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I'm watching Full Metal Jacket for the first time ever!
I can't wait to experience this iconic film for the first time!
Full Metal Jacket is such a beloved film by so many people and I can't wait to for you all to watch along with me
During the Vietnam War, under the ruthless command of Hartman, a few recruits face mental breakdowns. After a bizarre event, the soldiers are left to deal with the war's hellish mayhem.
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Release date: 15 October 1987 (Australia)
Director: Stanley Kubrick
Music by: Abigail Mead
Distributed by: Warner Bros., Columbia Pictures, Warner Bros. Pictures, The Cannon Group, Inc.
Adapted from: The Short-Timers
Budget: $16.5-30 million
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Dang. It kind of hurt when you started feeling sympathy for Pvt Lawrence because I knew what was going to happen. You started feeling an attachment of sorts to several characters, only to have them ripped away in the most brutal manner. But that's what war is like, unfortunately.
14:10 - This was a depiction of the notorious Tet Offensive on 30 January, 1968. The North Vietnamese and Viet Cong had been staging materiel for weeks in preparation for a massive coordinated assault against South Vietnamese and American assets all over South Vietnam. The attack was launched during the celebration of the Vietnamese lunar new year celebrations. The NVA and VC eventually lost the battles, but caused numerous casualties and damage, as well as creating even more anti-war sentiment here in the US. There are numerous videos and reference sites on this phase of the war.
15:20 - This was a depiction of the atrocities carried out by both sides in the war. The most infamous incident occurred in the village of My Lai (pronounced Mee Lie) in March, 1968 when American soldiers massacred between about 350 to 500 unarmed civilians. When this came to light, it further stiffened anti-war sentiment in the US as well. Many people turned against the military in general, treating personnel with condescension and sometimes violence.
16:10 - The rest of the film mostly takes place during the Battle of Huế City (through which flows a river called the Perfume River). This was one of the most brutal battles at the end of the Tet Offensive (and the entire war) with NVA and VC forces barricaded in the ancient Citadel within the old imperial capital. The South Vietnamese and American forces finally managed to rout the enemy, but only after two months of heavy casualties.
Note the emphasis in the film on "body counts". As the Vietnam War was not an "official" war in the classic sense, with organized armies facing each other, it was euphemistically referred to as the Vietnam Conflict at times. There were no victories of one army over another, or territories gained. As this was mostly a guerilla war, everything trickled down to body counts.
Also, regarding Pvt Lawrence's apparent mental slowness, look up the absolutely horrible recruitment policy instituted during the war, and credited to the Secretary of Defense at the time, Robert McNamara. Look up the subject "McNamara's Morons" to see just how low we sank.
I like the grey it brings out your hair
MovieJoob… avoid Northern Territory in the dry season. Plenty of us U.S. Marines roaming the streets of Darwin. 😂
Great background change, neutral grey is perfect, thank you for actually reading the feedback 👍
Watch "U-571" great movie
The guy who played sgt. Hartman was once a real marine d.i. He came up with many of his own lines. This portrayal is as realistic as it gets.
i deployed to iraq with R.Lee Ermeys niece back in 2005, she was a cook
This was exactly what my boot camp experience was like in 1973 with the exception that none of us shot our Drill Instructor on the eve of graduation.
There's a subtle distinction that often gets missed, in that R. Lee Ermey was a good and effective drill instructor, but here he's portraying a bad one - according to an article written by a former DI at least. The big thing is that he's too sadistic and aggressive, to the point where it does the trainee no good - he also doesn't know when he should de-escalate, and that's ultimately what gets him killed.
I believe R Lee Ermey actually ad libbed the entire opening speech.
If Armey portrayed a "bad DI" then all four of my DI's were bad, because they were just like his character.@@joehoy9242
I love how people presume that the movie is about Lenord/Pyle just because he's around often, when in reality, its Joker the whole time and narrating from the start. People miss that practically every time Hartman yells at Pyle, Joker's quite literally in camera shot--mainly because its HIS story.
The last line " ... and I am not afraid." gives me chills. To me it suggests that a cool guy like Joker too is getting insensitive to the horrors of the war. He too has crossed the line which pyle crossed on the last night at boot camp. I may be wrong but it does give me chills every time none the less. Regards from India.
I completely understand what you mean and I felt that too! Love to India!!
No, Pyle snapped. Joker has a unique perspective as a combat correspondent and while he may have seen some action, he has never been that close to being killed himself, or had to kill another human being. He has accepted the fact he may be killed, and he isn't afraid of dying, unlike he was during the attack on the base earlier.
Yes he killed the sniper remember?
Yes. some of us wore glasses. We were issued them, they were called BCGs. Birth Control Glasses.
Vietnam was probably one of the hardest wars for Veterans to deal with in post-war life for multiple reasons. Those guys have nothing but my utmost respect as a Veteran myself.
Absolutely, the treatment they received when they got home utterly breaks my heart!
@MovieJoob That is one of the main reasons for sure and I just can't imagine that experience compared to the almost universal praise (and rightfully so) and gratitude we as veterans receive now. Just tears me apart. I always tell Veterans in this generation you do t need to necessarily save the world, but just go to a local VFW and talk to one of these guys and make them feel like they are appreciated and still part of something that mattered.
Should have left them to determine if they wanted to be communist or not. Especially under the backdrop of their country constantly being invaded the French prior to the Americans for example
@@DW-op7ly lol, it had nothing to do with communism. It was the U.S. that funded the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. Communism was great for business, especially the arms business.
Primarily the way training and rotations were done. There is a book, I believe the name is "On Killing", that explains the nuts and bolts of it.
Anyone who is not a sociopath or partisan, which is most people, would have a tough time in that situation.
"Are you allowed to go to war with glasses?"
This was a good question. The answer is, yes. But, they have thick, black frames.
Another award-winning film, from 1984, to consider that is centered around the Vietnam and Cambodian conflicts is called "The Killing Fields."
It is the true to life story of Dith Pran and New York Times reporter Sidney Schanberg. Pran is left behind as U.S. forces flee the area at the end of the war. Schanberg tries to desperately locate his friend as Pran has to survive the brutal Cambodian forces under the regime of the dictator Pol Pot that are slaughtering thousands of civilians in what would be known as the killing fields.
It is a tremendously powerful film. Haing S. Ngor won an Academy Award for his amazing performance as Dith Pran.
Kubrick's films are always thought-provoking. It's really what makes his films art and not just mindless entertainment. I highly suggest Kubrick's bookend to this film, "Paths of Glory." It's in black-and-white but it is a brilliant film.
Fantastic film. Had a massive impact on me. 10/10
My favourite anti-war film to this day. Absolute masterpiece.
This is in my opinion what I believe to be a realistic depiction of the men who fought in this war unlike many other depictions that show every character is a unique dramatic story who is mature before war.
First scene none of the actors knew their heads would be shaved those are true reactions they are showing
Another thoughtful and excellent reaction Jade. Fun fact: it was all shot in England - every scene of it, because Stanley Krubrick had set up home in Britain and he hated flying.
A brilliant film! Absolute classic. The late R. Lee Ermey, who played Hartman, was an actual Marine Drill instructor, and, had served in Vietnam before retiring and, going into films. About 95% of his dialogue was improvised. Stanley Kubrick was the greatest film maker who ever was.
... and, yes, you can go to war with glasses. I did. There are just certain jobs you can't do. Like, you can't be a pilot without natural 20/20 vision.
He wasn't an actor at the time. He was originally just hired as a technical advisor to coach a real actor who was cast to play the drill instructor. But Ermey was so much better than the actor, Kubrick fired the actor and cast Ermey in his place.
That is wild I had no idea he was an instructor once!! So cool!!
Actually none of the dialogue was improvised. He came up with a bunch (maybe most) of his lines during rehearsals and Kubrick wrote them into the script.
@@benjauron5873he actually had acted before this movie..full metal was his fourth film
Fun Facts about the filming of Full Metal Jacket.
Kubrick filmed Full Metal Jacket in England in 1985 and 1986. Scenes were filmed in Cambridgeshire, the Norfolk Broads, in eastern London at Millennium Mills and Beckton Gas Works in Newham, and in the Isle of Dogs. Bassingbourn Barracks, a former Royal Air Force station and then British Army base, was used as the Parris Island Marine boot camp. A British Army rifle range near Barton, Cambridge, was used for the scene in which Hartman congratulates Private Pyle for his shooting skills. Kubrick worked from still photographs of Huế taken in 1968; he found an area owned by British Gas that closely resembled it and was scheduled to be demolished. The disused Beckton Gas Works, a few miles from central London, was filmed to depict Huế after attacks. Kubrick had buildings blown up, and the film's art director used a wrecking ball to knock specific holes in some buildings for two months. Kubrick had a plastic replica jungle flown in from California but once he saw it dismissed the idea, saying; "I don't like it. Get rid of it." The open country scenes were filmed at marshland in Cliffe-at-Hoo and along the River Thames; locations were supplemented with 200 imported Spanish palm trees and 100,000 plastic tropical plants from Hong Kong.
Kubrick acquired four M41 tanks from a Belgian army colonel who was an admirer. Westland Wessex helicopters, which have a much longer and less-rounded nose than that of the Vietnam era H-34, were painted Marine green to represent Marine Corps Sikorsky H-34 Choctaw helicopters. Kubrick obtained a selection of rifles, M79 grenade launchers, and M60 machine guns from a licensed weapons dealer.
Modine described the filming as difficult; Beckton Gas Works was a toxic environment for the film crew, being contaminated with asbestos and hundreds of other chemicals. During the boot camp sequence of the film, Modine and the other recruits underwent Marine Corps training, during which Ermey yelled at them for 10 hours a day while filming the Parris Island scenes. To ensure the actors' reactions to Ermey's lines were as authentic and fresh as possible, Ermey and the recruits did not rehearse together. For film continuity, each recruit had his head shaved once a week.
Ermy also has a minor role in Apocalypse Now as a helicopter pilot.
It’s also worth reading up on the Mai Lai Massacre; one of the most horrific incidents to take place during the Vietnam War.
Super refreshing reaction to this movie. You picked up on a lot of stuff in your first watch. AND you get bonus points for not thinking the second half is "boring", which is a criticism I never understand.
Recommendation if you want a thought provoking movie: No Country For Old Men. One of the greatest films ever made.
This is another Kubrick masterpiece. Personally, I find the first half at bootcamp the best part of the film.
R. Lee Ermey played the monstrously out of control drill sargent with masterful precision because he WAS a military drill instructor before becoming an actor, and knew that character inside and out.
Oh wow I had no idea he actually was an instructor once!!!
@@MovieJoob Ermey added the physical abuse (choking, punching, slapping, allowed hazing of the cadets, etc.) to his character because it showed this drill sargent was going far beyond the military code of conduct. U.S. military personnel may not strike a subordinate or potentially face a court martial.
GSgt Hartman was not out of control. He was a slightly exaggerated version of a real DI. R.Lee. Ermy later remarked that if he were in the movie "for real", he'd have toned down the latrine scene. But otherwise, Hartman was just doing what was necessary to make Marines in 8 weeks.
@@wirebrushproductions1001 He was out of control because he was portrayed as doing even worse things than General Patton during WWII, and Patton was almost stripped of everything for simply slapping a subordinate and calling him a coward. You do not touch a subordinate.
@@dan_hitchman007 Patton was in the Army. The Marines did things a little differently. Marine DIs at that time (1967) had to pay lip service to the idea of not hitting recruits, but they did so fairly often. And the recruits would not report it.
This entire movie was shot in the UK. In, and, around London. The Hue City scenes were shot in a condemned gasworks that was set to be demolished. All the palm trees were trucked in.
I normally don't watch any reactions under 35 mins, but I do love your reactions. Thank you for reacting to this movie, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Can't wait for your next one!
Lee Ermy was originally, a technical advisor of this movie, and because he had actually done the job as a D I, was made the main character for the first half of the movie. He was a very personable man in person, and I enjoyed many conversations with him.
Up front, your compasion for Pvt. Pyle is very endearing. Kubrick's style of filmmaking is particularly severe, but the results clearly speak for themselves. There are a million aspects to compare between the two very different parts of the film, but what stands out to me is 'purpose'.
In training the purpose is clear. Two recruits, Joker and Pyle, do not really fit that purpose. In the first half of the film we have Pyle choosing not to be a part of it.
The second part is totally devoid of purpose. They don't want to be there, and the Vietnamese didn't want them there. In the end, Joker runs into someone who has a different kind of purpose, and for her he ends up committing not an act of brutality or war, but one of mercy.
"Are you allowed to go to war with glasses?" made me cry laugh!
As a combat disabled Marine I can say there was a lot of realism to this movie. It was a strange war. The Bootcamp scenes were well done. R. Lee Ermey was a former DI. He had been hired as a consultant, but Kubrick recognized immediately that no actor could give such a realistic performance, so he replaced the actor with GYSgt Ermey. It is impossible to pretend to be a DI, you have had to live it.
Regarding private Pile not being cut out to be a marine. He was one of 'McNamara's Morons' men of low intelligence sent into the army to learn skills that would help them out in later life. A lot of them got killed because they simply weren't smart enough to stay alive.
It was officially called Project 100,000.
They were damn near as dangerous to American forces as the Vietnamese were. I remember reading one story of a group them got bored one day and started to throw around a grenade as if it were just a baseball. The pin got pulled and ended up blowing up their Lt that was teting to get them to stop.
I remember when I was in the Marine Corps about 20 years ago we could always tell the who were the guys that were the "ASVAB waivers" meaning that they technically failed the ASVAB test but the military needed the bodies so they excused the few points they needed to get in. The guys were nice enough and probably would have just been good hard working guys anywhere else but the really couldn't handle taks above certainly complexities. They usually got put in jobs like cooks but even those jobs have been phased out to private contractors that use prison work release labor.
@jessecortez9449 they are still in the Marines...we call them "knuckleheads " or "Rocks"
"There's your ID on the deck" point to a rock....
Great classic, Sgt Hartman is a legendary character 😁, and the actor was a real drill instructor. He was initially on the set as a technical advisor but when Kubrick saw him working he decided to give him the role.
I suppose the initial speech required A LOT of editing ah ? 😂
There are some "artful turns of phrase" by Drill Instructors that civilian ears aren't designed to handle.
To be honest he lobbied for the acting job and kind of screwed the intended actor out of the Hartman role.
The original actor ended up being the door gunner who has the “You don’t lead them as much” line
The actor playing the helicopter gunner, Tim Colceri, who was shooting at civilians was originally cast as GSgt Hartmann until he was replaced by Ermey.
@@willmartin7293 😂
That is so awesome that Kubrick sought advice from him due to his experience! I like that so much!!
What a crazy career Stanley Kubrick had. Every film was wildly different, yet the stylistic and tonal consistencies throughout are undeniable.
Since you asked for suggestions I feel I have to suggest my favorite movie from 1957, "12 Angry Men". It has a cast of some of the greatest actors of the day and is an amazing movie about 12 men on a murder trial Jury. Almost the entire movie takes place in one room which can sound boring at first but it's absolutely riveting.
A classic and an excellent choice.
Loving your reactions.Always well thought out,balanced and emotionally intelligent
Thank you so much :)
I really appreciate the kind comment a lot
Contrary to what Hollywood wants you to believe about the Vietnam War, American personnel did not "harass" the civilian population. Actually the Marines in particular had a special program to aid them by bringing food and medical supplies. The scenes in recruit training were pretty tame compared to what really took place on Parris Island in the mid-1960's. Verbal abuse was designed to get the recruits to react instinctively and shut out any emotional responses. The physical abuse was meant to get the recruits to work together. It wasn't meant for them to hate their instructors. I remember after my graduation i went over to my SDI and the other DI's and thanked them. Recruit training today is far different: no more physical abuse or verbal abuse (still lots of yelling and mind games though).
I went through US Air Force basic training in 1973. The opening scene when they're getting military haircuts was to the tee. We were the "rainbow flight" over the weekend, meaning we were wearing civilian clothes for those couple of days. We took a lot of razing those days, so for my part, I was extremely happy to get the haircut and uniform so we could merge into the ocean of trainees. 🤣
I went through AF boot camp in 2000. We were so psyched when we got our uniforms so we could 'blend in and nobody would know we were noobs.' A few weeks later we all felt silly for thinking that. We could spot a rookie flight from a mile away, with or without BDUs 😂.
Remember it well lol..from rainbows to pickles lol
Remember the feet painted on sidewalk at San Antonio airport?
@alanholck7995 no, but they had yellow feet painted in the breezeway of the dorm when we got off bus.
That is such an interesting perspective!! thank you for sharing this!
A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. If one soldier is weak then he can get others killed. That's why they go after the weakest to either harden them or make them quit.
Great review, this film was actually shot in England and Kubrick did a wonderful job. I graduated Parris Island in August of 1986, War is definitely hell and maintaining a sense of humor is one of the things that helps you keep your humanity and cope.
The Vietnam battle scenes were actually filmed in old disused gas works in London Docklands before it was redeveloped
Graduation day was one of the proudest days of my life, I had a drill instructor that rode my backside just like R. Lee Ermey. When he pinned my castle on me, it was one of the proudest moments of my life. He even shook my hand and gave me a little wink, then he said good job Soldier. Huuah, Essayons! US Army Combat Engineer veteran!
The reason the man got hit behind the tank was very simple, it is called The Bouncing Betty. It is a mine that's attached to a tripwire, and when the tripwire is activated, the mine shoots up about chest/waist height and then goes boom! I can lead to something called the sucking chest wound which is something you never forget, trust me I only wish I wasn't recounting from personal experience, enough said.
My dad was in the Marine corps who was the rifle coach at camp Matthews and he said this is the most accurate thing he's ever seen
Most of this movie was filmed in England. The movie is based on the novel "The Short-Timers" by Gustav Hasford. Hasford was a combat correspondent during Vietnam. Stanley Kubrick was a genius, so was Gustav Hasford. It's an amazing movie and book.
So many war movies! My grandpa would absolutely love this channel :)
14:53 Oh that's great you noticed the peace sign. :)
The Vietnam war had started, my uncle and his classmates had just graduated high school. In the parking Lot they had taken off the caps and gowns and taking pictures etc. The buses were there waiting to take them to boot camp. When this movie came out we went to see it. He couldn't even sit through 10 minutes of it. It just brought back such horrible memories for him
16:32 "The dead know only one thing. It is better to be alive."
My mom’s brother was stationed in San Diego, California during the Vietnam war and was never the same according to my mom
Their father, my grandfather cried the day he enlisted according to my mom who was 16 years younger than my uncle.
He became anti semitic (I’m sorry to say) after, according to him, a Jewish M&P talked down to him and that along with many other things he saw “hardened” him!
My uncle was more like a grandfather figure to me and my brother always taking us fishing 🎣.
He spent more time with us, his nephews, than his own grandchildren, who’s mother didn’t want them to see what he was like. As I’ve heard he was never the same, he never drank cause his dad, my grandfather, like me, were and are alcoholics, but he, my grandfather and I all were/ are smokers. My grandfather and uncle are gone now but sadly I’ve gained some bad habits (drinking heavily and smoking) that I believe can be hereditary. I was convinced by my uncle about anti Semitism for a long time until I changed my thoughts and ways, now I’m a ally for the Jewish people and renounce my former ways against other races my uncle hated and tried to convince me of. My mom sometimes says she wishes we knew him like he was before war, a teenage kid from Iowa who didn’t know hatred and wasn’t changed by the war before hand.
Rest In Peace, uncle Wes, May God have mercy on you for the true suffering you went through like so many other Vietnam veterans did in a lose/lose situation!
I am sorry for what he went through. Not only was the "war" just a mass murder campaign against vietnamese independence, the monsters who conducted this crime against humanity used and abused the bodies and minds of young american men to achieve their goal of smashing southeast asia. the piece of sh-t corporate politicians never go kill the peasants themselves, they send their neighbors kid to do it, and he comes back a shell of himself.
Have really enjoyed your reactions. As an American I have always tried to see Australian war movies (Gallipoli, Attack Force Z, Breaker Morant, Danger Close) so its nice to see it reciprocated. You have tackled a good number of films but 3 that I would recommend are (1989) Glory, (1977) A Bridge Too Far, (1998) The Thin Red Line.
13:09 Leonard "Gomer Pyle" survived and later he became the alien Bug in the movie Men in Black..
The helicopter scene: When Joker asks him "How can you shoot women and children?"
The door gunner responds "You just don't lead them so much" . What he means by that, is that the distance you aim in front of a running target is less for children and women because they do not run as fast a grown man.
That was messed up a lot of folks.
They actually had a lot of people in the military with glasses, even during Vietnam.
My dad was in the Navy during that time, and he's always worn glasses........ Infact he even underwent seal training, which back then it was very spartan, and he passed every test but one with flying colors..... Unassisted eye exams, meaning no glasses or scopes or other corrective devices.
And let me just say this, my dad was one of those guys who could say "i can circumcision a gnat at 900meters" and legitimately deliver, but without his glasses he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Your’s is the most thoughtful and understanding review of this movie and of the moral and practical “no win” situations that warriors have to face in war and then live with and deal with for the rest of their lives. Bravo young lady. Bravo.
This was based on the novel "The Short-timers" by Gustav Hasford, who was a Marine, and Correspondant in Vietnam, like Pat. Joker, published in 1979.
The book is divided into three sections, the first at Parris Island, Marine training station. The second is the Vietnam in 1968, during the Ten Offensive, at Hue. The third section is on in the jungle, and similar to a section of "Platoon" which had already been released in 1986, when FMJ arrived in cinemas in 1987, so keeping the first two sections of the book, with changes, was wise of Kubrick in the adapt, to make this film unique in perspective to others.
As Peaches said in The Pacific.
"There are many terrors in the jungle, the greatest of which are men. I have seen and done many terrible things. It is one thing to Square it with God. It's not her to square it with yourself."
As a Vet, from a family of vets, thank you for delving a little bit into our world. Your dedication is amazing, and I look forward to seeing more reactions.
Danger close is a true story of Australian soldiers in Vietnam. Great movie
Gunnery Sargeant Hartman was supposed to be played by the guy who ultimately is the door gunner in the chopper shooting at unarmed civilians. R. Lee Ermey was only supposed to be a consultant but he pushed for the role and got it.
the scene where he had him lean forward and choke himself.. They aren't allowed to choke you, so they make you do it.
The boot camp half of the movie is accurate. The D.I.s aren’t there to be your friend. They aren’t there to be your coffee buddy. They’re there to give cadets the training and discipline needed to survive war and the proficiency to be able to do so regardless of MOS. As hard as they are though and as mean as they seem most of the time to civilians a DI or drill sergeant will be there for you in a heartbeat if you have a serious issue. Truth be told DIs are some of the nicest people you will ever meet when off duty.
As a Marine fyi USMC boot camp is really cool. You learn a lot of things. Survival, land navigation, challenges your fears. Vietnam was a difficult war. This movie and Platoon are my favorite about this war. Although some difficult scenes. Love your reactions. 😊👏🥰
This one is gonna stick with you.
Great stuff young lady.
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It absolutely will!! Thank you so much 😊
Bhagavad Gita: “Now I become death, the destroyer of worlds.” Oppenheimer was quoting The Gita.
With my dad who is in the Marine Corps and Vietnam found out, I join the Marine Corps right out of high school and enlisted in the infantry. He went out and rented full metal jacket and made me watch it. Thanking that would discourage me and after I watched it, I called the recruiter And up my ship out date by one week lol so It kind of had an adverse effect
Stanley Kubrick said of R. Lee Ermey’s performance as Drill Sergeant Hartman. I just put him on the set and turned him loose, that was all him. You don’t think that I could have wrote dialogue like that do you?
Yes, you go to war w/ glasses even today. I was a proud recipient of Army quality glasses that's practically hard to break. Nowadays they give you a frame from a selection for everyday wear, and the military basic issue.
On yhe first day at basic training we were all standing at attention by our new bunks and were told to lock our things in our locker. One guy couldn't find his lock so the drill instructor screamed for us all to get in the front lean and rest position until he found it, which just made him panic more and was begging the drill instructor to not make us be in the pushup position, or plank. Scared to death lol. Brings back memories. Great reaction!!
Nobody kills the Drill Instructor, We feared and respected them. We wanted to be like them!
Back in the barracks in my U.S. Army boot camp at Fort Jackson South Carolina, my 4 drill sergeants has a picture of the Marine drill sergeant from this movie in their office. And under the picture, you see the word "GOD" under it as a joke to symbolize that he is the legend that every drill sergeant should aspire to. lol
And, throughout my 8 weeks of training, I swear... the number of times my drill sergeants quoted him jokingly every time one of us screwed up in some way... lol
He’s trying to make sure that private Pyle can’t defend himself when he gets to Vietnam, where he’ll have nobody to watch over him, except for the men in his platoon
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LOL no, he's trying to weed out any recruit who's not mentally and physically tough enough from completing boot camp.
"are you allowed to wear glasses in war?"
yes, they're issued to you with extra thick frames for durability, i wore one myself during basic training. drill sergeants use to call us "4 eyed nutless wonder of the world"
Two of my best friend's (brothers) dad was a Marine Drill Instructor during the Vietnam War years. They really did talk like that.
Vietnam was the first war that reporters were embedded in combat units. It was a double edged sword in many ways. It gave the world a glimpse into how war was and what these people experienced on both sides. It also fueled anti war protests as the government could no longer hide the truth and atrocities of war. I served over 20 years in the military and was part of the initial invasion of Iraq and several deployments to the Middle East, the dark humor you see portrayed in this film is very realistic, it’s how you deal with the situation. At the end you have a very good insight of what combat veterans go through when coming home. Most go through what is seemingly normal lives, but are fighting demons everyday. One of the honest statements I’ve heard about returning veterans is, not every wound is visible. There is a really good movie that depicts this issue, Born on the 4th of July, with Tom Cruise and the Deer Hunter. May be a couple of films to check out.
When I was in Air Force basic training we'd randomly yell "A JELLY DONUT?!?" and laugh.
Probably because you were all eating jelly donuts.
I have enjoyed quite a few of your reactions. Your senitivity and empathy reminds me of how wonderful humanity can be when we listen to our better Angels. Also it's nice to see a fellow Aussie contributing such a possitive influence in this growing "Reactor space". Thankyou. I have a war movie recomendation I think you will enjoy "HELL IN THE PACIFIC" from Wikipedia -"Hell in the Pacific is a 1968 World War II film directed by John Boorman and starring Lee Marvin and Toshirō Mifune, the only two actors in the film. It is based on the importance of human contact and the bond that can form between enemies if lacking other contact."
The reason the fighting seemed real is because it was a real battle. It was: 1968; Tet offensive; fought in Hue City; fought mostly by the 5th Marines; house-to-house fighting. I know because I was there and in the same battalion - Fox Co., 2nd battalion, 5th Marine Regiment. The1968 Tet offensive was a dismal military loss for the Vietnamese Communists. However, it was a propaganda victory for them - all thanks to their mouthpiece Walter Cronkite.
Regarding what Joker went through to be a reporter, ALL Marines must be rifle qualified regardless of their specialty: cooks, clerks, etc.
Pyle was drafted. He couldn't quit. When you're drafted, you either serve in the military, or you went to jail.
I read some of the comments about Pyle not quiting. I just want to clarify you that by that time, conscription was mandatory. If you wanted to skip military service, you would have to flee the country. which was a federal crime. Many went to Canada and never got back.
I believe that Gerald Ford pardoned them all.
But by that time a lot had established lives in Canada and didn’t come back.
Truth be told more Canadians volunteered for US service during nam than Americans headed north to avoid the draft
At the time this movie opens (before the Tet Offensive), the Marine Corps had not yet taken any conscripts so these men were volunteers.
This was beautifully well done. Vincent D'onofrio, who portrayed Pyle, had to gain a bit of weight to fill the role plus R. Lee ermey who portrayed Hartman was actually in the marines and was an instructor for many years plus got to ad lib most of his dialog, ermey wound up passing away back in February 2018 which happened to be during my senior year of high school since my high school p.e. teacher mentioned it to me. I was actually introduced to the film during my sophomore year in high school since in my strength and conditioning class during warm ups we had to learn North from South before two of our exercises and eventually I rose to second in charge after having to help with some who couldn't get North from South. I actually know of someone who I went to high school with whom had an uncle and cousin who served in the marines for a period of time
I’d never thought of your idea that people with glasses might be exempted from serving in war because I’ve known so many servicemen with glasses. I believe (and someone correct me if I’m wrong) that as long as your vision can be corrected to 20/20 with glasses you’re eligible to serve.
I watched this movie right before I went to Marine boot camp. I joked that every boot camp platoon has a Pvt Pyle. I had no idea that was gonna be me lol
I graduated high school in 1975-- Saigon fell a month before --I missed all this crap (didn't miss it much). My family have an honorable history of military service. My dad volunteered a year and a half before Pearl Harbor, served for 8 years (WWII and Korea). His father was a volunteer in the US Army in WWI and was severely injured fighting in France. Every generation from 1570 to now. When it came to Viet Nam, my dad said "no, not gonna see my son die in a bad war" He was ready to send me up to Quebec if needs be. I knew VVAW (Viet Nam Veterans Against the War) who had seen some really horrible stuff, came home and chose to be activists against the War. I honor their memory and all the others who got sucked into that insane, pointless slaughter house.
the primary goal of basic training for over 2,500 years now is to break down your individuality so that you become a member of a team - Hartman has one objective - the troops will learn to follow orders without question - or pay the consequences.
It's good to see you follow up Platoon with this film. These two films, as well as a few others, are as you replied to my Platoon comment with "important and valuable". These aren't easy films to experience but many kudos for doing so when you could've easily not. Especially for someone not American reacting to very American films. Thank you and sorry.
Absolutely!! They're so necessary to experience and I'm glad I get to!
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Gomer Pyle was played by Vincent D'Onofrio. Being a method actor, he gained over 70 pounds for the role- the most weight gained for a movie role. Also, in the scene where Hartman slaps Pyle for placing his gun on his wrong shoulder, D'Onofrio told R. Lee Ermey to slap him for real to make the scene more realistic. He was unaware of Stanley Kubrick's habit of taking multiple takes of the same scene.
I can only verify post-Vietnam US Navy POV
1. There are always more than one CC in boot camp (at least in the Navy) where partially recruits can't be abused. Verbal abuse is one thing but physical was a NO GO.
2. Vincent D'Onofrio played the Bug in MIB and had to put on 50lbs for this role
3. Hardman was out of control. Others outside his recruits would have noticed and he would have been held accountable.
4. "I don't know, but I've been told. Eskimo pussy is mighty cold." was used in my Navy recruit company in 1981.
5. In the US Navy real live ammo was always accounted for, and Pyle wouldn't have had it on his person in the head.
6. The lights in the head are always lit. (lighting I suspect).
7. "Blanket parties" were a real deal. We didn't have one because we didn't have a Gomer Pyle.
8. The hooker in Saigon is just distracting them so the motorcycle guys can steal the camera. I saw that happen in the Philippines.
9. "I wouldn't shit you, you're my favorite turd" I've used that. 🤣
10. Even by Hollywood standards, Kubrick went overboard with excessive bloodletting.
funniest thing about this is film is how kubrick could be bothered travelling so all the sets had to be 40 minute drive from his house.
TY from an old soldier for the compassion showed. God Bless.
Awww, the LEAST I can do as someone who has never had to face such hardships!
Many of the marines in Viet Nam were drafted, they didn't have the option to quit, when he said "if you survive recruit training..." it was not a euphemism, some recruits died during training and it was just the cost of doing business.
It's very touching how you feel compassion for Private Paula. 💕
You have a wonderful heart my dear. Too tender for this brutal world. I hope you do not change. There is an old saying and it fits this movie.... "War is helll!" We should always do everything we can to not go to war. But if we do go, win fast. God bless!
Aww thank you so very much!! ❤️
Your reaction to the blanket party was priceless.
It's not so much that he wants the recruits to hate him, but it's more that he wants to break them down and reform them into a Marine. The harsher he is, the more they will pay attention to the minute details of what they are supposed to learn. If a mistake is severely punished, then they will try their best to avoid repeating it. It is drilled in them until a new habit is formed and they are doing things correctly as instructed. The byproduct of this is that the group hates their instructor/leader; but the benefit is that they are so trained and disciplined they don't die from stupid mistakes. The guys from Easy company hated Sobel, but they didn't die from stupid mistakes or errors.
Example: they hated Sobel for doing the night marches without drinking water, but it trained them to preserve their water in dire conditions (like the Battle of the Bulge where they were cut off from supplies). Hartman calling people out for small things like toe jam will focus the Marines in taking care of their hygine and health, so they can avoid being combat ineffective because of minor things accumulating. If you're unable to move without discomfort because of you not taking care of yourself, then you become a liability to yourself and the rest of the people in your group. The recruits will hate Hartman for punishing them over this minor thing, but in the long run it might have resulted in him saving their lives later on in combat years later.
Gomer Pyle wasn't allowed to quit, once you were in, you were in.
Director Stanley Kubrick told R. Lee Ermey (RIP Gunny) who played Sgt. Hartman to treat the actors playing recruits as if they were real recruits. Everything you watch in this scene and the Parris Island scenes is all real. Not scripted.
The grey background looks fantastic!
I wasn't in the military but most war movies don't bother me but this one was a tough watch when I first watched it. One point, they can't just quit. Great reaction as always.
FMJ is a classic and given that R Lee Ermy was a real drill instructor it has one of the most realistic boot camp segments ever made however one of the most historically accurate vietnam war movies ever made was We Were Soldiers
Howdy again from Texas. Congrats. You made it through another Nam movie. You spoke of how this one approached the war from a different perspective. How true!! For another viewpoint, you must see Apocalypse Now. For such a Godawful war, it produced some magnificent cinema. Casualties Of War is another one. Even Forrest Gump. As always, I love your honest reactions.
I was in the Army in the early '90s and I was given Army-issued glasses. They were not very handsome glasses. The guys around me called them birth-control glasses and I do recall a girl taking my glasses off and telling me I looked better without the glasses.
Also, you would need glasses to be able to shoot at the enemy. I know one time I forgot my glasses for target range and all the targets were pretty blurry, but I was shooting the Squad Automatic Weapon, SAW, and I could lead my shots into the target with small bursts.
Great reaction. Love the Grey background against your hair color. ❤
The Thin Red Line is one of my favorite war movies a very introspective look at war.
Great movie
I remeber everybody telling me to see this before I went to bootcamp.....but i saw it after, and not knowing what it was, I SWORE someone went to Parris Island and filmed real bootcamp! THEY NAILED IT ON REALISM! 💯
boot camp is tough...harder as a Marine, but it is to weed out the weaker folks...(endured it in USN 1977)...it has to be done but, i imagine, not so raw now-a-days. Also, in WW2, you knew who the enemy were...in "Nam...?!?!? (an enemy who was both everywhere and nowhere)
Fun fact: during Cowboy’s death, the tall burning building you see behind Joker is the Monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey.
My friend told me a story his grandfather told him about how He was a POW for 12 minutes because 2 VC were transporting 15 marines through the jungle and they didn’t take their knives so my friends grandfather stabbed the VC in the back then they got free and killed the other one and eventually got back to the base
It is a fact that during the Vietnam war Robert McNamara, secretary of defense, let men into the military who were not intelligent enough to perform successfully in their jobs. Collectively, these men were called McNamara's Morons by some. Pyle may have been one of these unfortunate ones.
RIP to R Lee Ermy! A real DI, he was also in Seven, Sommersby, a bit part in Apacalypse Now and a excellent part in a Vietnam movie, The Boys in Company C. Originally the helicopter door gunner was supposed to have the role. But he gave Stanley Kubrick so many video clips of how a DI should be played, he got the part! Most of his lines and insults were all add-libbed! He at one time gave the screenwriter, 20 pages, typed, front and back, of all his pure insults!😮😮😮😮 The writer said, he couldn't believe what he was reading! And that the insults on camera, seemed to endlessly flow out of his mouth!