The Contrarians Dark Horse Albums: Kiss - Crazy Nights (1987)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @thecontrarians2438
    @thecontrarians2438  2 месяца назад +6

    What is your rating for Kiss Crazy nights?

    • @christophercordova6136
      @christophercordova6136 2 месяца назад +3

      7/10 ! There’s a handful of gems on here- Paul’s vocal performances really shine on this album. “I’ll Fight Hell to Hold You” is a (deep-cut) winner for me.

    • @michaelterry464
      @michaelterry464 2 месяца назад

      Great episode; great album! I definitely give this album an 8/10. Yes, KISS was chasing trends at the time, but they did a fantastic job doing so!

    • @mmaciel9451
      @mmaciel9451 2 месяца назад

      08/10 Great!!

    • @OutOnTheTiles
      @OutOnTheTiles 2 месяца назад +1

      2/10.

    • @hardrockingtriviashow667
      @hardrockingtriviashow667 2 месяца назад

      6 of 10 for me.

  • @bobsavage1007
    @bobsavage1007 2 месяца назад +11

    I like this album. Paul’s voice was excellent during this period.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад +2

      Exactly, Paul’s voice is great

    • @bigdavedave9865
      @bigdavedave9865 2 месяца назад +2

      Couldn’t agree more, outstanding on this album

    • @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf
      @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf 2 месяца назад +1

      Couldn't agree less, too high and screechy, it's so annoying!

  • @evileyes4070
    @evileyes4070 2 месяца назад +8

    Turn On The Night is my favourite track on the album. ❤

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад +11

    I ran into Paul after the show when I was having dinner at the Hyatt...he didn't want to have anything to do with me...he met up with this tall, very hot, blonde in a red dress and got in the elevator with her...and Eric was there ..but wow, he was in a bad mood.

  • @garrypeak4277
    @garrypeak4277 2 месяца назад +6

    As a Kiss fan of 45 years, I listen to 80s Kiss far more than now than I do the 70s stuff. I never need to hear Rock & Roll All Nite or Love Gun.
    I’m a massive Heart fan, they are probably only behind Kiss & Beatles for me. So that fact that you can trace Crazy Nights to Heart’s 1985 self titled album, works for me. I know Martin hates it, but I like Ron Nevison’s work through this period, whether it’s Heart, Kiss, Ozzy or Europe.
    The tragedy of the Crazy Nights album for me, is that Time Traveller and Sword & Stone were left off. It would have made a good album, great. Truth be told, Nevison probably had to keep Gene happy and engaged, but I would have been dropping off No, No, No..and Good girl gone bad. My track listing would have been
    Crazy, crazy nights
    I’ll fight hell to hold you
    Sword and Stone
    Bang bang you
    Come hell or high water
    My way
    Time Traveller
    When your walls come down
    Reason to live
    Turn on the night
    Thief in the night

  • @logancollins7097
    @logancollins7097 2 месяца назад +2

    Great show guys! Going to my cousin and lifting with him really made me rediscover the 80s records and hearing songs like Turn On the Night and Reason to Live over there with him always will bring back memories now. Very solid release in my opinion i think a 7/10 fits perfect for this record.

  • @rick063092
    @rick063092 2 месяца назад +4

    Martin Popoff - legend..

  • @aaronsteelman4732
    @aaronsteelman4732 2 месяца назад +5

    It’s awesome to see Marco hosting another episode. He does a great job of moderating: Setting the stage, getting everyone’s opinion, and not interjecting in a way that distracts.

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 2 месяца назад +4

      agree completely, Marco is a great host and moderator. Just think he suits this host role more than Grant- Grant is just better as a contributor/when its his turn to discuss, nothing personal against him.

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  2 месяца назад

      Thank you @aaronsteelman4732 ! Much appreciated!!!

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  2 месяца назад

      Grant is a great host too! Plus all the cool graphics on the new series are all Grant, he has a great personality and is a core part of the team on and off camera! Also thank you for the kind comments!! @jimmycampbell78

    • @aaronsteelman4732
      @aaronsteelman4732 2 месяца назад

      I wasn’t trying to diminish Grant’s contributions. He has done a lot for the channel. But I do agree that Marco's approach to hosting makes the episodes more enjoyable for me.

    • @channelsurfer3710
      @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад

      @@thecontrarians2438 there's Venus De Marco, and there's Vegas De Marco...but I am Vegas Flytrap

  • @jcollins1305
    @jcollins1305 2 месяца назад +5

    The problem with 80’s KISS, is that by 1983 or so, they were in desperation mode. They HAD to chase trends to stay afloat, as they were playing to 3/4 empty arenas some nights. Their best albums of the 80’s were Lick it Up and Animalize imo. With animalize they caught lightning in a bottle with MSJ and his shredder (but very melodic) style, then with Vinny Vincent being an excellent songwriter. After that, they chased the hair metal/glam style with juvenile songs about girls and getting laid, while trying to write a hit with some cheesy ballads. They had no identity, and were desperate and people weren’t buying it.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад

      🤣 ‘juvenile songs about girls & getting laid’ & ‘trying to write a hit with some cheesy ballads’ is a good description of their 70s albums too.

    • @jcollins1305
      @jcollins1305 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes and no. Yes, there were many songs like that, but Dynasty is not that for the most part, nor the early stuff, for the most part. Hotter than Hell has a lot of interesting choices that work that are not vapid (strange ways, goin blind, coming home, parasite, etc)

  • @gwts1171
    @gwts1171 2 месяца назад +2

    Asylum is actually my favorite Kiss album in their whole catalog, and I did grow up with the early stuff. I go through phases, but I will always put on Asylum over any other one. Hotter Than Hell is up there, too.

  • @jasonrandell6523
    @jasonrandell6523 2 месяца назад +2

    Hi there...I quite like Crazy Nights...stand out track for me is "I'll Fight Hell To Hold You"...absolutely incredible song...they should have played this baby live!

  • @davehodson6288
    @davehodson6288 2 месяца назад +3

    My way one of my favourite kiss songs good solid album

  • @carlwmpylu
    @carlwmpylu 2 месяца назад +2

    I got into KISS by buying Creatures Of The Night & Dynasty on the same day so I was aware, straight off the bat, that the band could run very successfully with many styles within the rock genre, so the very commercial feel of Crazy Nights didn't phase me at all. AOR KISS was right up my street.
    Love the sound that Ron Nevison achieved and the songs are uniformly strong, my favourites being My Way, I'll Fight Hell To Hold You and Thief In The Night (Wendy O'Williams' version is great too).
    Reckon I'd score it 8.5/10. Might have scored even higher if Ron hadn't nixed the inclusion of the marvellous Sword & Stone.

  • @Drumdude74
    @Drumdude74 2 месяца назад +1

    It's a really good album, a hair metal album for sure but I don't mind that at all, I grew up in that era, hair metal/speed and thrash were all new. I loved a lot of it and still do! Good show guys.

  • @guillermomaldonado6277
    @guillermomaldonado6277 2 месяца назад +2

    Great album for what they tried to acomplish. Love the hits; yes, sometimes I love the hits 🍺🤘

  • @strangeways75
    @strangeways75 2 месяца назад +2

    No Make Up era
    1. Lick It Up
    2. Revenge
    3. Crazy Nights
    4. Carnival
    5. Asylum
    6. Animalize
    7. Hot In The Shade

  • @Terry-r8b
    @Terry-r8b 2 месяца назад +3

    This is a very good record. 9/10

  • @bsrg550
    @bsrg550 2 месяца назад +2

    I love this album. Paul’s voice is at its peak. 9/10 for me.

  • @jakobjackson1919
    @jakobjackson1919 2 месяца назад +1

    My Favorite KISS album! Awesome video!

  • @lance98541
    @lance98541 2 месяца назад +1

    I jumped off the Kiss train with the solo albums and struggled with them ever since. Crazy Nights was not the worst Kiss album, but it is right up there with Unmasked for the worst of the stinkers.

  • @THEEArmoredSaint
    @THEEArmoredSaint 2 месяца назад +1

    I first became aware of KISS when they were featured on Donahue (talk show) and they ended up being my first concert when they toured in support of Hot in the Shade with Slaughter and Faster Pussycat opening. The album is a 6 out of 10, but I enjoy some of it and I feel good when I spin it (nostalgia).

  • @EvanBNW
    @EvanBNW 2 месяца назад +4

    It’s one of the few Kiss albums that I have a hard time listening to in its entirety. It’s down at the bottom with Psycho Circus and Hot in the Shade for me.

  • @bathtubgeorge
    @bathtubgeorge 20 дней назад

    Every few years I'll go through the collection for records to cycle through, especially if they've not been played in years, and sometimes they will resonate with me. the only inspiration I derive from Crazy Nights is to take the record off a few mins into playing it.

  • @hcondivine
    @hcondivine 2 месяца назад +1

    great episode. love crazy!!! 9.5 for me

  • @damienfoyer
    @damienfoyer 2 месяца назад +9

    This album is awesome, 8.5/10. Bruce Kulick shreds.

  • @alexsuperpower1
    @alexsuperpower1 2 месяца назад

    Love this album! One of my fav kiss albums.

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад +1

    maybe a Dynasty episode...the guys, go in and to make this Classic Rock record...and they did a pretty darn good job of it...I think it's Kiss's best record..

  • @dmac3316
    @dmac3316 Месяц назад +1

    Cool vid. I bought Crazy Nights when it came out, tried to like it but it fell flat. LIU was probably the last Kiss record I listened to most of the songs over and over as an album. After that it was usually just cherry picking songs off albums here and there. For Crazy Nights probably the only tune I’ve really listened to at all lately has been No No No. But even that’s been awhile. Most 80s KISS for me is going back to mostly Creatures, LIU, and Asylum

  • @JCStorm76
    @JCStorm76 2 месяца назад +6

    I’m still trying to work out how Turn On The Night wasn’t a hit. It was the perfect song at the perfect time. Not one of their better albums by any means though. I’m with Marco. I’ll give the album a generous 7/10. Genes songs are just average and were better on Asylum. The singles are definitely the best 3 tracks and most of Pauls songs are good as usual and help lift my rating.

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  2 месяца назад +2

      thank you! we're on the same page, Gene's songs were better on Asylum, I like the singles on this but tit for tat I prefer the big 3 from Asylum (Tears, Uh all Night and especially Who wants to be lonely) plus King of the mountain rocks.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад +1

      I agree, it’s a puzzler

  • @hardrockingtriviashow667
    @hardrockingtriviashow667 2 месяца назад +5

    The first time I heard the song "Crazy Crazy Nights" was at the video shoot for the song at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles. The Olympic is an old venue in a bad part of town famous for hosting boxing, wrestling, roller derby, and Punk shows in the 80's. During the video shot, Kiss lip synced the song over and over and over and over and over again. By the end of the 12 hour shoot, I hated the song and still can't listen to it today. I did get to meet Eric and Paul outside of the venue and KISS did plug in and played 3 or 4 songs live for the thousands of fans who showed up for the free video shoot.

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  2 месяца назад +2

      love that, very cool and if I listened to anything for 12 hours I’d probably hate it too!!

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад

      I think if I heard it for 12 straight hours straight I’d hate Crazy Crazy Nights

  • @jscssc464
    @jscssc464 Месяц назад

    I have a theory that in order to pay for Nevison (who likely had a hefty fee in 87), they dipped into the recording budget for the next album (what would become HITS). It was a gamble that unfortunately didn't pay off. Hence why HITS was basically a collection of dressed-up demos done on the cheap.

  • @hardrockingtriviashow667
    @hardrockingtriviashow667 2 месяца назад +1

    Martin Popoff on "Thief in the Night" Intro: "It starts off like a Gene Simmons bass farts song." LOL! WHAT? LOL!!!

  • @timholzer4081
    @timholzer4081 2 месяца назад +2

    Not in my top 10 Kiss albums. Kulick was the high point. Only half the album was really Kiss. The rest was filler. Creatures, Asylum were far better albums. I give Crazy Nights 6/10.

  • @petebrown3715
    @petebrown3715 2 месяца назад +3

    Great to see Marco on this panel.
    I don't care for this album at all. Too pop. 2.5 out of 10.

  • @johncostigan8747
    @johncostigan8747 2 месяца назад +1

    Guys….., GUYS!!!!!!
    *weeps*🤘😜

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад +1

      🤣I’m assuming you’re not a fan

    • @johncostigan8747
      @johncostigan8747 2 месяца назад +1

      @@parishofrock2963 Bottom third of the catalog for sure. A moment or two that I kind of liked, and it isn’t “Hot In The Shade”!! 😜

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад +1

    When the City Sleeps is a good Gene song

  • @davealmer3803
    @davealmer3803 2 месяца назад +4

    KissJovi

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад +1

    Kiss made two kinds of records.. where they're just "being Kiss"...or where they're stepping up their game to actively compete with the market...this is the latter...

  • @georgemathie8123
    @georgemathie8123 2 месяца назад +2

    This album to me has some excellent songs but at the very same time Ron nevison's production let's the album down on the very weak tracks and this is my favorite hard rock and melodic rock producer and I don't think he did kiss any justice with the production on this album and he did the same with heart, Chicago and more during this time

  • @cinderfox1
    @cinderfox1 2 месяца назад

    Bruce by far was their best guitar player!!

  • @uuu098
    @uuu098 2 месяца назад

    I agree with (I think it was Reed) that X in Sex and Rock Hard off Smashes were even more stupid than Bang Bang You etc. Crazy Nights wasn't really a flop- it went platinum and had two videos that made it to #1 on the Dial MTV daily countdown. Not as commercially successful as Bon Jovi obviously but Bon Jovi was on top of the world at this point, how could you compete?

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад

    I think Reason to Live was in rotation but then it got dropped by MTV...which hurt the record

  • @GrabAStackofRocK
    @GrabAStackofRocK 2 месяца назад +2

    Hated it for years...starting to soften on it.

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  2 месяца назад +2

      thats how i feel about HITS, i actually hear them making an effort to capture the sound of early Kiss on that one

    • @GrabAStackofRocK
      @GrabAStackofRocK 2 месяца назад +1

      @@thecontrarians2438 Yes they tried, definitely on that one, but I can't get into it. I hear what they were trying though.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад

      @@thecontrarians2438time can have that effect on you!🤣

  • @garym6688
    @garym6688 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm a lifelong Kiss fan, but I'm 100% with Martin all the way on this one. I remember being so amped up for this in 1987, and absolutely hating the lead single when I saw the video premiere on MTV. I held out hope that the rest of the album would be more to my taste, but that ended up not being the case. I know they delayed work on this album solely because they were waiting for Ron Nevison's availability, but IMO the results were not worth waiting for. It's one of the worst sounding albums in the entire discography as far as I'm concerned, but the songs themselves couldn't be saved no matter who was behind the board. In fact, the only three songs that I liked at the time (and even still) are the same three that Martin named: I'll Fight Hell To Hold You, When Your Walls Come Down & Thief in the Night. The other tracks range from meh to downright embarrassing (I'm looking at you, My Way & Bang Bang You). And their bid for the big ballad, Reason to Live, has decent verses, but gets let down by the chorus. From the first time I heard it, it sounded to me like Paul was trying to cram too many words into too short a space ... "EVERYBODY'SGOTAREASONTOLIVEBABY" It just sounded comical to me, and still does. To me, it's the epitome of a 5/10 album.

  • @cinderfox1
    @cinderfox1 2 месяца назад

    Crazy to me is Reason to Live wasn't a huge hit, it got MTV air play alot (Video was cool) and i think it's one of the best ballads from that time. It's my top 3 favorite Ballads next to Cinderella don't know what you got til it's gone being my favorite. Maybe it was because there just was too many good album and songs out in that time period.- Aerosmith, Poison, Heart, Whitesnake, GNR, Dokken, Motely

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад

    Lick it Up is my favorite '80s Kiss record

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад

    "soap opera chords..": but it's in prime time...sign me up! it's that existential crisis when you have a ton of $$ ..what's not to like?

  • @kevinmyles6369
    @kevinmyles6369 2 месяца назад

    7:18 dude, Ace was barely on The Elder cuz he didn't like the direction, he wasn't on board, so you can't really base on that one for Ace's skills.. lol

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад +1

    Ace wrote solos that you could sing...he sounded like a horn player...Bruce has more ability, but he's not better

  • @sarcastanaut
    @sarcastanaut 2 месяца назад +5

    Man, I guess I'm the Contrarian here; because I absolutely loathe this album. All it sounds like to me is a band struggling to stay relevant without any real personality and the songs are absolutely terrible. Bruce Kulick is playing his ass off, though.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад +2

      Tbf you’re not alone. Based on the comments it’s evenly split between those who love the album & those who don’t

  • @justinwhite9689
    @justinwhite9689 2 месяца назад

    Its an ok album bruce makes it decent for the weak songs

  • @justinwhite9689
    @justinwhite9689 2 месяца назад +2

    Asylum and animal and creatures was better

  • @infernusrex796
    @infernusrex796 2 месяца назад +1

    6/10

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  2 месяца назад

      sounds about right

    • @benedictdonald4338
      @benedictdonald4338 2 месяца назад

      Ranking the 80s
      1) Lick it Up
      2) Creatures
      3) Asylum
      4) Animalize
      5) Hot In the Shade
      6) Crazy
      7) Unmasked
      8) Elder
      No bad albums in the bunch.

  • @channelsurfer3710
    @channelsurfer3710 2 месяца назад

    I take it Martin isn't a fan of Robert Tepper either...

  • @jimilove7773
    @jimilove7773 2 месяца назад

    Bruce is no Vinnie!

    • @hardrockingtriviashow667
      @hardrockingtriviashow667 2 месяца назад +1

      Vinnie is a better song writer and speed player. Bruce isn't as flashy, but he's actually a great guitar player. I stood 3 feet away from him while he was playing in Union and he was all over the fret board and he made it look effortless. As human, Bruce gets the win over Vinnie.

    • @garrypeak4277
      @garrypeak4277 2 месяца назад

      And we should be thankful for that lol. The myth that Vinnie is this master craftsman song writer is hysterical to me.

  • @briandunlap8534
    @briandunlap8534 2 месяца назад +4

    Sorry, no sale. I hated this album then. I hate it now. Reason to Live is the only song I find passable. Easily, their worst album.

    • @JCStorm76
      @JCStorm76 2 месяца назад +1

      You don’t even like the title track or Turn On The Night at least? I think they have a few worse albums. For me it’s Carnival Of Souls

    • @benedictdonald4338
      @benedictdonald4338 2 месяца назад

      @@JCStorm76the title track is fairly weak, imo. Many stronger songs on the album.

    • @JCStorm76
      @JCStorm76 2 месяца назад +1

      @@benedictdonald4338 Not many better for me. It’s a classic

    • @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf
      @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf 2 месяца назад

      @@JCStorm76 the title track is probably the worst song they ever made

    • @JCStorm76
      @JCStorm76 2 месяца назад

      @@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf Not even remotely close. Haha.

  • @benedictdonald4338
    @benedictdonald4338 2 месяца назад

    Not their best…probably their weakest of the “unmasked” era, but “My Way” is a fantastic song.

  • @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf
    @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf 2 месяца назад

    Thanks God Martin saved the day, he's the only sane person on the panel😂
    I can't stand this album, it's the worst of 80's KISS and one of the worst in their catalogue.
    The songs, production, lyrics, keyboards - everything here makes me sick.
    And if I ever hear Crazy Crazy Nights again I'll probably jump out of the window. I can not imagine how anyone is able to enjoy this stupidity, it's just beyond my comprehension.
    I give this garbage album 1/10.

  • @blackscorpion-h8i
    @blackscorpion-h8i 2 месяца назад +3

    The second worst album in the entire KISS discography , the worst being Hot In The Shade. I rate it 2/10 , just an awful album.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 месяца назад

      Just shows this is a love it or hate it album, which is understandable

    • @benedictdonald4338
      @benedictdonald4338 2 месяца назад

      Hot In the Shade has too much filler, but two-thirds of the album is fantastic!!

  • @diamondd2778
    @diamondd2778 2 месяца назад

    4/10 its very very avg . Some weak songs. Fight hell to hold you is probably the best . Im sorry i like Bruce but as a 80s guitarist he's way way down the list. Its not a good album . The album cover is cool though.

  • @chriswoosley1697
    @chriswoosley1697 2 месяца назад

    why does this dude need an ink pen clutched in his hand to talk about KISS for 12 minutes?...weird

    • @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf
      @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf 2 месяца назад

      Maybe because he wrote some thoughts down to keep them in mind.

    • @chriswoosley1697
      @chriswoosley1697 2 месяца назад

      @@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf absurd

    • @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf
      @ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf 2 месяца назад

      @@chriswoosley1697 why? you never used a pen?

    • @chriswoosley1697
      @chriswoosley1697 2 месяца назад

      @@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf sure,but why, he's not writing...he's talking,...just weird

  • @DokkenSabbath
    @DokkenSabbath 2 месяца назад +2

    Crazy Nights is a solid 6/10. The good songs are really good. The bad songs are as bad as KISS got (My Way, Hell or High Water, When Your Walls Come Down). It also has mediocre/passable songs (Crazy, Crazy Nights, Bang Bang You and No, No, No). It's unbalanced and far from perfect, but it's decent overall. Reason to Live, I'll Fight Hell to Hold You, Thief in the Night and Good Girl Gone Bad are awesome songs.