You're right, I don't like ghost positions either, as far as automatic watches are concerned. But I'm not sure whether they make mecha quartz movements without date wheels. Since this kind of watch looks better without a date window I think they can be forgiven for the ghost position here. You won't need to pull the crown very often.
Thanks Simon. It's an attractive colour, but the issues you pointed out are quite obvious. I just checked the ceramic bezel on my Pulsar and noticed the 120 is perfect. With the 60 being lined up on the Watchdive, this means the bezel was badly manufactured and not aligned. Some sad news for me. Presently there's a trade war going on between Turkey and China and Turkey has put 100% tax on Chinese products over 20 Euro plus additional import fees which has resulted in two things. First, a lot of the watches are no longer being offered for delivery to Turkey (even this watch for example) and secondly, the final Chinese price is now not far off from buying an original Seiko or Orient diver. The taxes on those are high too but not as much. In Greece for example watches from bigger brands are 35% cheaper than Turkey so my new plan is a quick trip from Istanbul to Greece, on a tour bus twice a year, have a wee holiday, buy a couple of watches and just wear them coming back ! The dispute, sadly isn't even about watches, it's over dumping cheap industrial products like steel for construction, and machinery. Unfortunately watches got caught up in it. So , no Ali Express for me, at least until they sort out the trade dispute. Excellent review mate !
@@WatchtheTime Yes, it's mad. Imagine a higher level San Martin that might cost $300 would now be $720 including tax and import duty. A Tissot Seastar here is only $450 equivalent. I can just walk into the Tissot boutique and pick one up, and a Tissot PRX 80 powermatic is $620 equivalent. $100 cheaper than a San Martin.
It’s a shame about the QC. I have a couple from Watchdives, and I’m quite happy with them. I do believe they changed factories, and this one might be from their old factory. Anyway, I think we had the same conversation about Seestern. Maybe give them another chance in six months or so. Especially if they’re sending you the watch for free. Cheers mate! Did you get your Ascent yet? I got mine, and I love it!
I didn’t know that mate so thanks for the information. As for reviewing another one, I guess we’ll see what happens, never say never. I received my Ascent the other day but haven’t got it out of the packaging yet as got so much in at the minute 😢 Glad to hear you love yours 👍👍
So nice to see an honest review! It is a visually stunning watch. I've had it in my cart for awhile, but just haven't felt like taking the plunge and buying it. QC is definitely a problem. If this were a $50 watch, I would be willing to let it slide, but for it's current price of around $100 (give or take with a sale) they need to do better.
The Pagani Design is literally half the price of this with essentially the same specifications (except the lumed bezel) and it has a regular caseback that doesn’t require a Rolex tool. Do you see any reason to pay such a large premium for the Watch Dives?
Really nice looking watch. Love the color. I have several Mecha Quartz watches. Dan Henry, Straton, Seiko. They seem to be pretty reliable with several years battery life. Shame about the QC issues however.
Always amazes me how and why these companies submit such bad examples for review…. you’d think they would send a decent example for a detailed review and tear down. Thanks for the honest review, there are so many Ali express brand zealot reviewers out there that would overlook and not mention a lot of these issues.
It’s crazy that they sent it to me but the truth is, they shouldn’t be sending out any watches that are in such a condition. I will always keep things 💯 honest mate 👍👍
Indeed they did but I’m just happy I could bring the facts to everyone’s attention, to allow interested buyers the chance to make an informed decision 👍👍
Imo, Sugess make the best daytona homage. Quality is top notch as expected, it's £350 All the components are way above pagani and other midtier ali brands. The brushed surfaces are a smidge better then my San Martins , the fit of the clasp and feel of the bracelet is also top notch. And its a Mechanical chrono.
This would be a pass for me. First, the VK63 makes me nuts with that useless 24 hour sundial slaved to the main hands. Also, this has just too many polished surfaces for me. It looks like a scratch magnet. Too bad about the misaligned bezel, because the lume on it is a nice bonus. However, too many negatives on this one. Great review!
i got the same one. i was disappointed in my whole order. i ordered it and 2 of their gmt's they all had issues. the cheaper steeldives were a better quality. the dial never resets to 12 just like yours
I just bought one and returning it back due to the off-center position of the second hand on the 12 o’clock position. I really could not tolerate this flaw.
Yup. They are junk. On mine, the hand on the 9'oclock sub dial literally popped off the dial after 3 days. Next, the sweep hand snapped off as well. All this within a week. Absolute garbage quality. I should have gone for the PD or Bliger versions.
You're right, I don't like ghost positions either, as far as automatic watches are concerned. But I'm not sure whether they make mecha quartz movements without date wheels. Since this kind of watch looks better without a date window I think they can be forgiven for the ghost position here. You won't need to pull the crown very often.
Good point mate but tbh, I’m on a bit of a crusade at the moment with ghost positions 🤣
Thanks for watching and congrats on your new King Seiko 👍👍
Thank you for the honest review, Simon. I've been eagerly waiting for it. Also, when can we expect the review for the Milifortic watch?
No problem at all mate and the Milifortic will be up very, very soon 👍👍
Mine have all been fine. No issues.
Nice one, am really pleased for you 👍👍
Thanks Simon. It's an attractive colour, but the issues you pointed out are quite obvious. I just checked the ceramic bezel on my Pulsar and noticed the 120 is perfect. With the 60 being lined up on the Watchdive, this means the bezel was badly manufactured and not aligned. Some sad news for me. Presently there's a trade war going on between Turkey and China and Turkey has put 100% tax on Chinese products over 20 Euro plus additional import fees which has resulted in two things. First, a lot of the watches are no longer being offered for delivery to Turkey (even this watch for example) and secondly, the final Chinese price is now not far off from buying an original Seiko or Orient diver. The taxes on those are high too but not as much. In Greece for example watches from bigger brands are 35% cheaper than Turkey so my new plan is a quick trip from Istanbul to Greece, on a tour bus twice a year, have a wee holiday, buy a couple of watches and just wear them coming back ! The dispute, sadly isn't even about watches, it's over dumping cheap industrial products like steel for construction, and machinery. Unfortunately watches got caught up in it. So , no Ali Express for me, at least until they sort out the trade dispute. Excellent review mate !
Sorry to hear about all of that mate, that is a real shame to hear but given everything, I appreciate all your continued support - thanks man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime Yes, it's mad. Imagine a higher level San Martin that might cost $300 would now be $720 including tax and import duty. A Tissot Seastar here is only $450 equivalent. I can just walk into the Tissot boutique and pick one up, and a Tissot PRX 80 powermatic is $620 equivalent. $100 cheaper than a San Martin.
@brianmsahin that is absolutely crazy stuff mate 😝
It’s a shame about the QC. I have a couple from Watchdives, and I’m quite happy with them. I do believe they changed factories, and this one might be from their old factory. Anyway, I think we had the same conversation about Seestern. Maybe give them another chance in six months or so. Especially if they’re sending you the watch for free. Cheers mate! Did you get your Ascent yet? I got mine, and I love it!
I didn’t know that mate so thanks for the information. As for reviewing another one, I guess we’ll see what happens, never say never. I received my Ascent the other day but haven’t got it out of the packaging yet as got so much in at the minute 😢
Glad to hear you love yours 👍👍
I've got the Pagani PD 1644 which I'm very happy with, (apart from the dreadful lume), so I've got no use for this. Nice colour on that dial though. 👍
No problem my friend - enjoy 👍👍
So nice to see an honest review! It is a visually stunning watch. I've had it in my cart for awhile, but just haven't felt like taking the plunge and buying it. QC is definitely a problem. If this were a $50 watch, I would be willing to let it slide, but for it's current price of around $100 (give or take with a sale) they need to do better.
I’ll always keep things 💯 honest mate and highlight everything, it’s what this is all about 👍👍
Buy the Sugess Yes it’s more expensive but worth it. U Won’t have any QC issues
The Pagani Design is literally half the price of this with essentially the same specifications (except the lumed bezel) and it has a regular caseback that doesn’t require a Rolex tool. Do you see any reason to pay such a large premium for the Watch Dives?
In this case mate, I couldn’t sway you from Pagani Design which is a real shame given I don’t really rate PD 👍👍
Really nice looking watch. Love the color. I have several Mecha Quartz watches. Dan Henry, Straton, Seiko. They seem to be pretty reliable with several years battery life. Shame about the QC issues however.
They certainly are popular movements mate and yes, the QC problems are a shame, especially for my first Watchdives watch
Always amazes me how and why these companies submit such bad examples for review…. you’d think they would send a decent example for a detailed review and tear down. Thanks for the honest review, there are so many Ali express brand zealot reviewers out there that would overlook and not mention a lot of these issues.
It’s crazy that they sent it to me but the truth is, they shouldn’t be sending out any watches that are in such a condition. I will always keep things 💯 honest mate 👍👍
They dropped the ball sending this one out to you. Thanks for the honest review 👍
Indeed they did but I’m just happy I could bring the facts to everyone’s attention, to allow interested buyers the chance to make an informed decision 👍👍
Imo, Sugess make the best daytona homage.
Quality is top notch as expected, it's £350
All the components are way above pagani and other midtier ali brands.
The brushed surfaces are a smidge better then my San Martins , the fit of the clasp and feel of the bracelet is also top notch.
And its a Mechanical chrono.
I have never featured a Sugess, perhaps that needs to change 👍👍
Nice looking watch. If they can improve with QC, it would make it a better option.
Most definitely mate. Let’s hope mine was just an isolated problem 👍👍
Fixed Bezel With Wrong Bezel alignment NOT for ME because i dont buy things that didnt work the way they have to do , but the price is good.
I get that mate and I appreciate you watching anyway 👍👍
Terrible QC. Pity as it's a nice watch. San Martin is the way to go if you can pay just that little bit more.
Those sort of QC issues are a real shame and you’re bang on, pay a little more and buy a San Martin 👍👍
San Martin is the best Ali express brand but for this particular watch, I think the Sugess one is top dog
Little bit more? Sm are like double
@garylangford6755 yes, but way worth it mate IMO 👍👍
This would be a pass for me. First, the VK63 makes me nuts with that useless 24 hour sundial slaved to the main hands. Also, this has just too many polished surfaces for me. It looks like a scratch magnet. Too bad about the misaligned bezel, because the lume on it is a nice bonus. However, too many negatives on this one.
Great review!
No problem at all mate - thanks for watching anyway 👍👍
Mate, I have to say there is nothing about that watch I like. Glad you didn't recommend. Always got to keep it honest 💯
You know I’ll always keep things honest mate 👍👍
am I blind or is there no lume on the hour hand in the lume shot?
There is mate, unfortunately the minute hand was over the hour, I’ll be sure to make sure that doesn’t happen again, good spot 👍👍
It shouldn't be a lottery to get a watch without QC issues. Thanks for the review
I completely agree mate 👍👍
i got the same one. i was disappointed in my whole order. i ordered it and 2 of their gmt's they all had issues. the cheaper steeldives were a better quality. the dial never resets to 12 just like yours
Sorry to hear that mate. I really was hoping this was an isolated incident but from the comments I’m getting, it doesn’t look that way 😞
Not my kind of Watch simon,most of my mates have this type of Watch,4 me its the same ole same ole,
your West London Brother,Peace ✌
No problem mate, I completely understand and appreciate you watching anyway 👍👍
I just bought one and returning it back due to the off-center position of the second hand on the 12 o’clock position. I really could not tolerate this flaw.
Sorry to hear that mate. Let’s hope they start getting on top of these issues very soon 👍👍
Seiko quality.
I’m glad you like it mate 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime sarcastically very much 😂
@tpop3723 🤣🤣
Watchdives is a confusing brand, they can't decide if they are PD level or SM level and it's making their product line very inconsistent.
It would definitely appear to be the case mate, let’s hope this is an isolated occurrence from Watchdives 👍👍
Shockingly bad QC 😮
Should’ve mentioned the chronograph seconds hand misalignment in pants section. It looks way off. Great video though! 👍🏻
No problem mate - many thanks for watching 👍👍
Hi Simon do you plan on getting your grail watch watchdives equivalent in for review? Looks like the closest thing without a std sounding name 😃👍
At present I don’t think so mate but that could certainly change in the future, never say never and all that 👍👍
Yup. They are junk. On mine, the hand on the 9'oclock sub dial literally popped off the dial after 3 days. Next, the sweep hand snapped off as well. All this within a week. Absolute garbage quality. I should have gone for the PD or Bliger versions.
Really sorry to hear that mate, that isn’t good enough at all 👍👍
Too pants for me Simon 👎
No problem at all mate - thanks for watching anyway 👍👍
If you stop reviewing Chinese junk, you won't be disappointed 😂
I don’t think all the stuff on AliExpress is junk mate 👍👍