I want situations like that to be literally every single time a space marine chapter gets involved with a battle. the guard troopers that have actual combat experience that is relevant to the fight at hand being able to perform better than the pumped up ego heads of the space marines
100% Eisenhorn only gets better from here. His trilogy is just one cohesive story and a constant upping of stakes and of how bombastic it is. And as much as I love Eisenhorn, Ravenor is, to me, even better. Better written, better paced, better character moments, etc. It goes Eisenhorn trilogy, then the Ravenor trilogy, then Magus, then the Bequin trilogy. The Bequin trilogy isn't finished, as apparently the third book is going to have some serious lore ramifications, stretching FAR beyond the Abnett-verse. ...the King in Yellow.
i was already considering reading ravenor and the others but this tips me over the edge for those. if those are BETTER? than the crazy awesome stuff in Eisenhorn, like, he goes everywhere from the crazy mechanicus contraption to the grungy underhives to xenos worlds, with all forms of the imperium on show, titans, space marines, void ships, skitarii, militarum... and with all this, Eisenhorn still feels like he has weaknesses, he's not invincible by any means and takes a lot of wounds... i didn't mean to end up writing a book review lol, ill check out those books you said for sure! great comment
Honestly, the hint/reveal/twist in Bequin is WILD. No idea how, or if, they're gonna be able to pull that off but boy oh boy am I psyched for the final book.
Eisenhorn is basically 40k Breaking Bad. You're at the part where he's still a school teacher and wondering why people hype up the show. Give it a chance
while I'm sure that's the case, I don't really feel like saying a book series gets better a more than a whole book into the series is kind of an unreasonable barrier to entry.
@@burnin8able It's about the journey you go on with these characters and the destination it leaves you in by the end. If Breaking Bad was more accessible and Walt was full blown Heisenberg by the end of the first season, it wouldn't have had any chance to build up the stakes and endear you to the characters. Nobody would have cared if Hank died in the first season, you barely know him. I'll be the first to say the first 2 Eisenhorn books are kinda mid. But it's a slow burn story and the final book has some crazy payoff for people who took the time to get invested in these characters. I'd say many 40k books are like that as well, it's not unreasonable in this setting. The Vaults of Terra has a similar burn, it 100% is worth sitting through two mid tier books of setup to get insane payoff from the third imo.
@@burnin8ablexenos is still a Good stand alone book. But reading the trilogy is like icing on the cake. I think the 7-7.5 score was a bad take, its an 8-8.5 book for sure. And for a 40k book its a higher score imo. Dan Abnett did grimdark not grim stupid
do the eisenhorn books get a bit more interesting as they go? because not sure why but I just wasn't super into this first book. I kinda thought it was just eh, which is a shame because I'm a big fan of the gaunt's ghosts series.
@@burnin8ableeisenhorn arguably has the best character arc of any single character. Its either him or Talos. I think the Eisenhorn trilogy reads best when you treat Xenos as "Act 1" instead of as its complete own thing
@@calebolds9609 that does sound interesting, and I am no stranger to long form character arcs, I read the Stormlight Archives after all, so I guess I will need to give the second book a go at some point. I guess I was mainly turned off by this book because for a book named Xenos, the aliens just seemed like a plot device, while chaos was the real villain.
Definetly read the other books. The four Eisenhorn books (Xenos, Malleus, Hereticus and The Magos) are all about how inquisitors have to tow the line of knowing chaos but not falling to chaos. Eisenhorn starts out as a puritanical inquisitor but due to some extreme circumstances he slowly becomes more and more radical until he is at serious risk of crossing that line. They are a great read
@@davidkazarossian7654 well, probably because the fourth book is part short story collection, part epilogue to the trilogy, and part set up for the Bequin books
@@sebastianholtsvendsen2597 i’m not so sure. It was a very good way to show the endpoint in Eisenhorns journey, to show where he ends up. I don’t think you can just skip it.
Part of what makes Eisenhorn so great is the characters. Eisenhorn himself is a fascinating individual, but characters like Aemos and Bequin really add a lot to the story and it's fun to see them all interact. I personally like Fischig, he's a no nonsense kind of guy who takes no bull. You can tell he'd never become someone's puppet.
I read/listened to the first three Eisenhorn books since you mentioned xenos as the book club. I really recommend reading them! I feel like characters grow and the story keeps you engaged. Also Uber Amos saying “most perterbatory” is my favorite thing
Do it guys, read the other books; they just get better. Remember the order though; the Eisenhorn trilogy, the the Ravenor trilogy, then Eisenhorn The Magos, then the Bequin books... Of which were still waiting for the third and final one, but now Dan has finished The End and the Death, it's now his main priority.
On Tonight's episode of the Ridiculous Tour: Bricky indulges in a 4 hour recitation of the rite of spring, played on the Eisen Horn, a wind instrument he himself invented. Reviews of his earlier performances include such phrases as "Awe full", "Soul scorching" and "Truly in a realm of his own" DK meanwhile is knitting a nice sweater. Did you know he can knit? He's very good at it. Shy paid me off to not write anything about her this time. All this and more to come!
If you really like the first Eisenhorn, then you will enjoy the other ones but you will LOVE the sequel series: Ravenor. It continues the story and is even better.
The mini of Eisenhorn is a recast of his first one from the Inquisitor spin off game. This was the first time a game made what most to know a space marine today. But back then we in the hobby knew them as "Hollywood marines"
I would really love to hear you guys go over Rynn's World and the associated short stories. The Crimson Fists are a pretty solid group of sm archetypal heroes.
You guys have to do the full trilogy! Then consider the Ravenor and Bequin series as well, as they somewhat continue the story. And man, things get intense in Hereticus and Malleus with Hereticus being my Ferdinand favorite of the three!
Eisenhorn gets REALLY good in the later books. I've recommended this trilogy to a couple friends, and they've really enjoyed it. Keep going with this, seriously.
@@jooseppielleese7156I would say that reading the Bile trilogy is a good understanding into Bile as a character and his circumstances before jumping into Genefather. Same with reading The Great Work which is Cawl’s.
I read Genefather before Bellisarius Cawl: Great Work, and I haven't read Bile Trilogy. I would say you don't need either to understand and enjoy, but Great Work makes some of the events in Genefather even more epic.
The eisenhorn books are solid, and I *really* like the bequin books. I bought hard cover copies or the two that are out, and I'm really excited for the third. The bequin books definitely go into the blank-ness a lot more, and some parts of the 40k story that normally only lore channels are even interested in.
When I hear cavill was doing something with 40k I immediately thought Eisenhorn bc it's a great story and seems much more doable than something like the HH or cadia or something.
Covering another first entry in a longer WH40K book series made me think about Ciaphas Cain again. His first book does have some dry stretches and early series weirdness, but I'm wondering if I got a better first impression of the character than DK and Bricky thanks to the short story that opens the physical omnibus. It wasn't much, but it introduced me to the type of adventures Cain would have real fast. I need to get back those omnibuses. I have three (don't know if there's been more), and I'm still early in the first. ADHD brain lost ability to read books the instant school was left.
This book was my first 40k audiobook and goddamnit was it amazing. Also pls do the next two books as it would explain the codicium rule. Edit: looking forward to Hereticus if you guys end up doing the rest of the trilogy.
They're going to love the next ones, I swear every time they mentioned beind unsure about something I got excited because that exact thing would be covered later
The ongoing Bequin books are actually my favorite of Dan Abnett's work. It has both a great protagonist and side characters. If the Eisenhorn books are James bond, then the Bequin books are Victorian horror.
Can’t wait to see you cover Lion Son Of The Forest. Such a great story, great character development for The Lion, plus getting to meet the Risen. In fact, meeting the Risen characters will introduce some subject matter that should be discussed in a separate episode (mainly another DA episode but focusing more on 30k era details). My most favorite are the following. Zabriel Lohoc Kai Launciel Galad Bevedan
The Triumph at the Spatian Gate (I think it's in the 2nd book) is probably my favourite scene in any 40k book i've ever read & i've read pretty much all of them. The Eisenhorn Trilogy was responsible for so many things we take for granted in the wider lore of the Imperium now & all 3 are required reading IMO for anyone who loves 40k. Also I just f*cking love Cherubael
I'm about 2-3 hours out from finishing the third book in the trilogy - I think you'll absolutely love some of the parts coming up. I really enjoy the saga, how its these characters dealing not just with one issue, but many. It also feels like you get a great snapshot across so many different ideas and opinions of the inquisition.
Malleus and Hereticus are wonderful dives into the madness and corruption of chaos. It is the reason he is known as the tortured servant of the throne and I would love to see you finish the trilogy!
i loved all the books about him and the other characters in these novels. I cried at the third book lmao. A great start to 40k stories, and the omnibus is great for all the short stories( which i think Bricky would love some because of the warhammer paint layer) "very epic" indeed
A little over a year ago I was only vaguely aware of Warhammer 40K. Xenos was the first novel I consumed and I finished the first Inquisition trilogy in the following week. The remaining two trilogies in the trilogy of trilogies, following Ravenor and Bequin, are not just worthwhile but I would argue required reader for a Warhammer fan. I cannot wait for the last book, Pandemonium to complete the journey. Seeing all the interconnected story arcs come together with the current finishing of the siege of terra stuff ( which I've only just now started after working through Guants Ghosts, some of the Hersey stuff, and a smattering of the standalone stuff) is incredibly satisfying.
Part two and three are a good read of the Eisenhorn Trilogy, you really get into inquisitorial politics and the inner politics of the imperium as a whole (which sounds boring but is quite fun when everyone has a bolt pistol to everyone’s head)
@15:50 Blanks are on a gradient, like Psykers: weaker Blanks just leave people a bit unsettled, while stronger ones banish most Daemons just by proximity. Of course, _any_ Blank is still a pretty serious asset given what Psykers can do, but they aren't all quite at a "contact Terra because we found a new asset" level.
I picked up the omnibus and I've actually been enjoying the short stories between novels as well. The first short story Regia Occulta I thought was a pretty good introduction to the character.
I love Dan abnett but the eisenhorn tribology got me into the inquisition on table top and haven't looked back then I read the ravenour books and was hooked and have re read all these 6 books 3 times and then I just discovered bequin has a book now that's my next book
You guys need to continue the inquisition series, in my opinion it picks up significantly in malleus and hereticus, also the read order is Eisenhorn 1-3, then Ravenor 1-3, then Eisenhorn 4, then Bequin 1&2
22:15 "Radical Inquisitors do sometimes work with demon hosts" Without spoiling anything, all I'll say is that I do sure hope you guys kept going with the Eisenhorn book series.
Already read the Lion book as soon as it came out, but I'd listen to it again; Urianger narrating a book about my favorite guy in the setting is A-ok by me
On the point made of stakes, and not being assured the characters will all live-- that was something I liked about this book. It's established right at the beginning that his current crew has shifted into their positions as their predecessors died.
As someone who has read all of the books as well as the Ravenor series (haven't gotten around to Bequin yet), I would say that the first book might be the best, might, but the others build off of each other in a very satisfying way that makes the first book better after having read the others.
There is an excellent inquisition book that follows the Acolytes more, called Scourge the Heretic. Can't find it on Audible but it's a fantastic book. Really funny bit where their tech priest is helping their Arbirator investigate a suspects lair, just stand bolt upright mid sentence and starts running, theyre like "what's with the priest" who shouts back to them "Timer. Counting down."
I have listened to these three books, the next set with Ravenor, and then the bequin books and a collection of short stories with Eisenhorn and man not only are all the books at least a 6.5-7 or most of the time higher, but some of the lore stuff they get into gets pretty damn wild
This maybe unpopular, but the 1st and the 4th Eisenhorn book are my favorites. Magos and all the short stories the go along with it are really good imo. Pestilence being my favorite 40k short story.
I bought the Eisenhorn trilogy (Xenos, Malleus, Hereticus and some connecting Short Stories) as an Omnibus. That is, IMO, the best way to experience them.
Hoping to see my boy Ravenor on here one day too! My partner and I have worked our way through the Eisenhorn books recently and are looking forward to watching these episodes on it
As someone who hasn’t read the rest of the books, but has played the Imperium commander deck excessively in Magic, using Daemonhosts seems to be a key component of Eisenhorn’s kit when he’s represented in games, at least…
As someone who has already read Genefather whilst waiting for you guys to do this episode all I can say is I hope you do it after Lion. That shit is a definite improvement on "The Great Work" and I swear Cawl is best dad.
These books really do get better, I'd be so keen to hear your thoughts if you continue it. Even if you dont do a full book club ep, I NEED you to get to Bequin
My take on the books: if you enjoy the departure of what modern Warhammer is and like a mystery with each book (i.e. the 8 mainline books and the omnibus), it's worth the read. Abnett's character writing is some of the best out there, and while you may disagree with the choices made by each character, there's never any conflict as to WHY they made the choices. I'd rank them 8/10 for entertainment and 9/10 for the emotional pain I have in these books.
I literally just finished the entire Gaunts series, and started the first book of Eisenhorn lol, gonna have to hold off on watching this for a while but i'm coming back
It's so fucking good. I thought it might be a bit boring or drawn out because of the length. But God, it was so good. Robert Rath really got all of the lore snippets we knew about in there, and they didn't feel forced in.
I’d say the second Eisenhorn book is definitely a good follow up book you guys should read eventually. The third one i’m a bit iffy on because it’s story is good maybe not great but it is good, however it also feels rushed especially near the end of the book.
The big thing to understand about the first Eisenhorn and Gaunt's Ghosts book is that they are essentially proto-40k. None of this stuff really existed before then, like vox, auspex, blanks, etc... For instance, did you notice the lightsaber Eisenhorn got? That's not really a thing in modern 40k, and being a Psyker that pretty much made Eisenhorn a jedi. Dan Abnet said it himself, in these early books he had no idea what he was doing, because they were in completely uncharted territory then. While I make fun at the fact that blanks are exceedingly rare and somehow every inquisitor manages to get his grubby paws on one, there wouldn't be Caiphas Cain without Eisenhorn. So yeah, still on the fence about Dan but I mostly agree with you guys' assessment of this book.
I listened to the Eisenhorn trilogy over the course of this year, between listening to Gaunt's Ghosts and other audio books. The series defiantly goes places I think the last book is my favourite and yes, he keeps on getting his ass handed to him and keeps on coming back!
I feel it's worth noting that the build up to the man with dead eyes (and Fischig) is definitely for the entire series. I'd check out the rest of the trilogy personally but I really like the inquisitor series (Ravenor is good and the Bequin one is my favourite) so I'm biased. I think it's an interesting this in this series that most of the villains and side characters tend to die which almost feels more realistic for this world. You do definitely run Eisenhorn with a daemonhost if you want him to be thematic.
“My patience isn't limitless… unlike my authority.” By Inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn.
Sigma male music.
Honestly, one of his best quotes
How i felt waiting for this episode. I finished the book months ago
Uber Aemos "most perturbatory"
@@piratekingthaszar7912 Might I suggest reading the rest of the series? This really is the tip of the iceberg for Eisenhorn I must note.
You really should give this series the night lords treatment and do the whole trilogy
And perhaps Ravenor when they finish.
And then Bequin after that
There is also the fourth book, the magos
Agreed, trying not to spoil anything for anyone, but a lot of what DK and Bricky are saying are plot points in later books lol.
Best scene was the guardsman dealing with the Saruthi better than the Deathwatch space marine. And the space marine malding about it lol
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the space marine librarian i guess was drinking a cup of tea with the finger lifted ?
I want situations like that to be literally every single time a space marine chapter gets involved with a battle. the guard troopers that have actual combat experience that is relevant to the fight at hand being able to perform better than the pumped up ego heads of the space marines
@@gabrielnasc6322I think he was drinking it with 1 finger cause the cup was too small for his hand
@warhawk9566 yeah I remembered it now so cute for an autistic biological weapon
100% Eisenhorn only gets better from here. His trilogy is just one cohesive story and a constant upping of stakes and of how bombastic it is. And as much as I love Eisenhorn, Ravenor is, to me, even better. Better written, better paced, better character moments, etc.
It goes Eisenhorn trilogy, then the Ravenor trilogy, then Magus, then the Bequin trilogy. The Bequin trilogy isn't finished, as apparently the third book is going to have some serious lore ramifications, stretching FAR beyond the Abnett-verse.
...the King in Yellow.
That's funny, I have the opposite opinion of the Ravenor books
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And tangentially connected is The Emperor’s Gift due to Hyperion
i was already considering reading ravenor and the others but this tips me over the edge for those. if those are BETTER? than the crazy awesome stuff in Eisenhorn, like, he goes everywhere from the crazy mechanicus contraption to the grungy underhives to xenos worlds, with all forms of the imperium on show, titans, space marines, void ships, skitarii, militarum... and with all this, Eisenhorn still feels like he has weaknesses, he's not invincible by any means and takes a lot of wounds...
i didn't mean to end up writing a book review lol, ill check out those books you said for sure! great comment
Honestly, the hint/reveal/twist in Bequin is WILD. No idea how, or if, they're gonna be able to pull that off but boy oh boy am I psyched for the final book.
Eisenhorn is basically 40k Breaking Bad. You're at the part where he's still a school teacher and wondering why people hype up the show. Give it a chance
while I'm sure that's the case, I don't really feel like saying a book series gets better a more than a whole book into the series is kind of an unreasonable barrier to entry.
@@burnin8able It's about the journey you go on with these characters and the destination it leaves you in by the end. If Breaking Bad was more accessible and Walt was full blown Heisenberg by the end of the first season, it wouldn't have had any chance to build up the stakes and endear you to the characters. Nobody would have cared if Hank died in the first season, you barely know him.
I'll be the first to say the first 2 Eisenhorn books are kinda mid. But it's a slow burn story and the final book has some crazy payoff for people who took the time to get invested in these characters.
I'd say many 40k books are like that as well, it's not unreasonable in this setting. The Vaults of Terra has a similar burn, it 100% is worth sitting through two mid tier books of setup to get insane payoff from the third imo.
@burnin8able personally I think the first book is still absolutely fantastic.
@@burnin8ablexenos is still a Good stand alone book. But reading the trilogy is like icing on the cake. I think the 7-7.5 score was a bad take, its an 8-8.5 book for sure.
And for a 40k book its a higher score imo. Dan Abnett did grimdark not grim stupid
@@gwfranklin1what do you think is the best introduction novel to the WH40K universe.
Finishing the Eisenhorn trilogy would be a pretty good book club. Kind of like the Night Lord trilogy they're one cohesive story.
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do the eisenhorn books get a bit more interesting as they go? because not sure why but I just wasn't super into this first book. I kinda thought it was just eh, which is a shame because I'm a big fan of the gaunt's ghosts series.
@@burnin8ableeisenhorn arguably has the best character arc of any single character. Its either him or Talos.
I think the Eisenhorn trilogy reads best when you treat Xenos as "Act 1" instead of as its complete own thing
@@calebolds9609 that does sound interesting, and I am no stranger to long form character arcs, I read the Stormlight Archives after all, so I guess I will need to give the second book a go at some point. I guess I was mainly turned off by this book because for a book named Xenos, the aliens just seemed like a plot device, while chaos was the real villain.
Definetly read the other books. The four Eisenhorn books (Xenos, Malleus, Hereticus and The Magos) are all about how inquisitors have to tow the line of knowing chaos but not falling to chaos. Eisenhorn starts out as a puritanical inquisitor but due to some extreme circumstances he slowly becomes more and more radical until he is at serious risk of crossing that line.
They are a great read
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For some reason they keep calling it a trilogy, but they always forget the fourth book which tragically completes the story.
@@davidkazarossian7654 well, probably because the fourth book is part short story collection, part epilogue to the trilogy, and part set up for the Bequin books
Gotta say the magos can be skipped, I am 100% that dk is too smooth brained for the magos and would just not get into it
@@sebastianholtsvendsen2597 i’m not so sure. It was a very good way to show the endpoint in Eisenhorns journey, to show where he ends up. I don’t think you can just skip it.
Part of what makes Eisenhorn so great is the characters. Eisenhorn himself is a fascinating individual, but characters like Aemos and Bequin really add a lot to the story and it's fun to see them all interact. I personally like Fischig, he's a no nonsense kind of guy who takes no bull. You can tell he'd never become someone's puppet.
He'd absolutely never be puppeted around, definitely...
I like Nayl personally
Uber Aemos is the GOAT of perturbatory
@@DINOROAR2912 big oof
yes. it only gets better from here.
The Eisenhorn series is very Eisenhorn focussed, similarly Bequin is but Ravenor really is about: "The Gang"
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Ravenor Returned is such a bonkers story of multiple factions sabotaging eachother and I absolutely love it.
>The Gang
"The Gang Discovers a Conspiracy to Rebuild -Enochian- Ennuncia With Warp Tainted Computers"
Me being through both the Bequine novels. "That Malus Codicium is a little secret that will come in handy for later"
As a person who read all the books your predictions were a real rollercoaster of emotions.
DK had to have read some spoilers
DK being able to shill the script off the top of his head was kind of impressive
I read/listened to the first three Eisenhorn books since you mentioned xenos as the book club. I really recommend reading them! I feel like characters grow and the story keeps you engaged. Also Uber Amos saying “most perterbatory” is my favorite thing
Do it guys, read the other books; they just get better. Remember the order though; the Eisenhorn trilogy, the the Ravenor trilogy, then Eisenhorn The Magos, then the Bequin books... Of which were still waiting for the third and final one, but now Dan has finished The End and the Death, it's now his main priority.
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@@jooseppielleese7156😭
On Tonight's episode of the Ridiculous Tour:
Bricky indulges in a 4 hour recitation of the rite of spring, played on the Eisen Horn, a wind instrument he himself invented. Reviews of his earlier performances include such phrases as "Awe full", "Soul scorching" and "Truly in a realm of his own"
DK meanwhile is knitting a nice sweater. Did you know he can knit? He's very good at it.
Shy paid me off to not write anything about her this time.
All this and more to come!
Those are some impressive puns, well done.
amazing comment
If you really like the first Eisenhorn, then you will enjoy the other ones but you will LOVE the sequel series: Ravenor. It continues the story and is even better.
Aaaaaaaaaah, so excited to hear you discuss The Lion soon. It's a space marine book with so much emotion, it's gonna be wicked to hear you discuss it
The mini of Eisenhorn is a recast of his first one from the Inquisitor spin off game. This was the first time a game made what most to know a space marine today. But back then we in the hobby knew them as "Hollywood marines"
I would really love to hear you guys go over Rynn's World and the associated short stories. The Crimson Fists are a pretty solid group of sm archetypal heroes.
You guys have to do the full trilogy! Then consider the Ravenor and Bequin series as well, as they somewhat continue the story. And man, things get intense in Hereticus and Malleus with Hereticus being my Ferdinand favorite of the three!
Yes. Personally, just as the Nightlords Trilogy, the second book in the Eisenhorn is the best.
Eisenhorn gets REALLY good in the later books. I've recommended this trilogy to a couple friends, and they've really enjoyed it. Keep going with this, seriously.
If fantasy ever ends up getting covered (assumedly by DK) A book I'd recommend for a possible book club is the WitchHunter series by C.L. Werner
Where is Huron? Is he safe? Is he all right?
7:56 god damn what a great way to show how weird the editing for the book was by editing that part like that, i appreciate these details, great job
The rest of the series is really good, so far I think Malleus is my favourite. That parade scene is just amazingly written
Toby Longworth is also the Bully Ogryn in darktide, eisenhorn protects the lil ones.
This is still the book I recommend to people if they're curious about the 40k Universe, just an incredibly fun read.
I was so hoping they would stick with the inquitor theme and announce the next book would be Inquistor Draco by Ian Watson just to see the reactions.
Genefather is also relevant for some of the upcoming lore. It was really good
reading fabius vile trilogy, is it need to understand Genefather?
@@jooseppielleese7156I would say that reading the Bile trilogy is a good understanding into Bile as a character and his circumstances before jumping into Genefather. Same with reading The Great Work which is Cawl’s.
I read Genefather before Bellisarius Cawl: Great Work, and I haven't read Bile Trilogy. I would say you don't need either to understand and enjoy, but Great Work makes some of the events in Genefather even more epic.
The eisenhorn books are solid, and I *really* like the bequin books. I bought hard cover copies or the two that are out, and I'm really excited for the third. The bequin books definitely go into the blank-ness a lot more, and some parts of the 40k story that normally only lore channels are even interested in.
Bequin books that good? seemed like meh add on
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I heard there is an Eisenhorn TV series in the works. Even before Cavill got involved. I hope so.
When I hear cavill was doing something with 40k I immediately thought Eisenhorn bc it's a great story and seems much more doable than something like the HH or cadia or something.
VERY excited for Lion: Son of the Forest
Covering another first entry in a longer WH40K book series made me think about Ciaphas Cain again. His first book does have some dry stretches and early series weirdness, but I'm wondering if I got a better first impression of the character than DK and Bricky thanks to the short story that opens the physical omnibus. It wasn't much, but it introduced me to the type of adventures Cain would have real fast.
I need to get back those omnibuses. I have three (don't know if there's been more), and I'm still early in the first. ADHD brain lost ability to read books the instant school was left.
Toby longworth may not be the best at voicing female characters but by the emperor his voice for cherubiael is straight BUTTER
This book was my first 40k audiobook and goddamnit was it amazing. Also pls do the next two books as it would explain the codicium rule. Edit: looking forward to Hereticus if you guys end up doing the rest of the trilogy.
They did not talk about Heldane being in this and Gaunt's Ghosts? Shame. He's my favourite horsefaced inquisitorial asshole
Probably one of the best reads iv done in 40k. Gotrek and felix for warhammer 😊
They're going to love the next ones, I swear every time they mentioned beind unsure about something I got excited because that exact thing would be covered later
Son of the Forest is a fantastic book! I've already listened to it myself, so I look forward to see how you guys find it.
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At this point nearly everything I listen to is going at 1.25 speed. Ad-Rick definitely one of them.
The ongoing Bequin books are actually my favorite of Dan Abnett's work. It has both a great protagonist and side characters. If the Eisenhorn books are James bond, then the Bequin books are Victorian horror.
“Who knows, Ian? Maybe this is my next movie?”
“my next movie?”
“NEEEEEEEEXT MOOOOOOOOVIE?”
Can’t wait to see you cover Lion Son Of The Forest.
Such a great story, great character development for The Lion, plus getting to meet the Risen. In fact, meeting the Risen characters will introduce some subject matter that should be discussed in a separate episode (mainly another DA episode but focusing more on 30k era details).
My most favorite are the following.
Zabriel
Lohoc
Kai
Launciel
Galad
Bevedan
The Triumph at the Spatian Gate (I think it's in the 2nd book) is probably my favourite scene in any 40k book i've ever read & i've read pretty much all of them. The Eisenhorn Trilogy was responsible for so many things we take for granted in the wider lore of the Imperium now & all 3 are required reading IMO for anyone who loves 40k.
Also I just f*cking love Cherubael
yes!!! it's about damn time! I was about to wrap up Maleus already. felt like the longest groundhog month for this one
The best intentions create the worst devils. The other two are worth the read
I read lion son of the forest. You'll love it. That final section, chef's kiss.
Listening to this helped me remember the book again. Brought back a lot of good memories
I'm about 2-3 hours out from finishing the third book in the trilogy - I think you'll absolutely love some of the parts coming up. I really enjoy the saga, how its these characters dealing not just with one issue, but many. It also feels like you get a great snapshot across so many different ideas and opinions of the inquisition.
I love the tag line on the original cover "Thought begets heresy, heresy begets retribution." So bad ass.
You are in for A RIIIDE with this series, gentlemen. Keep going it only keeps building up.
Malleus and Hereticus are wonderful dives into the madness and corruption of chaos. It is the reason he is known as the tortured servant of the throne and I would love to see you finish the trilogy!
i loved all the books about him and the other characters in these novels. I cried at the third book lmao. A great start to 40k stories, and the omnibus is great for all the short stories( which i think Bricky would love some because of the warhammer paint layer) "very epic" indeed
Not only does it get better, it goes real hard in the third book. Still have to read Magos, but at least the 3 first books are certified bangers.
my dumb ass read the WHOLE OMNIBUS thinking it was gonna be the whole series not just xenos 😭
A little over a year ago I was only vaguely aware of Warhammer 40K. Xenos was the first novel I consumed and I finished the first Inquisition trilogy in the following week. The remaining two trilogies in the trilogy of trilogies, following Ravenor and Bequin, are not just worthwhile but I would argue required reader for a Warhammer fan. I cannot wait for the last book, Pandemonium to complete the journey. Seeing all the interconnected story arcs come together with the current finishing of the siege of terra stuff ( which I've only just now started after working through Guants Ghosts, some of the Hersey stuff, and a smattering of the standalone stuff) is incredibly satisfying.
Part two and three are a good read of the Eisenhorn Trilogy, you really get into inquisitorial politics and the inner politics of the imperium as a whole (which sounds boring but is quite fun when everyone has a bolt pistol to everyone’s head)
32:53 Uh oh. Well Bricky, you'll certainly learn more about them, I can guarantee that
Best part of it is shy when bricky is talking about the editing
@15:50 Blanks are on a gradient, like Psykers: weaker Blanks just leave people a bit unsettled, while stronger ones banish most Daemons just by proximity. Of course, _any_ Blank is still a pretty serious asset given what Psykers can do, but they aren't all quite at a "contact Terra because we found a new asset" level.
I picked up the omnibus and I've actually been enjoying the short stories between novels as well. The first short story Regia Occulta I thought was a pretty good introduction to the character.
I got myself the omnibus a couple of weeks ago to re-read the first book and then the following ones. I am really looking forward to more of it.
DK pls I know you will love the 2nd book pls eventually come back to this series
I love Dan abnett but the eisenhorn tribology got me into the inquisition on table top and haven't looked back then I read the ravenour books and was hooked and have re read all these 6 books 3 times and then I just discovered bequin has a book now that's my next book
You guys need to continue the inquisition series, in my opinion it picks up significantly in malleus and hereticus, also the read order is Eisenhorn 1-3, then Ravenor 1-3, then Eisenhorn 4, then Bequin 1&2
this is great info to have
How vital are Revenor books before Magos? I just bought all 4 Eisenhorn books in a bundle.
It only gets better. It gets even better when you get through Ravenor into the Bequin series.
22:15 "Radical Inquisitors do sometimes work with demon hosts"
Without spoiling anything, all I'll say is that I do sure hope you guys kept going with the Eisenhorn book series.
Already read the Lion book as soon as it came out, but I'd listen to it again; Urianger narrating a book about my favorite guy in the setting is A-ok by me
On the point made of stakes, and not being assured the characters will all live-- that was something I liked about this book. It's established right at the beginning that his current crew has shifted into their positions as their predecessors died.
Definitely do the entire trilogy!
(And then consider the Ravenor and Bequin books as well)
Im on book 11 of Gaunts Ghosts, it's so goos. Ive been reading them just this year and can't stop.
As someone who has read all of the books as well as the Ravenor series (haven't gotten around to Bequin yet), I would say that the first book might be the best, might, but the others build off of each other in a very satisfying way that makes the first book better after having read the others.
Fischig being on the cover - "it's a suprise that we will use later."
There is an excellent inquisition book that follows the Acolytes more, called Scourge the Heretic. Can't find it on Audible but it's a fantastic book. Really funny bit where their tech priest is helping their Arbirator investigate a suspects lair, just stand bolt upright mid sentence and starts running, theyre like "what's with the priest" who shouts back to them "Timer. Counting down."
I have listened to these three books, the next set with Ravenor, and then the bequin books and a collection of short stories with Eisenhorn and man not only are all the books at least a 6.5-7 or most of the time higher, but some of the lore stuff they get into gets pretty damn wild
This maybe unpopular, but the 1st and the 4th Eisenhorn book are my favorites. Magos and all the short stories the go along with it are really good imo. Pestilence being my favorite 40k short story.
I bought the Eisenhorn trilogy (Xenos, Malleus, Hereticus and some connecting Short Stories) as an Omnibus. That is, IMO, the best way to experience them.
This is one of the best trilogies I've ever read and each book gets better than the previous. 10/10 would recommend
Hoping to see my boy Ravenor on here one day too! My partner and I have worked our way through the Eisenhorn books recently and are looking forward to watching these episodes on it
I have been watching this for so long and I finally get to come in on it. Love you guys.❤❤😂😂😅
I have never heard eisenhorn compared to 007 but you nailed it! Love eisenhorn
I have the feeling that Bricky would love Magistratum Mundanus! XD
I can't wait for the next book club in 4 months
I would say that the series will get even better in the following parts.
As someone who hasn’t read the rest of the books, but has played the Imperium commander deck excessively in Magic, using Daemonhosts seems to be a key component of Eisenhorn’s kit when he’s represented in games, at least…
The silence at 8:19 threw me off because I wasn't tabbed in.
In my personal opinion, I think if GW was going to do a TV series they should start here, mainly because if has a little bit of everything.
As someone who has already read Genefather whilst waiting for you guys to do this episode all I can say is I hope you do it after Lion. That shit is a definite improvement on "The Great Work" and I swear Cawl is best dad.
These books really do get better, I'd be so keen to hear your thoughts if you continue it. Even if you dont do a full book club ep, I NEED you to get to Bequin
My take on the books: if you enjoy the departure of what modern Warhammer is and like a mystery with each book (i.e. the 8 mainline books and the omnibus), it's worth the read. Abnett's character writing is some of the best out there, and while you may disagree with the choices made by each character, there's never any conflict as to WHY they made the choices. I'd rank them 8/10 for entertainment and 9/10 for the emotional pain I have in these books.
I literally just finished the entire Gaunts series, and started the first book of Eisenhorn lol, gonna have to hold off on watching this for a while but i'm coming back
New fall of Cadia book by Robert Rath has gotta be on the bookclub soon
It's so fucking good. I thought it might be a bit boring or drawn out because of the length. But God, it was so good. Robert Rath really got all of the lore snippets we knew about in there, and they didn't feel forced in.
I’d say the second Eisenhorn book is definitely a good follow up book you guys should read eventually. The third one i’m a bit iffy on because it’s story is good maybe not great but it is good, however it also feels rushed especially near the end of the book.
The big thing to understand about the first Eisenhorn and Gaunt's Ghosts book is that they are essentially proto-40k. None of this stuff really existed before then, like vox, auspex, blanks, etc... For instance, did you notice the lightsaber Eisenhorn got? That's not really a thing in modern 40k, and being a Psyker that pretty much made Eisenhorn a jedi. Dan Abnet said it himself, in these early books he had no idea what he was doing, because they were in completely uncharted territory then. While I make fun at the fact that blanks are exceedingly rare and somehow every inquisitor manages to get his grubby paws on one, there wouldn't be Caiphas Cain without Eisenhorn. So yeah, still on the fence about Dan but I mostly agree with you guys' assessment of this book.
It gets much better from here!
Please do the trilogy at least.
I listened to the Eisenhorn trilogy over the course of this year, between listening to Gaunt's Ghosts and other audio books. The series defiantly goes places I think the last book is my favourite and yes, he keeps on getting his ass handed to him and keeps on coming back!
favourite moment was definitly when eisenhorn mentions that there where times when he was almost to embarassed by his gun to draw it
I feel it's worth noting that the build up to the man with dead eyes (and Fischig) is definitely for the entire series. I'd check out the rest of the trilogy personally but I really like the inquisitor series (Ravenor is good and the Bequin one is my favourite) so I'm biased. I think it's an interesting this in this series that most of the villains and side characters tend to die which almost feels more realistic for this world.
You do definitely run Eisenhorn with a daemonhost if you want him to be thematic.
i read all of them up until the second bequin novel and my bros you should too !! they are so bloody good