I also think that airing the footage annoyed and put off many fans of AEW since it was seen as tacky and didn't add or reveal anything that would make the promotion or Tony Khan look good. I do hope that AEW can turn it around though.
They wanted to believe that Punk was this crazy liar, and while it's not great that he nabbed Jungle Boy, it was tacky and proved that everybody else lied. Tony saying he was afraid for his life at his own show because Pepsi Phil looked at him angrily and said "this is a joke and I fucking quit, you're a fucking clown" is so embarrassing
It was so dumb to air that footage. In AEW people get left beaten and bloody in the back as normal parts of tv. Then they fire punk for something he did backstage that made Tony fear for his life. Must have been CRAZY whatever Punk did. Then they air it...and it's literally nothing. I would bet 95%+ of their audience had seen worse fights in HS or middle school. Hell I got beat up worse than that in 5th grade lol
CM Punk already did, through the interview with Ariel Helwani, The Elite and Tony "Imma emulate Easy E" Khan went off the deep asylum end of managing a promotion.
To think TK at one point had Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Mark Henry, William Regal, Big Show, Jerry Lynn,l and Dean Malenko in backstage roles and still couldn't book a decent angle. The level of mismanagement is laughable.
CM Punk won't hurt their deal, but firing him will. All he did was do an interview where he was proven to have told the truth. Whether you think he was unprofessional or overstepped or not, that's a verifiable fact. It's losing CM Punk as an on screen performer that absolutely will hurt AEW's deal because he was the biggest draw and the biggest name in the company, whether you see him as a babyface or heel. Whether you watched or hate-watched, he made AEW more compelling. I'm not saying they Tony shouldn't have done something when Phill Brooks stepped up to Jack Perry. But within the context of what happened, you don't fire Hulk Hogan in 1995 from WCW for something like that. You'd fire the guy who talked back to him, even if Hulk was in the wrong. Why? Because it's a business, not a playground. I was never a fan of Terry Bollea. His heel persona was mildly better, but I hated him as a babyface. But if WCW had fired him over things like that, I would have thought they'd lost their minds. The fact that Hulk was in WWF in the early 90s meant that I got to see Bret Hart, Curt Hennig and the other guys I enjoyed watching on a large scale. When he went to WCW and Nitro was launched, suddenly WCW was available on Canadian TV Monday nights, on tape delay right after Raw. The Wars don't happen if Hulk isn't involved. I understood that as a teenager, even if I hated the guy, on and off screen. If you fired Hulk Hogan in 1995, even when he was probably at his lowest point in popularity and getting booed by some WCW and old NWA fans, you would have been stupid. Same thing here. Obviously the business is no where near as popular, so comparing Hulk Hogan to CM Punk in terms of popularity is ridiculous. But their impact on wrestling, given the nature of the business today, is similar. CM Punk is the biggest active name in wrestling right now. More people outside of wrestling know who he is than anyone else.
Tony still he was playing GM mode in old smackdpwn vs raw games where you became storyline writer, booker, manage a budget, and authority figure at the same time, and book his show as if he was in the video games Tony khan does not live in real world, he lives in his own delusion and fantasy world
When Punk came in, then they had the double debut of Adam Cole and Bryan Danielson. Even Jim Cornette himself said that AEW had a chance. For a time, it was hitting on all cylinders until it was time to decide whether AEW will be an indie promotion with a budget or a company dictated on business. You can tell which direction Tony took.
Everyone wants to blame Punk, or Cody leaving, or the Elite or whatever for the eventual downfall of AEW. They're going to go down because it's been 5 years and the company hasn't made a penny of profit...
CM Punk didn't do and doesn't have to do anything. It's all on Tony Khlown's bad business decisions. AEW was over the second Tony fired Punk when it should have been: The Young Bucks, Adam Page and Jack Perry.
AEW was like the Italian army in WW2. Erwin Rommel I believe said that the 'rank & file' of the Italian army was more than adequate. It was their General (and officers for the most part) that failed them.
When AEW is either gone or has become the new TNA maybe then Tony Khan will realize that he should have fired the Young Bucks, Hangman and Jack Perry instead.
that was the only thing that sucked about punks interview with Helwani. he exposed how poorly run that company is. i think aew is a great thing and i feel like they put on some decent shows 80% of the time. but when a guy like Punk says aew will only be around if Tony will spend money on it, a ton of people hear that and will run with the narrative that aew is going on a downward spiral, even if they never watch aew.
You saying collision is pretty much like smackdown in mid 2000s is mad disrespectful! lol Put some respect back on my childhood because those shows actually did have stories I can sink my teeth into at least. Collision gave me nothing since Cm Punk left
Constructive Criticism: AEW needs to do a lot more with their RUclips channel in order to not only try to get those ratings up, but to keep performers busy who aren't getting enough airtime for storytelling and promos.
@@zomb60 They can condense the RUclips stuff for the casual fans. Casual fans probably only need 30 seconds to a minute to get caught up. But it's always the hardcore fans that bring those fans along for the ride. BTW: How come wrestlers don't react to each other's promos? That's an easy way to stretch out content because you have the promo, and then the reaction. It's a 2 for 1 as far as budgeting.
If tge new deal go bad it isn't Cm Punk fault, he isn't in AEW anymore the story between them are over, if the deal go bad or wrong you have to blame the right people and by right people I mean Tony Khan and The Elite all of them put Jack Perry there as well.
Guy was undeniably their biggest star. When AEW started up he was every fans dream roster pick. I was always a casual AEW fan but the most interested i was in AEW was when Punk was there pre Brawl Out. I didn't miss a show he was on and brought all their ppvs with him on it. His stuff was easily the most interesting things on the show. Without him i watch every now and again but it just isn't must watch anymore.
How one man a wrestler, a sports entertainer named CM Punk single-handedly destroyed an Indy company aeW haha! CM Punk for President.. I can’t wait to see this DOC, you know the aEw sweathogs are seething 😂!
I don’t know what it is but Aew’ presentation to me just feels off and I’m not a fan of it. I think the show was ok when it first started but now it’s straight up trash! I don’t watch the shows but I like following what’s going on and I think the show is good for what it is but I’m just not a fan
Cm punk hasn’t been healthy in the last 3 years wrestling He won’t wrestle more than 1 maybe 2 matches this year then get the injured Aew doesn’t care what a crippled afterthought thinks or does Cm punk is cooked
@@beefy45 Most matches were too long or served no purpose. Many wrestlers have the personality of pocket lint. The Miz & R-Truth's Tag Team title reign. Storylines are very unsubstantial, and when they are substantial, they're about the most trivial of matters like Alpha Academy. Like Sami Zayn's the champion yet why does he care so much about Otis, Tozawa, and Maxxine? Liv giving Dominik a key to her hotel room and then later interfering in his match, as if the segment were out of order. Cole calling a wrestler by the wrong name for nearly a minute. The ref flatout seeing interference during the Iyo/Lyra match. Otis jiggling his thighs while the camera only filmed him from the waist up. Damage CTRL fleeing from two small women. Bianca & Jade Cargill getting backstage segments and a long entrance only for them to do nothing. All the Scottish wrestlers getting a match at the upcoming PLE while at the same time nothing happens to make them legitimate threats.
@@johnreyes1749 I don't watch AEW. I gave up on them as soon as I realized nobody on that show has any direction. Maybe I will give up on WWE sooner than later.
It's all because punk couldn't keep it professional and talk about it behind closed doors he had to talk about it in camera shows how much of a hypocrite this guy is and I hope Karma hit some again after he returns gets injured and ends up in the shelf for HHH to release him
Collision wasn’t made to placate Punk. He didn’t want to do it.
right, he didn’t want to. but that’s still why it was made. Tony wanted to keep him so he gave him “his own show”.
It's obvious Tony would side with Perry. Nepo babies gotta stick together. If he was a real boss it would have been squashed a year earlier.
CM Punk was such a draw that people used to make fun of AEW if Dynamite didn't do over 1 million.
They still do
@elmase2163 Tony will stick half The Sinaloa cartels stock up his nose if they ever do 1m again.
@@elmase2163 no.. now they're made fun of if they go under 800k
@@grammysworld5449 yea thats wild havent followed AEW news in a while crazy how low they are going
@@grammysworld5449*700k
I’m simple I see my boy Alfred post I pull up🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🐐
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I also think that airing the footage annoyed and put off many fans of AEW since it was seen as tacky and didn't add or reveal anything that would make the promotion or Tony Khan look good. I do hope that AEW can turn it around though.
They wanted to believe that Punk was this crazy liar, and while it's not great that he nabbed Jungle Boy, it was tacky and proved that everybody else lied.
Tony saying he was afraid for his life at his own show because Pepsi Phil looked at him angrily and said "this is a joke and I fucking quit, you're a fucking clown" is so embarrassing
It was so dumb to air that footage. In AEW people get left beaten and bloody in the back as normal parts of tv. Then they fire punk for something he did backstage that made Tony fear for his life. Must have been CRAZY whatever Punk did. Then they air it...and it's literally nothing. I would bet 95%+ of their audience had seen worse fights in HS or middle school. Hell I got beat up worse than that in 5th grade lol
CM Punk already did, through the interview with Ariel Helwani, The Elite and Tony "Imma emulate Easy E" Khan went off the deep asylum end of managing a promotion.
the network wanted to build a show around him. firing punk did more to hurt the deal than the interview.
The interview where Punk said that he makes chicken salad into chicken 💩 🤣man punk a joke glad time got him good injured all the time
Tony Khan books for people like @detmorales9151, not pro wrestling fans.
I don't even know where to begin with AEW. Lets start by saying that there's certain wrestlers they need to move away from.
There are a lot of wrestlers they need to move away from but the first thing they need to move away from is the owner/booker.
To think TK at one point had Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Mark Henry, William Regal, Big Show, Jerry Lynn,l and Dean Malenko in backstage roles and still couldn't book a decent angle. The level of mismanagement is laughable.
@@jonprice9214 that's why instead of being frustrated, i simply just keep up with it through reviews
CM Punk won't hurt their deal, but firing him will. All he did was do an interview where he was proven to have told the truth. Whether you think he was unprofessional or overstepped or not, that's a verifiable fact. It's losing CM Punk as an on screen performer that absolutely will hurt AEW's deal because he was the biggest draw and the biggest name in the company, whether you see him as a babyface or heel. Whether you watched or hate-watched, he made AEW more compelling. I'm not saying they Tony shouldn't have done something when Phill Brooks stepped up to Jack Perry. But within the context of what happened, you don't fire Hulk Hogan in 1995 from WCW for something like that. You'd fire the guy who talked back to him, even if Hulk was in the wrong. Why? Because it's a business, not a playground. I was never a fan of Terry Bollea. His heel persona was mildly better, but I hated him as a babyface. But if WCW had fired him over things like that, I would have thought they'd lost their minds. The fact that Hulk was in WWF in the early 90s meant that I got to see Bret Hart, Curt Hennig and the other guys I enjoyed watching on a large scale. When he went to WCW and Nitro was launched, suddenly WCW was available on Canadian TV Monday nights, on tape delay right after Raw. The Wars don't happen if Hulk isn't involved. I understood that as a teenager, even if I hated the guy, on and off screen. If you fired Hulk Hogan in 1995, even when he was probably at his lowest point in popularity and getting booed by some WCW and old NWA fans, you would have been stupid. Same thing here. Obviously the business is no where near as popular, so comparing Hulk Hogan to CM Punk in terms of popularity is ridiculous. But their impact on wrestling, given the nature of the business today, is similar. CM Punk is the biggest active name in wrestling right now. More people outside of wrestling know who he is than anyone else.
I agree with everything but the last bit. Brock Lesnar is definitely the most well-known active wrestler to the general public
Not even trying to glaze but goddamn your content is crazy entertaining. I could deadass go on a binge if I had the free time.
You can binge vicariously through me my brother.
Let me in.
As wrong as I think Punk was. The only person responsible for screwing AEW over is Tony Khan.
He tried to grow his company by hiring the biggest draw, and the biggest A Hole in the business.
It’s like appointing Anakin to the Jedi Council.
you must be an incel if you think he was wrong.
@@sleepinggorilla shut it, incel.
AEW will never recover fully from the loss of CM Punk. He was their golden ticket to compete against WWE and there is no replacement.
Ohhh another documentary incoming.....I'm ALL IN XD.
Keeping it real as always! Subscribed! (in Swahili)
1:55 caught the Eminem reference.
Tony still he was playing GM mode in old smackdpwn vs raw games where you became storyline writer, booker, manage a budget, and authority figure at the same time, and book his show as if he was in the video games
Tony khan does not live in real world, he lives in his own delusion and fantasy world
CM Punk is literally living in their head rent free😂😂😂
AEW never "hit on all cylinders".
Well it backfires consistently.
When Punk came in, then they had the double debut of Adam Cole and Bryan Danielson. Even Jim Cornette himself said that AEW had a chance. For a time, it was hitting on all cylinders until it was time to decide whether AEW will be an indie promotion with a budget or a company dictated on business. You can tell which direction Tony took.
They consistently have great PPVs. Once you have access to the big shows, the regular television is just stupid.
@@sleepinggorilla wrong
Everyone wants to blame Punk, or Cody leaving, or the Elite or whatever for the eventual downfall of AEW.
They're going to go down because it's been 5 years and the company hasn't made a penny of profit...
Alfred don’t miss, another banger 🔥🔥
CM Punk didn't do and doesn't have to do anything. It's all on Tony Khlown's bad business decisions. AEW was over the second Tony fired Punk when it should have been: The Young Bucks, Adam Page and Jack Perry.
Sick! You use the 87 Topps All-Star baseball cards for that one segment and it looked awesome!
@otherworldrio is a beast for that one!
MJF isn’t gonna boost ratings, he’s gonna bring em back to 2023. A year that was arguably the worst booking year in company history.
Oh and don't forget their first Black Champion being buried.
Nah you racist
AEW was like the Italian army in WW2. Erwin Rommel I believe said that the 'rank & file' of the Italian army was more than adequate. It was their General (and officers for the most part) that failed them.
I don’t even know how AEW gets those numbers. Who are the people who still watch AEW? The last of AEW fans left when CM punk left.
When AEW is either gone or has become the new TNA maybe then Tony Khan will realize that he should have fired the Young Bucks, Hangman and Jack Perry instead.
that was the only thing that sucked about punks interview with Helwani. he exposed how poorly run that company is. i think aew is a great thing and i feel like they put on some decent shows 80% of the time. but when a guy like Punk says aew will only be around if Tony will spend money on it, a ton of people hear that and will run with the narrative that aew is going on a downward spiral, even if they never watch aew.
You saying collision is pretty much like smackdown in mid 2000s is mad disrespectful! lol Put some respect back on my childhood because those shows actually did have stories I can sink my teeth into at least. Collision gave me nothing since Cm Punk left
Tubi Continued is rude af 😂
😂
This could be another banger
after banger
Constructive Criticism: AEW needs to do a lot more with their RUclips channel in order to not only try to get those ratings up, but to keep performers busy who aren't getting enough airtime for storytelling and promos.
That’s a great idea..
Isn't that what Dark and Dark: Elevation was for? If I recall correctly, they ended both of them due to WBD wanting strictly TV content? 🤔
Not everyone is on youtube tho. They just need a product that casual fans can follow.
@@zomb60honestly I'd argue that RUclips is WAY more accessible than TV channels actually
@@zomb60 They can condense the RUclips stuff for the casual fans. Casual fans probably only need 30 seconds to a minute to get caught up. But it's always the hardcore fans that bring those fans along for the ride. BTW: How come wrestlers don't react to each other's promos? That's an easy way to stretch out content because you have the promo, and then the reaction. It's a 2 for 1 as far as budgeting.
4:14 queue up Tooney town wrestling’s “nomiliversary song”
Tooney Town Wrestling, you say? 🤔
AEW being bad is what makes ppl watch just to see who f_cked up and 🗑 on the internet after
If tge new deal go bad it isn't Cm Punk fault, he isn't in AEW anymore the story between them are over, if the deal go bad or wrong you have to blame the right people and by right people I mean Tony Khan and The Elite all of them put Jack Perry there as well.
Mid 2000 smackdown was the shit. Dont compare aew to that
Like Mussolini!!
kenny better hurry up if he wants to be a real belt collector and leave
Guy was undeniably their biggest star. When AEW started up he was every fans dream roster pick. I was always a casual AEW fan but the most interested i was in AEW was when Punk was there pre Brawl Out. I didn't miss a show he was on and brought all their ppvs with him on it. His stuff was easily the most interesting things on the show. Without him i watch every now and again but it just isn't must watch anymore.
How one man a wrestler, a sports entertainer named CM Punk single-handedly destroyed an Indy company aeW haha! CM Punk for President.. I can’t wait to see this DOC, you know the aEw sweathogs are seething 😂!
2:39 Actually SmackDown 2011 to 2016.
I never rated and hate fhe old bucks
Cody left AEW before Punk did. It wasn’t the other way around. Get your facts right.
Keep crying MARK
@@Est93 but my name isn’t mark…
@mowright6892 you're still a Mark.
@@Lenoxygen like looking in the mirror isn’t it?
@@Est93you cried when you dropped the soap and tyreece got ya batty
I don’t know what it is but Aew’ presentation to me just feels off and I’m not a fan of it. I think the show was ok when it first started but now it’s straight up trash! I don’t watch the shows but I like following what’s going on and I think the show is good for what it is but I’m just not a fan
Damn Alfred ,u really have a hard-on for AEW LOL
Why 4:3?
If I could wring the Dubbalo STINK out of this video, it'd be enough to win $50 and control of Round Two on Double Dare.
Looking back in 2021 (at their peak btw), but I'm sorry, how AEW fumble this? Cause now Cm Punk made AEW look like shit 😂
Just stop talking about this boring cm punk
I will never understand the hate for anything outside wwe why do people only want one wrestling company to exist?
How much does WWE pay you, Alfred?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL CRY ME A RIVER
Cm punk such a draw but where's he at in WWE right now. Haven't seen him. WWE just has way more talent than punk. Tony is killing AEW not punk.
Cm punk hasn’t been healthy in the last 3 years wrestling
He won’t wrestle more than 1 maybe 2 matches this year then get the injured
Aew doesn’t care what a crippled afterthought thinks or does
Cm punk is cooked
WWE is doing a lot wrong today, and last night was a prime example of that.
Last night was fantastic, the talent roster is way too stacked to give everyone a belt, people need to realize that.
How was last night prime example?
You should be happy because AEW is probably getting another flippy, floppy wrestler or are you upset that Chad Gable has possibly resigned with WWE🤔
@@beefy45 Most matches were too long or served no purpose.
Many wrestlers have the personality of pocket lint.
The Miz & R-Truth's Tag Team title reign.
Storylines are very unsubstantial, and when they are substantial, they're about the most trivial of matters like Alpha Academy. Like Sami Zayn's the champion yet why does he care so much about Otis, Tozawa, and Maxxine?
Liv giving Dominik a key to her hotel room and then later interfering in his match, as if the segment were out of order.
Cole calling a wrestler by the wrong name for nearly a minute.
The ref flatout seeing interference during the Iyo/Lyra match.
Otis jiggling his thighs while the camera only filmed him from the waist up.
Damage CTRL fleeing from two small women.
Bianca & Jade Cargill getting backstage segments and a long entrance only for them to do nothing.
All the Scottish wrestlers getting a match at the upcoming PLE while at the same time nothing happens to make them legitimate threats.
@@johnreyes1749 I don't watch AEW. I gave up on them as soon as I realized nobody on that show has any direction. Maybe I will give up on WWE sooner than later.
It's all because punk couldn't keep it professional and talk about it behind closed doors he had to talk about it in camera shows how much of a hypocrite this guy is and I hope Karma hit some again after he returns gets injured and ends up in the shelf for HHH to release him
Grow the f up kid. Also, wasn't it Mr. Hangnail who took the whole thing public first? All over a non-issue I might add😂
He was asked a question, he answered it. Karma hit TK by losing half his og audience in less than 5 years.
Just like the elite and all of those fucks couldn’t quit gossiping to meltzer and spreading narratives?
Shit brother, still making aew and punk videos. Dude move on