Garmin Tread Overland Edition vs Garmin Overlander - Head to Head! What's The Difference? PART 2

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
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  • @jezbon
    @jezbon 2 года назад +3

    Awesome videos on this comparision! I have the Overlander plus GPSMAP 66I (wanted Explorer+ but Garmin has discontinued it quietly ~ not been on sale for MONTHS now in australia ~ in order to make Tread Overland make sense) is what I have. $1,500 combined instead of $2,200 like this Tread Overland.
    Backup camera is important if you tow a caravan, off road trailer or touring trailer, find it hugely useful.
    Also a seperate (and backup) map device in the GPSMAP 66i means worst case takes place (Overland breaks somehow) while I'm in the dessert I can still navigate.
    Also ANYTIME I leave the car the GPSMAP 66i is with me so I always have inReach instead of the possibility of dying in the dessert.
    I think a video chatting about if it's actually sane or silly for Garmin to more than double the price, remove some features (voice and Rear view ~ big deals) but add other features (tread standard group radio chat... which does that matter when most 4WD guys have CBs and need them?)... a total "Is this thing worth it 'really'?" video.
    I'll be honest that the Tread Overland makes NO sense to me. In every way bar some software tweaks, a wider screen and an insane price.... it's a downgrade in overall features, backup~ability (devices break), flexibility (walk away from car and still have SOS and SMS) than an Overland and GPSMAP 66i.
    Also what cheek to update the software for the Tread Overland and not release a proper (meaningful) update for the Overlander. These are all Android apps running on an android tablet. Garmin... don't start making your customers hate you, don't be evil.

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +4

      Hi Jerome many thanks for watching and subscribing! Appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment.
      Backup camera is now supported since a recent update, but yes I have to agree Garmin should have incorporated this into firmware pre-release of the tread and (per a comment I left on an earlier video where someone asked me about reverse cam) I had looked over the specs and capabilities and saw zero reason why the Tread could not support reverse cameras. What DID happen was the support was support was added only after the release of the BC50 camera (make of that what you will.
      Also per your asking about backup, you can have all your maps in the app and device at the same time (the subject of an upcoming video).
      Agree on the removal of voice TOTALLY, terrible thing to loose, really. it's a dealbreaker for me personally.... but, not every device is for every person.
      Thanks for the idea on the price justification video, I'll think on it. I have covered a lot of the points at various stages though in saying this device may not be for everyone, it is a little bit niche, but that is the great thing about what Garmin are doing with the range now and that is adding a host of devices for different crowds into the mix which is great!

    • @recreationalplutonium
      @recreationalplutonium 2 года назад +3

      >Also what cheek to update the software for the Tread Overland and not release a proper (meaningful) update for the Overlander.
      THIS. I spent 700 Euros on the Overlander and they didn't add one new feature since. It's like they given up on that thing. The Explore web service still looks like a proof of concept beta version. The device had so much potential but they just let it die. Also why the F isn't it compatible with their newer wireless cameras? I can add an older backwards cam but the newer license plate holder cam that works completely wireless (and on batteries) can't be added. But their newer Garmin Camper has support for both cameras. Never going to spend any money on Garmin ever again. I'd rather use som sh-tty iPad app instead.

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      @@recreationalplutonium to play devils advocate here (by the way I do agree with a lot of what you are saying) I think what they are trying to do is provide a lot more diversity in terms of devices and services to the marketplace (which is always a good thing) and give different people different devices which could suit them in their activities. It seems (from the contact I do have with them) that they are always playing catch up in all areas, seems to be a bit of a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation with them at the moment. People want different devices but that leads to more work keeping each device up to date and keeping people happy. I do agree on your thoughts for sure on the explore, it's a fantastic unit and it seems they have just given up on it. .. but feedback does reach them, so I guess we shall see

    • @recreationalplutonium
      @recreationalplutonium 2 года назад +2

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad Yeah, I get it. But their premium devices are just Android tablets. So why does one WiFi cam work with the Camper while it won't work with the Overlander. And vice versa ... a cam works only with Overlander but won't work with Camper. If it had some new special radio hardware built in - yeah, sure. I'd understand it. But it's just a software update. Feels like they want me to throw away the Overlander and buy a new device.
      I like the idea of the Overlander. TBH I'd buy an Overlander 2 right now if they would guarantee meaningful software updates for 3 years or so. The platform they built is fantastic. Sadly they didn't use it for anything great. It still feels like a tech demo.
      But I guess it's a chicken-egg problem. Not many people will shell out 700 Euros/Dollars for an Overlander running what looks like stone age software and thus there's not much incentive for Garmin to throw developer time at an "unpopular" device. Maybe they could add some subscription service to make it worthwhile for them?

    • @1Coolbanana
      @1Coolbanana 2 года назад +3

      @@recreationalplutonium Use basecamp with the Overland, it works great, Explore is a mess and doesnt work the way it should.

  • @Lordoftheflatbush
    @Lordoftheflatbush Год назад +2

    Thanks for the video! One question: is possible to lock the device with a code so when it is stolen it cannot be used?

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  Год назад +1

      Unfortunately not, that would be a great addition, I will pass the information on to the product team at Garmin, I never thought of that!

  • @SonosAzai
    @SonosAzai 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the videos, man. Seems like the tread is the better way to go but i may just get the base tread as i dont see the reason to take the $1k jump for the overland edition that doesnt do much more

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 месяца назад +1

      @@SonosAzai thanks mate. Yeah it's definitely a choice on what you need them for and what you can afford hey. There is a big argument that the value really isn't there for what you get though

  • @1Coolbanana
    @1Coolbanana 2 года назад +3

    Would love to see some in depth navigation on the Overlander working with explore, uploading gpx's from Basecamp etc, making tracks visible and hiding them, navigating from "where to" using gpx tracks etc. 👍
    Also, when you record a track, there is no way to export it out, it says "this feature is not yet supported" that sucks 😞 Wonder if there is a workaround???

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +3

      Hi there, thanks for watching, I will try to get onto creating a video on that when I can, thanks for the idea! You can export with a memory card.
      Exporting GPX Files with a Memory Card
      You can export data, such as waypoints, routes, and tracks to a compatible microSD® card.
      Insert a compatible microSD card into the memory card slot on your device (Installing a Memory Card for Maps and Data).
      On your Overlander™ device, select Explore > Library > Export from Explore > Memory Card.
      Select one or more waypoints, routes, or tracks.
      Select EXPORT.

    • @1Coolbanana
      @1Coolbanana 2 года назад +1

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad Awesome, thanks. I thought I tried this but Ill give it another crack and let you know. Thanks

    • @1Coolbanana
      @1Coolbanana 2 года назад +1

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad Doesnt work, just had another go. Just doesnt do anything 😞

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      @@1Coolbanana bugger, there may be specific compatible cards, I’ll take a look in the coming week or so, a bit swamped at present

  • @surfvid
    @surfvid 2 года назад +1

    Nice vid mate, just wondering how you get to your explore library on the tread?

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      hi there, thanks for watching, this should cover it.
      For deleting data via the Explore website, see Deleting Data and Messages from the Garmin Explore Website
      To delete Explore data in the Tread App:
      Open the Tread App
      Touch the menu icon (3 bars) in the top left
      Touch Explore Library
      Select an item to delete
      Touch Delete
      Touch Continue
      To delete Explore data on the Tread device:
      Touch Apps
      Touch Adventure
      Touch Explore
      Select a category
      Touch the Wrench icon
      Touch Delete
      Select items to delete
      Touch Delete
      Touch Yes

  • @aaroncarlton2619
    @aaroncarlton2619 2 года назад +1

    thanks for the vid
    i have been thinking of getting the tread, we hunt a lot and need to add waypoints quick and easily name them and nav back to them from an open paddock (no roads/tracks) - will it do "as the crow flies" or try and nav to a road ??
    we have only ever used marine garmin gpsmap units as they do this task very well.
    they should make it with out inreach as im not going to carry it in my back pocket..

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +2

      Gidday Aaron, thanks for watching mate! you can choose as the crow flies or snap to roads, yeah it is not really that handy to carry in the pocket but this range was made more for s*s and in vehicles with an option to carry it around for navigation. the emphasis with these is to use the Inreach for remote travel I reckon. but the great thing with this range that Garmin are actually doing is providing a lot more options for the entire range which is great!. thanks again for watching and if you can throw some thumbs up's and comments on some other videos and share the channel around if you can! youtube.com/@4WheelsOnTheRoad

  • @brandagency760
    @brandagency760 2 года назад +1

    I am due to do a Rallye in Marokko in the dunes. So no signals and different kinds of maps needed. They Rallye is based on GPX locations you get at the start and have to make a route from it and navigate to these waypoint. The one who does this the fastest / smartest is the winner. What in your opinion is the best system to work for works this?

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      Have heard various reports on gpx importing being a bit funky on the tread vi memory card but have not tested as yet, that is a difficult one and a very specific scenario, possibly phone apps would be best served for this kind of job

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 Год назад +1

      Magellan TRX7 Pro does that.

    • @derebellenclub7435
      @derebellenclub7435 Год назад

      @@briangc1972 thanks

  • @HLsab
    @HLsab Год назад +2

    I’m yet to see a digital map that I would consider worth the dollars , $700 is a lot of money for a fancy look at me item that doesn’t do what you want and more often than not incorrect mapping in remote areas . Thanks for posting these vids as your pros and cons are most useful , I’ll be sticking to paper maps til these digital units lift their game . 👍

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  Год назад +2

      Hi mate thanks for watching, yes I will agree that these devices are not for everyone, price can be an issue at times but as I have mentioned the great thing about the way Garmin is doing business now is by creating new devices for different people and for different uses which is great! For that reason alone, you have to love the way they are going about it, nobody else is doing the same in the marketplace

    • @HLsab
      @HLsab Год назад +3

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad yeah I agree , Garmin seem to be the benchmark. A mate has the Hema unit and it’s next to useless in the Vic High Country.

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  Год назад +3

      @@HLsab I bought a Hema to start with, bloody rubbish

    • @HLsab
      @HLsab Год назад +2

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad For where I travel I still haven’t seen anything better than rooftop maps .

    • @treeboyz5183
      @treeboyz5183 Год назад

      ​@Lukedemp yep we had same issue with hema in high country Vic just asked locals for directions at dargo lol

  • @honusail
    @honusail 2 года назад +1

    Some in depth navigation differences would be great!

  • @Corey-pd3mi
    @Corey-pd3mi 2 года назад +1

    Garmin taking the piss with the Tread price at nearly $2k. So they’ve included the inReach which was always a complaint by users needing the seperate device but then removed other features. InReach mini 2 is less than $500 retail and that’s in a standalone package, integrating the tech would be a minor cost to production

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      Hi Corey, thanks for watching, I am curious what are you talking about when you mention 'removing features'?

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад

      since I shot this video, reverse camera compatability has now been added (only a few weeks back though)

    • @Corey-pd3mi
      @Corey-pd3mi 2 года назад +1

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad well the two you mentioned, reverse camera and voice activation. The software is essentially the same, they’ve added inreach and larger screen, and the ability to track your mates, provided they have the same system. Personally having a separate emergency device is not a bad thing from a safety perspective anyway. I’d be really surprised if they sell many in Australia tbh

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      @@Corey-pd3mi all good mate, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss any!

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      @@Corey-pd3mi yeah reverse cam has now sort of been fixed (only with the new bc50) which as I mentioned in this thread is a bit to get sales at the same time I would imagine. It is a very specific unit I guess but diversity in units is always a good thing. Better than just 1 model like the Hema!

  • @recreationalplutonium
    @recreationalplutonium 2 года назад +3

    Got the overlander. The software is just horrible. The build quality is nice. But the Explore web service is like something from 20 years ago. Never going to give garmin another Euro.

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      yes the interface is a little antiquated I will admit, but they are updating a lot and as I am affiliated with Garmin I do pass on all of this feedback (and they also read comments and posts on here) so rest assured feedback is reaching them

    • @recreationalplutonium
      @recreationalplutonium 2 года назад +1

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad Don't know which product they update a lot but my Overlander's Explore software has had the same stone age UI for the ~2 years I've been owning one. When I bought it I thought "well, the UI sucks but they surely will update it to something useable ... I mean it's a premium 700 Euro NAV device" ... coincidentally my Overlander has been refusing to sync with the Explore cloud for the last 2 weeks. A problem that happens every few months and I have to reset it to factory settings to start syncing again. Suck because I have a recorded track on the device I'd like to save :|

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      @@recreationalplutonium there is at least 1 way around that I know of, www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/overlander/EN-US/GUID-666F57C6-2A99-4116-AEAE-7A76C21934CD.html . i'll take a look at the other and update you

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      ​@@recreationalplutonium have you tried sync via wifi in case there is a usb issue?

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      @@recreationalplutonium also, you should be able to goto the folder in dvice when connected to pc (wifi or usb connection) and go to Internal Storage, Garmiini, GPX and direct copy from there

  • @vh1ghland3rv28
    @vh1ghland3rv28 2 года назад +2

    I just bought the overlander and I'm totally disappointed. The off-road maps are terrible half the tracks are missing or totally wrong. And the tracks that are there don't have names on them or a named incorrectly. The graphics look like they were done on a computer 30 years ago. Google Maps is 1000 times better than this and the mounting crap. So disappointed waste of money

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  2 года назад +1

      have you updated it as yet? there are also other options for maps that can be installed in settings

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 Год назад +2

      @@4WheelsOnTheRoad For the price that Garmin charges for these units, the consumer should not be forced to hunt for maps that work. The mount should be as solid as the door to a vault. The graphics should be from the 21st century and the UI should be intuitive; especially after 30+ years of trying to get it right. No excuses. Garmin has been hearing these same complaints for 30+ years has has done NOTHING to address them. Base Camp is another total failure as well.

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  Год назад +1

      @@briangc1972 they have upgraded the computer program and now base camp is no longer in use. As I mentioned there are other maps you can choose to have installed in setting up the unit, not sure where you live as well there may be different maps if you are not in Australia?

  • @briangc1972
    @briangc1972 Год назад +1

    The title is "What's the Difference?" The video is 3/4 of what is similar. Worthless video for those of us want to decide which will fit our needs.
    2 thumbs down!!

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  Год назад

      in order to compare difference one must first compare what is similar
      Thanks for watching champ

    • @4WheelsOnTheRoad
      @4WheelsOnTheRoad  Год назад

      It's actually a hard gig making videos that I don't get paid for champ, you have to try to include information to explain the unit for those who have never seen it before and those who are quite familiar with GPS units, so maybe try to take that into consideration before getting on your high horse. You as a human.. 2 thumbs down

    • @mateopantoja4436
      @mateopantoja4436 7 месяцев назад

      A lil butt hurt?

    • @kenroscoe8121
      @kenroscoe8121 12 дней назад

      Your a muppet mate making comments like this, the video is informative from the start for people who have to start at the start that may have no idea much like you

  • @sageralkuwari
    @sageralkuwari 11 месяцев назад +1

    cut ur nails mate