Much appreciated! Came into work this morning at my local hardware store and got left with seven of them, along with eight regulars. I’d never seen them before and of course, none of them matched. Thank you so much for the video!!!
I was able to use an old style Everest 6 pin with a 5 pin collar and screw on tail piece to work on that style lock. The cylinder sticks out a bit, but now I can use a C123 key.
Thanks, just installed 2 of these and wasnt sure what I was going to find when I took the cover off to get to the cylinder to repin it so one key operates both locks. Im confident I will be fine when I tackle this tomorrow.
Hey Jason, I might be dealing with some of these locks soon so I did some research. It seems like the old style KIK/KIL standard cylinders are product number 23-034 and the new ones (which a Schlage rep called “trap door style cylinders”) are 29-274. I spent hours trying to find the part number for the new one online last night and finally gave up and just called Schlage today and they gave it to me right away.
Just put 2 of these on a couple employee entrances at one of our office buildings, hadn't bothered to rekey the cylinders to the master yet (lack of time, and there are other entrances I can key into). Definitely different than the last ones I did over a year ago, appreciate the walk-thru 👍👍
I just did a couple of these about a month ago. I definitely went with the shim in the re-key. For some reason I had more issues installing the dang things than I did with the re-key. Also ran into an older model Schlage keypad that didn’t have the plastic access port for the cylinder. I had to remove the entire back plate to get in there and everything exploded😬 Luckily my customer didn’t like the keypad to begin with and went with a Lever lock instead.
I don't like magnetized screwdrivers, however they are needed. knowing how much you like Klein screwdrivers, as I do. Klein makes a magnetize demagnetize little tool that comes in very handy ! I am sure your aware of this already. Good video thanks.
I just did 2 re-keys, and I think the cylinder’s tolerances were off. Pins # 1 were too tall and I had to file them down. But not on the keypad DB or any other Schlage cylinders. I thought it was my key cutter, but the key is perfect in every other cylinder. Hmm
Since it's been 3 years since this video I figured I'd ask if there's anything that's come out since then that would allow for a Kwikset keyway with one of these stubby cylinders?
So looking forward to "retiring" from my current job (at 30+) so I can do some of this stuff afterwards. Too bad the local 'smith I offered to volunteer hours for isn't interested in taking on an oldish intern...lol.
Yeah it sucks, cause you use to be able to use Key in Knob cylinders and swap to whatever keyway.. but with these cams.. I think you are stuck to sc1 know
From a do-it-yourself residential home owner, you’re a life saver! Thank you sir.
Thanks! I have installed a few locks and started rekeying for the family. This was helpful to know about the change.
Much appreciated! Came into work this morning at my local hardware store and got left with seven of them, along with eight regulars. I’d never seen them before and of course, none of them matched. Thank you so much for the video!!!
Hi Jason.
Thanks for taking the time to do this video.
Thank you for the video and tips to rekey the cylinder. This really helped me out.
I was able to use an old style Everest 6 pin with a 5 pin collar and screw on tail piece to work on that style lock. The cylinder sticks out a bit, but now I can use a C123 key.
Thanks, just installed 2 of these and wasnt sure what I was going to find when I took the cover off to get to the cylinder to repin it so one key operates both locks. Im confident I will be fine when I tackle this tomorrow.
Hey Jason, I might be dealing with some of these locks soon so I did some research. It seems like the old style KIK/KIL standard cylinders are product number 23-034 and the new ones (which a Schlage rep called “trap door style cylinders”) are 29-274. I spent hours trying to find the part number for the new one online last night and finally gave up and just called Schlage today and they gave it to me right away.
Replaced an older style one with a newer one. Was able to use the old cylinder assy, back cover/cam, and key from the old one in the new one.
They only did this to save a penny somewhere in production as well as stop you from changing over to other keyways.
Thanks for the lesson my friend.
Good to know how these work. Thanks for the video. 👍
Just put 2 of these on a couple employee entrances at one of our office buildings, hadn't bothered to rekey the cylinders to the master yet (lack of time, and there are other entrances I can key into). Definitely different than the last ones I did over a year ago, appreciate the walk-thru 👍👍
I just did a couple of these about a month ago. I definitely went with the shim in the re-key. For some reason I had more issues installing the dang things than I did with the re-key.
Also ran into an older model Schlage keypad that didn’t have the plastic access port for the cylinder. I had to remove the entire back plate to get in there and everything exploded😬 Luckily my customer didn’t like the keypad to begin with and went with a Lever lock instead.
I had to figure that one out on site with the customer over my shoulder. Turns out, they're pretty popular in my area.
Great information. Thank you!
It'd be great if I could find instructions for the Fe595 levers that don't have to the door in back.
It's Tuesday, and raining now!!!!
Have a great day, corrected
It’s Tuesday, the rain has you bamboozled
I don't like magnetized screwdrivers, however they are needed. knowing how much you like Klein screwdrivers, as I do. Klein makes a magnetize demagnetize little tool that comes in very handy ! I am sure your aware of this already. Good video thanks.
That's on my Front Door ( Levers ), and yes mine has the oddball tailpiece
I just did 2 re-keys, and I think the cylinder’s tolerances were off. Pins # 1 were too tall and I had to file them down. But not on the keypad DB or any other Schlage cylinders. I thought it was my key cutter, but the key is perfect in every other cylinder. Hmm
Since it's been 3 years since this video I figured I'd ask if there's anything that's come out since then that would allow for a Kwikset keyway with one of these stubby cylinders?
@@peternanawa7090 nope :(
Awesome video
Como ahi personas que habren toda clase de. Cerraduras ya no se que voy hacer gracias.
Schlage SL mortise cylinders have a similar style cam system thing.
Thanks, most useful bit starts at 5:50
What sort of black magic is that?? I really appreciate the head's up on this. If I ever encounter this in the wild I'll at least know what to expect.
So looking forward to "retiring" from my current job (at 30+) so I can do some of this stuff afterwards. Too bad the local 'smith I offered to volunteer hours for isn't interested in taking on an oldish intern...lol.
Excellent👍
Where can I buy a cam/tailpiece? Believe it or not customer broke it
you cannot buy any parts for these locks, you may be able to special order a whole cylinder but good luck finding anyone with one
can you do this without the original key? Lost my keys.
yes, any reputable locksmith can rekey these
Go info to know, thanks for doing this video, cheers
How do you rekey this if you dont have the original key that works it
I have the pin and spring out but i cant get the key part out of the casing
@@shagrid1able You gotta pick it (see lock picking lawyer)!
thats a newer model of the fe595
Yeah it sucks, cause you use to be able to use Key in Knob cylinders and swap to whatever keyway.. but with these cams.. I think you are stuck to sc1 know
Die cast cylinder, plastic parts, This lock looks like junk
It's the world we live in!