That grip extension is on the Belgian made examples. The Nagant revolvers are underrated in the US but Red Army veterans seem to hold them in great respect .
Yep, the milspec ammo is pretty hot. You are right the target ammo is about .32S&W territory. However, 32S&W isn't a pellet pistol either. I think some handloads with .32 wadcutters could be mighty tasty.
Lang Makarov’s definitely have a more powerful round tho and can be concealed easily too. Good carry gun :D don’t lament too bad you made a good choice. I think Nagant is a good plinker but no stopping power like a .45 acp would do
Glad you used the proper ammo as so much commercial ammo is substantially loaded down. I wonder how it would do with those 98grn lead cylinder bullets for reloading. My guess is, that if loaded to mil spec pressure, they would be devastating. They're rather soft lead with an absolutely blunt face, so you should get nice expansion.
The m1895 was my first gun, that I'd bought. Luckily, I had the foresight to buy few tins of the ammo back then. The new stuff does suck, and seems to deactivate the primers, if stored in the gun for defense use. I still have it and it's a great accurate shooter. If you put a small hex nut in by the mainspring, it makes the DA pull a lot better.
Owner of an airsoft replica here, while the hex nut mod is not doable in it as far as I can tell, I found a guide for the same mod using a 357 bullet or similarly sized object by searching "nagant m1895 mods" on google
That loading similar to a black powder loaded 32-20. The gel track showed the bullet most likely did tumble. Russians wear heavy clothing and it was intended to at least penetrate such to kill a man.
When people say the bullet bounces off clothing - its true IF you're using the usually available PPU Nagant ammo. I guess its loaded for target practice - no other use for that. The gentlemen in the video used surplus rounds and the results are much better, relatively of course. I guess, the gun served its intended purpose very well back in its days... it was around for decades, even after officially retiring
Using my calculator the muzzle energy comes to about 230+ ft lbs of energy using the high of 999 fps. That's standard velocity 38 special, 32 H&R Magnum energy. Definitely not an insubstantial amount of power.
My dad joined the Soviet Army in January 1953, as a military doctor. His first side arm was Nagant Revolver. He said it was very "good" pistol - simple, accurate and not very demanding.
@Jeremy Honeycutt It was actually designed and made before soviet Russia on into soviet Russia up until the 50s and even a little after that as it was actually prestigious in soviet russia to own a nagant intial production being in liege Belgium in 1895 and domestic production beginning in 1898 in tula arms plant it was designed in 1886
I know, he says "freakin commies" but it was adopted by the Imperial Russian Army almost 25 years before the revolution. The only thing commie about it was that they had a ton of them available and factories and tools to continue making them after the revolution. As for the "stupid grip piece," at tiny bit of metal like that per unit can add up a lot when materials are scarce during wartime and you need to manufacture as many guns as possible. After you've built a few hundred thousand or million of those while trimming little pieces of steel like that here and there, you'll save many tons of expensive material, as well as reducing weight that costs fuel to move around. Production efficiency that capitalists can surely appreciate.
I keep thinking about getting one of these, but where I live, the ammo is hard to get. Would actually make a really good little squirrel, rabbit or grouse getter if you fire single action.
Yeah, these will chamber 32 s&w longs man. Which is pretty cheap. But the days of finding the guns at $180 are gone. They've dried up to all $300 or more.
That's an 1895 nangant revolver, unique,the magic numbers for handguns is 950 fps to 1,100 less than 7 yards/ meters a stomach shot is required, they don't teach that anymore
Do you know if they ever loaded hollow points for these? Its a small light bullet but at the speeds of the surplus ammo a hollow point would compensate that in performance imo... I kick myself for not getting one when they were 100 bucks. Not only are they expensive now, I also just cant find them anymore.
Don't let yourself trick yourself into making yourself nervous for you man just remember that everybody is here watching this came here cuz they felt like taking time out of their day to watch you they already gave you the thumbs up by showing up If later on they feel like they didn't make the best use of their time and their lives they're probably not going to actually complain to the people that wasted all the time in their lives they might complain to people that made stuff like videos they watched but they watch those videos because they decided they wanted to see that person and hear what they had to say So that person did their job they sold them.... I wish there was more like this out there thanks a heap
I have a giant spam can full of 7.62x38r 70's surplus. I feel like i need the cylinders sanded down though. I can't eject the casings at all with the extractor.
Ballistically the original black powder loads were very close to the black powder loaded 32-20 in a revolver. The 32-20 was a popular combat round at one time. The nagant revolver was used against people wearing winter clothing and also against horses. People used to fight from horse back at one time and horses got shot. The only thing bad about that design is the horrible double action.
@@professorpewpuew designed for smokeless but would be great for black due to the gas seal keeping the fouling out of the action. Wish I had gotten one or two when they were affordable.
A little bit of a late reply, but I find this pistol to be pretty accurate. I could reliably hit a man sized target at 100 yards while holding it in one hand. The surplus loads have barely any upward recoil.
I'm currently re-clambering my nagant revolver to 30 mauser. of course they will be modest reloads, no factory stuff. too hot. anyhow reason being is 1. csnt find replacement original cylinder, and 2. my original cylinder was machined so rough I cannot extract empties, and they. are bulges out.
30 Mauser is probably too hot. I am not familiar with how much metal you will have left to work with once the reaming is done, especially the bottleneck of the case.
I conceal carried one for several months until I got a different revolver. Luckily I never had to use it. The civilian rounds are much weaker than the surplus but I still wouldn’t want to get shot with it.
It probably looks a bit better than the refurb blue on mine. I like it. but some are refurbished well, and some are refurbished just to cover up defects or just plain being worn out.
fiocchi and shit, ive heard, is loaded to certain EU regulations in terms of pressures. hence why it's so dramatically underpowered. idk if it's totally true, i load 98gr wads with unique to about 300ftlb (~1200fps). i know some ppl have drilled tokarev cylinders which hold up okay. crazy lil gun
Nah I'm not impressed when you consider a few things.for one you shot point blank rather then 7 yards. But that was a fmj. To say it's on par with service rounds isn't a accurate. It can't expand and penetrate like a modern .380 and 9mm or .40. and a 9mm fmj would have gone clean through both blocks and kept going strong a ways.
Muzzle velocity should NO LESS 300m/sec! 🤣 That minimum requirement for Russian army! Try True load surplus loads go +1300fps (400m/sec) U have target load to make paper holes
I laughed out loud at the “in a lot of ways it was ahead of its time “ considering that the U.S. had a better pistol in the colt single action army a decade before the Nagant even came out. It was better in every way. Harder hitting, easier to shoot, easier to load, better balance, better trigger, better quality and less prone to jamb from dirt dust and debris. The nagant pistol was behind the times the day it came off the assembly line.
Double vs single action gas seal is a great innovation especially for close quarters like in a tank or in a crowd... one more shot = 17% more faster firepower smaller also so not a nicely made but totally practical and rugged for military use. Ahead not behind and the Russians used what worked never mind marketing ploys like all US manufacturers..so stop laughing Mr. Cowboy... the Red Army is moving on without you..
Daniel LeClare The idea was innovative but the Nagant was a failed experiment. It stayed in the Russian inventory because no one else wanted it and neither did they. When the wall came down they found some suckers in America to finally buy the pieces of junk. They have been digging them out of long forgotten storage ever since.
@@clintford6716 definitely not an attractive piece and the ammo is not cool looking either so ya a dud for looks and quality feel. I prefer my Colt New Police and SW M&P .38 who cares about the cylinder gap but anyway I digress... all the best..
The .30 Tokarev Star Pistol replaced Nagant revolvers in Red Army in 1930s. And that pistol round has a velocity to penetrate Kevlar jackets and is banned in US. Nagant round was no joke. Obviously it was not for wild west.
That grip extension is on the Belgian made examples. The Nagant revolvers are underrated in the US but Red Army veterans seem to hold them in great respect .
Just because a culture does something don't mean its right lmao
@@temper.temperits one of the only revolvers that can be suppressed
That's it, I'm switching to my Nagant for my EDC. 😀
-Jen
This video was a ton of fun to make and the little Nagant definitely surprised me!
Spared no expense.
GOOD video..
A lot more stopping power than you think... It would drop someone.
Yep, the milspec ammo is pretty hot. You are right the target ammo is about .32S&W territory. However, 32S&W isn't a pellet pistol either. I think some handloads with .32 wadcutters could be mighty tasty.
I actually did test 32 S&W ammunition in my Iver Johnson video and it punched through quite a bit of this stuff.
It was designed in the tsar eara...
I should have bought one of those 10 or 12 years ago When you could find them for about $70.
I just got one today 1926 in like new shape w/original holster for 500$ :/ I shouldn’t have but it was in beautiful shape
@@MommaRed1862 That's awesome. I wish I had one. I almost bought one back in about 2006, but I chose to get a makarov instead.
Lang Makarov’s definitely have a more powerful round tho and can be concealed easily too. Good carry gun :D don’t lament too bad you made a good choice. I think Nagant is a good plinker but no stopping power like a .45 acp would do
Glad you used the proper ammo as so much commercial ammo is substantially loaded down. I wonder how it would do with those 98grn lead cylinder bullets for reloading. My guess is, that if loaded to mil spec pressure, they would be devastating. They're rather soft lead with an absolutely blunt face, so you should get nice expansion.
The m1895 was my first gun, that I'd bought. Luckily, I had the foresight to buy few tins of the ammo back then. The new stuff does suck, and seems to deactivate the primers, if stored in the gun for defense use. I still have it and it's a great accurate shooter. If you put a small hex nut in by the mainspring, it makes the DA pull a lot better.
Do you have access to a guide on how to do that? Planning on getting one of these and would love a lighter pull
Carrying this defensively would be the worst idea possible ever.
Owner of an airsoft replica here, while the hex nut mod is not doable in it as far as I can tell, I found a guide for the same mod using a 357 bullet or similarly sized object by searching "nagant m1895 mods" on google
That wound channel is actually pretty good damn
wouldn't have thought it would travel that far ,and i love where you have went with the 22 mg and 380
Thanks man. You might like my latest video. It has all 25 ACP rounds available vs ballistic gel.
That loading similar to a black powder loaded 32-20. The gel track showed the bullet most likely did tumble. Russians wear heavy clothing and it was intended to at least penetrate such to kill a man.
When people say the bullet bounces off clothing - its true IF you're using the usually available PPU Nagant ammo. I guess its loaded for target practice - no other use for that. The gentlemen in the video used surplus rounds and the results are much better, relatively of course.
I guess, the gun served its intended purpose very well back in its days... it was around for decades, even after officially retiring
The old surplus rounds have alot more umph then the new PPU stuff.
S.G.Ammo has the surplus ammo in spam cans for sale now.
I hear the round is a lot like a .32 H&R magnum round.
looks like a thin .38 wadcutter.
Great job. I appreciate that you provided a rebuttal to the forum surmising and guessing with sound, empirical evidence. Good job.
The grip 1:34 question is simple. They had small versio of the gun and this made parts exchangeable
Using my calculator the muzzle energy comes to about 230+ ft lbs of energy using the high of 999 fps. That's standard velocity 38 special, 32 H&R Magnum energy. Definitely not an insubstantial amount of power.
My dad joined the Soviet Army in January 1953, as a military doctor. His first side arm was Nagant Revolver. He said it was very "good" pistol - simple, accurate and not very demanding.
Mmmmmm that revolver was made before Soviet Russia
@Jeremy Honeycutt It was actually designed and made before soviet Russia on into soviet Russia up until the 50s and even a little after that as it was actually prestigious in soviet russia to own a nagant intial production being in liege Belgium in 1895 and domestic production beginning in 1898 in tula arms plant it was designed in 1886
Same with the Mosin.
I know, he says "freakin commies" but it was adopted by the Imperial Russian Army almost 25 years before the revolution. The only thing commie about it was that they had a ton of them available and factories and tools to continue making them after the revolution. As for the "stupid grip piece," at tiny bit of metal like that per unit can add up a lot when materials are scarce during wartime and you need to manufacture as many guns as possible. After you've built a few hundred thousand or million of those while trimming little pieces of steel like that here and there, you'll save many tons of expensive material, as well as reducing weight that costs fuel to move around. Production efficiency that capitalists can surely appreciate.
Gruntier than I thought it might be, perhaps testament to the gas seal design. Shitty but dangerous!
I keep thinking about getting one of these, but where I live, the ammo is hard to get. Would actually make a really good little squirrel, rabbit or grouse getter if you fire single action.
They can fire other, easier to find calibers as well.
Yeah, these will chamber 32 s&w longs man. Which is pretty cheap. But the days of finding the guns at $180 are gone. They've dried up to all $300 or more.
but not as well. The cases will budge and accuracy will suffer as the round is not the same diameter, but smaller.
$180?, I paid $79 for mine :-)
PCShogun When did you pay 79 if I may ask? Because Alvin is spot on, nowadays you really cant find these for under 300 bucks.
That's an 1895 nangant revolver, unique,the magic numbers for handguns is 950 fps to 1,100 less than 7 yards/ meters a stomach shot is required, they don't teach that anymore
You sound like you have a Trans-Atlantic accent. Thanks for posting this info. I was curious to see how these would perform.
Do you know if they ever loaded hollow points for these? Its a small light bullet but at the speeds of the surplus ammo a hollow point would compensate that in performance imo... I kick myself for not getting one when they were 100 bucks. Not only are they expensive now, I also just cant find them anymore.
Don't let yourself trick yourself into making yourself nervous for you man just remember that everybody is here watching this came here cuz they felt like taking time out of their day to watch you they already gave you the thumbs up by showing up If later on they feel like they didn't make the best use of their time and their lives they're probably not going to actually complain to the people that wasted all the time in their lives they might complain to people that made stuff like videos they watched but they watch those videos because they decided they wanted to see that person and hear what they had to say So that person did their job they sold them.... I wish there was more like this out there thanks a heap
I have a giant spam can full of 7.62x38r 70's surplus. I feel like i need the cylinders sanded down though. I can't eject the casings at all with the extractor.
Ballistically the original black powder loads were very close to the black powder loaded 32-20 in a revolver. The 32-20 was a popular combat round at one time. The nagant revolver was used against people wearing winter clothing and also against horses. People used to fight from horse back at one time and horses got shot. The only thing bad about that design is the horrible double action.
This pistol was designed for smokeless powder.
@@professorpewpuew designed for smokeless but would be great for black due to the gas seal keeping the fouling out of the action. Wish I had gotten one or two when they were affordable.
So would heavy wool coat had a higher density than cotton? Also, in your opinion, how is the accuracy of this revolver... say 15-20 meters?
A little bit of a late reply, but I find this pistol to be pretty accurate. I could reliably hit a man sized target at 100 yards while holding it in one hand. The surplus loads have barely any upward recoil.
Every time I use this pistol in PUBG, it reminds me two things:
1) The Colt from Supernatural.
2) Alita vs Zapan.
Enjoyed your video and your chrono & gel testing 👍
Interesting gel test.
Kinda something I wanted to know for a while.
can you use modern ammo in this revolver like .32 long or some other .32 ammo made for revolvers?
perroblanco49 any .32 will work, magnums I would avoid though, cheap surplus by the spam can is cheap though on classic firearms
Did pretty good
I'm currently re-clambering my nagant revolver to 30 mauser. of course they will be modest reloads, no factory stuff. too hot. anyhow reason being is 1. csnt find replacement original cylinder, and 2. my original cylinder was machined so rough I cannot extract empties, and they. are bulges out.
30 Mauser is probably too hot. I am not familiar with how much metal you will have left to work with once the reaming is done, especially the bottleneck of the case.
You should make a video on it when completed! Im interested in workable ammo alternatives to these guns for obvious reasons lol.
Denim is made of cotton, so all uniforms and and warm vests ( vatnik) were made of cotton in USSR. But and army coat was made of wool.
Awesome video guys!
I shot this at a rubber dummy target and it stopped it. I could see the round poking out the the back, barely.
Cool video thanks!
Great Review,
Mark 3 .. Smelly?
...I THOUGHT that looked a lot like Murphy's shootin' range. :)
I conceal carried one for several months until I got a different revolver. Luckily I never had to use it. The civilian rounds are much weaker than the surplus but I still wouldn’t want to get shot with it.
My old gun never got to shoot it because of my stupid ass brother
Man I hate to ask why?
@@chocolatemilk2076 His brother shoved the gun up his arse.
also I parkerized mine too. its a non refurbed Izzy, 1940
It probably looks a bit better than the refurb blue on mine. I like it. but some are refurbished well, and some are refurbished just to cover up defects or just plain being worn out.
well done sir
Don't you have one of these?
actually no
Impressive!
“Stupid commies.” Fyi the Nagant revolver was named after the BELGIAN engineer who designed it.
And made in Russian Empire
@@stalker4474 But it wasn't a construction issue, it was a design flaw. Making that a moot point.
good stuff guys !
Nice!
Hotter than a .38 special. I would like one because I like that you can put a can on it.
fiocchi and shit, ive heard, is loaded to certain EU regulations in terms of pressures. hence why it's so dramatically underpowered. idk if it's totally true, i load 98gr wads with unique to about 300ftlb (~1200fps). i know some ppl have drilled tokarev cylinders which hold up okay. crazy lil gun
Imagine if some insane person cuts the rim off and chambers an AK in this caliber.
don't think you were close enough to the gel.... smh
Great.
Are you in a parking lot?
Put a can on it just because, that's the only revolver you can do that with.
Hi
I agree that its not as anemic as people say but the 1895 nagant was not ahead of its time lol.
Great collection 😂 Many many prisoners got that gun in the back of the head believe me it works ask the German officers in World War II
The use of blocking detachments is widely exaggerated in the West.
Nasty wound
Nah I'm not impressed when you consider a few things.for one you shot point blank rather then 7 yards. But that was a fmj. To say it's on par with service rounds isn't a accurate. It can't expand and penetrate like a modern .380 and 9mm or .40. and a 9mm fmj would have gone clean through both blocks and kept going strong a ways.
Bounce off clothing... 😂 ok...👍
Muzzle velocity should NO LESS 300m/sec! 🤣
That minimum requirement for Russian army!
Try True load
surplus loads go +1300fps (400m/sec)
U have target load to make paper holes
@Roger Boyd soviet manual books
I laughed out loud at the “in a lot of ways it was ahead of its time “ considering that the U.S. had a better pistol in the colt single action army a decade before the Nagant even came out.
It was better in every way. Harder hitting, easier to shoot, easier to load, better balance, better trigger, better quality and less prone to jamb from dirt dust and debris.
The nagant pistol was behind the times the day it came off the assembly line.
Double vs single action gas seal is a great innovation especially for close quarters like in a tank or in a crowd... one more shot = 17% more faster firepower smaller also so not a nicely made but totally practical and rugged for military use. Ahead not behind and the Russians used what worked never mind marketing ploys like all US manufacturers..so stop laughing Mr. Cowboy... the Red Army is moving on without you..
Daniel LeClare The idea was innovative but the Nagant was a failed experiment. It stayed in the Russian inventory because no one else wanted it and neither did they.
When the wall came down they found some suckers in America to finally buy the pieces of junk.
They have been digging them out of long forgotten storage ever since.
@@clintford6716 definitely not an attractive piece and the ammo is not cool looking either so ya a dud for looks and quality feel. I prefer my Colt New Police and SW M&P .38 who cares about the cylinder gap but anyway I digress... all the best..
The .30 Tokarev Star Pistol replaced Nagant revolvers in Red Army in 1930s. And that pistol round has a velocity to penetrate Kevlar jackets and is banned in US. Nagant round was no joke. Obviously it was not for wild west.
@@danielleclare2938 you are right. 30 Tokarev Star Pistol that replaced it is still hell of a gun. Nagant was no joke either. Not for cow boys.
'commies' ?????? it's a BELGIAN design..
Belgian can’t be commies? :)