Sketchy Hitch replacement.
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Hey guys, Well, This should be an interesting one. This crazy trailer had been modified to accept or use a regular style trailer receiver, and..... it broke. I really didnt like having to swap it out since it looked so sketchy but It wasnt as bad as it looked once I started. Still not fun but it ended well. Let me know what you think. Thanks for the support in advance and thanks for the follow.
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In a workshop where welders wield their might,
Came a call to Isaac, a welding delight.
A rented trailer in a dire connection,
The coupling broke, a welder's reflection.
Isaac arrived with his helmet agleam,
To fix the coupling, a metallurgic dream.
He grinned, "Fear not, my dear friend,
We'll weld this tale to a proper end!"
Sparks flew like fireworks, a welding display,
Isaac worked wonders in his own unique way.
To the renter, he said with a laugh,
"No more worries, just a smooth towing path.
Your trailer's ready, now good as new,
Thanks to Isaac, the welding virtuoso, too!"
With a nod and a spark, he saved the day,
The trailer now fixed, ready to roll and sway!
The Way of the Welder!
lol its all in a days work though for him
People always tell me I’m dumb for messing with hitches. I always tell them I’d rather do them because I know my capabilities and my family drives on the same roads at these trailers. I’d rather me do them, and it done right, than some 18year old fresh out of high school. At the end of the day, I’ll go home knowing it was done right.
Same. But I deal with mining and constructiuon equipment and every job is different. Like last week I was doing a lip on a 988 rock bucket, and monday I finish the 785 haul truck bed.
i seen homemade trailers and that was smaller being behind f150s but this is framer spec, for a city street its horrible for a trailer that size, this bologna was together not robot quality
The hitch looks small compared to the mighty trailer. In the UK we have 50mm ball type but not quite like this one.
I was asked to help put a drop hitch together. I declined but later found out he had a friend do the work with his cheap Amazon welder.
@@rbhe357 that’s exactly why I accept doing the work! I’d hate for my family to be on the road with work like that!
Looks like it was a pintle hitch trailer that they cut the front off of and put that cobbled up mess on instead
@landonsmith1621..yeah I think you are correct...looks like a mess for sure...b
I agree landon and the chopping around of the trailer hitch makes me suspicious.
I have had a trailer try to throw me off the road when I miss loaded it and I have also had another trailer without brakes and to heavy a load try and push me into an occupied roundabout! Moral of the story, you don't take risks with trailers, their brakes or how they are loaded! You are dealing with the Laws of Physics and they are not negotiable!
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
@markfryer9880 I would bet that trailer has no working brakes.i wouldn't touch that unless I was putting the proper hitch on it. A death trap waiting for a victim.
@marklowe330 but they do have a break away switch installed. Of course the pull cord is evidently not attached to the tow vehicle properly. The pull cords NOT supposed to be attached to the safety chains
@@marklowe330 yes and now all the liability is on Mister Issac. I hope he takes our advice and puts a Pintle Lunette on it.
You did a great job cleaning up a mess I’ve been welding for 45 years I’m never surprised anymore at some of the things people cobble together and take it up and down the highway if we only knew the dangers that were on the road we would never leave home I’m glad you were able to clean it up
Totally agree. Ive seen some interesting things myself.
Hey let's keep welding crap on it to make stronger. Those type of latches are really good for their rated towing, The way that ones on their tells me they are a wee bit over what it's rated for. That trailer looks like it had a ring hitch on it.
yep , needs a ring hitch with a much higher wt rating
Ok I'm not the only one that thought it should have a lunette ring on it. They sell multipurpose hitches that can tow either a 2 5/16 ball or a pintle setup. Customer should go that way. Plus I've seen this style of hitch bust open when backed at a tight angle, would not have one on any of my trailers
That trailer definitely came with a pintle ring installed on it. I am willing to bet it had a piece of 1/2" x 6" wide plate with multiple holes welded vertically on the end of the tongue. I worked on a very similar trailer and the V at the end of the tongue was so you could access the nuts that attach the pintle ring.
Definitely with you guys on the Pintle and ring fitting. The part supplied to Isaac doesn't seem to be rated enough for that trailer, given the size of the drawbar members. They appear to be sized for a large commercial trailer towed by a dump truck and carrying a medium excavator and a bobcat. They definitely require pintle and ring sets and decent quality thick chains. Plus breakaway brake system.
But that's only from what I see on the roads around Melbourne and what would I know? 😅
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Agree with everyone too. The trailer looks like it’s made to haul a D8 but it’s modified in some way to haul windows or something like that. My experience with that type of hitch wasn’t good. Had a lots smaller trailer I hauled small load of hay and straw bales and busted it out the side backing it up to the barn. But there are lots pulling huge loads with half ton pickups and janky trailers all over this country and get away with it. I wouldn’t get out the driveway and DOT would be waiting on me to hit the road.
Issac, this is more the type of repairs I have been sent on....
nice to see the way you approached this,,,,,
that feeling a big pit in your stomach when you see what you
have been sent to repair was always the worst part of the job....
thanks for sharing, Paul
Never seen a cobbled up mess like that before
My first impression was to walk off and leave the liability to someone else. But, as always, you pulled off in style. Still, a new hitch on that trailer was like putting lipstick on a pig.
that comment made my day - welcome to monday !
I kept thinking just leave that mess and go across the street to Whataburger😉
Good work though.
@@kevinmccarthy9780, no Whataburgers here , I miss Whataburger.
There was a guy driving down the freeway the other day with a trailer similar to that one. The hitch was ok, but the welds broke on one of the axle spring brackets and the axle came out from under the trailer. It hit four cars before coming to a stop. Come to find out, it was repaired by the owner, and it was apparent he didn't know how to weld. Good thing we have people like you making sure these things are done right and safe for other drivers as well.
I’d be afraid to touch that thing the liability of that repair would scare me away. You’re a braver man than me.
Thank you Sir for this video.
This type of trailer normally has a pintle hitch.
it was downgraded lol
I’m sure they kept the same tow rating with the down graded hitch. 😅
You did a fine job. However the original hitch and its replacement look inappropriate for the capacity of that trailer. They should’ve been a heavier hitch.
Regardless of the situation, that trailer should not be on a public hi-way. Scary!
That' style coupler is commonly found on horse trailers and not really up to the task of a heavy construction trailer. I kept thinking that there were far better ways to repair it than to duplicate the failed hitch. It all made sense to me when you said that the trailer was borrowed and the customer just wanted you to put it back to where it started. As always, you did a fine repair job but I can't help but wonder about liability issues. Thanks for the video!
Agreed there, that trailer is obviously towing stuff it was never intended to haul.
Award for puzzle solving, award for having patience excellence, and gouging and welding above and beyond. It's sketchy but you made it look way better and as strong as it can be with what there is to work with. The load on the trailer is nothing compared to what that poor trailer has seen at times!
😂😂😂 facts
"No, no, that's not factory."
See, that's why Isaac is the professional! I never would have guessed that wasn't factory welding. 🤣
Those DOT sign trailers are dropped off at the construction site by the sign manufacturer. Then the contractors move them around from location to location as they install the signs. The contractors abuse them, move them about with any piece of equipment they have available, pull them through the mud, turn them over, totally wreck them. Most of them could never pass a DOT inspection, they get a pass. The lights are typically jacked up, no brakes, no nothing. You did good, they are lucky to find you to fix this. They dont care and obviously dont take care of their trailers. This one should have been out of service years ago and cut up for scrap.
That explains a whole lot about how this mess came about. The sign company doesn't want to send a good trailer out with the signs because it will get wrecked, and then when something like this happens and the contractor has to fix it, they have no reason to pay for anything more than "put it back like it was" because it's not their trailer.
Your work was solid, ISAAC. The tongue on that was a mess. Blows your mind why they didn’t leave the pintle set up on.
You can only do what the customer wants!👍👍
It does make you wonder what happened that they did a reverse cut back into the web of the beam to create a bird's mouth cut and then weld a rated ball hitch to all of it. Good thing that it is being used to only haul signs. Definitely a construction project site trailer.
@@wromzick9457 I would not be surprised if that bar in the front with the birds mouth is so that the owner can pick it up and move it with other equipment that does not have a hitch and it gives them an easy area to grab.
I'm glad you have film of what you started with, just in case.
Yes it’s called CYA
"Sketchy". That is one way to describe it. Weird looking and oddball. A very tidy repair that Isaac. Looks like the sort of farm trailer repair I have been asked to repair in the past when a customer has bought a trailer straight from an auction sale!
And to believe that someone somewhere was proud of that 😖
I'd at least trust it now. Solid work Isaac!!
Hideously light hitch for that big of a trailer. Wouldn't blame you if you had refused the job.
Welding right next to the highway, a bit of a wonder that the cops didn't pull in and make you put up some welding screens/curtains. That would be a major arm-waving event in California, freeway evacuated, drivers hospitalized, air ambulance called in... etc etc.
You certainly turned chicken $hit into Chicken salad on this one!
In my youth I worked at a brake and muffler shop, the owner also built custom trailers for various government agencies, and we often were called on to fix bad trailers either from said agencies or the public. The goober welded snot rocket fixed that we saw were scary, it was really terrifying to think that these time bombs flying down the highway right beside you at 60mph 😱
Every time a disaster like that came into the shop the boss would bend over backwards to make it right even if he lost money on the job. He just could not live with himself to let a ticking time bomb like that back on the road.
I'm glad you got it fixed up, but yeah, that was a mess.
Cheers from Tokyo!
This is one of those jobs where you feel like you should update your tetanus shot after. 😬 I can definitely relate to the unique feeling of working on someone else's sketchy junk.
last shot was in '16. I remember well.
You are like a surgeon with that arc gouger. 👏👏👏 well done
People are pulling a heavy trailer that's most likely over loaded and are using the wrong hitch in the first place. Happens all of the time.
Good job fixing it up 👍
Another wonderful video Isaac. With the liability involved in fixing that trailer that looks barely road worthy and is clearly overloaded most of its life I'm amazed you took on the job at all. You,sir, clearly know your craft and understand your capability. An inspiration to anyone with a solid work ethic. I would venture a guess that with all that hammer swinging you wished your son was with you on that job😁
I enjoy watching you work and you were a lot more patient with this one that I would have been. I would have wanted to refabricate the whole thing and in doing so I probably would have pissed the customer off and he would have gone elsewhere. Guess it's a good thing that I'm a farmer and don't weld professionally, just for myself. I've seen a lot of ways of mounting a hitch to the front of a trailer, but this one takes the cake for being the most amount of work as well as a shitty way of doing it at the same time.
Looks like a lot of liability to fabricate that kinda mess.
Get ya some swag to sell. I’d buy an IC Weld t-shirt to support. Thanks for sharing what you do. I finally went and got off my lazy and bought an oxy torch setup because of your videos. You inspire. Thanks!
...just the wrong hitch from the get go... needs a pintle hitch IMHO. That "design" looks like some monstrosity I'd do on my own stuff 'just to get by'... LOL
Looks like a horrible way to convert a pintle trailer to a ball hitch but great job on working with what they gave you. They make a ball hitch that will bolt onto the face plate of a pintle trailer. Call them flat mount ball hitches. I actually have that same hitch on a 12k equipment trailer. I like that style hitch, but actually considering cutting it off to put on a face plate that would accept pintle ring, or ball hitch.
Looks like a 15 ton tag trailer that would have originally had a lunette ring for a pintle hitch. From what I've seen usually the style coupler that's on there now is only rated for a max of 15k or so. But looking at how they're using the trailer now I really doubt it's loaded to the max. Maybe hauling glass, windows, doors or something? Should be fine.
I watch your channel to reinforce the fact that I at least come up to 85% or better of the work a professional like you would do on a job. I really dislike these kinds of jobs and have done too many of them but you gotta pay bills !!!!
Looks like an old trailer house frame that the tongue has been severely overloaded on. Obviously should have a pintle hitch on it.
Great job but on things like this in your business I would use some 6010 and write BUBBA'S WELDING on that frame lol.
Encourages me that we do things similarly. Thanks for the tip about needle scaling instead of grinding 👍
I'm pretty sure that trailer either had a donut ring that was welded to the front of it or some type of c-channel as I usually see with bolt on attachments and they decided they didn't want that and rigged up what they got at Harbor Freight instead gotta love it
Yeah no thanks, pass.
Under sized coupler and chains. Not worth my liability.
First time I've ever seen a silk purse made from a pigs ear! Congrats.
That whole thing looked sketchy af, probably too light duty a hitch for a trailer that size as well.
TBH that whole hitch style looks extremely prone to failure in comparison to the Ringfeder system we use in Australia.
Well done Isaac, you made a fine job of polishing that turd!!
If that was my trailer, it would have a pintle ring. 😬 Which is almost certainly what it was built with anyway.
Brother this is a tough one, liability wise, mobile home frame, it’s definitely a hazard on the road, but like Mad Max said he fixes them because he and his family are on the road as well. I appreciate you guys.
I saw whataburger in the background across the street…… time for a reward for a job well done!
I feel for ya!!!!
Just did one yesterday. 2hrs to cut whatever it was they called a hitch out of there and another 5hrs to install an rebuild the front end of the trailer.....
More than likely, it will out live me now.....
wow I hope they don't put anything on that trailer. the trailer alone is over weight for that ball size. would have told the customer we do things right around here. looks good yes but right no like you said sketchy
I find myself fixing a fleet of trailers from time to time. Each time I reweld a hitch..I inspect the entire trailer end to end and find more problems, cracks end to end...that trailer looks like it needs a ring for a pintle hitch.
Welding onto that hitch ball socket area is not something I would ever do. also I would never weld chains on a trailer, bolted to the frame is the best way.
This hitch looks more like a beginner's night mare than just a mess. Makes one ask why would anyone would do this? If your hauling that big of a load. Get a bigger trailer
What a conglomeration, you did the best you could Issac. Well done.
Definately should have a MASSIVE lunet ring for a pintle setup, instead of a tiny ball hitch setup.
Holy Idiot Rod, What kind of crazy hitch set up is this...
I’m new to welding. I learn an amazing amount of techniques with each of your videos. Thanks.
That POS has a number 15 on it. I hope there ain't another 14 of those out on the road.🍻
Maybe 15 ton or 15k lb rated trailer but with a 7,500 lb rated coupler? Maybe that is a mobile home frame? Maybe just the bolt on tongue was number 15. I sure hope it's for off rode use only.
Who else gives a thumbs up before even watching the videos?
Walk away from that don't take the responsibility of that shit
Almost looks like it was setup with a Penal Hitch first, then they cut it off and added a standard ball hitch... WOW.. is right.. LOL :)
you were never going to leave that crap looking like that you are to good to so that
Dr. Frankenstein is most pleased with the work you performed on his trailer. I would say A+ on the repair.
Love your channel. Definitely not in love with this particular job. At least your welds always look nice, even in that thin spot
I think everyone is worrying a tad bit too much. It was obviously working that way for a long time and now the hitch will outlast the rest of the trailer.
Nice repair, you did what the customer wanted. Solid repair
That was a mess.....but awesome repair! Thanks for taking us along for for some arc gouging/stick action!
That’s normal for Issac, he gets some ugly looking things, I wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole.
Let you know what I think of their setup..
Wrong hitch for trailer.
Again nice job always making it better than it was.👍
That is truly an oddball. I’m sure this configuration exists nowhere else in the universe. I could be wrong.
I have one word for that mess - liability. I would not be surprised if they routinely overloaded that trailer, which is why it was reinforced that way, after adapting it to fit their tow vehicle. If past behaviors continue, they might cause a trailer failure, and then the lawyers come looking for you. Getting stuck with even a part of a multi-million dollar claim can still destroy your business. There are jobs to walk away from, and this looks like one of them.
Looks to me like that trailer has been modified to carry aluminium signs for roads, so the load will be minimal compared to what it used to carry. I doubt that hitch will break. Here in the UK, that hitch wouldn't meet our regulations because it's folded steel, unbraked and not up to legal specification for the size and weight of the trailer.
Yes we have no idea as to how the trailer brakes are activated? 😢
This is quite possibly the sort of job that puts Isaac and his business at risk. This job makes me nervous for Isaac. He can weld it together just fine, but the whole trailer is suss. I am of the opinion that there should be a drawbar ring hitching to a pintle fitting on the tow vehicle. Is the tow vehicle heavy enough to tow that trailer with or without the aluminium signs?
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
That hitch was pretty sketchy. You made it better. As big as that frame is, it seems like it should have had a pintle ring on it.
The difference in your work and mine, I would have ground the pin on the new hitch only to THEN figure out it was a different size allowing me the opportunity to spend a whole day driving all around town looking for a replacement so I spend spend the second day installing it! Great video, almost always learn something for your work.
Dumb question...
Couldn't these people send you a few pictures/good pictures. So you have some kind of idea what your up against.
Great job as always 👍...
Your work was amazing about the whole job. The removal of the old hitch was a good teaching tool for those of us who haven’t done that kind of work.
Woah that loks like a farmer fabricated that trailer from a mobile home frame. I guess that tongue brace was there for some serious tongue weight.
Use ur LiL Welder u saY... lol I couldn't afford the paint job on that Miller..............
I guess you could have welded it from the inside too. But maybe it wasn't necessary. IDK, just wondering...
Yeeee'ya...... lol.... but" like always " job will'done ... A'HO... well"up brother
That's not the hitch that trailer came with, it had to have a duce an half on it
I have learned more about welding in the last year from you than anywhere else watching you gouge out the tongue on this trailer and weld a new tongue plate in was really educational great video
That was totally the wrong hitch for that size trailer. The sheet metal was way too thin for the weight of that trailer. Dexter 2-Tang Clevis w/ 3-Position Adjustable Channel - 3/4" Pin Hole - 12K
I’m confused, the US has the biggest pick ups and biggest trailers in the world… and that’s the hitch? 😳
🤣🤣🤣that's a trailer frame, like for double wides. Charge'em double for the headache.
I hate jobs like this! If a stranger brought that around we would send him away. If a good regular customer brought this in and you CAN'T say NO, we fix it free with no bill and tell them we never saw this thing...
I am slightly late to viewing this video…, and yes…, it was “uuuugly” to begin with. As per your usual, it is better than what it was, and 100% better looking.
Thank you sir.
Best to watch what ur doing sir Isaac learnin a lot from out here in the Philippines countryside Thanks for sharing
Good job on the fix.
But I wouldn’t have touched that job with a 10 foot pole. The weight rating of that trailer far exceeds the rating of that coupler and should be a 3 inch ball or a pintle ring. Way too much potential liability.
I would think if something were to happen with that trailer, DOT would love to find this video.
Love your channel you do good work, but I wouldn’t film something like this and put it on the Internet. Your livelihood is more important than views on RUclips.
Isaac! Now I'm beginning to get impressed twice per episode..... first the amazing skill in gouging, Welding, and fabricating...... but now also with your editing! I really liked the shots looking down the welding rod! Thanks for bringing us along..... that was quite the "special" hitch setup
Love watching your videos. You’re the “metal magician “ !
I do my own welding repairs and build a few metal projects
Thanks for the tips !
If the new coupler is 2 5/16 ball it's rated for 12,500 lbs. If the new coupler is a 2 " ball it's rated for 7,000lbs. The size of the I beam on that trailer is huge. I can't tell if the trailer is a tandem dual axle and if it is the trailer is probably rated for 24,000lbs. The front of that trailer probably had a vertical steel plate with drilled holes to accept a pintel ring or a bolt on coupler rated for the trailer. capability. DOT would have a field day with that mess!
Too bad you couldn't swap it over to the heavier duty adjustable style. Cut & plate the front so replacing the hitch is a simple 2 bolt process. You Definitely do Great Work!
IMHO, that hitch is far from having enough capacity to match that trailers capabilities.
Your comment about "somebody will do it if I don't" misses the fact that it's also somebody elses liability.
That hitch looks way too small for that trailer.
Successfully took chicken shit and made chicken salad
Great job as usual
That hitch looks really light-weight for the trailer?
"Customer is always right"...ok not really.
Some Peoples Kids. Trying to pull a 10 ton trailor with A half ton truck.
I am so happy to see professionals like you willing to do what the customer asks for and get the job done. I couldn't agree more that this is skecthy and scary, but like you said if you don't weld it someone else would and likely not as good as you did. So many people would have walked away, or charged the customer for a "stop charge" and walked away. Nice work as always I really enjoy your videos and watching you work!! You are a talented welder!!!!
Bro you do such a good job and you take pride in your work it’s amazing to watch!
Boy oh boy…. Some really mechanically lacking people out there. They ruined the value of that trailer with all that cluster f--k of metal!!
As someone else pointed out, that doesn't quite look like an equipment trailer that had value, so much as the frame off a destroyed mobile home.
Of course, that doesn't mean you're wrong.
In my opinion that's way too big of a trailer for a sketchy hitch setup like that. I would have done an adjustable u-channel pintle setup with a bolt on coupler like you welded on. Then the customer is happy and any owner down the line can put a proper pintle on. Just my opinion. You, as always did a fantastic repair with what the customer wanted you to do.
Nice work man you always make it look so easy I know it’s not. Have a great week
I agree, that's one ugly setup. You did a good job with what you were given. What I can't understand is why anyone sticks with those ridiculous ball type hitches on a trailer that would be much better served with a pintle type hitch. Way more user friendly, easier to install and maintain, and way safer as weight capacity is concerned. Ball hitches are for shitty boat trailers, and 4×8 utility trailers being pulled by a minivan.
Oh my! I wouldn't touch that job. Well, there would be no paperwork as I would won't no liability on that mess. That's so much not the correct hitch for a trailer of that size.
Here in Florida, it is somewhat common to see tandem axle trailers with one of the axles off or simply lacking the tires and rims for that axle.
Instead of the load being distributed between two axles as intended, the entire load is carried by one. I have no idea what these two-bit clowns (mostly small lawn service guys) are thinking. My guess is that they believe they can get better gas mileage by removing one of the axles. Not very bright; another common problem. Those hacked trailers should be seized and impounded by the cops if they catch these clowns pulling such an unsafe rig.
Level the trailer, level the hitch- send it. You made something nice out of crap that was given to you..Great job once again.
Looks like someone took an old mobile home frame and made a kind of trailer? Mobile home frames are trash metal to work with. You have done an amazing job with it.