🇧🇷 How Dangerous is Fortaleza Brazil?
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- Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2022
- How Dangerous is Fortaleza Brazil?
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Fortaleza is generally considered a not-so-safe city for tourists and has one of the highest crime rates in Brazil. Fortaleza is a major city on Brazil 's northeast coast, and the capital of Ceará state. It is one of the largest cities in Brazil.
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I'm Brazilian and she is was 100% right, people think that Brazil is more dangerous that actually really are. We don't have school shooting like in US, and another stuffs more common in south american countries. Fortaleza CE, Natal-RN, João Pessoa PB they are not that dangerous. Rio de Janeiro is more dangerous that this 3 combined, but Brazil is continental very huge, is not all places that you have a high chance to get kill.
I hope you are right, but why does Fortaleza, Natal, and Joao Pessoa have such a high murder rate? Even compared to Rio it seems higher. Is the murder rate high in these cities but the petty thievery lower?
@@ej1692 favelas. Crime like murder in Brazil is super isolated
@@ej1692 gangs members, On the other hand, in Rio de Janeiro it is very common to see people who are not involved in crime die
What about sao paulo 😊
Fortaleza seems interesting. She is definitely right with the street smarts, I haven't felt threatened too much in sao paulo. I'm in Rio now and it's the same over here. You have a true skill for finding the best people to interview here in brazil, she has lots of knowledge on Fortaleza. Keep up the good work and stay blessed 🙏
Thanks for sharing!
It really depends where you going, it’s very hard to foreigners go to dangerous places.
Sao Paulo is not is not that dangerous in comparison with Rio.
Is rio bad to visit right now?
@@jasmineestavan7303 Rio is never bad to visit ...
Rio can be in flames the police and the government gonna make sure the tourist areas are safe.
Just don’t go out of the tourist route too much without a local.
I know people from US think that non tourist areas are Barra or the West Side.
I’m talking about the Baixada, no tourist goes there 😂
@@DizzyMakavelli haha i really want to experience the beauty of Brazil , I’m going solo so I think I’ll have to stay in the touristy parts ! Thank you 😊
It's a sad situation when jobs like being a waiter are not given to people of color in Brazil because they want to uphold a standard. Even the presidential cabinet in Brazil is mostly fair skinned members. It gives you an idea that while the racism was not as violent in Brazil as it is in America, it continues to keep a socio-economic gap between those who have whiter and darker skin colors.
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Yes, colorism is very prevalent in Fortaleza. I have been told many times in my life not to bother applying for certain jobs because "they're beneath" be or because I'm "supposed to be in a high paying job" just because I have whiter skin.
I'm not even 100% white (I'm part Brazilian Indigenous as well,) but because of the way I look people automatically treat me well. It is horrible how people with darker skin or non-white features are treated.
If you ever want a look into an archaic class and race system on par with the caste system in India, visit Northeastern Brazil.
One of the best interviews I have watched on RUclips.
Philly Dom always shoot videos with amazing people man. Cool. How do you manage to connect with so many dope people? Props to you man. I loved this woman. Philly Dom will soon get his street cred In fortaleza.
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i agree
Thanks Dom for the knowledge and sharing experiences
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Salute to you Philly this is awesome content
t loving the content learning so much from someone living there priceless
Feeling the content keep it coming Philly 💯
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@@PhillyDom Good Vibes in AZ nice weather hoodie weather my type of vibe
Thanks for your enriching comments about your place Fortaleza.
I visited the city around 15 years ago and thought the place was really beautiful, sunny, very hot and windy. Really nice beaches and lots of stuff to do. However seeing your points of views enlightens better the concept of how is it to leave in northeast. Feels like it's a good place to visit. However yet the matter of a dangerous place maybe still lingers and could be depends where what time with who you're with. Just as adds up, the salaries for waiters in northeast should be around R$1.500,00 a month with all benefits.
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. So they get paid around $300?
Acho que o Brasileiro é meio ingrato! Moramos em um país espetacular, rico , cada dia mais desenvolvido... Muita beleza natural, muito lugar interessante para conhecer e ainda tem gente que gasta muito dinheiro viajando para fora!! Nunca fui assaltado aqui em Fortaleza, nem minha família nem ninguém que eu conheça o Ceará tem o quarto melhor nível educacional do País e o governo pretende investir ainda mais 😂🎉
im from the suburbs of Fortaleza, or as you may say from the 'hoods', and im impressed with her, she is right about everything, specially with the street inteligence subject. Great video.
I hope you liked my city :D
TOMAZ - hey my friend !
I lived in Recife for many years and I remember when that drug gang guy got transferred from Porto Alegre to a prison in Fortaleza in the late 2000's and the crime increased, it was very dangerous in Fortaleza.
I met a retired BR ARMY guy in Recife 2018 who told me NATAL had become very dangerous too, with car jackings, robberies, murders etc, so he left
What is going on up there TODAY ?
Have the police been able to get rid of these drug gangs and is life back to normal now ?
OR is the same, still dangerous on the streets ?
@@InBrzIt's just like that woman said. The drug gangs are still working in Fortaleza. But the crime, especially murders, are highly related to drugs and gangs "solving" problems about it, if you know what I mean.
Greetings from Finland sis. Your interview was very productive and meaningful 😇
thanks
This one is very good and can't wait to see more.
Tomorrow another video will drop
Yes. It’s all perspective. She is offering her opinion based on her experiences and that should not be dismissed.
I agree
Wow.... Very interesting point and how inteligent this beautiful lady is. New subscriter here from Rio de Janeiro!!
How Dangerous is Fortaleza Brazil?
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vonetta@thenativeenglishcompany.com
Fortaleza is generally considered a not-so-safe city for tourists and has one of the highest crime rates in Brazil. Fortaleza is a major city on Brazil 's northeast coast, and the capital of Ceará state. It is one of the largest cities in Brazil.
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I've been in Fortaleza Brazil. 6 week nightmare.
I’m from Fortaleza Brazil but now I’m living in Philly - PA USA 🇺🇸
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How is everything there? And what made u move
Vonetta provided a wealth of valuable information from a black perspective. I have a better understanding of Brazilian culture. When I watch RUclips videos, I gage the people I see in the background. I watch the interactions with people like Philly and I can tell if I should or should not visit a city. I may have to pass on this city. Great video and excellent interview!!!!
Dont think upper class have no clue What's going in fortaleza environment Like saying they wearng horse binders This didnt just happen in fortaleza Been going on for years and years
I enjoy fortaleza and the people that there
Hey dom 👋🏾 with everything going on today in Brazil would you say it’s safe to visit still
Yes come visit
@@PhillyDom even Rio ? I’m thinking about coming out tomorrow haha
Loveing always. Brazil. Love
Imagine living in a world where someone thinks they are entitled to my things that I spent part of my life working for! With all due respect to this sister she is putting her American perspective of races and classes into a completely different situation than the violence that happens in the USA. Just for a tiny itty bitty of context an iPhone in Brazil is around R$ 15.000 to R$20.000 , that is between $3.000 to $4.000 in the USA. No you are not entitled to my property! Also understand that A lot of white folks are under or just above that poverty line in a country like Brazil. Being poor is never an excuse to commit crime. Unless we shed this idea that being a POC and poor as the reason for our problems, we will never be free of our past shackles.
Well said
Question. How are you going to use your iPhone if you are dead or paralyzed from the waist down?
I took 3 bullets (.40 caliber) to the upper body (chest, arm, abdomen) from the buisness end a Milwaukee police officer's pistol. I was lucky. I only ended up with some mild permanent nerve damage, a number of whole and partially removed organs. People that have never been shot usually dismiss the prospect of ending up in wheelchair for life or paralyzed from the neck down for life. And to add some context to my views on the price tags of budget, midrange, and flagship smartphones (all new iPhones are flagship). I can't afford an iPhone and have routinley bough budget to midrange adroids. That is to say I haven't been able to affoard one in the USA. So, if one has $3,000 to drop down on an iPhone in Brazil my working guess is that odds are they have the money to buy another one as a replacement. My medical bills--which I never paid and the hospital never took me to court for--was roughly $500,000. A half million. Based on objective mathematics which costs less? (With that said... I get your desire to hold on to your goods, and not relinquish them to 1 or more predatory hoodlums, but a man that can walk and run is rich to man l
permanently confined to a wheelchair.)
@@brewcity2317 This...
@@brewcity2317 when you are robbed by the same guy 3 times there comes a point where people say enough is enough. Nobody wants to get shot, but not everyone is wired the same and respond to fight or flight the same way. Just for context but Brazil has free healthcare. Again American eyes for a Brazilian problem. In Brazil most people buy things trough installments just like they would a house or a car and that goes for everything, because things are expensive. Being poor is no excuse for you to be entitled to my property plain and simple, no if’s no but’s. You can not penalize people for having things, I have to spend time working for said “thing/property”. For you a phone is just a phone, but for a self employed person for example can mean having food at his table or not.
@@brewcity2317 by the way, I’ve seen plenty of cases in Brazil where a person still gets shot even after following the robber’s instructions, plenty!
Social structure base on color part of society in Brazil Branca para casar That the mindset of in Brazil
Rio. Brazil is very. Beautiful I love it a lot. Nice. Video nice
Thank you very much!
Compare to USA
As an American, I feel safer in Rio de Janeiro that I would in some major cities in the US
I agree the crime is different than in the States
In general, all people naturally self-segregate if they're allowed to choose. I learned that in my freshman year of college. People want to be with their families or those who represent their extended families. For example, the Asian students hung out in groups, the black students hung out in groups, etc., and were not open to those they considered outsiders. My group of friends was an exception in that we had members from three different races, but outside of that, for example, if I walked past a black student who didn't know me and I smiled and said hi, most of them looked right past me based on my race. If you look at different species of animals in nature and also different races of people, they naturally want to self-segregate. Integration is forced on people by governments.
In Brazil there's a lot of organized crime that creates sophisticated gangs we call FACCOES, these faccoes are ruthless when it comes to violence.The two biggest of these faccoes are PCC(Primeiro comando da capital) and CV(Comando Vermelho)out of Sao Paulo and Rio, but spreaded to the entire country and Fortaleza have them as well as some other smaller faccoes.
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PCC and CV graduated along time ago to trafficking international. They are no longer faccoes. One is a cartel the other is narco guerrilla
which towns don't have Faccoes lol
I think you didn't say that criminals really don't like robbery in the neighbourhoods. Their thing is only about drugs. That's also a different thing to places like Mexico I think.
Yeah.. but how likely is it you will get mugged for your phone? Thats the difference.
There difference like she saying on homicide rate
I have lived in South Carolina and there blacks( a lot of them) say the word street as "skreet" just like Vonetta did, interesting, like in skreet intelligence oppose to street intelligence, maybe is because Alabama and SC are so close to each other, just sayin...
The word "mulatto" comes from "mule"(female donkey) as blacks were seen in the slavery days...
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there is no safe source about this, only social media rumors. some people say it came from arabic.
Interesting. I really didn't expect her to say it's tame to her, and that people aren't just getting popped for mean mugging, or slugging strangers on streets.
V keep it real
Stealing phones is the MAIN crime that you hear about, and folks who give them up tend to just get another one. They even have phone insurance here for this type of crime.
In the mind of the upper class, carrying an expensive phone is more important than gaining an understanding of WHY such petty crime occurs, how one can reduce the chances of it occurring, and how police cannot be everywhere all the time to keep poor people from stealing phones. The MAJORITY of people who are robbed are not being deleted because of them. As I point out in the vid, refusing to give up the phone after a robber has demanded it is typically how the situation becomes exponentially more dangerous. And to many, it is just a coincidence or a personal failing on the part of the robber that the vast majority of the poor who commit the crimes are also black. Having no money and no ACCESS to money because of the classism that shuts out a massive portion of the population is not seen as a root cause of the issue.
They also do not want to know that in the US, its catalytic converters on cars that are the hot item of the day instead of phones, that kids are having active shewter drills, that a folks are walking into random places with assault weapons and taking out anywhere from 2- 60 people, that half their workplace can be taken out if one person is upset, or that if someone attacks a government property, they will make sure there are still innocent people inside. They DEFINITELY don't want to hear that these types of crime are common, unpredictable, and occur anywhere in the country. They do get mad at me in real life too, when I dont share the idea that every place is overrun with violence and chaos. Just know that when I walk out of the house, I am emotionally prepared to give up the phone/purse/ etc., and replace it later that day.
@@FortalezaInEnglish Unfortunately they rob phones not only to sell and keep the money, they rob to send to jail too.
Sometimes to exchange for dope in the dope houses.
I don’t agree with the right wing of Brazil at all, but some people say those kids have no choice.
Brazil laws make easy to be criminal when you’re a minor.
They don’t care if you’re carrying an IPhone or an old Samsung, you can be shot because of a cell phone.
This is messed up.
@@DizzyMakavelli You are right. However, always ask WHY?...
Why is it that GLOBALLY it is the black population that is poor and desperate? Are they just inherently dysfunctional, or is there another reason?
We already know the solution to these types of crimes. Poor communities must be flooded with resources like decent shelter, food security, quality education AND pipelines to good jobs, and access to leisure activities and spaces. It is true globally that poverty is heavily associated with street crime. When people have food, shelter, decent work, places to decopmpress, psych counselling, and REAL opportunity, exponentially fewer people lose their lives over phones and shoes.
When societies do not address well known and documented root causes of this type of criminality, the symptoms remain.
If you are in Brazil, ask the upperclass people what they think about the bolsa familia food program (like EBT cards in USA), how they feel about domestic workers having real rights as employees, affirmative action at the free universities, and government spending on public leisure spaces in poor communities...
@@FortalezaInEnglish Nah, don't get me wrong.
I agree with you, Brazilian government messed us really bad, the way they treat us is a crime itself.
But also crime is romanticized, lil dudes go to the wrong path and most of the times there's nothing to do with survive.
Still, if they would Robbin Wood instead of Robbin the Hood.
Dudes are robbing poor people, imagine you battling your way to buy something that cost 4 to 5 times more than should cost to get robbed and eventually killed.
That's why a lot of crazy people elected that mosnter Bolsonaro.
People are tired of being robbed, killed, raped by young dudes, while they can't even do time in jail.
The war has been so long we don't even know who is right or wrong anymore, criminals doing government job, Police forces acting worst than criminals.
It's very complex.
Fortaleza people are lucky that they did not reached Rio's level of violence.
Because we just gave up. We're doomed.
Never ever seen beer with chocolate!. I do not agree with the message this lady sends about violence and racism. I would recommend you brother having the same discussion with other locals from different social classes. You may need to learn portugues first. Brasil has been always a country of extremes and violence among beauty and others is one. No local is going to tell you otherwise. Classism and racism do exist, please you can fight against too showing all sides. See you brother!
I am brazilian and yes I do drink coffee after a round of beers, it aliviates the drunkness in you...
L I will ask other people what they think 🤔 about this topic as well ok.........