There was a huge shift in the rules about that kind of stuff...physical abuse and excessive verbal abuse and hazing...after the US Military stopped using the draft, and became an all volunteer force. You cannot get away with that stuff if you are dependant on attracting recruits, instead of conscripting them. 🖖💯✌
Hitting was always against their policy my grandpa said but they still would hit u anyway just like they’re not rlly supposed to curse but they still curse all the time just not when ppl are filming it and posting it on youtube
haha! Many a recruit has been physically educated...ridiculous how that rule changed because that was nerve wracking part of it "if I fuck up, I am going to pay the man"
As a former Marine myself, you're very wrong when you say "This will never happen" (on multiple occasions). I know things have changed a lot over the years, but recruits and in some cases DI's commit suicide, or harm each other and that should not be ignored. The pressure is immense. I won't go into detail (out of respect) for the cases that I'm familiar with, but it DOES happen. DI's are also not SUPPOSED to hit a recruit, but human error and emotion DOES come into play, and it happens (even today). Good luck with the channel Devil Dog.
I was at PI in 1997 and the DI's knocked us around all the time. I have seen recruits get punched in the stomach or kicked in the shins. Hazing? We got hazed all god damn day.
@ Tell The Great, The Vietnam Era, is before your time dude. They did things somewhat different from your time 40 50 years later. These Marine Corp Drill Instructors now are mentally deranged yelling Damm Fools. In My day, the Drill Instructors, and Drill Sergeants of the Marine Corp and U.S Army could put a Foot up your Azzzzz. They did Yell. But were more articulate with their words. Just like Drill Instructor Hartman in Full Metal Jacket. Now days these Marine Drill Instructors just Gabbbbbbbbbbb over and over again, like a broken record at the top of there lungs.
My uncle told me about how he saw a drill instructor put a recruit in the meat wagon because he tried to sleep in and skip the morning run lol honestly sounds like the ideal environment to get you ready for the stress of battle to me but everybody has their britches in a twist about everything now.
You forget this movie takes place in the Vietnam War most of them were never volunteered they were drafted so that be a possibility. They didn't have no standards back then because your number came up in draft
I went through Parris Island as a Marine recruit in 1968. .. from what I understand R. Lee Ermey was a drill instructor during the same time I was at Parris Island. And Within our platoon of roughly 60 to 70 recruits were ONLY about three or four draftees. We did not think much of them. However, the Army did have draftees, a lot of them. But, the commenter above who says that most were draftees is grossly misinformed and wrong. He is talking about the Army only. We Marines were enlistees and proud of it. Semper Fi -USMC
The recruits/Marines in the sixties got smacked around often. The problem was that a number of recruits died because of extreme training (drownings and other things). Instructors can't get away with that anymore, but they Corps finds ways to make Boot Camp/OCS just as stressful and brutal. It's just different.
Getting smacked around wasn't the reason recruits died back then, it was because they were desperately recruiting ppl that were below military mental or medical standards. Private Pyle is a perfect example of this. Look up "Project 100,000"
Hate to burst your bubble but I and manny of my compadres received this this treatment in the Vietnam era boot camp was reduced from 12 weeks to 8 weeks and Ermey his self said they were giving out “ love taps “ to to impress and save lives, and we gave a Marine in our Cap squad a Wisk scrub down because he wasn’t showering enough ! , it made him a good Marine, and yes you could have gotten ammo back from the range, but nobody wanted to, just remember times and the Marine Corps were a lot different from your sheltered existence, something you probably thought was made up was the Singing of the Micky Mouse Club song happened in ITR or Rifleman school at night just like the movie ( not Vietnam though) , when I saw the movie I thought that was awesome, everything about the movie was super accurate,especially Vietnam ! , it took me a while to get up out of my seat while old memories flooded my brain, regrets and pride both competed in fact, I believed that I did my duty but always wondered what happened after I left. ! , Semper Fi and God Bless the United States Marine Corps, formerCorporal infantry
@@TrelltheGreat There was a huge shift in the rules in the 1970s and 1980s about that kind of stuff...physical abuse and excessive verbal abuse and hazing...after the US Military stopped using the draft, and became an all volunteer force. You cannot get away with that stuff if you are dependant on attracting recruits, instead of conscripting them. 🖖💯✌
@@iKvetch558 yep one of my high school teachers served in th 50's and said they could kick your dick in back then. That 's what he said, "they'd hit you and kick your nuts in the ground."
@@TrelltheGreat No Trell, you don't. Believe me, you really don't. One thing you have to know was that some marines in that era were drafted. I heard of one draftee that farted in a doctor's face while being checked for piles. The doctor made sure he was assigned to the Marine Corps instead of the Army or Navy.
Ehh, when I was in boot camp 2002, I laughed my ass off the entire 13-14 weeks. I definitely paid for it in PT but it's impossible to not laugh. I also picked up a meritorious promotion during boot camp because I impressed the DI's so they definitely let me get away with it more than the one's that couldn't cut it.
My uncle enlisted in 1970. He told me they really FUCKED you up back then haha and still he’s the proudest mf marine I ever met. Can’t wait to be apart of the Corps later this year! Thanks for the great content! 🇺🇸
Well, the "blanket party" scene maybe something you feel is fake from your time in, but in '84 this was certainly going to happen to one of the guys in my class. It was planned to the hour it was going to happen, but one of the Drills got wind of it and made sure the guy was protected from harm.
Ermey had said it did happen 100% in those days , that is why he did those scenes . The director wanted it to be as real .. as possible for that era during Vietnam .
I heard that the actor who played him wasn't even an actor at all --- literally was a drill instructor who was supposed to 'advise' the actor, but ended up taking his place, and being the actor, himself, anyway
@@Sammm107 Yes i believe Ermey was the advisor also for the movie An Officer and a Gentleman . Where he advised Lou G. Jr in his drill instructor role .
Okay so boot camp: insanely easy even if you’re in no kind of shape going in. Now what you need to worry about is when you hit the fleet and or ITB. If you’re a f*ck up you will pay. Not necessarily with a sock party, but if your peers are worth a damn, they will peer correct you. Whatever way that takes form is up to them. Take it as you will
Are you kidding me? This movie is the reason I Joined the Marine Corps in the first place!! They by far lived up to and exceeded any and all expectations I could of had of them! Your hair cut....don't like it....that facial stub....don't like it..... your mustache exceeds the corners of your mouth? And your tattoos were a NO GO! In my time! Anyway I'm OLD SCHOOL and I hope to God they are still! They were my favorite teachers In life! If you don't have or are lacking in life, its because you lacked initiative to get up and get it Yourself!
Air Force basic training made me a man, I went in because my Dad was a retired Air Force Master Sergeant. Too bad he never saw me going in, he died 5 years prior right after he retired. I met my goal of promoting to Staff Sergeant E-5, in part because my Dad was a Staff Sergeant when I was born. Proud to have put up with basic and serve my 6 year enlistment. They made man out of me with a few smacks upside the head!!!!
I went through Navy boot camp in 2013 and our instructors slapped us around lol, so they'll still do it sometimes because they'll get away with it but they'll never choke you or anything like that
Seeing a recruiter for the first time tomorrow, I'm excited and nervous as hell at the same time, I hope it goes well... but from what I've been told it's more so to get "my name on the books" than anything
I’m talking to a Marine Recruiter on Friday , I used to talk to one in HS , he’s going to be nice for the most part to try to win you over, Just ask a lot of questions bro it’ll go well don’t stress it
@@dylanwestbrooks4014 thanks for the advice, I met him today and tommorow at 1pm we are doing an in depth interview --the kind of interview I need to bring paper work and what not, matter in factly (and this is going to sound sad), but today is the first time I've ever went to a bmv and got my driver tempts *and* filled out a bunch of paper work (which I have never done by my self). It was a hell of an experience man... now I know what adulting feels like and it sucks lol but it's good to take the right steps toward something rather than just sit oh my ass.
Connor Stinnett don’t sign an open contract buddy, if you know an mos that you want.. go for that one, don’t settle cuz they can put you anywhere the corps needs you with an open contract. I’m currently waiting to be shipped in October
The one thing I always thought was crazy about this film is that it’s almost has a feel like it’s 2 different but related movies in one. The part you reviewed in boot camp then the second part after Joker gets to Vietnam. Good movie of course but very dark, but that war was super dark.
During the 1950's when my dad was being trained for Korea he took part in a "Blanket party"guy's hold the blanket tight on the side with you under it so you get no leverage and the guy they clobbered had his face covered tight so he couldn't see to fight back or who took part.
It could be numerous things. It not only happens in the Marine Corps but also the other branches. •toxic leadership •ppl who do not work and still get paid for it •ppl who got promotions when he/she nevere earned it in the first place while others worked their butts off and never got recognized for it. I do not think he wants to mention it because he is still under contract. He might explain it when he gets out.
You are wrong about another thing back then men were drafted and as long as they cleared a bill of health from their doctor didn't matter if you could do so many pull ups pushups or sit ups the drafties got into boot camp under special circumstances cause they where drafted it was a war going on and uncle Sam was taking anyone if you had a heartbeat you where in
Liked it, but,(always a but) then vrs now, if you haven't been to both, how to judge? Not trying to be awkward, but just curious about the difference between peace time, and high attrition slot filling. Not in anyway denigrating the soldiers, but the politicians who kept feeding the beast.
It may not seem real today, but back in the Vietnam era of this film, boot camp was far worse than this movie. Yeah, they hit you and more. The irony of this is Vietnam veteran Marines will watch this movie and laugh their asses off, because we know how real it really is....
During Vietnam boot camp was reduced to 8 weeks. With a war going on. Many were drafted too. They could hit you back then. Some of it needed to be done to shock you into the reality of the situation. A lot of commenters miss this part and compare their boot camp experience to the 60s. They were a bit different…. Your feelings were not a consideration bank then
They were hitting in 1966 and then when I came in, in the early 1980's we had Vietnam era Sgt's training us, so they still hit, even though it was frowned upon. No one told. I would assume after all these years it's not done anymore.
Vietnam Era Vietnam Marines will tell you this more accurate than anyone post 1980 military will ever understand. We threw a "blanket party" for a "bully" in my platoon in the Army back in 1987 at Ft Jackson SC.
The movie was a step in back in time. For my dad. And he cried when some of the guys died. Because he helped out the Marines. Because he was a med-vac for the Air Force. During 1968 and 1969. And they helped out everyone. And he saw the blunt end of war. And my brother and I planned to with him. In 1997 to go to Vietnam to heal. And visit Cambodia and Thailand. To Hellfire Pass to pay tribute to the guys in WW2. Then we go Belgium and Normandy too. To Flanders Field and to Omaha Beach. But sadly he passed away.
You are in a Marine Corps that didn't exist even as far back as 1990. During Vietnam they definately hit recruits. This Modern day Marine Corps is like summer camp.
“Get in shape beforehand.” “They won’t let you in if you can’t do one pull-up.” This movie is set during the Vietnam War. The last time the US had a draft. Private Lawrence (Pyle) was just a regular guy that got drafted in. He was not there by choice.
"This Movie is Unrealistic ... the Drill Instructor's Portrayed is of a Very SICK Man ! (Even, by 60's Era, on) .... There's 3 Sergeants, Anyway ... But, he would be Deemed Unfit as an Instructor and ... Relieved of his Training Position !"
I went through Navy boot camp in 1976. After I got out, I met a guy who went through Marine boot camp in ‘73. He said the DI’s buttstroked more than once
@ Trell The Great, You keep saying this would never happen. No now days this is not suppose to happen. But the wrapping of soap bars in bath towels to punish slackers in the Platoon Army Basic Combat Training BCT, and Marine Corp recruit training, this did used to happen in the 60" s and all the way up to the mid 1970's. And the Marine Corp Drill Instructors could knock your Azzzzz on the floor. In 1979, the year I joined the U.S. Army, a new policy, Department of Defense regulations which was passed through Congress, drill instructors and drill sergeants in the United States Armed forces could no longer, commit any type of physical assaults in the military on recruits. if this regulation policy was violated, Your Chain of Command could Charge you with assault and battery under uniform code of military Justice. UCMJ. Facts. The Korean War and the Vietnam War Era was a different animal. Recruits in Army and Marine Corps was getting Their Azz whipped. You are in this Millennial Marine Corps.
Thanks for the feedback on this as it was good to hear first hand what goes on in boot camp. If you ever get time, pickup a book by R Lee Ermey called Gunny’s Rules. It is a great read and gives you some history on the movie and his life in the military!
1969 MCRD San Diego. The Di did punch you and slap you. I don’t think that they go to that extreme these days. They did have Blanket Parties for motivation but they were uncommon. In 1969 private Pyle would have been dropped and held back in a motivation or physical training platoon. He would have stayed in these platoon until he was in shape then reassigned to another advancing platoon. If he couldn’t hack that he would have been discharged.
0:56 Actually, I'm calling bullshit on this one. Not every recruit in the Marines is Einstein, especially back in the day before the internet. ;) There is a reason why 'most' Marine recruits "of today" wouldn't ever act out. It's because Marine recruits in Vietnam DID act out, and they got really punished for it. ;) Hell, I was hearing about them acting out in the 1980s and getting destroyed afterward. I'm guessing that the word eventually got out that this ain't no game. They acted out in the past so that most of you would learn and so that you guys wouldn't suffer today. :)
They’ll never hit you? Lol. Maybe not in 2021 but they did in 1987 Third Battalion I Co 3074. My dad went through Paris Island in 66 ( the time frame this was supposed to of taken place) and went straight to Nam. We watched this together and when I said they didn’t hit you that much in boot he said the Corps has gotten soft. I’ll watch your video with him and let you know what he thinks of your commentary. They were getting you ready to go to war and mothers of America didn’t have any pull back then. “They wouldn’t let you join if you couldn’t do one pull up” yeah now but you got to remember this was during Nam and the draft. People would fake not being able to not do a push-up if that was the case then. OMG where did you go to boot? We did a blanket party for Recruit Salters before he got recycled. I heard that the DI getting killed during Nam happened. Not positive but... wait bringing back live rounds would never happen we had guys that brought back live rounds and one guy brought back a practice grenade it was found in his footlocker just before graduation. One of our DIs threw a a full canteen at our house mouse and hit him in the head. It knocked him out and he was between racks and hit his head three more times before he bounced his head off the deck. He was out cold and the DI ran over and was saying you’re ok while slapping his face saying wake up wake up. The kid did but he had knots all over his head. I believe they said he slipped in the shower. What year did you graduate boot?
I tried to find a real Viet Nam vet reacting to this movie but they sent me this instead eh well it's still a good reaction but one thing you got wrong they did hit the recruits back then that's why I'd rather watch this from a Marine of that era
We had a bed wetter who was trying to get out of the USMC. He came to our platoon after 6 weeks and he kept pissing in his rack ( bed ) they would let him stand there while we got thrashed. So our DI's told us it was up to us to square him away. So after 3 morning of them thrashing us we had a blanket party that night. And he never pissed his rack again and he graduated with us. Thrashing is 30 minutes of excessive physical training they give you 5 minutes to recover and then they start in again. It can change you and force you to do things you never thought possible.
He smuggled a donut. Why couldn't he smuggle some ammo? As for getting hit, the drill instructor jammed the butt of a rifle into my buddy's face. It may not happen now, but it happened back then.
So you honestly think NO new recruit has ever spoken out of turn on the first day of boot? Really?!? Keep in mind that this movie was set in 1967-1968 at the height of the Vietnam War. There was an active draft, not just volunteers and although the movie says 8 weeks Marine boot camp got cut down to as little as 6 weeks at one point during the war. R L Ermy himself has admitted they physically roughed up recruits back then because they weren't given the time they needed to train them and they weren't getting the quality of recruits they needed. They had to cut corners, and they had to make a big impression in a hurry on this kids. They knew most of them were going to Nam and they knew that the majority that went weren't coming back. They had to do what they could to get these kids ready and give them the best chance they could at coming home. Again even as late as the 80s blanket parties were still happening to fuck ups in basic training. I knew a guy who went into the army back then who had a fuck up in his basic platoon that got the blanket party treatment. There was another incident he told me about with the same recruit where the drill sgt. threw a coffee cup at his feet and it shattered and cut his foot. This dickhole started screaming about reporting her for physical assault and how he had all these witnesses and literally EVERY SINGLE other soldier in the barracks did an about face to make the point that not one of them was going to back him up or say they had seen anything happen to him. Apparently they really couldn't stand this guy and based on some of the stupid shit my friend said he did I can't blame them. Now I know that what you are saying about no ammo in the squad bay and having it accounted for at the range is true but even now people can and do sneak out of the barracks at night and the more desperate or enterprising among them could probably break into the armory as well. But the idea that somebody like Pyle could do that is pretty far fetched I will grant you that one.
I wish the fuck you would quit saying this would not happen. Back in the day it happened all the fucking time. Hazing was part of the deal. Man, sounds like the Corps sure has changed.
This did happen and worse lol!. You have to remember the platoon had only 8 weeks before going straight to combat they were brutal! But had to be. You have to remember times were different in the 60s.
I went to boot camp in 1974. I can tell you that blanket parties did happen. Our platoon didn't do one but they did happen. Other than that, the only thing that makes me want to puke is when a Marine puts the words former and Marine together in the same sentence. There's no such animal as a "former" Marine.
That never happens? Idk I’ve heard from sf guys and regular enlisted that you’ll get your ass beat for many reasons especially if it’s affecting the unit. It’s a form of tuff love.
A bar of soap in a sock ask our company yeoman he snitched on a couple of guy's and got them set back 2 weeks and the whole company let him know better not happen again 1974 it damn sure happened.
50 years ago I would bet on it that they hit you. Hell, back when I was in grade school in the 80s we had teachers that would throat grab, try to rip off your ear, and/or you would hold out your hands and get hit with a ruler.
@@TrelltheGreat in boot camp we were getting smoked week2, we had a kid start crying. 3 DI's literally beat the shit out of him while we were doing squat thrusts. He never cried again. Neither did anyone else.
"They'll never hit you" yeah..... now they won't, but back in the day.... oh they did... yes they did.
Yep, they did, or kick you in the shin. I went through boot camp the same time this movie was set in, Dec 1966.
I was going to say the same thing. Nowadays they can’t hit you but Vietnam era was very different
There was a huge shift in the rules about that kind of stuff...physical abuse and excessive verbal abuse and hazing...after the US Military stopped using the draft, and became an all volunteer force. You cannot get away with that stuff if you are dependant on attracting recruits, instead of conscripting them. 🖖💯✌
Hitting was always against their policy my grandpa said but they still would hit u anyway just like they’re not rlly supposed to curse but they still curse all the time just not when ppl are filming it and posting it on youtube
haha! Many a recruit has been physically educated...ridiculous how that rule changed because that was nerve wracking part of it "if I fuck up, I am going to pay the man"
As a former Marine myself, you're very wrong when you say "This will never happen" (on multiple occasions). I know things have changed a lot over the years, but recruits and in some cases DI's commit suicide, or harm each other and that should not be ignored. The pressure is immense. I won't go into detail (out of respect) for the cases that I'm familiar with, but it DOES happen. DI's are also not SUPPOSED to hit a recruit, but human error and emotion DOES come into play, and it happens (even today).
Good luck with the channel Devil Dog.
The Drill Instructor will never hit you? I was at MCRD San Diego in 1988 and I’ll have to disagree with that.... on more than one occasion.
That was 1988 lmao. The corps has gotten so soft since then. They would never hit you if they wanna keep their jobs nowadays
I was at PI in 1997 and the DI's knocked us around all the time. I have seen recruits get punched in the stomach or kicked in the shins. Hazing? We got hazed all god damn day.
He said maybe back in the day but that’s doesn’t happen now
I’ve seen this clip 20+ times it’s never got old😂 Rest In Peace R. Lee Ermey🙏
Missing ya Gunny. Ya were a great inspiration to me.
@ Tell The Great, The Vietnam Era, is before your time dude. They did things somewhat different from your time 40 50 years later. These Marine Corp Drill Instructors now are mentally deranged yelling Damm Fools. In My day, the Drill Instructors, and Drill Sergeants of the Marine Corp and U.S Army could put a Foot up your Azzzzz. They did Yell. But were more articulate with their words. Just like Drill Instructor Hartman in Full Metal Jacket. Now days these Marine Drill Instructors just Gabbbbbbbbbbb over and over again, like a broken record at the top of there lungs.
I ship out to boot camp this Monday, hopefully there isn’t a Pvt Joker in my platoon!!
Good luck, brotha! Remember, it’s mostly mental!
We going together
Tur Bo ayyy nice
Enjoy your last day today bud. Im going in December
Pvt Pyle
I went to bootcamp in 1978 and I saw recruits get their asses handed to them many times. They weren't supposed to hit or kick us but they did!!
My uncle told me about how he saw a drill instructor put a recruit in the meat wagon because he tried to sleep in and skip the morning run lol honestly sounds like the ideal environment to get you ready for the stress of battle to me but everybody has their britches in a twist about everything now.
Which camp
Trell be careful man. This is most likely going to get demonetized. I ain't snitching though.
My late father a Vietnam Veteran said the "this is my rifle this is my gun" is the #1 MOST Accurate scene he's ever scene among all Vietnam films
Never refer your rifle as a gun
This is spot on back in our dads and grandpas days
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I can speak firsthand. Bootcamp scenes are accurate
I need to watch this 😂😭
My favorite movie
Watch it on movies joy you can watch anything u want.
You forget this movie takes place in the Vietnam War most of them were never volunteered they were drafted so that be a possibility. They didn't have no standards back then because your number came up in draft
Marines were all volunteer, it was the Army that did all the drafting.
I went through Parris Island as a Marine recruit in 1968. .. from what I understand R. Lee Ermey was a drill instructor during the same time I was at Parris Island. And Within our platoon of roughly 60 to 70 recruits were ONLY about three or four draftees. We did not think much of them. However, the Army did have draftees, a lot of them. But, the commenter above who says that most were draftees is grossly misinformed and wrong. He is talking about the Army only. We Marines were enlistees and proud of it. Semper Fi -USMC
The recruits/Marines in the sixties got smacked around often. The problem was that a number of recruits died because of extreme training (drownings and other things). Instructors can't get away with that anymore, but they Corps finds ways to make Boot Camp/OCS just as stressful and brutal. It's just different.
Getting smacked around wasn't the reason recruits died back then, it was because they were desperately recruiting ppl that were below military mental or medical standards.
Private Pyle is a perfect example of this. Look up "Project 100,000"
Hate to burst your bubble but I and manny of my compadres received this this treatment in the Vietnam era boot camp was reduced from 12 weeks to 8 weeks and Ermey his self said they were giving out “ love taps “ to to impress and save lives, and we gave a Marine in our Cap squad a Wisk scrub down because he wasn’t showering enough ! , it made him a good Marine, and yes you could have gotten ammo back from the range, but nobody wanted to, just remember times and the Marine Corps were a lot different from your sheltered existence, something you probably thought was made up was the Singing of the Micky Mouse Club song happened in ITR or Rifleman school at night just like the movie ( not Vietnam though) , when I saw the movie I thought that was awesome, everything about the movie was super accurate,especially Vietnam ! , it took me a while to get up out of my seat while old memories flooded my brain, regrets and pride both competed in fact, I believed that I did my duty but always wondered what happened after I left. ! , Semper Fi and God Bless the United States Marine Corps, formerCorporal infantry
Wish I was around for that Corps
@@TrelltheGreat There was a huge shift in the rules in the 1970s and 1980s about that kind of stuff...physical abuse and excessive verbal abuse and hazing...after the US Military stopped using the draft, and became an all volunteer force. You cannot get away with that stuff if you are dependant on attracting recruits, instead of conscripting them. 🖖💯✌
@@iKvetch558 yep one of my high school teachers served in th 50's and said they could kick your dick in back then. That 's what he said, "they'd hit you and kick your nuts in the ground."
@@TrelltheGreat No Trell, you don't. Believe me, you really don't. One thing you have to know was that some marines in that era were drafted. I heard of one draftee that farted in a doctor's face while being checked for piles. The doctor made sure he was assigned to the Marine Corps instead of the Army or Navy.
@@caseyparker6375 😂😂
Facial Hair??? I thought you couldn’t??? Notification gang
And that hair looks longer than 2 inches. Anybody know what's going on with the weekly haircuts in boot camp?
I think he's on leave right now?
@@spencerervin6312 I think they got waivers due to CoVid. Still a Marine base without barbers is hard for me to imagine.
You’re allowed to have a small mustache, but he’s on leave that’s why he has the beard
all the shit he’s saying is funny asf dawg😂. If that was in today’s bootcamp, i wonder how much trouble someone would get for laughing
Ehh, when I was in boot camp 2002, I laughed my ass off the entire 13-14 weeks. I definitely paid for it in PT but it's impossible to not laugh. I also picked up a meritorious promotion during boot camp because I impressed the DI's so they definitely let me get away with it more than the one's that couldn't cut it.
My uncle enlisted in 1970. He told me they really FUCKED you up back then haha and still he’s the proudest mf marine I ever met. Can’t wait to be apart of the Corps later this year! Thanks for the great content! 🇺🇸
Well, the "blanket party" scene maybe something you feel is fake from your time in, but in '84 this was certainly going to happen to one of the guys in my class. It was planned to the hour it was going to happen, but one of the Drills got wind of it and made sure the guy was protected from harm.
Ermey had said it did happen 100% in those days , that is why he did those scenes . The director wanted it to be as real .. as possible for that era during Vietnam .
I heard that the actor who played him wasn't even an actor at all --- literally was a drill instructor who was supposed to 'advise' the actor, but ended up taking his place, and being the actor, himself, anyway
@@Sammm107 Yes i believe Ermey was the advisor also for the movie An Officer and a Gentleman . Where he advised Lou G. Jr in his drill instructor role .
"He went out still roasting him" LMFAO
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to this day 11:37 is still hard for me to watch ..
Lmaoo
Once a Marine always a Marine. There no former or ex Marines. Semper Fi
Okay so boot camp: insanely easy even if you’re in no kind of shape going in. Now what you need to worry about is when you hit the fleet and or ITB. If you’re a f*ck up you will pay. Not necessarily with a sock party, but if your peers are worth a damn, they will peer correct you. Whatever way that takes form is up to them. Take it as you will
I enlisted in the marines a weeks ago, I’m going as an infrantry man because I want to challenge myself wish me luck.
whenyou leaving?
I’m going infantry too man. I’m going to MEPS in September 8th 💪🏾
Fuck yeah man! im going to boot camp on Monday as Infantry
ImNazHam same Paris island
Angel Alcantara Arvizu they didn’t tell me exactly, but they say it can be October
Are you kidding me? This movie is the reason I Joined the Marine Corps in the first place!! They by far lived up to and exceeded any and all expectations I could of had of them! Your hair cut....don't like it....that facial stub....don't like it..... your mustache exceeds the corners of your mouth? And your tattoos were a NO GO! In my time! Anyway I'm OLD SCHOOL and I hope to God they are still! They were my favorite teachers In life! If you don't have or are lacking in life, its because you lacked initiative to get up and get it Yourself!
Air Force basic training made me a man, I went in because my Dad was a retired Air Force Master Sergeant. Too bad he never saw me going in, he died 5 years prior right after he retired. I met my goal of promoting to Staff Sergeant E-5, in part because my Dad was a Staff Sergeant when I was born. Proud to have put up with basic and serve my 6 year enlistment. They made man out of me with a few smacks upside the head!!!!
I went through Navy boot camp in 2013 and our instructors slapped us around lol, so they'll still do it sometimes because they'll get away with it but they'll never choke you or anything like that
Watching this while being a fat 😅 ... 250lbs 5’9 hopefully by beginning of next year I’m ready to join the marines, ready for this challenge 💪🏽
keep grinding bro 💪🏾 you’ll get there
Im 5'6 and 220lbs i started at 240lbs keep going
Bro am skinny but my push ups and run is good. So😀
Seeing a recruiter for the first time tomorrow, I'm excited and nervous as hell at the same time, I hope it goes well... but from what I've been told it's more so to get "my name on the books" than anything
dont overthink it lol
I’m talking to a Marine Recruiter on Friday , I used to talk to one in HS , he’s going to be nice for the most part to try to win you over, Just ask a lot of questions bro it’ll go well don’t stress it
Be honest with your recruiter but watch out for meps that might be just a bit stressful
@@dylanwestbrooks4014 thanks for the advice, I met him today and tommorow at 1pm we are doing an in depth interview --the kind of interview I need to bring paper work and what not, matter in factly (and this is going to sound sad), but today is the first time I've ever went to a bmv and got my driver tempts *and* filled out a bunch of paper work (which I have never done by my self).
It was a hell of an experience man... now I know what adulting feels like and it sucks lol but it's good to take the right steps toward something rather than just sit oh my ass.
Connor Stinnett don’t sign an open contract buddy, if you know an mos that you want.. go for that one, don’t settle cuz they can put you anywhere the corps needs you with an open contract. I’m currently waiting to be shipped in October
The one thing I always thought was crazy about this film is that it’s almost has a feel like it’s 2 different but related movies in one. The part you reviewed in boot camp then the second part after Joker gets to Vietnam. Good movie of course but very dark, but that war was super dark.
nah it wasnt dark it was disney world, you didnt hear them singing mickey mouse at the end?
1990 I saw a goof ball get choked by all DIs, never saw the recruit again.
He actually told the DIs ge had gotten on the wrong bus to the Navy...
😂
I was in boot camp in 1976 and the drill instructor did hit a recruit when I was there, times have changed.
During the 1950's when my dad was being trained for Korea he took part in a "Blanket party"guy's hold the blanket tight on the side with you under it so you get no leverage and the guy they clobbered had his face covered tight so he couldn't see to fight back or who took part.
Bruh why is people saying the MC is bad and they dont treat you right and there not re enlisting whats wrong with it ????????
It could be numerous things. It not only happens in the Marine Corps but also the other branches.
•toxic leadership
•ppl who do not work and still get paid for it
•ppl who got promotions when he/she nevere earned it in the first place while others worked their butts off and never got recognized for it.
I do not think he wants to mention it because he is still under contract. He might explain it when he gets out.
@@lyndonlonzanida mm yea i hear that and see it alot when a guy says he wanna joins
You are wrong about another thing back then men were drafted and as long as they cleared a bill of health from their doctor didn't matter if you could do so many pull ups pushups or sit ups the drafties got into boot camp under special circumstances cause they where drafted it was a war going on and uncle Sam was taking anyone if you had a heartbeat you where in
YOu should consider that this happened in a different era. Things were different.
Liked it, but,(always a but) then vrs now, if you haven't been to both, how to judge? Not trying to be awkward, but just curious about the difference between peace time, and high attrition slot filling. Not in anyway denigrating the soldiers, but the politicians who kept feeding the beast.
You have to remember that today's Marine Corps is WAY different than that of the 60s.
It may not seem real today, but back in the Vietnam era of this film, boot camp was far worse than this movie. Yeah, they hit you and more. The irony of this is Vietnam veteran Marines will watch this movie and laugh their asses off, because we know how real it really is....
You should do a stolen valor reaction video
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I would have gone to the Navy because I heard many of them are...😏
During Vietnam boot camp was reduced to 8 weeks. With a war going on. Many were drafted too.
They could hit you back then. Some of it needed to be done to shock you into the reality of the situation.
A lot of commenters miss this part and compare their boot camp experience to the 60s. They were a bit different…. Your feelings were not a consideration bank then
ayy i been waitin on this, i go to meps friday!
They were hitting in 1966 and then when I came in, in the early 1980's we had Vietnam era Sgt's training us, so they still hit, even though it was frowned upon. No one told. I would assume after all these years it's not done anymore.
They hit all of us. I was in boot camp in 1979.
sheesh
agreed. most of this wouldnt happen but like combat, weird shit happens in boot camp all the time.
There is another Marine boot camp movie called Tribes its 15 years older
Its different & enjoyable
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They would DEFINITELY hit you back in the day......WAY BEFORE your pampered generation came into the Marines. WAKE UP, SON....!!!!
Dude, I went through boot camp at that time. They fucking hit you. It was ugly. I saw some messed up shit.
Mar. 1978
Wanna let y'all know I was first to like but didn't comment:)
You must joined the soft Marine Corps cause when I joined we got beat and blanket parties was real
ig so
Vietnam Era Vietnam Marines will tell you this more accurate than anyone post 1980 military will ever understand. We threw a "blanket party" for a "bully" in my platoon in the Army back in 1987 at Ft Jackson SC.
Can u react to stolen valor
We would love to see the o course video please. And thankyou for your service ❤️😀
The movie was a step in back in time. For my dad. And he cried when some of the guys died. Because he helped out the Marines. Because he was a med-vac for the Air Force. During 1968 and 1969. And they helped out everyone. And he saw the blunt end of war. And my brother and I planned to with him. In 1997 to go to Vietnam to heal. And visit Cambodia and Thailand. To Hellfire Pass to pay tribute to the guys in WW2. Then we go Belgium and Normandy too. To Flanders Field and to Omaha Beach. But sadly he passed away.
Teach us how to do the pull ups and all the planks etc for the marine corps!!!
You are in a Marine Corps that didn't exist even as far back as 1990. During Vietnam they definately hit recruits. This Modern day Marine Corps is like summer camp.
“Get in shape beforehand.”
“They won’t let you in if you can’t do one pull-up.”
This movie is set during the Vietnam War. The last time the US had a draft. Private Lawrence (Pyle) was just a regular guy that got drafted in. He was not there by choice.
That happened and I seen it
"This Movie is Unrealistic ... the Drill Instructor's Portrayed is of a Very SICK Man ! (Even, by 60's Era, on) .... There's 3 Sergeants, Anyway ... But, he would be Deemed Unfit as an Instructor and ... Relieved of his Training Position !"
I went through Navy boot camp in 1976. After I got out, I met a guy who went through Marine boot camp in ‘73. He said the DI’s buttstroked more than once
Paris Island 1980, it was just like FMJ. Except the Drill Instructors were not allowed to punch you, publicly....
@ Trell The Great, You keep saying this would never happen. No now days this is not suppose to happen. But the wrapping of soap bars in bath towels to punish slackers in the Platoon Army Basic Combat Training BCT, and Marine Corp recruit training, this did used to happen in the 60" s and all the way up to the mid 1970's. And the Marine Corp Drill Instructors could knock your Azzzzz on the floor. In 1979, the year I joined the U.S. Army, a new policy, Department of Defense regulations which was passed through Congress, drill instructors and drill sergeants in the United States Armed forces could no longer, commit any type of physical assaults in the military on recruits. if this regulation policy was violated, Your Chain of Command could Charge you with assault and battery under uniform code of military Justice. UCMJ. Facts. The Korean War and the Vietnam War Era was a different animal. Recruits in Army and Marine Corps was getting Their Azz whipped. You are in this Millennial Marine Corps.
"Your parents ever have any children that lived?" that is lowkey one of the funniest insults ever
Thanks for the feedback on this as it was good to hear first hand what goes on in boot camp. If you ever get time, pickup a book by R Lee Ermey called Gunny’s Rules. It is a great read and gives you some history on the movie and his life in the military!
Yeah he's a pretty cool guy
I was in boot camp at.mcrd in calif in 1956 and i think Lee Emery.was a DI their in 1957..and Boot Camp was hell.
1969 MCRD San Diego. The Di did punch you and slap you. I don’t think that they go to that extreme these days. They did have Blanket Parties for motivation but they were uncommon. In 1969 private Pyle would have been dropped and held back in a motivation or physical training platoon. He would have stayed in these platoon until he was in shape then reassigned to another advancing platoon. If he couldn’t hack that he would have been discharged.
0:56 Actually, I'm calling bullshit on this one. Not every recruit in the Marines is Einstein, especially back in the day before the internet. ;) There is a reason why 'most' Marine recruits "of today" wouldn't ever act out. It's because Marine recruits in Vietnam DID act out, and they got really punished for it. ;) Hell, I was hearing about them acting out in the 1980s and getting destroyed afterward. I'm guessing that the word eventually got out that this ain't no game. They acted out in the past so that most of you would learn and so that you guys wouldn't suffer today. :)
They’ll never hit you? Lol. Maybe not in 2021 but they did in 1987 Third Battalion I Co 3074. My dad went through Paris Island in 66 ( the time frame this was supposed to of taken place) and went straight to Nam. We watched this together and when I said they didn’t hit you that much in boot he said the Corps has gotten soft. I’ll watch your video with him and let you know what he thinks of your commentary. They were getting you ready to go to war and mothers of America didn’t have any pull back then. “They wouldn’t let you join if you couldn’t do one pull up” yeah now but you got to remember this was during Nam and the draft. People would fake not being able to not do a push-up if that was the case then. OMG where did you go to boot? We did a blanket party for Recruit Salters before he got recycled. I heard that the DI getting killed during Nam happened. Not positive but... wait bringing back live rounds would never happen we had guys that brought back live rounds and one guy brought back a practice grenade it was found in his footlocker just before graduation. One of our DIs threw a a full canteen at our house mouse and hit him in the head. It knocked him out and he was between racks and hit his head three more times before he bounced his head off the deck. He was out cold and the DI ran over and was saying you’re ok while slapping his face saying wake up wake up. The kid did but he had knots all over his head. I believe they said he slipped in the shower. What year did you graduate boot?
Great video ideas boss! Keep it up love the content! Thank you for your service.
I tried to find a real Viet Nam vet reacting to this movie but they sent me this instead eh well it's still a good reaction but one thing you got wrong they did hit the recruits back then that's why I'd rather watch this from a Marine of that era
We had a bed wetter who was trying to get out of the USMC. He came to our platoon after 6 weeks and he kept pissing in his rack ( bed ) they would let him stand there while we got thrashed. So our DI's told us it was up to us to square him away. So after 3 morning of them thrashing us we had a blanket party that night. And he never pissed his rack again and he graduated with us. Thrashing is 30 minutes of excessive physical training they give you 5 minutes to recover and then they start in again. It can change you and force you to do things you never thought possible.
If a DI did hit a soldier what would actually happen. Would charges of assault be applied against the DI?
He smuggled a donut. Why couldn't he smuggle some ammo? As for getting hit, the drill instructor jammed the butt of a rifle into my buddy's face. It may not happen now, but it happened back then.
They definitely put hands on you lol they did in my platoon anyway in 2012
Those were the years of the real Corps💯
So you honestly think NO new recruit has ever spoken out of turn on the first day of boot? Really?!?
Keep in mind that this movie was set in 1967-1968 at the height of the Vietnam War. There was an active draft, not just volunteers and although the movie says 8 weeks Marine boot camp got cut down to as little as 6 weeks at one point during the war. R L Ermy himself has admitted they physically roughed up recruits back then because they weren't given the time they needed to train them and they weren't getting the quality of recruits they needed. They had to cut corners, and they had to make a big impression in a hurry on this kids. They knew most of them were going to Nam and they knew that the majority that went weren't coming back. They had to do what they could to get these kids ready and give them the best chance they could at coming home.
Again even as late as the 80s blanket parties were still happening to fuck ups in basic training. I knew a guy who went into the army back then who had a fuck up in his basic platoon that got the blanket party treatment. There was another incident he told me about with the same recruit where the drill sgt. threw a coffee cup at his feet and it shattered and cut his foot. This dickhole started screaming about reporting her for physical assault and how he had all these witnesses and literally EVERY SINGLE other soldier in the barracks did an about face to make the point that not one of them was going to back him up or say they had seen anything happen to him. Apparently they really couldn't stand this guy and based on some of the stupid shit my friend said he did I can't blame them.
Now I know that what you are saying about no ammo in the squad bay and having it accounted for at the range is true but even now people can and do sneak out of the barracks at night and the more desperate or enterprising among them could probably break into the armory as well. But the idea that somebody like Pyle could do that is pretty far fetched I will grant you that one.
I wish the fuck you would quit saying this would not happen. Back in the day it happened all the fucking time. Hazing was part of the deal. Man, sounds like the Corps sure has changed.
They will never hit you in the 2000’s, they always went in on you during Vietnam era. Training was much more intense back in the 1970’s.
This did happen and worse lol!. You have to remember the platoon had only 8 weeks before going straight to combat they were brutal! But had to be. You have to remember times were different in the 60s.
Lmao the drill instructors will find ways on how you can technically haze yourself
Went to Parris Island the summer of 1978, DI's would hit you, but not in front of everyone, mostly in the DI Hut
I went to boot camp in 1974. I can tell you that blanket parties did happen. Our platoon didn't do one but they did happen. Other than that, the only thing that makes me want to puke is when a Marine puts the words former and Marine together in the same sentence. There's no such animal as a "former" Marine.
The Blanket party scene really happened in Basic in the 70s during my basic training and it was the last resort and it did work
Never happen young man you obviously never heard of a midnight soap party lol
That never happens? Idk I’ve heard from sf guys and regular enlisted that you’ll get your ass beat for many reasons especially if it’s affecting the unit. It’s a form of tuff love.
You are too young to know about Parris Island in 1972 .%hey beat the shit out of us and usually all three Drill Instructors would jump in your shit
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You called full metal jacket a video. bye
I don’t know what Marine Corps you were in, but in 1974 when I went through boot camp, they would knock the shit out you anytime they felt like it.
A bar of soap in a sock ask our company yeoman he snitched on a couple of guy's and got them set back 2 weeks and the whole company let him know better not happen again 1974 it damn sure happened.
I entered in 1989 and got whooped through PT. Glad I did.
They most certainly would hit you, when I was in boot camp in 1980.
50 years ago I would bet on it that they hit you. Hell, back when I was in grade school in the 80s we had teachers that would throat grab, try to rip off your ear, and/or you would hold out your hands and get hit with a ruler.
These guys were not volunteers.....they were drafted during Vietnam
They only had 8 weeks for boot camp back then. Watch Boys in Company C to see R. Lee Ermy in an earlier movie and react to that
This was my boot in 62. I don’t know when the pussifacation. Started.
Ermey portrayed it as it happened. I think you are talking about modern treatment vs 1960s treatment.
Isn't it based on a true story?
For a few years
2:12 Happened in my boot camp in the 90's. That shit won't fly today though.
Murder of a Drill Instructor would never have happened. We were to trained and scared of the D.I.'s.
I remember gunny getting shot and the suicide scene was the funniest shit when we were watching it on base.
1966 they damn sure did hit you.
I bet they did
@@TrelltheGreat in boot camp we were getting smoked week2, we had a kid start crying. 3 DI's literally beat the shit out of him while we were doing squat thrusts. He never cried again. Neither did anyone else.