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With only one bastion still standing on the once unconquerable fortress world of Aranua, Warboss Gazrot Goresnappa should be basking in the light of impending victory. Instead, he lies ‘proppa dead’ beneath a decapitated Gargant’s head.
The biggest and baddest bosses from each of the six (no-longer-united) clans step forward to duke it out to become the next warboss - but the ork gods have other plans. A prophecy foretells of a mysterious gate that lies beneath the human city. The one true warboss will be the first to find it, and will use it to turn the galaxy green. Da Genrul of the Blood Axes knows only he is worthy, but it seems Evil Sunz Speedboss Zagnob and Goff Big Boss Mag Dedfist didn’t get the memo. And to add insult to injury, nor did the leader of the grot uprising, the one true prophet of Gork and Mork (or so he claims), Snaggi Littletoof, who seeks to use this opportunity to turn the tide of grot oppression.
Who will the green gods deem worthy?
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Favorite part of the book: The captured human guardsman has an inner monologue about how the Orks use the Grots as cannon fodder and how pathetic the Grots are. Then without a trace of irony he beams with pride about how the Guard is used in a similar manner by the Space Marines.
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The captured guardsman was so good from start to finish
It was great when he finally get to the guard and is executed for treason by the commissar
@@gidthaillest yeah I know the boys didn’t like it much but I thought it was hilarious
@@bofurlong8944 I could see it coming from the start, but i had hoped he would get a better ending than that. Though he was a bit delusional and self-important at times, he really did have remarkable will to be able to get through all of that. Trying to compare him to Cain or Creed isn't very fair, because they set a fairly impossibly high bar.
The most frustrating part to me is that he didn't even get to report on how smart Da General is - which will no doubt lead to more humans underestimating them and more planets being lost.
My favorite part of the book was when Da General had to spend a good 5 pages explaining to the other orks under him that being promoted from a lieutenant was better simply because the other orks couldn’t grasp a word without loot in it was better
It say a lot when the best eldar content in years is in an ork book of all things
Da Big Dakka is the same way. Best Drukhari lore in years lol. As someone who plays both Eldar and Orks on the tabletop, Mike Brooks has become one of my favorite authors.
I can't wait to read that but I was scared the dark eldar wouldn't be given justice @@ace12342
@@ace12342 oh, word?! I love Deldar and we have _even less_ books than Eldar. I'll take being the antagonists of another faction's book if it also means we get a huge spotlight :D
@@Sercotani Lukas the Trickster is a dark eldar book in disguise, its pretty good
I disagree with the sentiment that Orks should (all) be depicted as excessively stupid. It’s a bit of an exaggerated meme. By all means they aren’t sophisticated and their nature and brutality overcomes the finer points of intelligence but let’s not forget… they are Brutal AND Kunning. And orks get stronger and smarter. Mek boys do some pretty smart things, and Snikrot as a Kommando is legendary.
I honestly don't even think orks are stupid, they're just so radically different from other races that they're called ignorant out of ignorance. They only lack sophistication because sophistication wouldn't help an ork to accomplish his goals in any way.
I believe Adric has been infected by the meme that Orcs are all dumb as shit. The bigger the orc, the smarter the orc. Whenever they get to talking about the War of the Beast DK's perception of Orks is going to melt.
I feel like there might be some genetic sequence in there that as the Orks grow with success, it slowly restructures their genome to bring them closer and closer to the original Krorks. Still really far away, but closer.
@@hammeroftyr I genuinely think it's just
-Every ork believes the big ork knows best
-Big orks don't usually exist without there being a Waaagh! nearby
-Big Waaagh! + common belief = the big ork starts knowing best
Bricky deserved another studd to extend his forehead for another year of Adric.
Honestly that'd be so funny, like by year 7 his forehead has doubled his height to being even with Vulcan
The avatar of khaine is the startrek security guy of 40k. He gets beat up to make others look strong.
Then he would be the Mr. Worf of 40K. The red shirts just existed to let someone die, just not someone you knew.
Worf
I have to say, reading the book in one go gave me a VERY different feeling for the plot, because it never left my mind that the whole thing was a story Snaggi was telling after the fact and kept me wondering how the plot was going to get him into that eventual situation.
Also, HUGE recommendation that 1) You read the short story "Packn' Heat" before "Da Big Daka" as it takes place between Warboss and Daka. But also 2) Keep up the Mike Brooks love and read "Renegades: Harrowmaster" after Daka. It's Indomitus era Alpha Legion, and really gives them the same kind of lore love that he gives Orks.
Harrowmaster was _such_ a good book for Alpha Legion, gave me that NL trilogy vibes just a lil' bit, and man there are so many fun (and genuinely hilarious) scenes! Didn't expect that out of an AL book, and being an AL fan I daresay we finally have "our" book for introducing people to the Legion.
Shoutouts to "Legion" (the Horus Heresy book) and Alpharius' primarch books, of course, but I wouldn't recommend them to a newcomer, or someone casually interested in learning about the Alpha Legion. Oh, and it's no surprise at all that Mike Brooks wrote both Harrowmaster and Alpharius, this dude is fast shooting onto the top of the list for my favourite BL writers of all time.
Bricky constantly bemoaning the fate of the captured captain while hoping the same thing would happen to Scraggy is funny to me
The Avatar of Khaine didn't die though? The Orks couldn't kill it and they chose to leave since it was too strong
And it kills two of the big bosses!
Its funny hearing that you where dissapointed in the conclusion to the captain's story line. Having the captain shot for heresy was one of the best payoffs of the book. From the very beginning i knew that was the fate that awaited him.
I was suprised that Warboss has plot points that is very heavily carried over to Da Big Dakka, basically making it Ufthak Blackhawk book 1.5
Favorite bits in this book:
- Aranua's finest promethium tanks on tracks going up in flames, just as the Omnissiah intended.
- "Are you a man or a woman?" "idk lol"
- Every chapter transition after 5
- The Avatar of Khaine actually pulls out a win(!)
Also, using Craftworld Lugganath as a punching bag feels like it's become a thing for some reason. Please, GW: share the love. There's plenty of punchable Eldar faces to go around.
It's funny to me when they bash the Mechanicus parts or the Brutal Kunnin, when that's the book that made me fan of Mechanicus.
Yeah I was a big fan of the mechanics in that. The skittarius and mechanicus novels are good for that type of fun too. Also think they're somewhat related to brutal kunnin because of war with the iron warriors that's the main enemy of both novels.
to be fair DK doesn't really like the more contemplative part of the lore it feels like. He likes the more action-y part of the story. I definitely would expect him to dislike any of John French's writing (I think they're interesting, but very dull prose-wise at times).
Maybe if they started the Forges of Mars omnibus, McNeill definitely nails the Mechanicus there.
I recommend helsreach for the perspective on the opposite side of a fight involving orks and just how hopeless it can be, or the devastation of baal to have the same feeling but against nids
Gotta read Dante prior to Devastation of Baal tho!!
@@willdelozier5754 Sorta kinda. I read the Omnibus and Dante IS connected and leads to The Devastation of Baal, however, It is not entirely required to understand what is happening since they briefly explain It in the start. Dante is still a phenomenal book that really shows you about, well, DANTE (shocking, I know), but also about the internal feelings of the Blood Angels. How they deal with the flaw, what It looks like to fall for the Red Thirst and the Black Rage, How is their recruitment procedures and so on. It's a fantastical book for a new reader, in my own opinion
@@ViniciusJLima I knew barely anything about the Blood Angels before I read Dante, that book made me really like them. They are now my second favorite Loyalist Chapter.
@@AAhmou That's great! They are my favorite one because of How they approach their situation. I LOVE How they know they aren't perfect, How they are all condemned in the end to fall, but that doesn't stop them from finding ways to improve and withstand in the name of both, their father's honor and theirs.
Out of curiosity, which is number 1?
I am also currently reading DA BUG DAKKA. Love it
30:04 Necromunda, you guys... You wanna Read Necromunda books.
I’m surprised they were invested in the guard captain’s story. I was so happy when he was taken out by the commissar. Bricky may not have found it satisfying, but I did immensely.
I found it immensely satisfying. His ego finally ended up being his undoing.
Who else wants to see snaggy become the 40k equivalent of skarsnik? I want him in the chest cavity of some mega armor operating it with levers and buttons to trick the orks into thinking he's a big ork warboss that never takes off the suit.
i do find it funny that for a regular human who has basically actually encountered xenos for the first time (the captain), he was safer amongst the orks than that of his own kind
I was curious if the Eldar would have spared him. He seemed to think they were Drukhari and so never even tried talk with them.
I'm going to continue my campaign to get you guys to cover Space Wolf by William King, it got an audiobook for it's 20th anniversary last year, it's one of the OG black library books that came out at around the same time that Ciaphas Cain, Gaunts Ghosts, Eisenhorn and others did that really set the bar for quality in the Black Library. Pretty much every book you guys have liked involving space marines has borrowed heavily from it in how to portray space marines, and it tells the origin story of Ragnar Blackmane how he was chosen and became a space wolf and shows a good bit about what life on Fenris is like and how it shapes the Space Wolves themselves.
Right off the bat, a fast-paced intro.
One interesting note is that this book has one of the few mentions of commissar Cain (hero of the imperium!) outside of his own books
How to explain the smart orks like an ork: dem lads must've been fightan' lots to be closer to dheir true krork form!
i think that the point where the guardsmen gets executed by the commissar is so sad and disappointing that it wraps back around to being fucking hilarious
i appreciate the channel and have been following since early year 2 but one thing ive been sick of hearing around about greenskins among the community, is that orks are just dumb and stupid, I believe they arent. they are SIMPLE creatures. Bred and born for one thing. They may not have academic smarts, but i believe their street smarts is great. As implied through characters like Ghazzghkull and The Beast, the bigger an ork gets, the bigger and better their street smarts get which effect the orks around them, raising THEIR smarts. However the average boy does fall into many of the stereotypes of the orks. mainly because they themselves are like, a week old. I believe the smarts shown in this book makes sense for the orks as all of the "big finkin" is done entirely by the bosses, weirdboyz and mekboyz (and snaggy) and its done entirely within a common sense frame of reasoning. Need a gate open? Put some wires in a cog heads brain like we do wif da deff dreads. its already got a bunch a wires in there. anyway sorry for the long winded post. i do love the channel so keep up the good work. im not sure why i made my hill to die on here so... farewell
Loved this book, it's always nice to see my green boyz kicking ass!
The fate of the guardsman was obvious from the start and kind of hilarious, like all that and that’s what he gets in the end? Peak 40K. Da general might be my new favourite ork, tied with the speed boss as he was a mood throughout the story. Also hats off to the avatar of khaine, ironic it’s best showing was in an ork book. Didn’t die and took out two named characters, boy did good for once
This Boss had alot of War (I didn't read the book yet)
And bossing
For the next book, I recommend Catachan Devil: An Astra Militarum Novel or Fifteen Hours. Both are perfect Imperial guardsmen novel.
Just finished listening to the Skittarius book and it was kinda mid. It started off fairly weak but once they got to the main planet and started fighting it got kinda good for a while. The ending was kinda disappointing since it’s just setup for the sequel book that I don’t know if I can honestly be bothered getting
*Spoilers*
The only reason I would listen to the second book is to hopefully see the admech get a win unlike this first one; and see the MC of the first one not be stuck with a fate worse then death, but I’m fairly certain that he’s not the MC in the second and have no clue if he even shows up in the second one.
I have to give it to VA I have no idea how they don't throw their voice out doing the Ork voices.
I listened to Warboss, Da Big Dakka and Brutal Kunnin. Really enjoying the Orks having a good scrap with the lads.
Some of the other Warhammer Crime books are great. "Flesh and Steel" you get see to rogue Servitors and a Servitor conversion facility. "Grim Repast" is pure Noir.
I'm glad I finished this book so I could listen to da big dakka when it came out.
DK out here being upset that the weird boy was weird. smh my head 😔
given i just went through 'The Big Dakka' last weekend, that has my vote.
How did you know about the parts you weren't there for?
~Ufthak Blackhawk to Snaggi
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Hey Bricky Congratulation for achieving 1 million subs dude
I think my favorite thing with this story was the weird boy licking the spirit stones to get info on the webway gate and how to use it.
Just imagine...Mike Brooks writes an Ork Book where they fight Space Marines. Could be his best one.
Well, Mike did write Lion Son of the Forest. He could do a crossover of Orks fighting Dark Angels where they become obsessed with the Lion the way they did with Commisar Yarrick after the Lion kicks them all to the curb.
Find yourself a significant other that loves you as much as Black Library authors hate the eldar/avatars of Khaine.
In the Jain Zar book. Avatar awakened. Big deal. Entire chapter of goodness. Fighting orks starts. Gets crushed instantly by ork titan.
Another Khaine L.
Warhammer Fantasy treats Khaine with more respect, but that's just because High Elves didn't fuck up as spectacularly as Craftworld Eldars.
I think you guys would like dead men walking, its about the death korps of krieg vs necrons
Tell DK that the Scaly-foot gastropod is an actual snail that eats metal and absorbs it into it shell.
Displate code doesn't exist guys 😢
One of the appeals of 40k is that every faction has certain hacks that allows them go up against any other faction with more or less even odds. I want to see more of that in the narratives. More power balancing in the books and less steamrolling
Loved this book favorite I’ve read in a while.
I thought it was a perfect ending for the captured captain. He was super arrogant in his imperial dogma, and than when he finally escapes it’s that same dogma that kills him. I thought it was the perfect ending.
New art let's go! Also smol Shy carrying a tea pot is really cute
Dont forget, as there are more Orks and bigger Orks they get more smart.
skaven episode when
If anyone's interested, Harry Meyers plays a few relatively unimportant characters you are unlikely to have heard of; one of which being someone by the name of Sergeant-Major Morrow from a game which I believe is called Darktide or something like that. He's also in the relatively unknown Baldur's Gate III too.
So how long till we see your poster designs on Displates?
Good timing. I finished the book like 1 hour before the video premiered.
About the smart orks.
99.99% of orks are dumb as bricks. However, that tiny percentage remaining can be quite exceptional. Leagues above an average ork. This is part of what makes orks hard to fight. They are extremely predictable, unless one of these servants rises up. That’s when Orks pull some bullshit.
And in regards to Orks steamrolling the humans. Remember, this is the last city on the planet. It was doomed before the book even started. Orks already won.
Long shot here, but what are the chances of reading Fabius Bile book for book club. Specifically Primogenitor. I think he is a pleasantly sadistic shitlord. Also Bile episode?
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Hot take: this Book is a case of "unreliable narrator".
We can't trust that what's being told is what actually happened... since the Narrator Snaggi, *_a Grot_* , has a conflict of interest with portraying the leading faction of this story, *_Greenskins_* , as anything but overpowered. So what *_actually_* happened is going to be at least a little different than what we're being told.
Any chance we could have an episode about Malcador? I would also be interested in an episode where you look at the daily lives and conditions of a common Imperium citizen in detail. Thanks for all the cool episodes! =)
The gazghkull book VA is the best ork VA gw have, and they don't use him nearly enough
I would much have more Ork books, so many authors can do SM books, this dude needs to stay on the Orks
I really want someone to hire dk to voice some ork lines for something anything.
Why did the lord governor chapters even exist
Some authors are just very prolific ^^
You cited Stephen King turning one to two books per year, a long time ago, Dumas wrote eleven books in seven years. And we're talking about huge books like the Three Musketeers that have at least a thousand pages because he was payed by the line. And some authors spend ten years on the same book XD
They are never gonna read Horus Rising...
Maybe he done the books more like how ork see them selfs
33:05 You can't just say that, DK
Great stuff!!
You guys should read Lukas the Trickster next. Funny Space Wolves shenanigans vs Drukhari.
Gonna keep recommending Fire Caste. It’s my favorite 40k book and perfect if you love the Imperial Guard. It’s a brutal grim fever dream.
I hope yall do gene father next
Considering the quality of Drukhari in Da Big Dakka
YEAH man has a Faction Midas Touch I'd say.
I think the group should look into the Vaults of Terra series, I think it's right up Bricky and DK's alley in terms of type of books.
Just read “Da Big Dakka” which continues the story of Scraggy Littletooth. Real fun peak at the dark Eldar
Prophets Of the waaagh is still the best Ork Audio book/play. But this was also good.
"You don't write multiple books in a year." Let me introduce you to Brandon Sanderson! The man writes one book when he's bored or stuck on another one.
as an Ynnari player do they even make a book that Eldari actually win in lol all i've ever heard was we get beat up so easily all the time its sad actually lol.
They won in final battle in the night lord trilogy. They also win in Valedor but very few have read that book because it never got an audiobook version which, let's face it, most people use the audiobook these days.
I was listening the the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy. What I would give to have a ork story written like the hitch hikers galaxy with some dead pan slapstic by a narrator
Literally bought this yesterday and finished it this morning. Perfection
Is this the same author that wrot the Zombie Survival guide?
No that’s Max Brooks
I will put it here after last episode of adeptus ridiculous but of you guys are looking for both space wolf hero lore and drukari lore Lucas the trickster is a good book for both
My theory is that the Primarch book was considered more important by GW, so they gave him more time to work on it.
Next book should be book one of Dark Empirium.
The squig on the front cover of brutal kunnin looks like the author lmao
Or you're Brandon Sanderson and you really love to write
Da big dakka next. the grot boss continues.
Tom of the morning with adeptos ridiculous !!!
A neat little detail: The chapter numbers are a callback to "Brutal Kunnin", where Ufthak tells us he can count to five, so every chapter after five is numbered "LOTZ".
That's just Orks in general. One of the old codexes talks about any number above 5 just being 'lotz'
Glory to Space King
Thanks, Displate.
They are never reading helsreach im quiting the book club
43:00 Oh no! Anyway
Regarding the Avatar of Khaine never getting anything done, I THINK I've once heard that an Avatar of Khaine is actually given time to properly SHINE and do something worthwhile in one of the Ciaphas Cain books. However, as I've said, I only THINK I recall hearing this second-hand. So I cannot say if this is actually true, nor can I point to which book if it is.
The title of the book is Choose Your Enemies. The Avatar in the book fights a greater demon and actually wins. Honestly I didn't think it's showing was too bad in Warboss. It kills two of the 3 warboss candidates and in the end the Orks give up trying to defeat it and pretty much run away from it for the humans to deal with.
@@ace12342 Thank you very much for pointing me to the right book.
And I agree with you on thinking the Avatar's showing wasn't TOO bad in Warboss for those same reasons.
I agree. Snaggy really drags the book down
Another snub.
Read Deathwatch by Steve Parker
Simultaneously, Eldar are still OP in the tabletop...but have mostly crap books, while having an interesting dynamic, concept, and possibilities of execution...that are thrown away to make the most boring version. Yet, they are one of the factions (including the 'Nids and Necrons) that are fundamentally changing the setting...but cool ideas are going to take like, 10 more years to come through.
Also...I hate that I agree with the aussie fuck on this, but Majorkill is right that the book for the Last Crone Sword needs to be a Heist story, and its a good chance to do more exploration of the Chaos Realm of Slaanesh, and how the Eldar view the Warp itself...plus how they could potentially resist it. But, nope, drop it and the entire Eldar story, only SHPACE MAERINES MATTER, MOORE PRYMARCHY STORIES O DERE REDURN!!!
Yeah, I don;t even like the Eldar, and I want to see what they could do to turn that into the eldar factions into a new apocolypse faction...would be interesting.
Read it. Pretty mid book but good over all. The comedy was great but felt as if it dragged its feet at some points.
This kind of lost It's appeal since you guys don't even like playing 40k anymore and quit dice check
Bricky still plays, just not on dice check. He was at the California Team Champs tournament last weekend.
Somehow WarBoss felt wayyy weaker than Brutal Kunnin, like a side story with Da Big Dakka picking the real story back up again.
what im getting is we need a mike brooks book where orks fight space marines ? which i want