account of all of creation.
It depends with what velocity you're travelling
No verse in any version says Earth is flat and several say sphere, ball and globe. Do your own research.
How come the bible is made to be "tricky and confusing" and full of interpretations just to prove that the God there was "THE GOD"..
When God can just simply appear in front of us?
how do you explain that joshua stoped sun and moon?
It wasn’t him but the power within him it was the Holy Spirit and avid can do anything because he is the creator all of all things. Like mose departed the sea but it wasn’t him or the rod who did it but the Holy Spirit
@@PastorMeraki So in short ***MAGIC*** is your answer.
@@Jewonastick it might seem like that to you in your worldly point of view but it was because of the power of the Holy Spirit
@@PastorMeraki
1: demonstrate that it happened
2: demonstrate that your god/ghost/whatever you want to call him was involved in it.
@@Jewonastick anything that happens that beyond humans abilities because of our limitations is a supernatural miracle.God aka Yahweh is the creator of all things his name holds power even when he appeared in human form as Christ even demonic spirits tremble of the sound of his name and I have witnessed it myself. Because words have power. Jesus made the storm calm because the storm obeyed him just as the sun and the moon also obey him I also have heard of people testimonies and also my mother’s when God stop time for them. She was on a highway and a 8 wheeler truck was getting ready to run into her but everything stop and pause and she went straight between the truck without crashing into the truck . I have heard of similar situations just like her. See you have lack of faith and don’t believe because u can’t see God but when he did come here in human form people to didn’t believe in him and said when u see me u see him who sent me
Basically this man just contradicted himself. If he is not sure of the biblical meaning of the word round, he can't say that the bible doesn't say the earth is flat.
since the earth is clearly spherical, he is simply being pragmatic about the bible being wrong.
No verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere, ball and globe. Round in any language is not a shape. Circle is a 2D geometric concept that does not exist in reality. There are no circles, only circular 3D objects, some of which can be described as round.
"You would think that if the Bible clearly teaches the earth is flat, there would be a verse somewhere that says, 'The earth is flat'" - No it's the opposite, since our human intuition is that the earth is flat, God's manual should specifically say "the earth is spherical" in order to let us know this unintuitive truth. Either the writers of the Bible felt it was such a truism that the earth is flat that it wasn't worth mentioning or reference to flat earth was removed from the Bible when it became silly to believe that the earth is flat.
You can't take nothing and turn it into something.
The Bible has about as much to say about vacuum cleaners as it does the shape of the Earth.
The Bible is a moral, ethical, and spiritual guide, not a science textbook.
Trying to squeeze science out of the Bible is like trying to get fresh squeezed orange juice out of a bowling ball.
@@josephherbert8594 The Bible is supposed a manual for how to live life. It can't afford to make so many mistakes (any mistakes for that matter) or leave room for mistakes if it was designed as THE book by a perfect god.
That's illogical.
Also the guy who made the video is trying to turn the Bible into a science book himself (as he should) because the Bible does make truth claims about the state of the physical universe. For ex.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."
Which is factually false. Earth was "created" some 9 billion years after the "creation" of the universe.
The Bible shouldn't make truth claims if the authors didn't want to be fact-checked. If the Bible is divine in any capacity, it's illogical that it would get its facts so wrong.
@@josephherbert8594 what do verses about the creation of the universe have to do with guiding people on how to live their lives?
@@josephherbert8594actually the four corners of the earth most likely meant on a compass. So North South East West.
@@Blockyraps exactly
Isa 40:22 is NOT about whether the earth is ROUND or a FLAT CIRCLE - it is about HIS STORY - for He is from the BEGINNING unto the END, an ETERNAL CIRCUIT. What are the WITNESSES to this interpretation being correct? Job 22:14 Does God LITERALLY WALK AROUND in the HEAVENS? No it refers to HIM being HEAVENLY - RUACH; RUACH HAKODESH - Holy SPIRIT - likened to a MIGHTY WIND (RUACH), He is EVERYWHERE and He is ABOVE. Pro 8:27 is talking about WISDOM - which again is a reference to Elohim regards HIS RUACH;SPIRIT and HE SET A CIRCUIT - APPOINTED TIMES - they are CONTINUAL until ALL is FULFILLED. The FEASTS of God are SEVEN (Lev 23) - they happen CONTINUALLY as does HIS WORD.
So HE - our GOD sits ABOVE TIME - HE KNOWS ALL.
I want you to check real translation of genesis of world creation
why would that be relevant. if the iron age goat herders that wrote genesis were wrong about the shape of the earth, big deal.
Why? Does it say Earth is "flat"?
In Hinduism it is already mentioned before millions of years that the Earth is Round. 😂
No religion or language existed millions of years ago. The earliest civilizations started between 3000 to 4000 BCE.
@@akshitsharma8475really? 4000 BCE then what do you make of Globeki Tepe?
@@letsgoskyhi yes, that place was likely inhabited a long time ago by hunter gatherers who built the monuments there, but that was much before the invention of writing. The oldest hindu texts were composed many thousand years ago, but that's not even close to a million years.
Religious text can be interpreted so that it aligns with anyone's perception of the world. There is no agreement whatsoever on that which is to be considered figurative and that which should be taken literally.
It seems odd that these words, supposedly handed down by a god, or gods, (depending on the faith concerned) is so ambiguous.
Of course, none of it has any effect on reality.
Turn to jesus
@@LOOPSTATION-nd4gs Step into reality
@@JewonastickJesus is reality
@@Apexwolf17 Demonstrate that
love how you have to dodge it by saying "in a word no". Come on either it distinctly says round earth or not! I mean You would think that if the Bible clearly teaches the earth is SPHERICAL, there would be a verse somewhere that says, “The earth is SPHERICAL,“ but there isn’t. So what does the Bible tell us?
it says in not just one word but plenty that the world is flat, and completely anchored, stationary, immobile, cenetered, and many many other things that contradict reality. and remember dont use the newer rewritten versions that white washes all the horrible stuff people are commanded by god to do to be good christians. remember the book is the word of god and so everything that is commanded or suggested is the word of god else it wouldnt be in the book and please dont water it down by saying well acshhually it isnt all the word of god only the bits that arent the embodyment of a cthulu nightmare are the words of god and the rest is just individuals writing about things and experiences.
dont forget kids if god is omnipotent then god is 100% complicite in every single bad thing that has ever happened since he has always had the knowledge of and has always had the power to prevent it and the fact he has not shows he is just as guilty as the purpatrator.
"flat, and completely anchored, stationary, immobile, cenetered"
None of those terms are in Scripture. Why are you changing the Word of the Father?
@tjjones621 yes they are:
Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, Psalm 119:89, Psalm 119:90, 1 Chronicles 16:30 consensus between all the different versions is the earth is immoveable, cannot be moved, will never be moved etc. and then there is Job 9:6 so even though it is made immoveable and unshakeable aparently it CAN be shaken from its place.
and for flat:
job 38:5 "quis posuit mensuras eius si nosti vel quis tetendit super eam lineam" would have been written as something closer to "quis posuit mensuras eius si nosti vel quis circum eam lineam" because they did have the words for circles and spheres back then and they used those words back then too however the phrase is as if they are measuring the floor to a building which would not have been used to describe measuring something round.
Isaiah 40:22 would have used the word sphaera instead of gyrum
Deuteronomy 28:49 end of the earth is a common phrase but it came from these books and if it was supposed to be a sphere instead of "longinquo et de extremis finibus terrae" it would have said something like "longinquo et de e regione terrae"
there is more but i fear youtube comments section will cut it off for being too long. so let me know what your take is on all of this?
@@TheEyeTeaMan You literally just proved that none of the terms you used in your first comment are in Scripture. Those were YOUR words... not His.
Fixed means He affixed the Earth in its place in the Expanse.
Immovable means only He can remove it from its place in the Expanse.
According to Strong's Concordance, the term "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 means circle or sphere. Did you even Google "Hebrew word for sphere"???
Besides, "the circle of the earth" can mean anything circular as there are no circles in reality, only 3D circular objects. Simple geometry class stuff. You should stop listening to the flatearth high priests.
Meanwhile, you use the map of the globe Earth for turn by turn directions. Me too.
@@tjjones621 what??? what words have i used that arent used to describe earth in the bible?
immoveable =\= moveable
sorry god moving it means its not immoveable however the texts say it is immoveable.
fixed in place as you stated means fixed in place not sure why you pointed that out and swapped it for the synonym affixed they mean the same thing.
in geometry circles very much do exist in fact >>>⭕
@@TheEyeTeaMan Your confusion lies in the context. "the circle of the earth" means globe. Like the flatearthers, you are reading it as "the circle Earth." Also, notice the capitalization.
Besides, circles don't exist in reality. There are only circular 3D objects. A sphere is a 3D circle. Therefore, it simply can't mean Earth is a circle.
The bible teaches that the earth is flat. Revelation of John 7:1 KJV And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. How are there corners if something is round?
Take your own words, if the earth is circular how are there corners? Should we start saying that the earth is a square now 😂
I disagree. No verse in any version says Earth is "flat" and several say sphere ball and globe.
John's vision is not meant to be read literally.
it's called figure of speech lil bro 😆
Your not going off the original books of the Bible that where taken out by the church to confuse and divide us. I am not a Christian I follow the Bible and what it actually teaches and I listen to the most high Yahweh and his son Yeshua. I do not follow Christianity anymore I follow a culture that has been tampered with heavily and turned into Christianity.
So nice to see someone using the correct names. :)
The word Ball in Hebrew is Kadur
And ball is a toy.
Earth is a sphere.
Other point...
The verse you refer, "...toss you like a ball...". The word yoy say means a ball, is used in Bible a: burning wood under the kettle and b: encamping round.
Don't believe?
Do your research 😉
Yes, when in the context of something like "He will toss you like a ball." It would make even less sense if Isaiah had said "He sits above the ball of the earth."
Sorry but your logic fails. Circles are round. Balls are round. But that does not mean circles are the same as balls. "Chug" means circle, not "round thing."
Flat earth is already proven on day 2 of creation in Genesis 1, when God creates the solid dome or vault "firmament" above the earth, separating the waters of heaven from the waters of the earth. This necessitates a stationary, planar, geocentric earth and rules out any possibility of a spinning ball flying around the sun.
Stop using word tricks just because you're too scared to believe the Word of God over the word of man and his "science" falsely so-called. Stop being a double minded man. You use God's word to reject evolution and geology, but then you bow the knee before astronomy and NASA while ignoring and scorning God's word on these matters.
You could not be more incorrect. The word is circle, no doubt. But there are no circles in reality. Only circular 3D objects. The phrase is "the circle of the earth", a possessive, descriptive phrase. You are reading it as "the circle Earth."
Firmament is correctly translated as expanse. Check Strong's. It means universe. It is not a solid dome, and is described as a molten looking glass. Molten is not solid.
Waters above are rain, snow, clouds, etc. and waters below are oceans, lakes, well water, etc. This is what they observed. There are no physical windows.
Simple jr. high level math proves the alternative geocentric model is impossible and you can't even begin to counter that math unless you know how far away the stars are.
If you are a bold believer who thinks the globe Earth is the enemy's lie, do you have the courage to tell me the name of the map you use to navigate the Earth? Before you answer, you should know... it's the exact same map all NASA employees use.
If the earth was moving Joshua would not ask the sun and the moon to stand still. Earth is not moving..use some logic especially when flying on a plane.
Even if Joshua 10 is to be read literally, it still not say anything about the shape of the earth.
Don't distort the Word of God
What if the Earth stopped rotating for 1 day and it only looked like the sky stopped? Also, Scripture is pretty specific about that event lasting for one day, 24 hours. But, they had no clocks and told time by the Sun so... how could they know it was one day?
I say that story is true, but it was an event that took so long it was described as if the Sun stood still. It's a common phrase used today not intended to take literally.
If the Bible teaches that the earth is flat it would be scientifically inaccurate but If you know the Bible, you know it talks allot in parables; in fact, Jesus only spoke in Parables.
Or the better explanation. The science is false and a deception of Satan.
@@LumieXso you are using deception at this very moment.
So flat earthers are a one dimensional being and round esrthers are three dimensional
No in genis he talks about the firmament
I research Apollo 11 moon landing and devos
There are many references to it being flat and stationary. Which isn’t a surprise since the culture that influenced the Bible thought so.
Exactly 💯
Well the bible says sun and moon are lights that move in a circuit above the earth
and the bible is wrong.
@johnqpublic7608 and you are right
What does Bible say about viruses?
Or platypuses?
What about why things fall down?
Or why you drown if you are under the water too long?
No one these are true, supposedly...
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Sphere
The Bible does not specify that the Earth is flat people bring up in the Bible says the angels that like the four corners of the Earth that does not mean that is flat and then Isaiah 4022 did he use the Hebrew word or something? Wow never said it was why he never said it was fully around he never said anything like it, that’s one thing people they take to Bible and illustrator the way they want to instead of looking at us for what it is
Yea if you have the 4 corners of the earth, that would mean the earth is square. Best not to take everything literal..
Anyone who claims the Bible is a flat Earth book will need to show me the map they use to drive around.
Do The HONEST RESEARCH, and You'll find that every map BEFORE the 10-12th Century Depicted a flat earth with a Dome
Go READ and then Reread GENESIS 1-3 🧐 and See how Many times you See 🙈 the Word Dome 🤔
@cartiisking100-o3h Those are drawings, not maps, no legend, no scale, no way to measure anything. You don't use a 1000 year old map to navigate. You use the globe map like the rest of us. So, what's your point about a 1000 year old map?
@cartiisking100-o3h Wow, you commented him into oblivion.. he, POOF disappeared and I didn't even notice! LOL
@@tjjones621 drive around? You do know cars did not exist in this time?
@@harveycreature Yes, same way I know you don't use a map from that time to navigate the globe Earth.