Even though Tyler didn’t say it, he’d have every right to. Like 95% of modern rap (especially this year) falls short to most of his discography. It’s because Tyler is passionate about his craft and most rappers nowadays only do it for the status, money and clout.
Hip hop will never die, nor does anyone actually say that seriously. Not anyone reasonable anyways. The issue is the lack of gatekeeping in rap and hip hop, gatekeeping isn’t inherently bad. Like with anything it’s only bad when overdone or with ulterior motives outside of maintaining the soul of the genre.
Drake and Wizkid did not equate to Dance hall 🥴!!! Drake went to Papcaan (a Dancehall artist) on the Controlla remix for that !!!! Afrobeats and Dancehall is not one and the same.
It’s so funny watching this over and over. The 18-22 yo become the 30-35 yo and raps no longer in good hands, and they become the same old heads that hated on them originally, when they said it was unfair. It so funny to see happen time and time again.
Fax. Even tho I’m still young I know this a “history repeats itself” moment. Seems like ppl forget every era had their trash too 🤷♂️ ppl js a lil too stuck in they ways thinking their music was the ish but everything before it or after it can’t compete 😂 it’s narcissistic when u think abt it
Because let’s be honest here there’s no originality Talentless rappers having success Why you think every time for the past few years new rappers came and fell off just as fast? The actual talent are either dead ,jail or not known.
I think you guys are missing the bigger point.....It's not about being mad at young rappers. It's about the "Amazon-ification" of Hip-Hop as a business leading to the "Amazon-ification" of Hip-Hop as a genre. The way that hip hop is being algorithmically shaped by the rapid shift in our attention economy makes it harder for artists outside of the algorithm's preferred sound/genre-structure, as well as the music industry itself, to actually make money out of their art. The argument would be the same if the lyrical/conscious niggas was what the mainstream algorithm wanted, either way, none of us want hip hop to lose its ability to have variety because soon not enough artists will be able to live off their art in order to PROVIDE us with that music in the future. It puts a crazy barrier around what artists and sounds we will actually even be ABLE to discover on our own, and it actively MAKES YOU POORER AS A CREATOR, WHICH ALREADY PAYS LIKE PISS, so you can't make a living of making your genuine art. You just become a guy on an assembly line who, at minimum, gets to pick what color to paint the toy when it comes off the conveyor belt. Much love; fuck Amazon. ❤
It’s getting ridiculous. If drake wasn’t talented, he wouldn’t be able to do what he does. Other artists would make other types of music if they could, they can’t. Folks hating on drake for things that are normal in music. Styles change. People try new things.
Why doesnt anyone ever talk about how much 2chains did to make the hyper commercialized charicature of rap popular. 2chains dominated for a good 3-5 years. And during that time he did vice shows, beofre tyler* started dressing crazier than lil pumo ever did. I mean he basically became what we thought trinidad james was gonna be if he didnt flop
He was another son of Wayne before Young Thug. Outlandish wordplay, out-of-the-ordinary fashion style, cartoony voices and deliveries. He doesn't necessarily fit the context of what I'm (or Tyler is) addressing in this video though
@@rapaholicz idk, the other thing about 2chains is that he was actually around for a long ass time before duffel bag boys hit. He was steeped in the culture and still flipped it, but ok.
Rappers on reality tv is crazy. Tyler is a thousand percent correct. I could care less about their movements. Drake is the perfect example of all of it gone horribly wrong. If you gotta be out there like that then at least make it content of SOME substance.
There's truth in what you're saying but say it with your chest. What you really wanna say is "Black people do it too!" Not one mention of Lil Dicky or Vanilla Ice (i would say Slim Jesus and The Island boys but they didn't really do anything major)
I like your point i think we are screwed either way because it’s at a point now where it’s fast food you know.. no substance either at least 70% of the music market is saturated w toxic lyrics w solid to good beat production.
@justentime4U If you said "black rappers do it too" I'd probably agree w you a little bit, so leaving out Post Malone, Lil Xan is crazy. I would still disagree after that to some degree, cos Ian doesn't need to use music to make money, Young Thug is from the streets and music is a way out, probably why Tyler didn't mention him.
Either he is uninformed or this is clickbait bullshit. There is great rap in the youth. Everyone always just trying to compare those at the top arguing music is dead. While they continue to listen to mediocre garbage on the radio. Get out there and find the good shit. Hint it doesn't always come from the US.
There’s some good rappers that are coming up central cee bigxtheplug nemzz Aron may there’s just less of them also rap goes through dips and highs this is probably just a dip
Even though Tyler didn’t say it, he’d have every right to. Like 95% of modern rap (especially this year) falls short to most of his discography. It’s because Tyler is passionate about his craft and most rappers nowadays only do it for the status, money and clout.
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To be fair most hip hop artists do this. The videos were literally just twerking in front of cars for years. Low effort garbage for most videos.
@@Bound4Earth he wasn’t just calling out Ian, and many people who do music videos like that will usually make bad to mediocre music.
"Maybe on the weekend he's cosplaying as The Weeknd".😂😂😂
A Tyler/Weeknd collab would be sooo tough
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Hip hop will never die, nor does anyone actually say that seriously. Not anyone reasonable anyways. The issue is the lack of gatekeeping in rap and hip hop, gatekeeping isn’t inherently bad. Like with anything it’s only bad when overdone or with ulterior motives outside of maintaining the soul of the genre.
idk why people assume ice spice, he had her at his festival where he chooses the lineup!
Bro literally said people would talk him out of context and it would be bigger than everything else he said
BROOO STOP SAYING THIS HE DIDNT SAY THIS SHIT BRUH WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW
Only middle school kids listen to Ian don’t get it twisted, he’ll be an afterthought sooner then mfs think
he did not said that. And he was alluding to ONE specific person without saying his name, not every new rappers 😑
Drake and Wizkid did not equate to Dance hall 🥴!!!
Drake went to Papcaan (a Dancehall artist) on the Controlla remix for that !!!!
Afrobeats and Dancehall is not one and the same.
fr!!! i hate that these guys speak on shi they dont kno
Thanks for that comment it’s funny how some people just don’t know nothing outside of hip hop 😅
It’s so funny watching this over and over. The 18-22 yo become the 30-35 yo and raps no longer in good hands, and they become the same old heads that hated on them originally, when they said it was unfair.
It so funny to see happen time and time again.
Fax. Even tho I’m still young I know this a “history repeats itself” moment. Seems like ppl forget every era had their trash too 🤷♂️ ppl js a lil too stuck in they ways thinking their music was the ish but everything before it or after it can’t compete 😂 it’s narcissistic when u think abt it
Because let’s be honest here there’s no originality
Talentless rappers having success
Why you think every time for the past few years new rappers came and fell off just as fast? The actual talent are either dead ,jail or not known.
I think you guys are missing the bigger point.....It's not about being mad at young rappers. It's about the "Amazon-ification" of Hip-Hop as a business leading to the "Amazon-ification" of Hip-Hop as a genre.
The way that hip hop is being algorithmically shaped by the rapid shift in our attention economy makes it harder for artists outside of the algorithm's preferred sound/genre-structure, as well as the music industry itself, to actually make money out of their art.
The argument would be the same if the lyrical/conscious niggas was what the mainstream algorithm wanted, either way, none of us want hip hop to lose its ability to have variety because soon not enough artists will be able to live off their art in order to PROVIDE us with that music in the future. It puts a crazy barrier around what artists and sounds we will actually even be ABLE to discover on our own, and it actively MAKES YOU POORER AS A CREATOR, WHICH ALREADY PAYS LIKE PISS, so you can't make a living of making your genuine art.
You just become a guy on an assembly line who, at minimum, gets to pick what color to paint the toy when it comes off the conveyor belt.
Much love; fuck Amazon. ❤
A streetcred hungry chameleon. 😂😂😂
people need to stop flocking to playlists and genuinely seek out music they love
It’s getting ridiculous. If drake wasn’t talented, he wouldn’t be able to do what he does.
Other artists would make other types of music if they could, they can’t.
Folks hating on drake for things that are normal in music. Styles change. People try new things.
Been bad since 2016 freshman XL
this was such a good and well thought video. you have done your homework very well
Valedictorian is better than anything tyler has put out
Or Drake jus loves diff music and culture. Also Drake def got an identity u know a drake type flow when u hear it.
Why doesnt anyone ever talk about how much 2chains did to make the hyper commercialized charicature of rap popular. 2chains dominated for a good 3-5 years. And during that time he did vice shows, beofre tyler* started dressing crazier than lil pumo ever did. I mean he basically became what we thought trinidad james was gonna be if he didnt flop
He was another son of Wayne before Young Thug. Outlandish wordplay, out-of-the-ordinary fashion style, cartoony voices and deliveries. He doesn't necessarily fit the context of what I'm (or Tyler is) addressing in this video though
@@rapaholicz idk, the other thing about 2chains is that he was actually around for a long ass time before duffel bag boys hit. He was steeped in the culture and still flipped it, but ok.
Wizkid is not Dancehall. Dancehall is Jamaican music not African/Afro Beats
he said the things we all been thinking
Rappers on reality tv is crazy. Tyler is a thousand percent correct. I could care less about their movements. Drake is the perfect example of all of it gone horribly wrong.
If you gotta be out there like that then at least make it content of SOME substance.
There's truth in what you're saying but say it with your chest. What you really wanna say is "Black people do it too!" Not one mention of Lil Dicky or Vanilla Ice (i would say Slim Jesus and The Island boys but they didn't really do anything major)
I like your point i think we are screwed either way because it’s at a point now where it’s fast food you know.. no substance either at least 70% of the music market is saturated w toxic lyrics w solid to good beat production.
@justentime4U If you said "black rappers do it too" I'd probably agree w you a little bit, so leaving out Post Malone, Lil Xan is crazy. I would still disagree after that to some degree, cos Ian doesn't need to use music to make money, Young Thug is from the streets and music is a way out, probably why Tyler didn't mention him.
Either he is uninformed or this is clickbait bullshit. There is great rap in the youth. Everyone always just trying to compare those at the top arguing music is dead. While they continue to listen to mediocre garbage on the radio. Get out there and find the good shit. Hint it doesn't always come from the US.
14:19 Maybe im the problem because im definitely am listening to more albums on list one than list 2
Talent and Motion. Motion these days has more appeal than talent if talent is oversaturated then motion will take over
Wiz Kid = Afro Beats.
Nobody cares
3:53 you cooked him
There’s some good rappers that are coming up central cee bigxtheplug nemzz Aron may there’s just less of them also rap goes through dips and highs this is probably just a dip
It’s not dead it’s evolving soon the meme rap will die out oook at ice spice she’s falling off
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@@authentictalkpodcast no cap hip hop is gettint better and better
why is half of this slandering drake for no reason
Bcuz he is doing it
Tyler is like an actor that didn’t get cast in Planet of the Apes, so he makes music videos with furry hats on.
You obviously don’t know NOTHING about Tyler😭😭
Yeah...go back to your bunnies