The WORST* Wrestler in WCW History!! (*according to science) - Wrestle Me Review

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    Marc & Pete head south to meet New Zealand's prestigious Royal Family and buy Alexandra York an expansion pack as they continue their review of WCW WrestleWar 1991!!
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  • @omenoflaherty1294
    @omenoflaherty1294 9 месяцев назад +35

    Jack Victory is like Jericho’s older brother who drank too many tallboys, listened to too much AC/DC, and drove a Trans-Am to his Dairy Queen job.

    • @NEEDbacon
      @NEEDbacon 9 месяцев назад +1

      So basically an IRL Tex Ferguson from Southpaw Wrestling?

    • @jackburton2680
      @jackburton2680 9 месяцев назад +5

      So basically modern day, current. Chris Jericho but with better taste in music...seeing how acdc rules and foggy or whatever his shit band is called sucks

    • @garymck5181
      @garymck5181 5 месяцев назад +2

      That just sounds like AEW Chris Jericho 😂

    • @chrisihrke1021
      @chrisihrke1021 29 дней назад

      So Chris Jericho, but fun, or a worse abusive junkie? If the ladder, I doubt he even has a job much less a Trans Am.

  • @BrokenSaintRW
    @BrokenSaintRW 9 месяцев назад +24

    I am kind of disappointed that you didn't mention how Tracy Smothers may be the last legititimate wrestler (well, as legitimate as you can be in this context) to have wrestled a bear.

    • @WrestleMe
      @WrestleMe  9 месяцев назад +12

      Ha! It's come up in other podcasts we've done, we LOVE Smothers

    • @Leonhearth0
      @Leonhearth0 9 месяцев назад +2

      I'm too young to have known him "live", but after seing some of his work, the guy is on top of my "criminally underrated" list.

    • @sammydabull4001
      @sammydabull4001 8 месяцев назад +1

      How ABOUT Because he's NOT , DUTCH MANTEL ECT. Believe me there more

    • @sammydabull4001
      @sammydabull4001 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@WrestleMeHow ABOUT Because he's NOT , what about DUTCH MANTEL ECT. Believe me there more

  • @ryananthony3104
    @ryananthony3104 8 месяцев назад +8

    As an adult watching wrestling truly the question that never occurred to me as a kid is " what exactly are these guys doing with their junk?*.

  • @coryshannon3815
    @coryshannon3815 9 месяцев назад +44

    I found Victory entertaining in ECW, apart of Corino's stable. I never really thought of him as any main event level guy, just a dude that could work a serviceable match. Nothing wrong with that though.

    • @RoyStantz
      @RoyStantz 9 месяцев назад +7

      Victory did stay with ECW to the bitter end.

    • @jamesthompson3023
      @jamesthompson3023 9 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah he was great at standing in the back ground saying yeah when corino was done tslking😊

    • @coryshannon3815
      @coryshannon3815 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@jamesthompson3023 it was more than that. Sometimes he'd get beat up by New Jack. 😂

    • @patandmacmusic
      @patandmacmusic 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wowwwww!!! I didn’t realize this is the same Jack Victory when I opened this

  • @TiVo67
    @TiVo67 9 месяцев назад +13

    Yeah he looks good in a suit but he still looks like the Red Rooster in the ring. You’d think if Taylor wanted to distance himself from the rooster gimmick he’d get different color ring gear too. Do black trunks and pads.

  • @Filmation77
    @Filmation77 9 месяцев назад +10

    VICTORY first came into prominence with his tag team with Hollywood John Tatum in WCCW and Bill Watts UWF

    • @tomr3422
      @tomr3422 9 месяцев назад +1

      You must be a mature fellow, I remember him pulling the curtain at WCCW house shows and I was a lirttle kid.

  • @stalfithrildi5366
    @stalfithrildi5366 8 месяцев назад +3

    To be fair, a pair of Southern Boys who fought for racism then reinventing themselves as good guy cowboys and hoping nobody remembers has a huge amount of historical precedence.

  • @michaellee8816
    @michaellee8816 9 месяцев назад +6

    The New Zealand militia having boomerangs appealed to the Australian in me

    • @rahowherox1177
      @rahowherox1177 9 месяцев назад

      As the ol joke goes... What do you call a sophisticated aussie?
      kiwi.

  • @gashmcnash3537
    @gashmcnash3537 9 месяцев назад +5

    Terry rocking the same outfit for both companies. There needs to be more Terry/Terri partnerships.

  • @scottmiller1531
    @scottmiller1531 9 месяцев назад +21

    Victory was a solid worker, a lack of charisma and a multitude of poor gimmicks were his problems. He was the heel version of Brad Armstrong.

  • @dasstu
    @dasstu 6 месяцев назад +2

    York: I have put in all the data, and my program predicts victory in Twenty two minutes and forty eight seconds.
    Announcer: The following contest is scheduled for one fall, with a fifteen minute time limit.
    York: ....*furious typing*

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 9 месяцев назад +5

    I was watching the Kayfabe Commentaries ECW Timeline for 1998 with New Jack the other day and he talked about Jack Victory in that interview. When asked about him New Jack he remembered him walking around the locker room in a green thong and just how bad he was in the ring. One night Jack Victory’s match was so bad that he walked out the back, told Paul Heyman not to pay him as he didn’t deserve it, then New Jack said “that was the last time we saw his ass, figuratively and literally with his green thong”. Funny that I never heard of Jack Victory until the KC Timeline Of ECW 98 and now a few days later I get to see him.

    • @johneastwood3039
      @johneastwood3039 3 месяца назад

      He certainly had the ass for that green thong.

  • @Leonhearth0
    @Leonhearth0 9 месяцев назад +7

    I only know this guy for being in ECW Hardcore Revolution and ECW Anarchy Rules on the PSOne/N64.

  • @TheMaskedheel
    @TheMaskedheel 9 месяцев назад +6

    One of my favorite tag teams was Jack Victory and Hollywood John Tatum. Want to say they held the straps in Watts UWF and Wccw.

  • @harryhanz1690
    @harryhanz1690 9 месяцев назад +5

    I work a jock strap when I played football in high school. Fruit of The Loom brand would disappear my stuff. Rawlins brand made me look like John Holmes.

  • @deankilminster5430
    @deankilminster5430 9 месяцев назад +12

    i love all these old videos and you guys always have the best analysis. Also, thank you for teaching me about british wrestling!

  • @CyrusCageSCWS
    @CyrusCageSCWS 9 месяцев назад +3

    The crown still owns all land in Australia and new Zealand. If they want to claim your land you already own, they are allowed to. They haven't exercised that right very much and never on individual families, but legally, they can.

  • @danpettitt7012
    @danpettitt7012 9 месяцев назад +8

    Hardbody Harrison is rated 0.77 on Cagematch

    • @WrestleMe
      @WrestleMe  9 месяцев назад +7

      Excellent research Dan! And that total seems high for HH

    • @steveg2251
      @steveg2251 6 месяцев назад

      Wasn't he some sort of nonce or something?

  • @Donathon-qx8kq
    @Donathon-qx8kq 9 месяцев назад +6

    You know young folks... the 'Trash' 80 was a useable system back in the day...if you could wait for the tape drive to try to load

    • @ChrisHopkinsBass
      @ChrisHopkinsBass 9 месяцев назад +1

      If I wanted a portable that could do some damage, I'd have gone for the Commodore SX-64. Not only could play IK+ on it but Terence Taylor could have knocked his opponent absolutely sparko with it

    • @Donathon-qx8kq
      @Donathon-qx8kq 9 месяцев назад

      @@ChrisHopkinsBass the Commodore (in my opinion the first really good home computer that you bought at a toy store...lol) came out later with a external drive.....

  • @kpllc4209
    @kpllc4209 9 месяцев назад +5

    In his book Ole Anderson actually claims credit for the gimmick in 1990 with Lord Littlebrook as their manager.

  • @theweejoke9850
    @theweejoke9850 9 месяцев назад +8

    I appreciate the lengths Pete went to in researching the computer. No stone unturned

  • @chadalpha7983
    @chadalpha7983 9 месяцев назад +3

    My favorite part of the computer gimmick was when the computer finally calculated all the variables it always came to the conclusion of hitting the opponent over the head with the computer

    • @ChrisHopkinsBass
      @ChrisHopkinsBass 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yeh it was a fantastic international object!

  • @stewroo
    @stewroo 9 месяцев назад +4

    Victory bearing a striking resemblance to Mel Smith in the thumbnail there.

  • @daerth4423
    @daerth4423 8 месяцев назад +2

    He was the butt of many, many jokes with my friends and I back in the day. We never heard the term "jobber" before and would refer to all enhancement talent as "Jack Victorys"

  • @thetylife
    @thetylife 2 месяца назад +1

    *Dusty Rhodes:* Believe me there's quite a lot of data in her computer and it calculated that she should be my daughter in law....

  • @JeffTullock-fs4de
    @JeffTullock-fs4de 9 месяцев назад +3

    He’s ECW. That was wrestling. Hardest working roster I’ve ever seen.

  • @ChrisHopkinsBass
    @ChrisHopkinsBass 9 месяцев назад +4

    I’m sure that The Royal Family got those costumes from Its a Royal Knockout

  • @PtolemyJones
    @PtolemyJones 9 месяцев назад +2

    He looks like a larger Bobby Eaton! LOL
    I always thought Terri Runnels was a beauty.
    I would be shocked if the Trash 80 took batteries, probably needed to be plugged in?

  • @rcofer911
    @rcofer911 9 месяцев назад +2

    He was in a pretty decent tag team with "Hollywood" John Tatum in UWF and WCCW in the mid-1980s, feuding with The Fantastics.

  • @justins2437
    @justins2437 9 месяцев назад

    I looked on your patreon site and there does not appear to be an organized section of ppv podcasts. Am I missing it?

  • @scotttrammell3913
    @scotttrammell3913 6 месяцев назад +2

    Seriously, Terri Runnels/"Alexandra York" was rather sexy back then.

  • @awfpunisher
    @awfpunisher 9 месяцев назад +3

    Jack Victory vs New Jack about a million times in ECW

  • @option3590
    @option3590 9 месяцев назад +2

    Jack Victory is the reason I’ve watched literary any territory TV wrestling lol. I had the WWE Network for a year and decided to use it watch the entirety of Steve Corino’s ECW run. But wanted context on his manager first. So watched every single episode of a show that searching his name brought up.
    It was less than 10 iirc. And I think he was a mid card jobber every time. But still, it was an enlightening experience that I wouldn’t have gotten without his impetus. Hell; the MidSouth episode(s?) he was on also featured both the famed Cornette face-to-cake angle, and a 4-way tag team match that Cornette’s cited as his inspiration for the Triple Threat match.

  • @Necrotog82
    @Necrotog82 9 месяцев назад +5

    Well Giant Gonzalez was in wcw as El Gigante and he has a 1.28 rating.

    • @danpettitt7012
      @danpettitt7012 9 месяцев назад +3

      Well Jeep Swenson was The Ultimate Solution in WCW and he is rated 1.00

    • @Necrotog82
      @Necrotog82 9 месяцев назад

      @@danpettitt7012 Not sure if i should add Ed Ferrara or Bubba Hogans c*m Sponge, they are in the 0. area.

  • @MasteroftheDDT
    @MasteroftheDDT 8 месяцев назад +3

    It was invisible font. U want the opponent seeing ur gameplan?

  • @ifgwelf
    @ifgwelf 9 месяцев назад +4

    what kind of militia would New Zealand have?? Also hafta say the Southern Boys were a great tagteam. Those southern WCW crowds loved them and they moved fluidly in the ring

    • @harryhanz1690
      @harryhanz1690 9 месяцев назад +3

      Well, I think they're called Dwarves, Elves and Hobbits

    • @tomr3422
      @tomr3422 9 месяцев назад

      yep tracy was a big deal in the south.

    • @aceisking
      @aceisking 2 месяца назад

      Because they were the most talented underrated wrestlers in the world IMHO

  • @pooddescrewch8718
    @pooddescrewch8718 9 месяцев назад +2

    his work was sound and still unremarkable

  • @michaellee8816
    @michaellee8816 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thinking wrestle me should dip into the awa at some point: the battle of the breakfast cereal, the green screen episode etc

  • @CactusJackIV
    @CactusJackIV 9 месяцев назад +3

    Dusty hates Ms. York at this time? I loved The York Foundation as a kid.

  • @bend.monetized1596
    @bend.monetized1596 9 месяцев назад +4

    Jack Victory got them faaaatt assses!

  • @42kGaming
    @42kGaming 8 месяцев назад +1

    I only know him from ECW and when he showed up I'm like, who's this mullet man always getting the upper hand on New Jack? Being in ECW wasn't terrible for a wrestler who can't wrestle and he did just grab weapons 😆 He was tolerable as Corino's lackey like others were saying. Also 1985 Wrestling Observer Rookie of the Year 😅😅
    ... staunch 🤣

  • @ChrisHopkinsBass
    @ChrisHopkinsBass 9 месяцев назад +3

    Terry Taylor is much better in this role than Rotundo was

  • @MrSheckstr
    @MrSheckstr 9 месяцев назад +1

    That computer, or one like it, was mentioned in the Tom Clancy Novel Patriot Games …..
    I have always felt that TC had gotten one after writing Hunt For Red October , and liked it so much he plugged it into his next book

  • @TheFlashman
    @TheFlashman 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wow Z-Man really looks like Colin Farrell! 😂

  • @GamerForLifeDrakunia
    @GamerForLifeDrakunia 9 месяцев назад +2

    Nice episode once again. :)

  • @chrisbucci5769
    @chrisbucci5769 9 месяцев назад +3

    I see a new WrestleMe video, I click. Thems tel he rules.

  • @CactusJackIV
    @CactusJackIV 9 месяцев назад +2

    His testicules came loose?!?!? I do not remember that’s I hope they got them tightened back up.

  • @basquat76
    @basquat76 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm fairly confident a wrestler named Z man today would be a heel every where but in Russia.

  • @CarmenCespedes-bp9dv
    @CarmenCespedes-bp9dv 9 месяцев назад +1

    Jack victory was not a terrible pro wrestler its the gimmicks they made him do that made it ridiculous . At times.

  • @pooddescrewch8718
    @pooddescrewch8718 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Pistols were a good team but people wanted style . They had none

  • @TravelatorH8r
    @TravelatorH8r 9 месяцев назад +2

    Dusty defragged it himself

  • @charlesmoore3654
    @charlesmoore3654 9 месяцев назад +2

    I thought Jack Victory and Hollywood John Tatum were a solid tag team in WCCW

  • @steveg2251
    @steveg2251 6 месяцев назад +1

    How did Rip Morgan rate on that site?

  • @chrismorale_
    @chrismorale_ 9 месяцев назад +2

    The wildest shit about this podcast is that they always skip the finishes. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Geeeeezus

  • @jammiebooker6489
    @jammiebooker6489 9 месяцев назад +1

    0:21 the one on the left looks like an actor for Henry VIII

  • @ChrisHopkinsBass
    @ChrisHopkinsBass 9 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder if you can install Chuckie Egg on that TRS80

  • @JaceyMitchell
    @JaceyMitchell Месяц назад

    The Tandy TRS-80 Model 100 was eight years old and had sold some 5-6 million units by that point. Even by 1991 standards it was (and looked) hilariously dated. If you had or knew anyone with a home computer, even a Commodore 64, in 1991 it's pretty likely it looked significantly more advanced than the Model 100. It's one of those perfect examples of the older generation trying to do things they think will please younger viewers without putting in any effort in getting to know even the first damn thing about what they're doing. 😆
    Dusty really was a master at that. I will refer you to his rapping.

  • @ShadowAngel18606
    @ShadowAngel18606 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can't be the worst considering Equalizer/Dave (Evad) Sullivan existed

  • @ChrisHopkinsBass
    @ChrisHopkinsBass 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love Terri as Alexandra York

  • @johnafirth
    @johnafirth 9 месяцев назад +1

    Jack Victory was consistent. Sucked everywhere he worked.

  • @vermontmike9800
    @vermontmike9800 9 месяцев назад +1

    Jack Victory was in WCCW as well. Classic journeyman wrestler. Far from the worse.

  • @medic7556
    @medic7556 9 месяцев назад +1

    You guys do know the Wildeye Southern Boys were not racist. They were fan favorite babyfaces.

  • @geoffchurchill5492
    @geoffchurchill5492 20 дней назад

    Mick Foley tells a brilliant slipped out story in his first book where he convinced Biob Holly to reveal Al Snow's junk in a match

  • @standardofexcellence
    @standardofexcellence 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think this dude was in ecw and he looks like zach morris here with a mullet. Is he saved by the bell?

  • @GilesArt
    @GilesArt 24 дня назад

    The computer gimmick is really fun, I think. But to be honest, it needs to be "100% accurate" for the first few matches before showing any losses.

  • @liveevil6386
    @liveevil6386 9 месяцев назад +1

    Pants under the trunks. If you wore a jockstrap and did a front bump, your sack would pop.

  • @studbourbon798
    @studbourbon798 9 месяцев назад +3

    He was bangin Missy Hyatt.

  • @davidrevelle4328
    @davidrevelle4328 8 месяцев назад

    Jack victory saw him live he bled for us in Poplar bluff mo. They did a show here and it was a raucous crowd... They equaled us to the The ECW arena... And we had no alcohol... Best show I've been to.

  • @emperortrevornorton3119
    @emperortrevornorton3119 3 месяца назад

    Jockstrap are usually like a pocket for a nutcup and usually it puts a type of pressure that hides your package unless you are wearing it with a nutcup

  • @secularbeast1751
    @secularbeast1751 9 месяцев назад +1

    Mine always go on the right side.

  • @pavlovsdogman
    @pavlovsdogman 9 месяцев назад +1

    You should do a Tim Horner episode! 🥸

  • @joshthemediocre7824
    @joshthemediocre7824 9 месяцев назад +1

    He looks like Britains Bad Boy Barry Hardy

  • @christophermoody6840
    @christophermoody6840 9 месяцев назад +1

    @4:15 The Cup goes inside the Jock Stap pouch.

  • @jimmyplenderleith9471
    @jimmyplenderleith9471 3 месяца назад

    Can we not give some quick love for the couple month Luger - Hansen US Title feud? That is a hidden gem on Starrcade 90. Their Havoc 90 match was better

  • @paulberry5750
    @paulberry5750 9 месяцев назад +1

    No, the that jobber Blackheart who didn't sell for Spivey & Sid Eudy is the worst.

  • @MarquisLeary34
    @MarquisLeary34 9 месяцев назад +5

    Not to be that guy, but the whole Wild Eyed Southern Boys gimmick made perfect since JCP/WcW was primarily a Carolina/Georgia based promotion for the longest time. Gotta play to your audience.

    • @L_Train
      @L_Train 9 месяцев назад +3

      There's a clip of Tracy Smothers getting booed and harassed so much by Juggalos that he had to leave before the match even started.

  • @kevinmccaighy8380
    @kevinmccaighy8380 2 месяца назад

    Jack Victory was part of Steve Corino's onscreen entourage in ECW in the late 90s, if that helps!

  • @jasonryanhaley9411
    @jasonryanhaley9411 5 месяцев назад

    He took Condreys place in midnight vs midnight tag match @ ppv. I was disappointed.

  • @ScotsGal
    @ScotsGal 8 месяцев назад

    0:31 " they found these medieval costumes and they've put them on to go for a brawl with another couple of bums" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..just recently found this channel ....I'm now binge watching ...you two are hilarious ..keep up the great work guys 👍

  • @alfredking509
    @alfredking509 4 месяца назад

    Look at the wrestler laying on the ground sleeping behind stan hansen when stan is in missy hyatts face around the 6 minute and 50 second mark pause 7 minute 11 seconds guy looks dead lol😂

  • @runningsuperska
    @runningsuperska 9 месяцев назад +1

    You're asking for trouble with trunks.

  • @ifgwelf
    @ifgwelf 9 месяцев назад +5

    These videos lmao Marc and Peter going on about wrestlers getting their balls out was golden 😂

  • @CactusJackIV
    @CactusJackIV 9 месяцев назад +1

    Jack V baby!!

  • @popachellione6799
    @popachellione6799 9 месяцев назад

    Chief Jay Strongbow...not good...imagine King Kong Bundy accidentally squishing him.

  • @nongs1400
    @nongs1400 9 месяцев назад +1

    WRESTLE ME!

  • @thefaulkness
    @thefaulkness 9 месяцев назад

    another great video from "Straight up" Marc Haynes and "Five nights at freddie's" Pete Donaldson

  • @House_of_Heathens
    @House_of_Heathens 9 месяцев назад

    Gobbledy Hooker did have a few "matches" and even beat R Truth for the 24/7 title I believe

  • @saint_silver
    @saint_silver 9 месяцев назад +1

    you know those guys are neither athletes nor gays, the way they talk about jockstraps like this mysterious thing

  • @tardiscommand1812
    @tardiscommand1812 2 месяца назад

    It’s almost like michaels was using that computer before her

  • @geoffchurchill5492
    @geoffchurchill5492 20 дней назад

    to be fair you see Mick Foley's sock on a number of ocassions

  • @Seanatonin
    @Seanatonin 6 месяцев назад

    Jack Victory was in ECW

  • @chriswarfield7520
    @chriswarfield7520 9 месяцев назад

    A world without Zinc

  • @rustykuntz94
    @rustykuntz94 Месяц назад

    Richard Marley was former NWA/Crockett jobber Rocky King

  • @josephmiller9424
    @josephmiller9424 8 месяцев назад

    Ictory was the flag guy from the sheep herders

  • @BuddsyMalone
    @BuddsyMalone 9 месяцев назад +1

    Swerve is THAT wrestler

  • @CyrusCageSCWS
    @CyrusCageSCWS 9 месяцев назад

    Almost no wrestlers wear jockstraps or cups. They look insane in tights.

  • @davidbernardi3410
    @davidbernardi3410 2 месяца назад

    He's up to 3.22! Trending upward

  • @jonasjohansson5093
    @jonasjohansson5093 2 месяца назад

    Jack Victory looks like Chris Jericho do today.

  • @SpaceAgeMark
    @SpaceAgeMark 9 месяцев назад

    Chaps here's one much worse, David Flair on 2.06.
    Although Jack Victory was rubbish. 0:02

  • @jammiebooker6489
    @jammiebooker6489 9 месяцев назад

    Jenkies Terry, I think you're right for once.