Let me just say that these analyzing videos are honestly a gem for me. For someone who draws, and values historical accuracy knowing the details and nitpicks of clothing back then is very valueable, so thank you, and keep it going!
🎩Hi, you just described perfectly my English civil war re-enactment outfit, even down to the colour of your Monmouth cap which I wore under the helmet for padding. Though my doublet is made of wool with a cotton lining. Even my shoes are the same no left or right fitting. Don’t forget the Dutch coat called a cassock in English.
I swear some of the terms rolled back to the continent with Charles's head. Haha. But yes very similar. The jackets in the 1690s frontpiece even have the separate skirts like some doublets. Toadspool tailoring found one jacket while I was doing research that dates 1690s-early 1700s that has slashed sleeves.
Great video very informative . Anything to separate fact from fiction of this time. Period is priceless information. Keep offering knowledge to those that seek it .and keep the black flying
Hi.. just to say real quick that I love your work and that am so thankful for these videos... is the facebook group private? does it have the same name as the channel?
The page is open, the group is private, largely to avoid scammers, it's easy to join. I think the group is something like The Crewe of the Fancy: Pirates and Privateers 1670-1725.
thanks for the great video! So in the context of the 1706 slops contract, what real difference is there in the garments when they refer to some as waistcoast and others as jackets?
Jackets tend to be shorter, but depending on context they can also be the same length as a waistcoat or literally just a waistcoat. It can get very very annoying. The thing I love about the 1706 contract is that it gives some measurements which makes life so much easier.
Continued- A friend brought up Marcellus Laroon who did the Cryes of London as well as a few other awesome sketches, I may do a break down like I did the Buccaneer sketches and this topic will come up A LOT.
@@thecreweofthefancy thankyou for the quick reply! I really am tempted to try and recreate a jacket or waistcoat myself. Did you use a specific pattern for your striped waistcoat?
Hey, thanks again for the great information. just so I understand, in the period between 1690 and 1720, petticoat breeches were worn directly over the undergrament? So essentially, on the bottom half you had drawers and petticoat breeches?
@harrisonlong644 yes, they were full on breeches made from normal clothing fabric, some were quite upper class. They weren't the overbreeches that came later. I want to do a followup video here soon specifically on them.
@@thecreweofthefancy Thanks for the reply. I see, they were normal breeches and not extremely baggy petticoat breeches. Something like you have in this video here? ruclips.net/video/2LoT-90I1s0/видео.html
@harrisonlong644 oh don't underestimate the bagginess. In one pair from I think the 1680s, toadspool tailoring told me she found something like 4 yards of fabric PER SIDE. I normally only use a fat yard or 2 yards for a normal sized pair. Some of the ones worn by the Buccaneers look like full on skirts. The later 18th century pairs were still baggy, but cut different and from utilitarian fabric like hemp and canvas. Earlier you could have wool, silk, linen, etc.
@harrisonlong644 collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O356780/petticoat-breeches-unknown/ this is a 1660s pair but very similar in cut and style to the ones seen in the buccaneer images. Note these are very much upper class.
@@thecreweofthefancy oh I see. in the 17th century / early 18th, breeches were a baggy garment worn over the drawers. In the later 18th century breeches became closer fitting and petticoat breeches were large garments over the top?
Let me just say that these analyzing videos are honestly a gem for me. For someone who draws, and values historical accuracy knowing the details and nitpicks of clothing back then is very valueable, so thank you, and keep it going!
Thank you, definitely more to come.
🎩Hi, you just described perfectly my English civil war re-enactment outfit, even down to the colour of your Monmouth cap which I wore under the helmet for padding. Though my doublet is made of wool with a cotton lining. Even my shoes are the same no left or right fitting. Don’t forget the Dutch coat called a cassock in English.
I swear some of the terms rolled back to the continent with Charles's head. Haha. But yes very similar. The jackets in the 1690s frontpiece even have the separate skirts like some doublets. Toadspool tailoring found one jacket while I was doing research that dates 1690s-early 1700s that has slashed sleeves.
Great video very informative . Anything to separate fact from fiction of this time. Period is priceless information. Keep offering knowledge to those that seek it .and keep the black flying
Thank you!
Hi.. just to say real quick that I love your work and that am so thankful for these videos... is the facebook group private? does it have the same name as the channel?
The page is open, the group is private, largely to avoid scammers, it's easy to join. I think the group is something like The Crewe of the Fancy: Pirates and Privateers 1670-1725.
Well done
Thank you.
thanks for the great video! So in the context of the 1706 slops contract, what real difference is there in the garments when they refer to some as waistcoast and others as jackets?
Jackets tend to be shorter, but depending on context they can also be the same length as a waistcoat or literally just a waistcoat. It can get very very annoying. The thing I love about the 1706 contract is that it gives some measurements which makes life so much easier.
Continued- A friend brought up Marcellus Laroon who did the Cryes of London as well as a few other awesome sketches, I may do a break down like I did the Buccaneer sketches and this topic will come up A LOT.
@@thecreweofthefancy thankyou for the quick reply! I really am tempted to try and recreate a jacket or waistcoat myself. Did you use a specific pattern for your striped waistcoat?
@@harrisonlong644 I modded an existing one. You want a less fitted look than later 18th century examples and the pockets were much more simple.
Hey, thanks again for the great information. just so I understand, in the period between 1690 and 1720, petticoat breeches were worn directly over the undergrament? So essentially, on the bottom half you had drawers and petticoat breeches?
@harrisonlong644 yes, they were full on breeches made from normal clothing fabric, some were quite upper class. They weren't the overbreeches that came later. I want to do a followup video here soon specifically on them.
@@thecreweofthefancy Thanks for the reply. I see, they were normal breeches and not extremely baggy petticoat breeches.
Something like you have in this video here?
ruclips.net/video/2LoT-90I1s0/видео.html
@harrisonlong644 oh don't underestimate the bagginess. In one pair from I think the 1680s, toadspool tailoring told me she found something like 4 yards of fabric PER SIDE. I normally only use a fat yard or 2 yards for a normal sized pair. Some of the ones worn by the Buccaneers look like full on skirts. The later 18th century pairs were still baggy, but cut different and from utilitarian fabric like hemp and canvas. Earlier you could have wool, silk, linen, etc.
@harrisonlong644 collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O356780/petticoat-breeches-unknown/ this is a 1660s pair but very similar in cut and style to the ones seen in the buccaneer images. Note these are very much upper class.
@@thecreweofthefancy oh I see. in the 17th century / early 18th, breeches were a baggy garment worn over the drawers. In the later 18th century breeches became closer fitting and petticoat breeches were large garments over the top?