The plan of .... U$: How to be a business man Step 1: create a problem (pipeline damage) Step 2: solve it (LNG 4X price) Then customers will treat you as their savior. Step 3: Wait for companies to go bankrupt. Step 4: Use the profit make from LNG to purchase these companies. = zero$purchase.
This is reason why Europe must have own military ...that will be deterense for everybody...now can be false flag from USA...but we can't do nothing ....we flow where need to flow (we will be star link users)
If a country is part of a larger community but separated from it by water, those cables are very important to it and it wouldn't want to start a trend of cutting them. If on the other hand it was a large landmass with no oversea territories it would have nothing to lose by starting this trend.
@evaluateanalysis7974 Skúste sa spýtať Nemeckej vlády vedia toho dosť aby ukázali prstom kto to bol ale teraz sa to nehodí. Ak si myslíte že si vymýšľam ako pracujú USA tak si zistite aké zámienky používali vždy keď sa im zachcelo niekoho napadnúť a nakoniec to nebola pravda. Ich trápna výhovorka bola a stále je že zlyhali tajne služby.
@@ospehu1 Sweden conducted an investigation but kept its findings secret. This indicates that the perpetrator was not Russia as they accused, because if there was evidence that Russia did it, they would have shouted about it in the media. Why Sweden did not reveal its findings and Germany did not force Sweden to reveal them, indicates that the perpetrators were their own allies. But fellow criminals covering up each other's crimes is nothing new in western hypocrisy.
@@ospehu1 In your reply to me, you stated "Ship seized, anchor recovered from seabed. Telecommunication under investigation and ship was located on area when cables was cut down". This is a very irresponsible camouflage. The closest recent news I could find is, "Finland recovers anchor in Baltic Sea cables investigation".
Western social media needs to tighten online platforms. Right now it’s filled with Russian/ Chinese/ Iranian bots. There must be 10 anti west bot comment to every one genuine comment made by a real westerner. Crazy.
It was Russia. Or did you miss the part where they invaded Ukraine and threatened turning off the gas completely? Also, leading up to the sabotage, they consistently kept claiming technical issues slowing down gas supplies. Seems obvious to me they ran out of excuses and just blew the damn thing up.
They aren’t sending a message. No pun intended. Kinda. They are cutting the cable. That’s not a message, that’s open act of aggression. Precursor to attack.
@@ospehu1 This is a very irresponsible camouflage. The closest recent news I could find is, "Finland recovers anchor in Baltic Sea cables investigation".
Have DW produced any evidence? E.g. the Baltic cable accident in November last year, several Baltic countries including Germany surrounded a Chinese ship on the sea, over the air, under the sea for 40 days to investigate. And even In the end, dozens of people boarded the ship to investigate, but they still couldn't come to any proofs. After spending 40 days investigating without any evidence, does DW still have the nerve to continue making accusations? Or even if there is no evidence but it is politics that politicians still need the false accusation? Or another possibility is to block the Baltic Sea as Russia's oil export route, so it made the cable break accident which can deliberately cause to frame to specific countries. This possibility is of course also understood because there were sufficient evidences for the Nord Stream pipeline explosion but the case was still not closed, while the culprit for the recent cable accident seemed to be found immediately but then no concrete evidence was found.
It just shows how Russians are so confident noone would do anything about it and have any concrete response to it. That ship did not even turned off their location online so anyone could see exactly what they were doing, exactly when their ship slowed down (at the location of those cables) and more. Missing anchor is a dead give away. Ships do not lose their anchors!
Guess which country has the longest history of sabotaging undersea communication cables? Which country refused to ratify UN law of the sea? Which country carries out the largest submarine cable wire tapping operation in the world? There can only be one.
You are busy talking about the under sea cables, what about the under water pipe lines, who blow them? Whatever you do to others can be done to you too..
A particular country likes to abuse the status of commercial, non military shipping very often indeed, no shame as said. "Nothing can be done", really ? What BS is that ?
The simple answer to that question is Yes. Russia in particular is cutting communication cables in the Baltic seas in order to hamper NATO efforts and readiness for war.
Every vessel entering he Baltic Sea has to pass through narrow Danish territorial channels, Storebælte and Öresund. It seem like a no-brainer to stop every suspicious vessel passing through and check their insurance and seaworthiness - apparently most of the Shadow Fleet will be unable to pass even a cursory inspection, and should not be allowed to proceed into the Baltic Sea unless all seaworthiness issues are corrected. That would put a crimp on Russian and Chinese hybrid warfare.
According to international law , you cannot ban a pass to a country that has acces to that sea shores . And it doesn't matter if you don't like russian or chineese insurance and only accept uk one .
@@nyashamanika8839 so better yet five me some prowen facts on this subject ( if you can) then maby just maby i mid consider you as an person that actually knows something in general.
Evidence please face value do not work in this situation. Since in the case of estlink two the ship has been siezed and crew is not allowed to leave the ship during the on investigation and anchor of ship has been recovered from seabed. So what evidence on your claims will you ?
The plan of .... U$: How to be a business man Step 1: create a problem (pipeline damage) Step 2: solve it (LNG 4X price) Then customers will treat you as their savior. Step 3: Wait for companies to go bankrupt. Step 4: Use the profit make from LNG to purchase these companies. = zero$purchase.
No one is attacking anyone. Accidents have been occurring with under sea cables, except Nordstream pipelines of course. However, if these are the kind of media platforms people rely on for information, they are lost just like the media platform presenters themselves.
Leta assume the Nordstream was attacked by Ukraine or USA, but these attacks against Finnish cables were done by Russians. From that point of realities, originagor doesn't know what he is talking about or is trolling for rubles.
Source of evidence that shows that EU or NATO did darn thing to Nordstream pipe lines please. And if you can not provide them Russian maskirovka dose not cut it as evidence.
Just like the destruction of Nord Stream that led to certain countries' LNG export exponentially increase, a cutting of undersea hard lines would benefit those that operates space based internet... I wonder who would have the incentive to do that...
Nobody uses 'space based internet' in Finland, lovely narrative from Russia by the way. Our network has multiple cables, and Russia didn't manage to cut our network. Total defence, ever heard about it?
It is easy - relate it to the German civilian looking ships/ civilian ships that were remade into the warships - they still looked like civilian ones but once the camouflage was off it has been clear that a certain ship was actuallly a warship
I will ask one question do nato want to fight hybrid war or World war 3? . Nato keep giving missiles, weapons to Ukraine and with that Russian soldiers killed in action then when Russia react with hybrid warfare then Russia becomes terrorist state. Who told nato to go between Russia vs Ukraine war ?.
States cannot just start wars against each other and should be punished for starting wars. And yes, if one does it and doesn’t get punished it doesn’t mean others can do it
Trump want greenland, Mexico and Canada. What nato will do nothing. America drop Nuclear bomb on Japan . Nobody did nothing innocent civilian killed Israel killed civilian what did nato do ? Nothing Only when Russia does something it's huge problem hypocrisy .
So you think that school yard bully can bunch any one of hes class mates and expect no one shall do anything as an reraliotation. You mid want to grow up to be adult
The undersea war started when Nord Stream 2 was blown up.
And we still don't have investigation results from the West...
Any evidence of who did it?
The plan of ....
U$: How to be a business man
Step 1: create a problem (pipeline damage)
Step 2: solve it (LNG 4X price)
Then customers will treat you as their savior.
Step 3: Wait for companies to go bankrupt.
Step 4: Use the profit make from LNG to purchase these companies. = zero$purchase.
Bs
Nonsense. This undersea pipe of near 3 years ago has nothing to do with the current events where Russia wants to deteriorate support for Ukraine.
Just prohibit dropping anchor within 5 nautical miles from vulnerable areas under pain of seizure.
DW News: Are Russia and China conducting undersea sabotage?
Me: You mean like Nord stream??
DW- News is becoming pathetic news.
Any evidence of who did it?
@evaluateanalysis7974 Trump: It's China, it's always China.....
@@inzidenziaschulz7972 for non political news is still a good media. For geopolitical....
DW is state funded.
Its easy to say russia and china, is that what they always had on their mind?
This is reason why Europe must have own military ...that will be deterense for everybody...now can be false flag from USA...but we can't do nothing ....we flow where need to flow (we will be star link users)
Nord Stream 2? DW dare not point their finger at Uncle Sam, because Germany is only a US colony.
Sad, but true. Vote BSW!
Well it's been proven at this point that it was Ukrainian spec ops... You should be happy to live in an American colony instead of a Russian one
Don't Drink and Write Dimitry.
@@ProleCenter Thre threre Vladimir better you go and ask for another Deholified Cross from your KGB buddy.
If a country is part of a larger community but separated from it by water, those cables are very important to it and it wouldn't want to start a trend of cutting them.
If on the other hand it was a large landmass with no oversea territories it would have nothing to lose by starting this trend.
ha they were pretty quiet when the Nordstream pipeline was blow up..maybe the US were involved again ..
Or aliens..
Any evidence of who did it?
@evaluateanalysis7974 Ak dôkazy sú tak ich nezverejnili lebo Ukrajina teraz dôkazy nemajú tak si ich vymyslia vieme ako pracujú USA a ich spojenci.
@@luki7369 "they make it up..." You show no evidence then claim "we know how the US and its allies work." It sounds like *you* are making it up.
@evaluateanalysis7974 Skúste sa spýtať Nemeckej vlády vedia toho dosť aby ukázali prstom kto to bol ale teraz sa to nehodí. Ak si myslíte že si vymýšľam ako pracujú USA tak si zistite aké zámienky používali vždy keď sa im zachcelo niekoho napadnúť a nakoniec to nebola pravda. Ich trápna výhovorka bola a stále je že zlyhali tajne služby.
Assertions made without evidence can be ignored without evidence
@@G-gh1no Like what? Inference is not evidence.
Germans, somehow you dont care about Nort stream....
@@PericMiladin so some evidence that EU or NATO has nothing to do whit Nordstrean pipelina and maybe we can talk again will you ?
@@ospehu1
Sweden conducted an investigation but kept its findings secret.
This indicates that the perpetrator was not Russia as they accused, because if there was evidence that Russia did it, they would have shouted about it in the media.
Why Sweden did not reveal its findings and Germany did not force Sweden to reveal them, indicates that the perpetrators were their own allies.
But fellow criminals covering up each other's crimes is nothing new in western hypocrisy.
@@ospehu1you are so naive 😂
@@ospehu1
"we've been investigated ourselve and found out its not us"
@@ospehu1 In your reply to me, you stated "Ship seized, anchor recovered from seabed. Telecommunication under investigation and ship was located on area when cables was cut down". This is a very irresponsible camouflage. The closest recent news I could find is, "Finland recovers anchor in Baltic Sea cables investigation".
look at all those scream bots crying about ns2
lol your not from Eu countries, just bot farms and whataboutisme
DW is swarmed by them and should probably just turn off the possibility to comment.
@@fajrfighter very democratic
The amount of russian bots and war defenders is insane 😂😂😂 have some shame
Western social media needs to tighten online platforms. Right now it’s filled with Russian/ Chinese/ Iranian bots. There must be 10 anti west bot comment to every one genuine comment made by a real westerner. Crazy.
@@awellculturedmanofanime1246 its a bot Tsunami 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really shows the gremlin in the kremlin is really touchy about this subject lmao
@AlreadyTakenTag 🤣🤣🤣 Gremlin in the Kremlin 🤣🤣🤣 good one 👍🏻
NATO bot spotted
China destroyed the nordstream pipelines, 100%. LOL.
Yes and that is just a begining.
Forgot the cables between Norway mainland and Svalbard
Just like the Nord Stream pipelines. Just put the blame on Russia.
It was Russia. Or did you miss the part where they invaded Ukraine and threatened turning off the gas completely? Also, leading up to the sabotage, they consistently kept claiming technical issues slowing down gas supplies. Seems obvious to me they ran out of excuses and just blew the damn thing up.
Are they again blowing up their own pipelines?
Evidence?
@nigelgarrett7970 dw, cnn, bbc, nbc... all said so, no proof needed
The reality is that we are already at war at that this will escalate until it gets a more serious response.
They aren’t sending a message. No pun intended. Kinda. They are cutting the cable. That’s not a message, that’s open act of aggression. Precursor to attack.
prolly done by US navy seal to sow discord between China and EU
Started by the US.
@@tobiisiba1641evidence? Didn't think so
Whoever is causing these disruptions is taking on a karmic debt that has to be paid in full.
How do you know it's "they" who did it?
Ask Joe Biden who blow up the Nordstream pipelines. If he still can remember.
Ship siezed, anchor recoverd from seabed. Telecommunication under investigation and ship was located on area when cables was cut down
@@ospehu1 This is a very irresponsible camouflage. The closest recent news I could find is, "Finland recovers anchor in Baltic Sea cables investigation".
@@Jerry-sf3vd well to bad for you since i happen to know on wich harbor it is as we speak
@@ospehu1 I appreciate more evidence. No inference please.
Have DW produced any evidence? E.g. the Baltic cable accident in November last year, several Baltic countries including Germany surrounded a Chinese ship on the sea, over the air, under the sea for 40 days to investigate. And even In the end, dozens of people boarded the ship to investigate, but they still couldn't come to any proofs.
After spending 40 days investigating without any evidence, does DW still have the nerve to continue making accusations?
Or even if there is no evidence but it is politics that politicians still need the false accusation?
Or another possibility is to block the Baltic Sea as Russia's oil export route, so it made the cable break accident which can deliberately cause to frame to specific countries. This possibility is of course also understood because there were sufficient evidences for the Nord Stream pipeline explosion but the case was still not closed, while the culprit for the recent cable accident seemed to be found immediately but then no concrete evidence was found.
What are you talking about, there is no evidence for nordstream
It just shows how Russians are so confident noone would do anything about it and have any concrete response to it. That ship did not even turned off their location online so anyone could see exactly what they were doing, exactly when their ship slowed down (at the location of those cables) and more. Missing anchor is a dead give away. Ships do not lose their anchors!
Because they did nothing false flag to sanction the oil fleet that's not insured by london😂
US destroyed Nordstream. Why shouldn't Russia or China.
Guess which country has the longest history of sabotaging undersea communication cables? Which country refused to ratify UN law of the sea? Which country carries out the largest submarine cable wire tapping operation in the world?
There can only be one.
Who?
Not bashing the Vatican again?
They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”
Excellent interview, your guest was spot on.
China exists
Dw : i hate that
You are busy talking about the under sea cables, what about the under water pipe lines, who blow them? Whatever you do to others can be done to you too..
Evidence?
Ask china
If the American and her allies did not destroyed the Nord Stream 2 pipeline…
Your evidence is?
You were so quiet on the Nordstream. Why throw a fit now?
Any evidence of who did it?
Need to invest in helicopter and underwater drones to automate the surveillance duty.
Why is this happening, what is the root reason? Think it's the key to resolving this issue. Only heard of consequences...
A particular country likes to abuse the status of commercial, non military shipping very often indeed, no shame as said.
"Nothing can be done", really ? What BS is that ?
The simple answer to that question is Yes. Russia in particular is cutting communication cables in the Baltic seas in order to hamper NATO efforts and readiness for war.
Like the North Stream pipeline 😊
WW2 submarines - WW3 merchant ships.
Deep sea trawlers and anchors cant cause this kind of damage
What did she say about sovereignty of one's EEZ? UNCLOS out the window? I wonder what countries are not a signatory hmmm
Not bashing Venezuela again?
DO SOMETHING INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IT.
I am sure is the Chinese blow up the nordstream, it is a shame to cut a few cables, is this a children's game.
Uncle SAM be like , ok I'm free do anything 😂😂😂😂
Anyone here wants to whinge, upset, patriotic pls go to Ukraine and prove your toughness
You fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! ….here we got double digit yet?
Nord stream russian was bomb all Germany did was to remain silent despite being part of it .
It's usually 3 strikes and you're out... But yes, let's keep asking the same question over and over
Nord stream 2 pipeline investigation status 😂
Every vessel entering he Baltic Sea has to pass through narrow Danish territorial channels, Storebælte and Öresund. It seem like a no-brainer to stop every suspicious vessel passing through and check their insurance and seaworthiness - apparently most of the Shadow Fleet will be unable to pass even a cursory inspection, and should not be allowed to proceed into the Baltic Sea unless all seaworthiness issues are corrected.
That would put a crimp on Russian and Chinese hybrid warfare.
According to international law , you cannot ban a pass to a country that has acces to that sea shores . And it doesn't matter if you don't like russian or chineese insurance and only accept uk one .
Nord stream pipeline right?
Sohw some evidence whom cut that pipe line. If you can not your responce is meaningless
@ospehu1 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@nyashamanika8839 so better yet five me some prowen facts on this subject ( if you can) then maby just maby i mid consider you as an person that actually knows something in general.
Only US can do this, sure thing.
I am trying to figure out a scenario , of a war between US, china and Russia , will us even stand a chance
Nordstream too..
But Germany swallowed it because it was USA.😂
Source: "Trust me bro."
@@paulsteaven Who do you think did it ?
@@paulsteaven Joe Biden!
Evidence please face value do not work in this situation. Since in the case of estlink two the ship has been siezed and crew is not allowed to leave the ship during the on investigation and anchor of ship has been recovered from seabed. So what evidence on your claims will you ?
Evidence?
It's okay for the EU and us Todo it to other countries but it can't be done to them 🤔🤔
Evidence?
No, but the west are
Maybe it's Elon trying to promote Starlink and sattelite connectivity
Why are they so cold,can they say something.😅
Of course they are. What are you going to do about it? Lip service?
The plan of ....
U$: How to be a business man
Step 1: create a problem (pipeline damage)
Step 2: solve it (LNG 4X price)
Then customers will treat you as their savior.
Step 3: Wait for companies to go bankrupt.
Step 4: Use the profit make from LNG to purchase these companies. = zero$purchase.
Just like something happened to Russian gas pipeline?
No one is attacking anyone. Accidents have been occurring with under sea cables, except Nordstream pipelines of course.
However, if these are the kind of media platforms people rely on for information, they are lost just like the media platform presenters themselves.
Yes, that's the same actor from nordstream pipies, cables, ect.
Evidence?
Leta assume the Nordstream was attacked by Ukraine or USA, but these attacks against Finnish cables were done by Russians. From that point of realities, originagor doesn't know what he is talking about or is trolling for rubles.
FYI. Undersea cable is the *main backbone* of the next civilization *(Orwellian society).* 😂
Yes
I wonder what these 🤡 expected after destroying the Russian Nordstream pipeline
Source of evidence that shows that EU or NATO did darn thing to Nordstream pipe lines please. And if you can not provide them Russian maskirovka dose not cut it as evidence.
Any evidence of who did it?
Thanks to Olaf Scholz's wise decision, my bills were doubled! Now I'm waiting for the election. I'm so excited! Hurrah!!
Most probably Sadam Hussein is responsible .
No one in the German media is talking about the bombing of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which is bizarre.
Nothing new - NATO is afraid of Russia - is it really a military alliance? 🤣
Hmmm. What happened to pipe line under see ? Now you are wondering about see cable ??????? Hippocrates
Nord Stream.....
Evidence?
Who exploded nord streams?
Who indeed. Do you have any evidence for who destroyed something that was not being used?
@@nigelgarrett7970that's the question.. who ?.
Hostile countries?
Who blown Nordstream 🤣🤣🤣
I don't know, why don't you tell us?
@evaluateanalysis7974 who is threatening more tariff, if they don't buy more gas and oil🤣🤣🤣 that's the answer
@@sportszone9159 "who is..." What? Try a decent translator.
Just like the destruction of Nord Stream that led to certain countries' LNG export exponentially increase, a cutting of undersea hard lines would benefit those that operates space based internet... I wonder who would have the incentive to do that...
Nobody uses 'space based internet' in Finland, lovely narrative from Russia by the way.
Our network has multiple cables, and Russia didn't manage to cut our network. Total defence, ever heard about it?
Dw know but dont want spoiler 😂
You completely forget to talk about Nordstrom 2 Shame on You
Don't worry, the Russian trolls are making up for it by talking about the destruction of something that was no longer being used.
YES YES & YES
It is easy - relate it to the German civilian looking ships/ civilian ships that were remade into the warships - they still looked like civilian ones but once the camouflage was off it has been clear that a certain ship was actuallly a warship
UE are all clown
I will ask one question do nato want to fight hybrid war or World war 3? .
Nato keep giving missiles, weapons to Ukraine and with that Russian soldiers killed in action then when Russia react with hybrid warfare then Russia becomes terrorist state.
Who told nato to go between Russia vs Ukraine war ?.
States cannot just start wars against each other and should be punished for starting wars. And yes, if one does it and doesn’t get punished it doesn’t mean others can do it
Someone doesn't know how proxy war works.
@@QueenElizabeth1sth Who destroyed nordstream pipeline?
What did Germany do then after nordstream was destroy.?
Nothing. Scared of America.
Trump want greenland, Mexico and Canada.
What nato will do nothing.
America drop Nuclear bomb on Japan .
Nobody did nothing innocent civilian killed
Israel killed civilian what did nato do ?
Nothing
Only when Russia does something it's huge problem hypocrisy .
So you think that school yard bully can bunch any one of hes class mates and expect no one shall do anything as an reraliotation. You mid want to grow up to be adult
Unrestricted warfare 📕 1999
least apocalyptic mainstream media message nowadays
Did we already forget about nordstream
😂😂😂you can only erase comments
primitive LIE
Why has it anything to do with China? 😂 It's too far away from Europe and not a stake holder in this Ukraine conflict.
Chinese vessels (2 diffrent vessels) broke Finnish cables.
Why are you commenting matters if you are that ignorant, unless you are paid to publish BS?
I tought the usa
BS DW🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
kek free pal well you know XD
what about nord stream 2?😢
Who is benefiting? Elon musk,then who is behind this attack 😂😂😂
Why was China even mentioned?? PRC is more than half a world away. And, what would they gained from it?
All it had to do was incite fear of China and it achieved its goal.
Liz Truss bought a submarine.
Kacapik bots still running old script
Are they? :))
The Chinese and Russian bots in the comments are as predictable as one would expect. Deflection, delusion, confusion.
Everyone I disagree with must be a bot Wan wan Wan