The AVIAN FLU is here… this is our response.
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- The avian flu is wiping out flocks around the world, should you be worried…
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You do what you feel is best for your birds, I would NOT let them kill all mine either, you know your birds better than anyone, each and every bird. Your doing a great job 👍
i agre
I completely agree, I would never let my precious birds be murdered like that, I would feel terrible
You are doing great man !💪🏻👍
Prevention is number one, once you get it on a farm that’s pretty much done for anything in that enclosure/building. Free range farms are more exposed as wild birds can go into the same spaces, so the cycle goes on and on.
I completely agree and I feel like they will do fine
The scariest thing ever is when someone shows up and says I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Aren't you the ones saying to stop living in fear (of the virus, etc...?)
@@walshhillshomestead2842 To live in fear is not living
I agree wirh you Jake. I think destroying an entire flock is over-reacting. We all witnessed how the government managed (or mismanaged) the pandemic with their confused policies. You are right that each person should determine how to manage their flocks.
Exactly they want no food for anyone I’m in Missouri no one will kill my birds …….
@@Asmile4DonOnly I agree! If you have no food source you can be easily manipulated into any paradigm.
@@Asmile4DonOnly Exactly! See my response above.
This is why predators are so important, they are important for a healthy ecosystem as they pick off the sick, weak, and injury and keep the prey populations healthy
IVERMECTIN KILLS BIRD FLU
@@ashyslashy5818 based off what evidence lol
@@lynettegarcia9219 in my area we have a large amount of whitetail deer. Their only two major predators are humans and coyotes. If an area (like my in-laws’ old farm) isn’t regularly hunted and managed, there’s a population boom then a big die off due to disease. Regular hunting or wild predator management prevents this by keeping the population down. It’s the same in birds.
@@lynettegarcia9219 This is basic ecology
They run off their predators
I totally agree. It is quite needless and actually irresponsible, to cull entire flocks when only a small portion has caught the flu, rather than quarantaining and testing them. The thing we are doing with ourselves and covid because culling people is not okay, but culling animals that might not even be sick apparently is okay?
A few years back it was actually something to worry about in a lot of homes. Even PARROT OWNERS were getting their birds murdered because they lived in AREAS that had the avian flu. This was in California in 2017 i think? 2018? It was really bad one year out in California to the point that counties were in total lockdown, and if a farm or place that owned chickens/ducks etc tested positive or caught the avian flu and had to be culled, the USDA (i dont actually know if it was them or what organization it was, but most likely USDA) FORCEFULLY CAME AND CULLED/TESTED THE FLOCKS IN THE AREA, INCLUDING PET PARROTS/BIRDS. It got to the point that people were HIDING their addresses, animals, etc, not because they were worried about them catching avian flu - but because they were more worried that their birds were going to be killed for LIVING NEAR BIRDS THAT HAD IT
I remember hearing about that on a parrot owners forum as a teen and that scared me. We kept parrots. I keep chickens. My flock is small so i expect if it happens to me the really would have to be euthanized. However, i was shocked to watch a video of a farmer who had some kept in enclosures and did not get bird flu still being culled. This stuff frustrates me as its only to benefit big poultry farms, and is unnecessary.
Anthropocentrism
Dude, how can you test each and single birds? Farms have thousands of birds and the time you finish testing one, it would have spread it to another two. And even if you kill one. The dropping/mucus left by the deceased flock will be present in the place and it will affect them later. We can only do what the guy in the video said. Isolate them as long as you can with the outside world. Yes, it could affect their health but it would go away in few months.
@@yuvanraj2271 Testing is more meant for the birds not exposed or living with the sick birds. For instance a small farm that has different housing units. When the USDA shows they kill EVERYTHING even birds not exposed who live in separate units, so testing and quarantine is reasonable for these situations. This is more in reference to small farmers and hobbyist who otherwise get everything killed.
Large farms with indoor units seem to get to quarantine unaffected units. Yes their situation is maybe a little easier to keep track of, but the usda returns to the properties anyway to ensure certain equipment is not in use, so itd not be difficult to test the unaffected birds.
A non-alarmist view on this topic is really refreshing to hear. Thank you for encouraging everyone to do their own research too!
The thing is that this isn't a normal year, this strain of bird flu has been tearing through Europe and decimating wild birds at an astonishing rate.
There have been more wild bird deaths from this year's avian flu than all the previous tracked years combined. It's BAD.
If you don't want your flock culled, make sure they're not at risk. Lock em up in enclosures where wild birds can't get.
Prevention is the name of the game here. Not just for your own flock, but also for the sake of the wild birds (which are arguably the more important party in this situation)
We are in the process of having our birds at the rescue NPIP certified. Livestock Board rep came and tested every single bird for avian flu. Not one case. And all of our birds are free-range. They also did a cross section for salmonella and all were negative. It’s terrifying to imagine losing all 250+ of our rescue birds but getting certified to boost our rescue is important to us. Being able to sell eggs as well as hatchlings that are guaranteed uninfected and unaffected by the flu is a big deal. It does mean that we have to keep any new rescues entirely quarantined until we test them as well but we are adapting. It isn’t worth it to live in fear. Just do your best and keep your birds safe. Do what you can and conduct business as you can, responsibly. It’s going to be okay. We get tons of wild birds through here. The sandhill crane migration was going on for months here and everyone is totally fine. I say again… it’s going to be okay. Have hope.
All chickens in the UK have been kept indoors for the last 16 weeks and not allowed to free roam outside fenced in runs. But it's been spreading amongst the wild swans and geese across Northern Ireland.
It's a nasty one. Stay safe.
@Joshua Smith if you are in the UK then by law at the moment all chickens no matter the age need to be kept away from contact with wild birds, either in a secure run or barn, also depending on the number you have the flock needs to be registered.
@@paintedpilgrim now that makes sense. Responsible bio security rather than indiscriminate slaughter that really doesn’t work to prevent spread through wildlife
@@pamelaremme38 ???? You don't make sense. Queensland is in Australia. If you trying to allude that the Queen ordered this lockdown then all you are showing is your totally lack of knowledge/education.
@@xhogun8578 oh .I would love to know what she wrote, but it's been taken down.. lol
Yeh and we can't even but eggs that are free ranged 😳 sucks
I greatly appreciate your insight and opinion on this virus. It’s definitely more refreshing than what the media is sharing.
I appreciate that, thank you 😊
Yes ... 🔥 🖤🤍🌱
I appreciate you willing to speak out. Prevention & treatment would be a much better area to focus on. It is not going away. Ever. Learning control & prevention, developing treatments, needs to be the focus
Treatment? Birds are dead within 2-3 days of showing symptoms, even if you had medications at hand for all your birds on the farm you’d need the staff and facilities to isolate and monitor each individual bird. That’s simply not possible for anyone that has farm birds (pets maybe doable), the best prevention we have is to isolate our birds from the wild birds as best we can. That means stopping free range, only feed and water from fresh/clean sources etc.
This is prevention. The domestic culls are not to stop it from spreading between domestics, it's to stop it from spreading to wildlife. The way he frames it is the opposite of the way it's viewed by governments.
The reason it's so harsh this year with culls is that this strain has been DESTROYING populations in Europe. There have been more wild bird deaths from avian flu in this year than in all past tracked years combined. Protecting our wildlife is more important than protecting our domestics.
If you don't want your flock culled, lock em up. That's what the rule is in a lot of Europe, lock your birds up in enclosures where wild birds can't come into contact with them.
By still allowing his flock to be business as normal he's putting his own birds and the wildlife around him at risk.
They forget that farmers care about their animals and have the responsibility over their own flock... My Goodness I just got our first chicks and by comparison my flock is tiny BUT 20 birds are my responsibility and killing all of them if one gets it is craziness.
This one size fits all stuff has got.to.stop! I appreciate you sharing your take on the situation as someone who handles a lot of different fowl. Your family is so precious enjoy spring 2022!
Your 20 birds are indeed your responsibility, that’s why you should listen to experts best advice to keep them safe. Priority 1 should be to keep your flock safe from being exposed to the virus so you don’t have to face that final bad outcome, how do you keep your flock safe? Listen to experts.
@@MrGlennJohnsen and realise that the wild birds that could be infected by your birds are more important than your domestic flock. This strain is unbelievably contagious and if you don't take preventative measures by culling your flock it could have a massive domino effect on your local wild birds. Just look at the situation in Europe for examples.
Don't want your flock culled? Make sure they don't catch it.
And if one does catch it, realise that your entire flock is fucked anyways, due to the ridiculous contagiousness and the 90% death rate. Unless there is zero cross contamination between your birds, you cannot prevent the disease from spreading. Period.
@@batfurs3001 this is a way for governments to control food, as one "expert" said control the food control the people. this is a way for World Economic Forum to get us to eat bugs and be happy about it, not my words theirs. but enjoy your bread and circus while it lasts. Yeah and COVID 19 was the new bubonic plague, but it didn’t kill 50% of the population, and that was a bacteria that lived in rats and transferred to humans only so it has a host that it could live in and incubate without causing its extinction so if a virus has a high mortality rate generally it has a low transfer rate. So take your panic somewhere else
@@MrGlennJohnsen this is a way for governments to control food, as one "expert" said control the food control the people. this is a way for World Economic Forum to get us to eat bugs and be happy about it, not my words theirs. but enjoy your bread and circus while it lasts. Yeah and COVID 19 was the new bubonic plague, but it didn’t kill 50% of the population, and that was a bacteria that lived in rats and transferred to humans only so it has a host that it could live in and incubate without causing its extinction so if a virus has a high mortality rate generally it has a low transfer rate. So take your panic somewhere else
@@MrGlennJohnsen That worked out well for the Vid, huh
Your youngest son is growing soooo fast. He is the cutest and sweetest little boy. He loves to help daddy doesn’t he? We’ll pray that the avian flu passes you all. Amen.
Wake up there is no flu. It's a fear tactic to take our food to starve us out. Wake up. This man is not telling the truth or he's ignorant of the tactics the crooked is using. Yeah get rid of your chickens . Those chickens are fresh and no problems.
I agree with you completely, as the owner you can take responsibility and prevent any illness. I'm a rabbit breeder and we currently have a virus similar to this and the arba gave us the right to decide how to treat and react
Echinacea for humans, worked for our bunny.
I'm curious - what country? And, what is arba? An acronym?
@@melissajarvis4829 ARBA = American Rabbit Breeding Association, this is the rhv2 virus
American Rabbit Breeders Association.
I have to say, honestly, I panicked for a hot second when I watched this because our chicks for this year come from the effected regions of the country but then I remembered hatcheries tend to keep their breeding flocks in building to ensure their health and any chicks we get would be in a six week quarantine anyways as they grow to size. I do have to say thou, I'm suddenly glad our turkey tom has been scaring off all the wild birds from our property this year, even if the flu isn't in or region...yet. Thank you for the information, well presented as always.
It’s not just direct contact that spreads the virus though, it’s the droppings, feathers, water sources and so on.
Water foul spread this like crazy because, ding ding ding, they share water all the time.
Droppings on the ground gets stepped in by birds, people or other farm animals (also mice etc.) and then spreads to your coups through cross contamination.
There’s a reason why authorities are so adament about the risks of this virus…
Commercial Hatchery's usually have excellent biosecurity I would not be worried.
Murray McMurray had an outbreak recently. Nobody is 100% safe. They were never forced to kill all of their birds either. They are still hatching chicks from those sick birds.
@@t.n.1116 We actually had orders with them that were effected. I spoke with them the day after it was announced and the eggs they are hatching from those birds are the ones they had in the incubators already. They are not shipping any of the babies from the sick parents but will keep them to either resupply their numbers, as they lost many of their rare and exotic birds, or they will have to destroy them if they show any illness. I could say more as I had a prolonged conversation with them as they tried to adjust our orders but I will simply leave it at my heart goes out to them and the breeder. Let their failures stand as a lesson on where we can improve our own security. Be safe everyone.
As the owner I think it’s our choice what happens with our flock. No new birds in (friends often call asking to drop off their now unwanted chickens or ducks), use good bio security measures, don’t let people walk through your flock area with boots they wore at another property…and just watch your flock carefully! This too shall pass!
Not until all the commies are dead. They don't stop!!!!
Yes, biosecurity! I read from a flock owner that the USDA was sending an inspector out to test backyard flocks, well the owner refused to let him on the property. The inspector was not wearing protective clothing, had visited several flocks wearing the same articles, and refused to put on protective gear at that property owners place. The inspector was forced to leave without testing his flock, that man warned neighbors not to let him on to test, his flock and the neighbors he warned, all had healthy birds. The flocks the inspector had gone around testing, all got sick and had to be destroyed. BIOSECURITY!
Stop drinking the kool aid. You're drunk...
@@Biomess1 3we w. W&!
Avian flu is always really tricky. Here in the UK, we have to follow the rules of DEFRA, who make us isolate our birds pretty much every winter. This means under shelter 24/7, with no access to wild birds or their faeces. Obviously much easier said than done, but if you're reported by someone that you're not following the rules you could get some charges.
This winter, we had an absolutely devastating event. A wildlife rehabilitation centre near us took in a box of abandoned roosters, who were infected with avian flu. Despite that they had no access to the other animals at the facility, every single bird in their custody had to be culled. It was pandemonium. People started blaming the rescue for the horrible incident, despite how they had done everything they could to try and fight for keeping their birds alive. It's a horrible time for bird owners everywhere.
Wow, that’s insane. Sorry to hear about that.
There are preventive vaccines available in market for Avian influenza. You should consider that option. I personally vaccinate my birds twice a year for different infections cuz i had once lost my whole flock to viral infection in just under 5 days.....
Praying for you guy's and the health of your birds. I wouldn't want anyone to touch my animals in that respect but me. Love to you and your family 👍🤗❤
Absolutely 💯agree with your line of thinking! I stopped watching the news shortly after covid took off. Got sick of lies, misinformation, and the fear mongering.
In the mid 90s here in southwest BC we had a bird flu outbreak. However the ONLY farms that didn't get any outbreaks were the ones that forced the 'inspectors ' to use proper ppe provided by the farm. Found out years later that some 'inspectors ' were spreading the virus deliberately. Kept them employed in a easy job.
Put some farms out of business permanently.
And yet we still have people that absolutely trust the government as if it was some thinking breathing entity that completely compels those that work for it to be totally honest and transparent.
I'm sure there is a sci-fi book/movie in there somewhere.
Sounds like something our corrupt government (US) would do and not bat an eye !!!
Seems like a no brainer to suit up ...geeze....sheep hoof rot can be transported to other farms on boots, boot washes should be at all entrances.
@@WaningGibbous oh they had PPC. They just didn't clean their boots or change out to new, clean PPC when going onto a new farm.
Wait why would they deliberately spread the virus?
This video was such a refreshing perspective. Not hyper-conspiratorial and not fear-based. It’s not common in our current climate to find that balance, so thank you.
I Hope the birds on your farm Stay safe and your family too....My province isnt accepting Pig and poultry products outside our province to avoid ASF and Bird Flu.
Awareness, situational amount of caution and a contingency plan-- instead of panic. That's my own personal opinion. However, don't let anyone cull my boy Bamboo. That is pure emotion. I never thought that I would be enamored with an emu but, after watching him hatch and grow into a big sweet boy; I am emotionally invested in his well-being. I'm glad you are not panicking and really hope that all of your birds remain unaffected. They seem like a labor of love for you guys. --Jessica from Florida 🌞
If we had to hide our flocks in the ground we would. We love our animals more than our money, it would be nice if they thought about a cure before deciding they want to k!ll our animals. Like you said, you don’t have to call and I wouldn’t want to either. There are other ways and we all have to work together to prove that. We love your videos and hope your having a wonderful day🥰😊😔😊
It's the government they solution for everything is death, destruction, control.
@@anorien1 I understand, but sometimes doing what’s in your heart and what you feel best is the right thing to do.
The reason it's so severe this year is because this strain is horrifyingly deadly and contagious. There have been more wild bird deaths from avian influenza this year than all the previous tracked years. For once I feel the media is actually understressing the impact of it.
A cure for avian influenza is extremely unlikely unfortunately. A bird can go from fine to dead in under 6 hours. The reason the culls are so severe is that the government cares more about the wild birds than domestic ones, which I totally agree with.
I do wildlife rehab in Europe. It's a horror show. All it takes is one farmer not reporting their avian influenza immediately because "they can contain it" (they can't) and there's a massive spike in cases in wild birds. Geese are falling out of the sky. Buzzards are dying en masse. I've seen more dead swans this year than any other year. It's horrific.
Follow the guidelines. If you don't want your birds culled, make sure they don't catch it.
Yeah I’m concerned about it. Flocks just the next county over from me have had it. A friend told me one of the local parks had to be shut down because of so many dead geese. I don’t have a way to prevent sparrows from stealing feed unless I keep the chickens shut in, which I won’t do to them. They have a nice sized fenced run. Just crossing my fingers mine don’t get exposed.
From a european friend who has already been in the thick of it for a while, lock em up. If people don't start doing that and preventing infections the disease will sweep across the country and burn through not just farm birds but also wild birds like a wildfire. Here it's been extremely bad specifically with waterfowl and birds of prey.
For context this is the worst year on record for avian flu, worse than all previous tracked years combined in the amount of deaths. It ain't playing nice this year.
It sucks for your chickens, but rather an unhappy chicken than a dead one
Just cover the top of the run and your birds will be safe.
Pretty scary stuff as we raise Ancona ducks, which are not in great numbers here, and not easily available due to their status. I've chosen to keep them in their covered run for now. I think using precautions/preventative measures while migration is at it's height is not living in fear, it's protecting your investment while the worst of this passes by.
EXACTLY!
You don’t invite sick people/kids to your household for a reason, why wouldn’t we take the same precautions with our birds when we know the horrific effects of this avian flu?
Honestly, not doing anything is itresponsible as hell!
I lost all my smaller birds when California had New Castle going through. My birds were healthy but I was way too close to other outbreak sites. I really hope everything goes okay for you guys.
They killed your birds just because others nearby had it?
@@PeacefulAcres yes Newcastle was far more contagious and far more lethal. If you had one bird on your property get it all your birds were going to die pretty much so the only way to stop it was to eliminate the birds near them unfortunately. It was only being spread by foot traffic and not being spread by other birds flying from area to area. The main problem was cockfighting and people breeding and keeping chickens for cock fighting which means they were not properly secure from the disease because if your cock fighting you don't actually care about anything else.
We lost two juvenile bald eagle siblings in a nest on Hilton Head Island back in February after they
contracted HPAI. They both suffered a seizure & fell from their nest within 24 hours of one another.
Both survived the fall & were rescued, but died a day later from the flu. They were close to fledging,
it was very sad! Who knows how many other bald eagles that may have met the same fate, that are
not monitored by a live-stream. Prayers & best wishes for your flock. -Hugs 🤗
Remember when the bald eagles were on the verge of extinction because they were eating dead animals that were shot with lead birdshot and, therefore, were being poisoned and dying? I don't believe anything anymore. If ones uses critical thinking, one can figure it out...and it is damn insidious.
@@PineIslandSeeds Not sure what your point is. I
simply mentioned that 2 bald eaglets died from the avian flu, in relation to the video.
I SO agree with you.
My great grandparents, back in the 1920s owned a dairy farm. Since they sold milk, they had state health inspectors come in randomly to check the animals, especially for contagious things like hoof & mouth disease.
Dairy's often traded livestock to keep the genetics from becoming inbreed. Well another dairy received a cow with hoof & mouth disease from yet another dairy. Instead of reporting it like they were required to do, they set up a swap with my great grandparents. And they also called and reported my great grandparents for having a sick cow. My grandparents tried to tell the inspector that they had just received the cow that day, and it had never even been anywhere NEAR their herd yet. But the people they got it from denied it, and since the people conveniently "forgot" to bring the paperwork with them, my great grandparents couldn't prove anything. Their whole herd was put down, and they weren't allowed to use their farm for cows for however long (I for get the length of time).
They ended up selling their farm, and buying a house in town. I don't know what my great grandpa did after that. I know he got SOME type of job, but he never talked about it. I only found this all out when my grandma (their daughter) was dying. She had been running the business part of the operation for them, and was reliving it all in her delirium at the end.
Since there is no LAW requiring you to report it, I don't BLAME you for not wanting to. If you can save your other birds by careful management, why should you suffer the loss of any more than you HAVE to? What good would it do YOU to report it? It's not like they'll help you save your uninfected birds if you report it. So I frankly see no reason for you to report it, and EVERY reason to NOT report it. Maybe you could prevent the loss of at least SOME of them by staying quiet, and you would SURELY loose ALL of them if you report it so reporting makes no sense at ALL.
I know this is all hypothetical, but I can frankly see no up side in involving the the government, or any agency associated WITH the government, in ANYTHING......period.
What good would it make to report it if you got it?
If your farm has it then it more than likely will spread to nearby wild birds, who then will fly around infecting other wild birds and all of those then will move around spreading the virus- potentially to other farms.
So what good would it do to report it? Do you really want to be partially to blame for other farms having gotten it? Are you really that selfish and naive to say "I only care about and have responsibility for my own land and flock!"???
@@MrGlennJohnsen obviously you didn't hear what he said about abatement DID you? If he keeps infected birds isolated to prevent them spreading it to his OTHER birds, OBVIOUSLY that would ALSO prevent them from coming in contact with WILD birds too.🙄
And if his birds already GOT infected from wild birds, that means that the wild birds in his immediate area have ALSO ALREADY been exposed. So if the wild birds already gave it to HIS birds, exactly HOW do you think it's keeping wild birds from spreading the disease for his entire flock, infected AND uninfected, to be killed?
People need to stop with the knee jerk reactions to viruses and actually start reacting with common sense and forethought. How would destroying over $10,000.00 worth of livestock, keep the ALREADY infected wild bird population from spreading a disease? And his animals have no direct access to other people's livestock, so they COULDN'T spread ANYTHING that way. Besides, this is all hypothetical, his birds are NOT actually infected, and odds are they never WILL be.
Unfortunately it’s a law in the UK due to the highly infectious nature so if i let my birds out and a neighbour reported me I would be prosecuted. I’ve seen what it does to birds so i’m happy to keep mine undercover
It is very difficult to separate the birds unless you drastically remove and cull the sick bird right away. Even that is not easy to be o on top of.
Some birds also show no symptoms but are sudden death cases
Yes, I don't think everyone is realizing how fast this spreads and kills!
So the other weird thing. After all the birds are culled you have to wait 150days before setting up again. However, 150days isn't nearly long enough for it to leach
I think keeping the birds as isolated as possible like maybe divide the flock into two, at least while the flu is at its peak and that could help you keep at least one half away from the others.
your security is sound... the only additional security that can be considered is a dipping method for your boots... where a small pan with 1/4 cup bleach per gallon on water is put out and you simply dip boots as you walk from pen to pen... simple yet effective
I own birds and I have been hearing about that too, I was very concerned and am trying my best to keep all of my bird safe..wish you the best for safe and healthy animals
I really do feel for the people affected by this all over the world,I'm in UK and I have a small flock of chicken's and ducks in separate runs and pens,I have two roofed runs for our chickens (bantams/large) and two netted pens for our ducks (2 drake's+1 drake n 3 ducks) and I have had to keep them in their pen/run since last November and change/disenfectant on boots everytime we go in a different pen/run, normally bird flu lockdown ends in March (on average) but we have had to carry on doing what were doing for our birds sake, I and my kids would be distraught if they had to come and kill all our birds 😭🐓🦆♥️💔a woman had over 500 different birds destroyed ranging from rare black swans all the way down to her canaries in her house and they were not allowed to continue there feed business from there property for about a year (I think) it totally devastated them financially and emotionally but the way I can only see it as if more people avoid it the better,I hope we all come out this ok 🤞🦆🐓♥️
I am also in the UK.
It's heartbreaking to hear about people who have lost their flocks. I can't wait to let mine free-range again.
But with some cases fairly close to me and the amount of wild birds I wouldn't risk letting them outside.
Luckily we have a descendant size covered run.
Oh WOW. That's truly heartbreaking! I have 100 birds, all were started as babies in my living room, each knows its name and comes when called, and I'd be a complete mental case if I went through that loss.
So how we prevent it, is we feed our birds inside of a building, we keep it sanitized best we can, we also keep their water inside, we trim back trees and foliage. Wild birds love to hide in the trees and shrubs. I clean their Coop alot and their dishes and bowls. Our cats keep most birds away. Don't feed wild birds. I find that this helps alot. Our dogs are also out alot, this also helps keeps them away from the birds. I wish they would try to find a cure, but they don't seem like they will. I also give my birds things that boost their immune system
Don't be scared, be prepared. Sounds like you got that on lock! Love the content, sending love to your family and the birds! ♥️
I am of a few minds about this. I've got 2 diseases I keep on my radar for my farm. One is avian influenza the other is RHDV2 which is a rabbit calcivirus. I've known people who have dealt with both. Much of the Avian influenza is about controlling damage to commercial operations and preventing harbor animals like ducks which may not get sick but may continually shed the virus. This is why ducks that come in contact with ponds where wild ducks swim probably should stay separate from the rest of your flock. Think of it like a typhoid Mary situation, the ducks may not get sick but they may wipe out the rest of your birds. In my case there's not a ton to do, my live stock guardian dog keeps most wild birds at bay but I know there are some that hit the food dishes. Hopefully this virus never visits me but if it does I think I'll do my best but I don't see depopulating as the best thing for the average homestead that can spread out.
As far as calcivirus that's another thing entirely. Happily it hasn't visited my area yet but it's only a matter of time. The problem with that virus is it will become endemic to the US and burn through wild and domestic rabbits and hares which means eradication is pretty much impossible. Like distemper those that survive which is less than 10% are never quite right again and unfortunately calciviruses live very well in the soil and are spread by birds, bugs, and other wildlife. So it's changing how I raise rabbits, I closed my herd, changed how I manage water around the farm, am planning new facilities, and will vaccinate if and when the vaccine is affordable and accessible in the US.
So yeah, I'm totally with you on making educated and moral choices because you're the one who has to live with them.
Hope all your birds stay safe from the avian flu! Take care!
you strategy sounds good. I think the eradication method is because food supply. your flock is hobby for the most part (you’re not eating them all).
a higher than usual death rate in a year is something to be concerned about. glad you’re prepared and planning for what you’ll do
Good that you are not allowing the government to scare you into anything! You know your flocks and what they need.
Absolutely!! Your birds don’t mix with other flocks, you’re a responsible American, and these are your birds. No more losing our jobs, our rights, or our welfare because of fear!Your children are so wonderful, as are you both! Blessings!
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I think you’re plan is good and it’s what we had decided to do also. Glad I saw your video and you’re feeling the same.
Mazla is very friendly thanks randy for being so kind to white House on hill I hope they remember your kindness
You are absolutely right. I live in the downtown area of Seattle, and have a small flock of chickens. When I started seeing all the news stories, I freaked out a little bit and over-reacted. I locked my flock up and did not let them take a step out thinking it was for their own best interest. After watching your video, I realize how much I've ovwrreacted. I just opened the tractor back up and let them start roaming the yard. Especially living in the downtown area of a big city, if my flock is going to get it, it's going to get it. Even with them locked up, there are so many pigeons and other birds literally everywhere around the city. There is no point in living in fear. And they were so depressed being locked up that way. Thank you for your take on this situation. God bless
Here in the UK, domestic birds are under legal order to be kept under cover so that wild birds can't get to their food and water and that your birds can't come into contact with wild bird droppings.
You guys should not live in fear about losing your birds. I'm praying for you guys. May the Lord surround you with his protecting angels. May no weapon formed against you prosper.
Were here to support you and your family. Make whatever decision you feel you need to make. You've gotten this far. I stand with your decision.
Thank you for this video! I had the same gut feeling but you guys are far more experienced so it’s nice to hear
Your ducks are going to be the weak link. Water-related birds are the primary carriers and if your ducks are swimming and eating in the same water wild birds are eating and pooping in, the chances are much higher they'll catch it and spread it to your turkeys and chickens, unfortunately. Ducks are carriers and are less likely to die from it, so they may seem healthy.
I'm in Maine and as of March 26,, 2022 we have already had several poultry cases in the southern part of the state, with flocks being euthanized. "Who we should put in charge of our birds", RIGHT THERE is the major point for me, I prefer to be in charge of my birds, THANK YOU VERY MUCH and the thought of some strangers coming in and killing all these birds I've nurtured, cuddled, and named turns my stomach, therefore my chickens and ducks won't be free ranging this year. Unlike some people who just view them as livestock, I have an emotional investment in my birds, not just a financial one. I've got some rare heritage breeds and have put several years into breeding programs. I've got a small brook running through my property that wild ducks, blue herons, and bitterns sometimes visit, so I'm cautious but I'm not going to panic. I've already got a lot of biosecurity measures in place just as good care practices. My birds will have enclosed, solid top runs and greenhouses to roam in instead of free ranging this year. We'll see what happens with AI. Hopefully it won't be such a threat next year.
Sad thing is there is a vaccine for AI that would prevent losses, but there is no way to tell an infected bird from a vaccinated one when testing, so I guess that's why they don't let people vaccinate their backyard flocks. If you watch what's been going on with flocks in the UK it's been a real mess over there according to postings on FB international poultry groups.
To any of the viewers wondering what they can do to help prevent this and other diseases from spreading, among many steps one easy thing you can do is don't wear your chore boots away from chore areas (like out to fill a wild bird feeder, or to run errands in town), and don't wear your town/hiking shoes to do chores. That right there will protect your animals from many outside diseases. Someone with a sick flock is probably wearing their dirty chore shoes to the feed store, and all it takes is some feather dander or poop to spread a lot of diseases, tracked home on shoes. Keep wild birds away from your bird pens. Isolating each of your individual flocks from each other (including not sharing equipment between different flocks) also further helps a lot to keep disease from spreading.
Very good info and tips, right here!
How sad for the people who've lost their birds. Totally think you're taking the right approach. In addition to everything you mentioned, I also think you'd kinda be doing your birds wrong to not try and first triage the situation yourself. Might sound silly but.. you/we as the "humans," sign-up to care-for and protect our animals. Ideally that means we'd do everything possible to protect their lives before we'd allow Mr. Government to deploy a one-size-fits-all flock eradication.
Good on y'all! Stay informed, stay strong. You know what's best for you and your flock!
We had a pen of birds that were really healthy. In it contained 5 silkies and 4 random breeds of bantams. We had 1 rooster that was very healthy in that pen. He was healthy and amazing. One day we fed the animals and everyone was alive. We came back to 1 silkie dead, and all 4 of our mixed bantam breed of chickens dead. They went from crowing and being healthy to dead. We lost another one last night. We aren’t sure what it is, but we are worried about it.
The rooster is a perfect example how parenting should be. Just enough for your kid to back off. No need to take it far.
Here in Virginia, since last year, wild birds were dropping from the sky sick and dying. The news reported that they could not determine any cause for it. Unless you are having a higher than normal sickness and mortality, I would not be concerned. I do recommend watching Ice Age Farmer's video he released today.
5G!!! THAT is why they are dropping from the sky. Don't be deceived!!!!
Ignore the Russian trolls, it's not 5G. If birds are dropping from the sky that's pesticides or unintentional poisoning, especially of larger birds that might be eating rodents.
I really do believe it's 5G... I've researched so much about it and it really harms animals and humans
@@The3sto0ges No it doesn't. Facebook is not research.
@@stargateMimhi Lol, lol. Russian trolls. Omg you haven't figured out who the real enemy is yet? You are part of the problem. Without you even realizing it you are helping the bolchevic starvation plan. Unless of course you are part of the masonic lodge.
I live here in a small town of Palmyra Wisconsin. We just got a big hit with the local chicken farm….they had to kill 3 million chickens and throw away all the eggs…it was so sad to see them have to wipe out the whole poultry farm. Then dumped all the chickens in a huge field mixed with wood chips to compost all of it.
I was so excited to see little man out there with his daddy❤ Jake you have always known what is best for you and your family, I am so proud and happy you are sticking to your ground.
When I see your birds they mean the world to me😍
Smart decision!
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Now that's what I call responsible bird ownership! Information is always key 💜
You have a great helper, today. Thanks for all the information about this disease. Hope your flock stays healthy as possible.
I very much appreciate you making this video as we have been having this discussion lately also.
Education for the people. Good job Jake.👍 😀
As long as your biosecurity is tight ... which is should be with as many different valuable birds as you have ... then you will be fine. Especially since so many of your birds are in covered tractors.
I wish the aviary was complete to protect your birds from all this mess! Stay positive and doing what you do best
If the Aviary is open to the outside, then it won't be safe from Avian Flu. All it takes it one infected bird flying over a netted Aviary, dropping poop, to pass it on to birds within a captive area like runs, aviaries and similar areas people keep their domestic flocks.
Thank you, @Whitehouse on the Hill. I was concerned about my small flock and I feel better now. More at peace. Education and health, but ignore the hype of the media. Be wise and know your flock🥰
I LOVE YOU. You guys are awesome and are just great. I have learned more from you and used all my screen time on you guys
It is so encouraging to hear you say that you will not live in fear and think for yourself. The news can spread fear and panic if we let them.
Great video and Isaiah is such a GREAT helper!!!
I cannot tell you how much, I care about you guys and all of your birds. Especially Bamboo, he is always in my heart. You and Becky know what you want to do and you have been doing this a long time. I pray that your birds do not get. Again, I think the government goes overboard sometimes, and to kill a whole flock is devastating to me. I don't even have any birds but you know I'm still looking for a place a small one. I'm not sure if I agree with the government stuff. But for some, if they lost all their birds to that flu I am sure they would be pretty pissed off. Take care and please be safe. I saw Bamboo!!! Lol, my buddy, even though we have never met but thanks to you all, I saw him grow up. Hugs to everyone and be careful because you have some of the most beautiful birds I have ever seen. Anna Banana
Its been a long time. I missed watching your videos. Good to be back on RUclips and your video is the first thing I saw. Stay safe out there.
One of my birds have already died in Florida and me and my dad are wondering what happened you just help us figure it out and we are now gonna keep the rest of the flock inside
Bravo, Jake!!! Well said. Viruses have actually been around since the beginning of time. We can't allow fear to keep us from living and doing what's right. If only humanity could do that in other scenarios instead of allowing fear to ruin countless lives. We must be strong. Not hide away and stop living.
Praying for your critters and family! ❤️❤️❤️
You have such a healthy and refreshing outlook! Thank you for sharing with confidence!
im glad to have watched this video, pretty interesting and concerning with the avian flu deal.. i hope all the birds and the rest of the animals, including you guys, stay safe and healthy.. love you guyss
a lot of farmers put apple cider vinegar in water every day as a preventative for many things I wonder if it would help with this
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I LOVE your response to the bird flu. Good for you, I would never let the state/government come on my property and slaughter my animals either. Love your channel and content, what a beautiful family and farm you have.
Thank you for this. I have a tiny backyard flock of chickens, and my husband was asking about this. I told him I had heard some, and that some industrial farms were killing their entire chicken population. I told him they certainly must have found actual cases, or they wouldn't destroy all those birds. I also told him I always keep an eye on our flock and any birds around, because, as you said, bird flu has been around for a long time. I told him that, if we hear it is becoming a problem around here, we could cover our chicken yard, but otherwise I am not worried.
I live in the high desert of NM, a couple years go I noticed wild birds dying in my yard and my neighbor’s yards and we told various bird organizations and no one cared. Now the wild bird here are doing better. Wonder if the CDC would have investigated it.
You may have been able to take a bird to a local vet and they would’ve sent it to a lab. This option has been offered to me but I’ve never pursued it
Of course, the wouldn't. We humans don't usually eat wild birds (hint, hint)
We were in las cruces and saw the same thing. Lots of song birds of all varieties. They thought the cause was far fewer insects available for the migrating birds. They were counting on a food supply that was low that year and couldn’t make it.
We were feeding them well at the time and giving water, but it didn’t make a difference.
Sounds like exactly my response to covid. Be prepared and have a plan, do what you can to not spread it to others, but don’t live in fear and upend your life forever. Flus will always be with us, it seems!
Just a thought. Why not put the peafowl with the emus they would appreciate the space. Just need to clip their one wing and so they won't be able to fly out.
May All organisms be blessed with Health and happiness.
It’s not deadly or contagious to humans, and is treatable if you give a damn about your pets. The biggest threat is to the poultry factory farms , which are cruel and sadistic.
It is not treatable in poultry. If your birds get it they will die anyway, within hours. Disappointed by all of the uninformed and irresponsible people here. Keep your birds locked up!
My grandfather fed his laying hens -250 hens-pellet feed with activated charcoal in it that he made. Never in 75 years did he experience mass death. Fresh living green plants as food is the key. Once we learn from practical application and true natural care the days of scare campaigns will be over. The people will demand it.
Healthy animals always have a better chance than weak animals, but don’t claim that it’s some sort of "save all" remedy …because it isn’t.
@@MrGlennJohnsen Unfortunately to late we will all become aware of details our current society that has been frightened into believing. Soon enough the main culprits of our recent past years will be revealed and we will be responsible to our children and grandchildren to research the truth about ALL that has happened let alone the years 2020-2022. The word responsible will become important again. No one will get a pass as they refer all findings to those who create the fear.
Feeding activated charcoal long term is a very bad idea. It absorbs nutrients before their bodies can get them and then passes through them. Charcoal is good for poison exposure and a couple other things, but that's it.
People do all sorts of weird things to their animals, and sometimes they get away with it for a long time without major consequences, but doesn't mean it's healthy for them or that anyone else should take their advice.
@@jasminecollins897 No one ever asked how much and when. Did they? But there is always one who assumes people are doing anything and everything wrong. Must we interjecting assumptions? Over all the decades I have witnessed these pellets given SEASONALLY to treat the laying hens they also ate directly from the fields. Charcoal absorbs toxins and is not digested.
@@cassityart7001 A. You said it was in the feed for all of them, which already means it's being overused.
B. There's no reason to use it seasonally. It doesn't just absorb toxins, it absorbs nutrients as well. It's just fundamentally absorbant. Giving it to them when they haven't been exposed to an actually toxic thing like a toxic plant is useless and potentially harmful.
C. I say something because if someone sees what you said and tries that, their chickens could be harmed.
I hope your birds all make it. The kids are so cute and helpful.
Thank you so much for this. I needed to hear it! 💜
This is exactly how I felt about covid, and hey look I was right!
Covid was nasty in NYC . Those picture of bodies in tractor trailers were real . I used to see them near one of the hospitals
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I appreciate your level headedness. It's never good to overreact.
Yaaaah White House on the Hill video!!! My day is complete! …. Be safe everyone!!!! ❤️
You could also give them some vitamins to boost up their immunity so that they'll be able to over come their the disease or even recover if they contracted it
If you listen to the news you are afraid to leave your house period. Turn off the news!!! Glad you have a logical and sensible approach! Don’t live in fear!
I agree with you. You aren’t dumb and you know your birds. You will be responsible enough to take care and do what needs to be done for your flocks. Govt agency doesn’t know or care about you or your flocks. I’m completely with you and what you choose to do. 😊
Thank you
Its crazy to me - it would be like one person getting sick and the government comes and kills every human in the whole town. It doesn't make sense. Thank you for sharing.
Love your channel. But I completely disagree with you. Avain influenza is a huge issue and birds that get them should be culled. You may say you can contain it on your farm but wild birds not only ducks and geese can carry it to other flocks. Closing them in the coop if they get it would not help as the feces are still on the ground behind them which means other birds can still be affected by it.
Agree completely. It's the same as for the pandemic. Your world affects other's worlds when it comes to communicable diseases.
100% agree as someone witnessing this from the wildlife rehab side in Europe. Not getting your flocks culled if one dies of avian influenza is incredibly selfish towards the wild birds around you.
Geese are falling out of the sky, buzzards are dying en masse, and even at the shelter we've had to do a mass cull, as much as that fucking SUCKED
But the health of the ecosystem is more important than a privately held group of birds. Period. Unless you wanna lose your oh so iconic bald eagle, follow the guidelines.
I love your channel. I saw your comment and liked your profile so clicked it and there was a amazing channel. You seem to be very educated when it comes to parrots. You have yourself one new subscriber
I too agree 100% with you.
I’m sorry but after the past 1.5 years, I don’t trust the government at all so I agree with you about not letting them decide what to do!
Exactly they are all LIARS!!! This is starvation plan Bolchevic style. This is WAR!!!
I have to agree isn't it funny all the food shortages and then they try to convince you to do away with you live stock. And I heard this was going to happen months ago.
Then I just heard of cows with mad cow disease this week too. Wow and in a few weeks you probably be asked to put all cows down.. bunch of bought out dweebs trying to stare is all and burn all agricultural to the grown they want us to starve us become cannibals, one of the two. That is sick . I think you shouldn't take all new casters Mike's and deny them to report anything. And let other actually check these story's out
Yup. All by design. War on us and the people fall for the lies and fear. So sad.
I know what's doing it but you know.
It's a "conspiracy theory" these days.
That's nothing wrong with any animal or human. Just what these grabernment are doing to use in many ways.
Watched a vid of a massive bird death.. they whole swarm literally just fell from the sky all at once in mid flight.... seems there's a force like.. oh I dunno ..a frequency of some kind 😉 that they "run" into.
Sad ...war on us in everyway and the ppl worship their leaders instead and obey cause of fear.. untruthful fear.
@@praisebetoyahuah4156 Well said my friend. Fear is their weapon. The idiot box is their tool to spread the weaponized fear.
A bald Eagle was just tested positive for the bird flu. This was in Vermont state. In April 2022
Amazing video I agree with you 100%
Keep up the great work on your guys videos love to watch them.👍🏻🦃
I agree with 100%thats why I threw my tv away,so sick of gloom and doom😁thanks for the update👍
I don’t have a farm, but I have good friends who have chickens. Killing a whole flock over one chicken getting the flu? I have a liberal mind, but the news loves to exaggerate things. You seem like a great farmer, and love your animals. Your videos are relaxing and calming.
It's called the flu but in reality it's... Not like that at all. It's extremely contagious and kills 95% of the birds infected within 48 hours, and the ones that survive are never the same again.
It affects perfectly healthy birds, it lingers around in droppings and dead bodies for a good little while, and it's been devastating Europe for a while now.
Trust me, as someone on the front lines doing wildlife rehab in Europe right now, the news is underselling how bad it is for once. It's horrific.
I think most people figure if their flock is dieing anyway they get some return by reporting it and letting them come in and cull the rest.
I have never had it in my flock but it seems to run through a flock pretty quick and is highly contagious.
I have a small flock compared to the birds and all the special and rare breeds you have.
I would definitely try lock down and save as many as I could if I had your birds.
If I seen I had a sick bird.
But this comes through every yr and is gone soon as it warms up.
But it can pass from eggs as well.
So be careful bringing in new eggs to hatch as well.
Hopefully this will pass soon as we warm up and we won't have to worry about it again until next yr.
Stay healthy and safe. Hugs.
Glad to see someone not panicking or relying on the government to solve this issue.