I am a Brazilian woman, born and raised in Fortaleza, living in the U.S. for almost 22 years, and I can't believe how accurate Vonetta explained race and class relations in my hometown and in Brazil. Great interview!
Yes, and folks the systemic racism in Brazil is far worse than racism in USA. It is behind the scenes in every aspect of life. Brazilians are very friendly but this divide exists and may not be so evident to the typical tourist.
@@TheAtomC It's a love/hate relationship. I have lived in different parts of the country and loved most of it, but the excessive materialism/consumerism always bothers me. I am about to move from California to the East Coast (Baltimore). I have a feeling I will like that part of the country best. So, in general, I have had a good time here. I'm not sure I want to retire in the US, though. I'm not a fan of the health care system and don't know if I want to deal with it as an elderly person.
As a Black American who has been living in Brazil going on 11 years, here are 2 very important things about racism in Brazil that never gets talked about when we talk about solutions and who are the culprits of racism. There is a HUGE over promotion of interracial relationships or marriage towards Black Brazilians in the culture, society and on their TV networks like Globo. The irony of all this, is that most Whites and Pardos in Brazil don't even truly desire to pair up with and procreate with Blacks or build any financial stability. This keeps Black Brazilian men ( more so) and women chasing the romantic validation of Whites and Pardos which they will never get for the most part and which results in Black Brazilians robing each other of opportunities, thus resulting in them being even more mired in poverty. Black Brazilians, especially when they do get resources must focus on the Black family unit and invest in Black children to break the cycle of their poverty, but when they usually do become successful, they marry Whites and Pardos and have Pardo children who don't even identify with Black issues which leads to my second point...the face of racism isn't even largely White in Brazil, it's actually the mixed race, brown, Pardos who can be the most anti-Black oftentimes. The Pardos even move through Brazilian society like a separate race all together and will ether pair up with other Pardos or someone who is White, but very rarely anyone who is Black. This also threatens the existence of Blacks because this behavior only serves to Whiten the country and perpetuate the White race (or close to it) in Brazil.
Lol, black brazilian date with black brazilian, pardo date with pardo, and whites are the least race who racemix in brazil. That's the harsh truth, but most people stick with their own kind
@@flowershower6857 True, I don't see an issue with it, I'm with a Black women. People gravitate to people like themselves. I'm not saying they "should" date Blacks, I'm just trying to break this illusion that most folks outside the country have of Brazil being this place where everyone is mixing and it's some colorblind country, which isn't true.
@@skatebordstephen that's right, i guess people like someone similar to them, most ppl think that brazilians mixed have white and black mom and dad, but the reality is that the miscigenetion is old, and they have mixed mom and dad, and even mixed family like mixed grandparents
@@skatebordstephen ive seen some white americans asking that, because they thought that brazilian would date them, asking if brazilian women would find him attractive because hes white redhead..i said that even brazilian white women usually prefer white brazilian men, and the mixed ones prefer a mixed brazilian men, bit we would be open to date a mixed hispanic guy
These are the things that make me appreciate being an African that was born and raised in Africa even more because even if you contribute a lot towards the growth of these countries outside of our continent; they will never give you the respect and appreciation you truly deserve. Africa really is our sanctuary...we just need to build it up and root out the corruption and cancerous leaders.✊🏾✌🏾 Love from South Africa.
My wife visited El Salvador with a university group, including many Black American women. It was a very different situation. El Salvador excluded Black people for many decades. The Black students were mocked by small children. It wasn’t about class at all. It was all about color. According to my wife, it was traumatic for many of her colleagues. Travel, but choose your destinations wisely.
In Brazil when you Black or Pardo and come from a poor background. You’re constantly being looked sometimes by the security sometimes by people who have money, they have the “What you guys are doing here” look. We don’t like to go to those places because you feel judged by the time you put your foot on the spot. The police loves to mistake poor people with criminals. It’s a passion they have. Also you need to dress very nice to go to places like Mall. Until this day I don’t go out for a small walk without a sneaker or shoe and I don’t use “Bermuda” too. White people with money can go to places wearing sandals or flip flops. They don’t even get that look.
In my younger days when I as studying English in Brazil I had a teacher with fair skin, not really anglo white, that overtly told us that she rather call us "morenos" because calling us blacks was rather offensive, very commom, not only in Brazil but in other countries in S.A, blacks to be called "morenos" like if the word black is too shameful.
Calling somebody black back in the day could be a problem since a lot of people used it with bad intentions. People started to use “Escurinho, moreninho etc... Their problems was over when the term Afro descendente became popular.
well if you studied colônial history on brasil slavers used preto(black) as a slur while nego(the n word) wasn't used later those slaves started to refer to themselves as Negro to remove the stigma and now shit american faculty elitists are trying to remove the term negro and forcing people to use the slur balck again
@@DizzyMakavelli They used a more raw word such as 'monkey', when someone wanted to offend a black person they went(still do) straight up to the word "monkey".
This interview really hits the spot that we're not allowed to mention when in Brazil. I'm of Arab descent, and I get looked at the way blacks, I imagine, used to be looked at right after slavery supposedly ended here in Brazil. The whitening policy is still deeply embedded here in Brazil, so shameful.
Her assumption about places we werent allowed is really true, at least in where im from. I live in a small city in Sao paulo state with mostly italian immigrants and my mom and aunts tell me lots of stories of when they were kids, about 50-60 years ago. The city had two municipal public clubs. One where they would go to dance and party and the other was for the rich white people, where they could not go. Even the main city square was segregated with two sides. The feeling she describes is palpable to this day, and from my experience, not generalizing, but talking with most rich people here seems the same as talking to an alien, they experience a whole different country and seem really blind to all the shit that goes on, dont think they do it on purpose. And i think too that the classism and the racism walk together, but poor white people get the same feeling when in an "upclass" area. People really dress up just to go to the mall and talk to doctors and lawers as if they are royalty.
I have lived and worked in Asia and Europe, and I've traveled extensively -- she is correct, Black Americans are revered around the world. Don't let America fool you. Fellow Black Americans, get out there and travel!
That's because Americans are seen as rich. Racism isn't really racism in a lot of countries, except in the US... in most other countries it's classism, but you think it's racism because the darker population is usually poorer. But if you're black and you're financially ok you don't get that vibe from nobody like you don't belong. And on another note... the reputation of black americans is getting smeared because a lot of them travel ouutside the US with bad attitudes towards the working locals... and then when they get the bad treatment in return ofcourse they then pull the race card. lol
I'm a very successful "Black American". When I travel around the world. The people who are the most rude, mean-spirited and disrespectful to me are other black people. I've experienced black people (especially women) that don't believe they need to be respectful to me at all, even if she's my waitress. It seems to me they have a problem taking orders from another black person. It's a weird mixture of jealousy and hostility they have towards me.
As pessoas ainda nao estao abertas para falar sobre racismo sem acusar quem es mais ou menos racista. Ouvir, refletir as perspectivas e vivencias de outras pessoas sobre temas nao muito desejados, ajuda a repensar o modo de como estamos vivendo, tratando pessoas e como podemos melhorar...
Hello Philly,Thanks for the video! I am a Brazilian man living in the US for over 30 years (NYC) and I just love how Vonetta talked about the racism and the classism in my country, I am originally from Belo Horizonte but moved to Rio during my teenage years, I am considered white in Brazil, but I am from a mixed race, so I have what we called the three races a bit of African, Native Brazilian and Portuguese with Italian and also Spanish races, a bit of a cocktail lol and did not ever felt racism ( but I understand it very well, so I think )but did feel a lot of classism… I am not rich nor is my family…I hope one day we can get over this, my husband is a retired professor here and we talk about this all the time , specially because of what we see in the news, is heartbreaking. We are going to live in Brazil next year probably in Rio We would love to meet you guys for a chopp or a caipirinha … Thanks for all the videos you post they are very interesting I enjoy watching them because they just not always but most of the time is very reaffirming about what we think… But is a fan country , happy people ! Good luck to you all and I hope you guys enjoy living there… It takes some tweaking but … Be well !
They probably call you "morena" because some people think it's rude to call someone black, but morena/moreno is only brunnet. Someone with dark hair, usually with olive skin, meaning they tan very well, example: Italians, Portugueses...
Because the know you are bringing the money from a rich country. But if you were black people from a poor country they would show you there true colors
@@Alleyesonme96-e6x Not quite, black brazilans in my days were fascinated with black americans regardless of social status.I remember one my first english teachers was a black american fella, that man rode buses with me,was just trying to bring some bread home, at the school he was the only foreigner teaching and he was put on a pedestal not for being rich but for being an american and black.We emulated a lot of the black america community culture.
you know biggest promotor of racism on Brazil are black faculty people they keep importing north American ideas like racial segregation and many others that create racism instead of promotion of peace and respect
@@yokai1235 Are you telling me that BLACK people are promoting Racism in Brazil????? Black people promoting ideas that create racism in a place like Brazil...? Pls explain yourself sir...
@@wilsondassumpcao2089 not talking about black Brazilians but white ones who are racist to black people and pretend to love Americans because of there money but hate them as well deep down there hearts
My parents both were born in the 1920's, father in 1920 and mother 1925.Since slavery was only "abolished" in 1888 there is a great possibility that their parents, my grandparents, were once slaves themselves.Slavery is still a fresh past in Brazil and many blacks still carry the load of inferiority on their backs.I am black brazilian far from being a "moreno" and yet been called moreno a thousand times growing up in my country,like it was a cultural thing to do.
This is something that should be known before going to Brazil..this is a problem thought Latin America, South America. Even Police are insane there, and the Afro folks in Brazil have been speaking about it..wonder if she been To Colombia, Dominican Republic
8:11 What she says about “things depend on connexions” is sooo true. This is one of the factors that makes harder for poor people to get opportunities in life. Even if people get a chance do carry on with their studies, it will not be easy to get a job…
To me there is no confusion. Color is the first target of hatred across the globe. PERIOD. If a person of color has advantages, then they get less hatred. Degrees of hate. Great conversation.
I'm Gen. X. My Black-American grandparents came out of Jim Crow era Mississippi, as basically poor sharecroppers. My black grandfather went from plowing a rural field with a *mule* to driving a forklift (while allowed to drink beer) in beer brewery in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. So, data was kept in the USA were blacks from the South moved to in the North during the Great Migration. In Milwaukee most came from these states in this order: Mississippi; Tennessee; and Arkansas. I fact, blacks used to hold an annual Tennessee Ball in Milwaukee I'm told. Why do I bring this up. Neither most Americans nor most Brazilians understand the economic history of their nations. Originally there were only a handful of countries on Earth that had industrialized. We know from the data that industrialization resulted in an exponential economic growth. Circa late 1700s the ratio of poverty in Mexico and the USA were virtually identical. In fact some cities in Mexico, like Mexico City, were wealthier than cities in the USA. You can juxtapose the stone churches of 1st rate architectural design and materials to the plain wooden churches of Anglo America built 100 years after the Spanish Mexican churches. But industrialization allowed economic growth at a speed of say... going from horseback to driving a corvette. The USA just economically took off and left Latin America (African continent, Asia) behind. Latin America like most countries of Earth stagnated in being a mostly agrarian economy. Go back to my black grandfather working in the agrarian economy of Mississippi plowing a field as a sharecropper. Most sharecroppers were essentially near-subsistance farmers. Lets skip over the labor wars in the North (by blooshed Milwaukee workers won the 8 hour work day for the entire country). Prior to WW2 much of (not all) of the South was juxtapose to the North as night from day. The South had blacks living in shotgun shacks with no running water, no electricity, and outhouses as bathrooms. Children running around on dirt roads barefoot. Life was not much different for them than was in the rural Northeast of Brazil that President Lula came up in. Albeit, due to post Reconstruction Era HBCU's the South did develop an educated patrician class. MLK and Condolezza Rice came out of that class. But for uneducated black women in both the U.S. South and North... many labored as domestic servants UP UNTIL the 1970s. Viola Davis plays one of those women in the movie "Doubt" (clips available on RUclips). Without going much longer into this: existing WW2 as the ONLY unscathed industrial country, and Brettonwood Agreement later petro-dollar circa 1971, the USA had so much greater wealth and development to any nation on Earth let alone Brazil, that de facto OPPORTUNITIES opened up for Black-Americans. Bare in mind liberal and conservative Americans replaced Black-American women as domestic workers with women arriving from Mexico today. And any good Democrats knows he is too good to cut his own lawn when he can pay a Mexican immigrant to do it. Entertainment (includes TV jobs, music, sports, comedy) remains the primary way Black-Americans become rich. In neither Brazil nor USA do blacks own auto companies, companies making Earth moving machinery, or even Big Tech like Facebook. If the U.S. petro-dollar ever collapsed most Black-Americans would fall into Brazilian like poverty.
Brilliant comment. People are constantly searching out "our history" whatever their definition of "our" is. The most important history to learn is as you call it "economic history". It give a true understanding of how the world works and can even make you some money.
@@marcuscole1994 which is fine, then there will be nothing to worry about, but on the slim chance that the USA economy remains strong for a good while, you will be in good shape.
Most Brazilians (and also Latinos/Iberians) are of mixed race and descendants of the Brazilian South Amercan natives with Portuguese and then when they arrived the Africans began to mix with them also after a while, being the northeast region that has the most the mixture of the three races. Many of the main cities and states of Brazil were found by them as SP, with a foundation usually of a school, church or monastery and marriage between South American natives with the Portuguese Tibiriçá (born on an unknown date and place - São Paulo dos Campos de Piratininga, December 25, 1562) was an important Tupiniquim indigenous leader since the beginning of the Portuguese colonization of Brazil. He was an ally of the Portuguese. He stood out in the events related to the foundation of the current city of São Paulo, in 1554 . Chief of the Guaianase Indian tribe, he was the brother of the Caiubi, Piquerobi and Araraí chiefs. Converted to Catholicism and baptized by Father Leonardo Nunes, with the collaboration of his brother José de Anchieta, he adopted the name of Martim Afonso Tibiriçá, in honor of the founder of the village of São Vicente, of whom he was a dedicated friend. He was the head of a large part of the indigenous nation established in the fields of Piratininga, headquartered in the village of Inhapuambuçu. His daughter M´bicy, also known as Bartira, married João Ramalho. Tibiriçá collaborated in the foundation of the Village of Piratininga, on 19/8/1553, and with the Jesuit College, on 25/1/1554, establishing himself in the place where the Monastery of São Bento is today. He effectively participated in the defense of the village, which, on 09/07/1562, was attacked by the Tupis, Guaianás and Carijós Indians, led by his nephew Jagoanharo, he was the son of Araraí, who, shortly before, as an emissary of the tamoios, spoke to reconsider his position in favor of the Portuguese and allied himself with his indigenous brothers. Tibiriçá, in the confessional, told Anchieta the fact, and he took the information to the Portuguese chiefs. In a letter written on 04/16/1563, Brother José de Anchieta expressed himself as follows: “He was buried in our church with great honor, accompanying him to all Portuguese Christians with the wax of his brotherhood. The entire Captaincy was left with a great feeling of his death for the lack they feel, because that is what sustained all the others, knowing thank you very much for the work he did to defend the land, more than all, I believe that we owe him those of the company and so he decided to take him into account not only as a benefactor, but also as a founder and conservative of the Casa de Piratininga and our lives. He made a will and passed away with great signs of piety and faith, recommending to his wife and children that they always honor the true religion they embraced.” His remains rest today in the crypt of the Metropolitan Cathedral of São Paulo, in Praça da Sé. In his honor, the state highway SP-031, connecting Ribeirão Pires to Suzano, was called Índio Tibiriçá, which had the baptismal name of Martim Afonso. BARTIRA Daughter of the cacique Tibiriçá. M´bicy (Tree Flôr), also known as Bartira or Potira. He married João Ramalho, presumably in 1515, with whom he lived for more than forty years. His name was changed to Izabel Dias, after being baptized in the Catholic religion by the Jesuits, on the plateau of Piratininga. They had nine children, and from this union descend numerous of the most traditional families of São Paulo, etc. In fact, only about 8% are black and the rest a mixture and most of the time natives of South America and Europeans and later natives mix whites and when the Africans arrived, the director in Bahia also mixes with them. Catarina Álvares Paraguaçu was born in Bahia, it is presumed, in 1503. Indigenous Tupinambá, wife of the Portuguese Diogo Álvares Correia, the “Caramuru” and the first woman to establish a family, in terms of Western Christian civilization, in Brazil. According to a baptismal certificate, carried out on July 30, 1528, in France, her real name was “Guaibimpará”, according to the record of Friar Santa Rita Durão in his poem Caramuru. In this sense, it played a fundamental role in the integration of the peoples who formed the Brazilian people, constituting the mainstay and origin of the family in the country. Dona Catarina Paraguassú, wife of Diogo Álvares (the Caramuru), is considered a Tupinambá princess by her descendants, in the same way that Dona Maria do Espírito Santo Arcoverde, wife of Jerônimo de Albuquerque (the Adam Pernambuco), is considered a Tabajara princess by descendants and chroniclers. It is a genealogical memory that confirms and reaffirms the ethnic identity of Brazilians as descendants of Amerindians. By the way we had many blacks but aalso millions of native and even me have ancestors Karaja and Tupi And in my case I am even more native of Brazilian South America because my family 1 side came from Karajá and Tupi (Tibiriçá one of the founders of São Paulo l) also descendents of bandeirantes who also founded my state that is Goiás (which means indiviuque is name of native origin of the tribe “ guaiás (which means individied equal, similar to its own ethnicity and race) a Tupi name - Guarani there were several tribes that spoke this language and therefore a vast vocabulary, e.g. name of things, states, cities, etc. Sorry to say to you but we are not a anglophone here and Afrca, please stop to pretend that y’all know to know us and our people.
We in America should strive for a pan Blackness instead of a pan africanism, every black man, woman and child in the Western hemisphere ancestors came here on the same employment plan. Culturally we have more in common with Brazilians, Caribbeas, Belize, than we do with Africa at this point in time. Once we bridge the gap with each other in the Western hemisphere, after that moment then we can bridge the gap between us and the motherland, Africa. We need to take the baby step first before we take the Great leap
Great video. I was born in Brazil but raised in the USA. As an African American making over six figures annually when I travel Brazil to visit family, I get treated as royalty. Money does whiten!!
Please don’t say that money Whitens. Money gives you privileges in Brazil. I have never desired to be White but I damn sure enjoy the privileges that they get! 😄
Money, greed is what we have to get away from. That is what causes all of the problems of getting together as one. Together we stand, Divided we fall. Believe it , it is true.
Our Black counsciousness movement always been here...but just less broadcasted...we've been proud 🇧🇷❤️🇧🇷 Don't get it twisted!!! In the early 1600 The biggest "Quilombo" was here in Brasil "Dos Palmares" with Zumbi it lasted a century...!!!
@@QuatMan Because we have other social issues we aren't rich n wealthy as the US is...Brasileiros of any ancestry can struggle here...unlike the US our society is way way way way way more mixed means different people from different ethnic backgrounds do mingle...you can see it in our families...the way we look!!! Over here its not a CLEAR CUT BLACKS vs WHITES as it is in the US!!! The context is different...até muito diferente!!!
@@cariocabassa I remember when Nayara Justino was stripped of the right to be the "Globeleza girl" because she was too dark. Why do you suppose that happened? In M Jackson's "They dont care about us" video he did in in Rio and Bahia, the majority of the RIO favela dwellers were unambiguously dark skinned people, rather than a rainbow ranging from white to dark. How did that happen (in Rio de Janeiro, not Bahia) How is it that Joaquim Barbosa has been the ONLY black Supreme Court Justice (and he was placed there by Lula, rather than gaining access like the white judges, and he is already gone)? At the airports, why are all the nannies going to Disney with wealthy families ALWAYS dark skinned ladies? If 95% of the poor population is ALSO unambiguously dark skinned, why do you suppose that is the case? Is it REALLY that different, or are you just able to walk around without being UNAMBIGUOUSLY dark skinned?
@@QuatMan I remember Colin Kapernick...Brett Favre using welfare money of the Missippi residents to keep her daughter happy... I mean every countries have their stories when it comes to racism... Whats ya point?
The new minister of human rights, Silvio Almeida, who is a black man, very bright and wise, can change the lives of black people over time. I really hope it doesn't change with other governments.
Yes black Americans (descendants of USA chattel slavery) are placed on a high priority!! Globally our music/aesthetic/inventions aka our culture is everywhere
What a brilliant beautiful sista'...........I haven't seen much new content on her channel! I may visit Fortaleza when I get back to Brazil next month!
acho que como alguém de fora que vive no Brasil, não sei quantos anos faz, Vonetta explicou muito bem como funciona a realidade de pessoas pretas no Brasil e a estrutura de classes que faz a engrenagem racista girar no país, algo que perdura faz muito tempo. Ótima entrevista!!
I can definitely attest to how true the statement Vonetta made about people from the hood being reluctant to go to certain places simply because it's too expensive or you feel as though you don't belong there and that those who "belong there" are always watching you. I'm South African and have lived my entire life in Soweto (Southern Western Township) and even though I grew up in a post-apartheid (segregation) period unlike my parents; there are just some places (predominantly the suburbs) where I don't go not because of being physically restricted like my predecessors but a mental restriction. It's always crazy and sad to see the similarities in the kind of mental and physical trauma colonization left behind in different parts of the world.✊🏾
Wow this is mind blowing to still hear something like this is still going on today. Coming from an American woman like myself. It’s very saddening that people are still like this. 🙏
Wow!! I loved her explanation! I believe that some parts of the world the Racism is STRONGER than Classism and I would include the US/UK/Japan in this list. but sometimes I tend to believe that in general classism is stronger than racism... and there is no better example than this "american privilege" that you mentioned.... even cleary been a black person... cuz if it was only "pure racism", people would treat you badly regardless your place of origin, but once you are from the US and this means "money" for many people: you are welcome..... So if the African continent , for some reason at this point of human history, would be the place with the highest amount of the richest people on the world, maybe the things would work the other way around....
I’m living in USA for 7 years straight. And I am brown or black. Mother white, father black. And blacks in USA are never welcome towards me. The white I don’t even have to say, racism is u.s is just blunt. Now as again a Brazilian male” brown or black” Brazil I never really have to think about being black. I only was kinda introduced to my “blackness” in Utah, in a university. I never felt more weird just for my color. So don’t come talking bad about Brazil, you entitled to your option, but you just can’t compare how racism in u.s is like cultural walls that hold blacks with blacks, whites with whites, and Latinos with Latinos. In Brazil you can’t barely tell for sure where someone might be from because they are all mixed. And if we do have white millionaires in Brazil. Let them be. Now, again you just can’t compare both like that.
I just came back from Belo Horizonte Brazil is definitely a racist country the dirty looks I got at nice restaurants and hotels told me everything I need to know
She defenitely talked about some truths but your American way of seeing race in everything can overreact to a lot of things. In my opinion, as a black brazilian man, I can say she's right about most of the things mainly when it comes to the way we treat black americans. Once people know you're american usually they won't see you as a black person anymore they will see you as an American and you're gonna have a totally diferent treatment, ask to an African or Haitian brother/sister who lives here and you'll know that they have a totally different treatment. But most of the times we, black brazilians, get too much in our heads and antecipate the suffering for something that not even happened yet or might never happen, I can tell you this because I was like this for most of my life and lost a lot of opportunities because I was too worried about a racism that most of the times never happened. This is a very complex situation here and unfortunetely many black Brazilians are just like that.
How Black Are you? Are you Joaquim Barbosa black, or Lula "black"? What KIND of black are you? Neymar "Im npt black", or Nayara "too black to be the Globaleza girl" Justino BLACK?
I do not advise people to go to Benfica. I had to go there because of the university. But the place is not safe at all. A lot of robberies, and even shootings may happen in bars. A friend of mine was left between life and death due to a shooting at a place called "Bar da Loura" which fortunately I have never been to.
She is really speaking for Black Brazilians. Now when I go to America and speak about the poor Black hood people on youtube there I get called a tether. It's hilarious
@@bwanahaguziki307 ima guy my dude but u are acting like it makes her happy too see afro brazilians in the state they are in, one thing about Black Americans we love black people from all over the world no matter where there from we are very accepting towards others but its never replicated back too us atleast when it comes too other races of people it doesn't but even some black immigrants that come too America looks down on Black Americans when that happens we be so confused because we as a collective never nobody wrong.
@@Angel05433 If you feel like other black people look down on you too bad that's your own personal insecurity issues you pass off onto others. But some Black Americans have already displayed their contempt and xenophobia for other black people all over the internet so you can keep that we are all loving and accepting B.S...we know the contempt you have for black people, internally and internationally. If you are a dude cool...so I'll address you as goodnight to you Sir.
We must remember that this is most of the African slaves ended up. The Portuguese mentality is definitely reflected in their colonies. It's the same in Portugal, although, except African Americans don't see it because they are in denial. I lived in Portugal, and I have never experienced such open racism. I never saw any black people in high positions. Brasil is pretty much the same.
Great video, the only thing I don't agree is that thing "if you rich, I'm not going to call you negro", I honestly don't think we have this culture, I'm not saying she is lying, but I do think she might have misinterpreted some conversation.
If she's a private English teacher, she's probably teaching some REALLY rich kids... what she described about these crazily rich people in the US and Brazil regarding having nannys is so true!! But keep in mind, she's describing her reality in Fortaleza. It is not the same all over the country, each place has different characteristics ;) As a parda (ypu Americans would consider me black) I have a very different experience in São Paulo, where these segreations are not like in the northeast. I'm from Fortaleza. I have been to the US and I can say racism in the US is really strong. It starts at the airport, is crazy :( If you ard black and latina, like me... man, than you will know what discrimination is... In Brazil it really goes hand in hand with your economical condition. By the way, we had our first black president in the 20s (Nilo Peçanha) ... rich guy, obviously. While the US still had segregation policies... So that's one example that shows how different it is.
@@Anonimous279 Eu falei que nao tem racismo por acaso? O povo não para nem para ler o comentário direito e já sai xingando. Só pode ser um machistinha.
As a Black American guy, I would not consider Nilo Peçanha to be Black, he was obviously Pardo and you are using him as a way to underhandedly, unfavorably compare Brazil to the USA as if Brazil were somehow ahead of the USA in terms of race relations, which is very misleading. In 1920 we did have segregation, yet African Americans had Black Wall Street, we had our own Black baseball league, we were still accomplishing way more things than Black Brazilians ever have in the history of Brazil despite us being hunted like animals by groups like the Klu Klux Klan in the USA. What have Black Brazilians done in terms of any historical accomplishments that have advanced them as a race in Brazil?
@@skatebordstephenEu concordo com você. Aqui no Brasil o negro tem preconceito com a própria raça, conheço casais negros cuja a mulher foi duramente criticada pela família por casar com um homem negro mais escuro do que ela e que os filhos seriam muito escuros...
It is three of them, Dominica republicans, India-no hope for either and Brazil, I still believe there are good People there. I never forget reading about the tribal area that is very beautiful. We here in the U S have no African tribal names, unfortunate. The Caribbeans have American Island tribes and have their DNA.
Yes darling. We rule from behind. Just saying. All social advantages enjoyed by the population at large, so much of it has been inspired by the black struggle for social Justice. Our American culture is inspired by us. Fashion, definitely. So much more . Even concepts of beauty. Every aspect of Americas life, we have greatly influence il. We give America its rhythm and its color.
You know, when the Portuguese abolished slavery, they brought in Europeans and gave them free land, while black people had to look for a place to live. This is why you see slums everywhere; the only option they had was the hill. The Portuguese had a plan to lighten the skin of slaves so that the future generation would have lighter skin. I imagine rape was legal back then. You cannot compare Portugal with England. In my opinion, the English are more mentally advanced. This is because politics is capitalist. They gave Black Americans the opportunity to show their capabilities and then be able to copy or steal Black ideas. To this day, they recognize Black excellence. The Portuguese have not advanced to this day; politics is slavery; white people know everything. This is why some Black people continue to think that lightening their skin is a sign of acceptance.
WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS, BLACK IS A CONDITION ( but she said Black is, Black is some other stuff ) . That other stuff is, low status ! Black had nothing to do with skin complexion.
Y'all don't forget that The GREATEST PLAYER EVER OF THE BIGGEST SPORT WORLDWIDE(FOOTBALL)was Edson Arantes do Nascimento aka Pelé (🙏🏼🇧🇷❤️🇧🇷😥 Descanse em paz O Rei).. He took this sport to higher heights!!! He was Brasileiro Negro/Preto of African descent...
Im just saying that because some people tend to forget the huge influence that we(Brasileiros of African descent have) also have worldwide. If you wanna go deeper O Pelé wasn't the first African descent Brasileiro on the big stage... He got inspired by the likes of Leonidâs Da Silva "O Diamente Negro", O Zizinho, O Didi, O Garrincha...who were there prior to him...🙏🏼
@@cariocabassa sim no meu mundo e no mundo daqueles q acreditam NUM Jogador COMPLETO TANTO NO PONTO DE VISTA PROFICIONAL, MORAL, ACADEMICA, A REPRESENTACAO DE UM VERDADEIRO SER HUMANO COM PRINCIPIOS DE DEUS, PATRIA, E FAMILIA, UM EXEMPLO TOTAL PARA UM MUNDO VERDADEIRAMENTE HUMANO, NINGUEM SE COMPARA COM MESSI ! EXTREMAMNTE INTELIGENTE, HUMILDE, MAIS TALENTOSO DE TODOS OS TEMPOS, HOMEN DE FAMILIA, UM VERDADERO ORGULHO PARA O MUNDO E PARA A HUMANIDADE.
@@latino4life196 Cara O Messi não é tudo isso...ele é um ser humano também...o que tá dizendo mesmo...? Além disso O Messi jamais era...mais completo que Pelé cara...Nunca...só no teu mundo... Tudo isso nem é o assunto...então cai fora!!!
I'm Black Brazilian from Salvador! I'm my opinion Brazil is much more classist than racist! Since most blacks are poor... it is easy to automatically relate black with poverty but there are lots of black people in Brazil who got money too. Just saying!
A maioria dos pobres brasileiros sao negros exatamente pelo racismo que impede que essas pessoas tenham acesso a serviços básicos, que na constituição diz ser para "todos".
Well explained... As a Brazilian I absolutely agree that in Brazil is more about classism then racism. If you are a favelado, a person from the favela, you will be discriminated regardless of your color. If you are black and have money, walk well dressed and etc, you're good..... In Rio things are slightly different than where you are... Cariocas are waaaaay more friendly, laid back and open minded.
As an American, it still sounds like racism or colorism trumps classism. If you are black and wealthy, you still have to “walk well” and “dress well”. Why? So you are not mistaken for a poor black person? That means your status is always at risk. Do rich white Brazilians have the option to dress casually? Do white favelados get treated better if they put on nice clothes and “walk well”?
classism is realin brazil they like African Americans because your educated wealthy and well traveled compared to black brazilians and so your treated better
I want to be clear with my question because I hate trolls. If African Americans are held to a high regard in Brazil, why are (they) we not there? We have a voice that might change the Brazilian Blacks lives. It sounds like we could do a lot there. And I know what you are going to say, then why don't I go there and help, but I am older now and wish I did and I am just learning about this struggle from Philly's post. I wonder what is the opinion of young black people that choose other destinations when it sounds like here we can lend some help. Please this is just a question for good conversation, not political, so don't be mean. I thought this was a good and informative sit down of a world I know nothing about. I ask cause I care. Thx.
Well the main reason why is that 99% of African Americans don’t know any Portuguese. There’s a huge language barrier. And to effectuate the type of change on the ground in Brazil 🇧🇷 that you’re talking about would most definitely require full assimilation into Brazilian society as an African American (which Brazil is not the easiest to immigrate to and get legal permanent residency) and pretty much FLUENT in Portuguese, which would literally take YEARS, especially as an adult. Some African Americans definitely know Spanish, but that’s not Portuguese, nor is it good enough to get by & assimilate in Brazilian society to do the type of systemic changes needed with local Black Brazilians,
@@camdenforrest Excellent reply. I didn't even think about the language barriers one would face. I also believe reading back my post that we are not the great black hope in every situation, my comment may be construed out of a level of ignorance and for that I am apologetic.
As a Black American who speaks fluent Portuguese, has a Black Brazilian wife and daughter, and has lived here for 11 years, I just see too many problems with your idea. 1.) African Americans don't even have enough unity in our own country of origin to solve what we perceive as being our problems, in a country that has had more resources and systems that actually work efficiently, much less do so in a country like Brazil where it's tough to get basic things done, due to bureaucracy, corruption and other cultural issues. 2.) African Americans who come to Brazil are mostly men who are only interested in chasing women and drinking capirinhas on the beach. They are too distracted by parties and the pursuit of women or flaunting (what seems to be) a lavish lifestyle on social media. The priorities are not there. There's isn't any unity or loyalty even amongst the Black expats who live here. 3.) Most Black Brazilians just simply don't have this power to the people, Black pride, mindset that African Americans historically had. Most Black Brazilians would rather not address racial issues in Brazil because they want so badly to fit in and feel accepted or validated by non-black Brazilians, and they fear conflict or the idea of being ostracized for bringing up Black issues. 4.) Not all, but I feel like some Black Brazilians don't really have much of an interest or none at all in foreign exchange with foreigners, especially if they are Black. They don't see any value in it even though African Americans do have value to offer. There's also a little hint of xenophobia. I don't think they like the idea of foreigners, especially black foreigners coming to Brazil, and prospering for some reason. 5.) There's also a little bit of an aversion towards the USA and tourists in general. They view the USA as exploitative of developing countries like Brazil. 5.) You can only help someone who is already helping themselves, and I just don't see much initiative in the favela communities, especially in Salvador, where most only care about when the next party is, barbecuing meat on the grill every weekend and earning enough money for beer and hanging out, the bear minimum. These communities are also usually very loud due to music being played on loud speakers. How can a child study in a noisy environment? There are far too many cultural issues that arrest the development of poor Blacks in Brazil that just can not be fixed by outsiders.
@iceygivenz3117 I've lived here in Brazil long enough to know that more productive use of your time here would be eating food, having drinks, sightseeing, hanging out on the beach or doing just about anything that doesn't involve politics. There's more than just a language barrier. The whole entire mindset here is different. Black Brazilians here are still going to treat you as an outsider and not take you seriously. They do not want "help" in the first place. Many of them are just fine having only enough money to drink beer and grill meat on the weekends or hangout at the beach, and their ambitions rarely go beyond that. There are a lot of behavioral patterns and cultural things going on here that would make any type of advocacy that you're suggesting virtually impossible. Not to mention that you can easily get hurt here, saying political things people don't like. Brazil is beautiful and fun, but on the dangerous side. You don't know the conditions on the ground here. If you did, you'd know what you're saying is impossible.
It's too bad that the Moors were not able to keep ruling all the way up to the 20th century !...haha...Had they been able to, you would see wealthy blacks, everywhere in Brazil...
I am not sure what your comment is but if you are saying that people with African traits aren't predominant in Brazil, I would have to disagree. It is the way that they have those people programs into dividing themselves up according to what tone of brown you are, pardos, mulatto,etc,,, and due to the whitening process that those people were driven to, v a lot of so-called white people have African characteristics in their faces,, but due to the social stigma associated with blackness in Latin america, they deny it
They literally built America and the vast majority are bred in America. The Black American ethnicity is over 400 years old. Their roots are American. They did not forget African roots, as they are not African😉
I am a Brazilian woman, born and raised in Fortaleza, living in the U.S. for almost 22 years, and I can't believe how accurate Vonetta explained race and class relations in my hometown and in Brazil. Great interview!
Do you like living here in the states?
Yes, and folks the systemic racism in Brazil is far worse than racism in USA. It is behind the scenes in every aspect of life. Brazilians are very friendly but this divide exists and may not be so evident to the typical tourist.
@@TheAtomC It's a love/hate relationship. I have lived in different parts of the country and loved most of it, but the excessive materialism/consumerism always bothers me. I am about to move from California to the East Coast (Baltimore). I have a feeling I will like that part of the country best. So, in general, I have had a good time here. I'm not sure I want to retire in the US, though. I'm not a fan of the health care system and don't know if I want to deal with it as an elderly person.
@@milkpowell1 I actually live in Maryland and 25-30 minutes South of Baltimore. Welcome to Maryland when you come.
Verdade❤
She definitely spoke the truth about classism in Brazil
T cool Vibes appreciate the feedback Family
I finished watching it and she was really insightful. She articulated the observations that I observed when I went to Brazil.
@@PhillyDom hello
She is full of it.......a classic Democrat.
Yes!
This sister gave a very interesting and eye opening interview. Loved this interview, salute to this beautiful lady.
As a Black American who has been living in Brazil going on 11 years, here are 2 very important things about racism in Brazil that never gets talked about when we talk about solutions and who are the culprits of racism. There is a HUGE over promotion of interracial relationships or marriage towards Black Brazilians in the culture, society and on their TV networks like Globo. The irony of all this, is that most Whites and Pardos in Brazil don't even truly desire to pair up with and procreate with Blacks or build any financial stability. This keeps Black Brazilian men ( more so) and women chasing the romantic validation of Whites and Pardos which they will never get for the most part and which results in Black Brazilians robing each other of opportunities, thus resulting in them being even more mired in poverty. Black Brazilians, especially when they do get resources must focus on the Black family unit and invest in Black children to break the cycle of their poverty, but when they usually do become successful, they marry Whites and Pardos and have Pardo children who don't even identify with Black issues which leads to my second point...the face of racism isn't even largely White in Brazil, it's actually the mixed race, brown, Pardos who can be the most anti-Black oftentimes. The Pardos even move through Brazilian society like a separate race all together and will ether pair up with other Pardos or someone who is White, but very rarely anyone who is Black. This also threatens the existence of Blacks because this behavior only serves to Whiten the country and perpetuate the White race (or close to it) in Brazil.
Lol, black brazilian date with black brazilian, pardo date with pardo, and whites are the least race who racemix in brazil. That's the harsh truth, but most people stick with their own kind
Lol pardos most of time 90~95% date with pardos, and why they should date blacks? they date what they like, you know, right?
@@flowershower6857 True, I don't see an issue with it, I'm with a Black women. People gravitate to people like themselves. I'm not saying they "should" date Blacks, I'm just trying to break this illusion that most folks outside the country have of Brazil being this place where everyone is mixing and it's some colorblind country, which isn't true.
@@skatebordstephen that's right, i guess people like someone similar to them, most ppl think that brazilians mixed have white and black mom and dad, but the reality is that the miscigenetion is old, and they have mixed mom and dad, and even mixed family like mixed grandparents
@@skatebordstephen ive seen some white americans asking that, because they thought that brazilian would date them, asking if brazilian women would find him attractive because hes white redhead..i said that even brazilian white women usually prefer white brazilian men, and the mixed ones prefer a mixed brazilian men, bit we would be open to date a mixed hispanic guy
These are the things that make me appreciate being an African that was born and raised in Africa even more because even if you contribute a lot towards the growth of these countries outside of our continent; they will never give you the respect and appreciation you truly deserve. Africa really is our sanctuary...we just need to build it up and root out the corruption and cancerous leaders.✊🏾✌🏾 Love from South Africa.
That was Deep 😮
Unfortunately that wont happen .Africa is cursed for participating in the trans Atlantic slave trade, and petty tribalism.Karma is a Mother /F er.
Couldn’t agree more 🇭🇹
You’re the most pan African South African I’ve heard on the internet ❤
I agree
My wife visited El Salvador with a university group, including many Black American women. It was a very different situation. El Salvador excluded Black people for many decades.
The Black students were mocked by small children. It wasn’t about class at all. It was all about color. According to my wife, it was traumatic for many of her colleagues.
Travel, but choose your destinations wisely.
WoW Deep Family
In Brazil when you Black or Pardo and come from a poor background.
You’re constantly being looked sometimes by the security sometimes by people who have money, they have the “What you guys are doing here” look.
We don’t like to go to those places because you feel judged by the time you put your foot on the spot.
The police loves to mistake poor people with criminals. It’s a passion they have.
Also you need to dress very nice to go to places like Mall.
Until this day I don’t go out for a small walk without a sneaker or shoe and I don’t use “Bermuda” too.
White people with money can go to places wearing sandals or flip flops.
They don’t even get that look.
Thanks for the breakdown Family well said
This is so true and that last statement: then folks can go anywhere and be seen as 'God' even in Africa
@@marvl6472 That’s facts.
Yea in Brasil...the Trayvon Martin case was in Brasil also...???
Don't remember...
Sounds like America..
Absolutely no way these two couldn’t produce a brilliant interview together..
A very enjoyable and informative exchange, bravo! 👏👍
In my younger days when I as studying English in Brazil I had a teacher with fair skin, not really anglo white, that overtly told us that she rather call us "morenos" because calling us blacks was rather offensive, very commom, not only in Brazil but in other countries in S.A, blacks to be called "morenos" like if the word black is too shameful.
Calling somebody black back in the day could be a problem since a lot of people used it with bad intentions.
People started to use “Escurinho, moreninho etc...
Their problems was over when the term Afro descendente became popular.
well if you studied colônial history on brasil slavers used preto(black) as a slur while nego(the n word) wasn't used later those slaves started to refer to themselves as Negro to remove the stigma and now shit american faculty elitists are trying to remove the term negro and forcing people to use the slur balck again
@@yokai1235 Brazil don’t have the N word.
@@DizzyMakavelli Correto, cansei de ser chamado de moreniinho,escurinho etc...
@@DizzyMakavelli They used a more raw word such as 'monkey', when someone wanted to offend a black person they went(still do) straight up to the word "monkey".
This interview really hits the spot that we're not allowed to mention when in Brazil. I'm of Arab descent, and I get looked at the way blacks, I imagine, used to be looked at right after slavery supposedly ended here in Brazil. The whitening policy is still deeply embedded here in Brazil, so shameful.
Why are so many male RUclipsrs dishonest about talking about how racist Rio and Brazil is?
Her assumption about places we werent allowed is really true, at least in where im from. I live in a small city in Sao paulo state with mostly italian immigrants and my mom and aunts tell me lots of stories of when they were kids, about 50-60 years ago. The city had two municipal public clubs. One where they would go to dance and party and the other was for the rich white people, where they could not go. Even the main city square was segregated with two sides. The feeling she describes is palpable to this day, and from my experience, not generalizing, but talking with most rich people here seems the same as talking to an alien, they experience a whole different country and seem really blind to all the shit that goes on, dont think they do it on purpose. And i think too that the classism and the racism walk together, but poor white people get the same feeling when in an "upclass" area. People really dress up just to go to the mall and talk to doctors and lawers as if they are royalty.
Big difference between South Brasil and Nordeste.
Doctors and Lawyers don't earn the high salaries they use to. A Truck Driver can earn more than a Doctor or Lawyer in the U.S.
Thank you once again Philly Dom for the very IMPORTANT information my man. 👍🏾
I have lived and worked in Asia and Europe, and I've traveled extensively -- she is correct, Black Americans are revered around the world. Don't let America fool you. Fellow Black Americans, get out there and travel!
That's because Americans are seen as rich. Racism isn't really racism in a lot of countries, except in the US... in most other countries it's classism, but you think it's racism because the darker population is usually poorer. But if you're black and you're financially ok you don't get that vibe from nobody like you don't belong. And on another note... the reputation of black americans is getting smeared because a lot of them travel ouutside the US with bad attitudes towards the working locals... and then when they get the bad treatment in return ofcourse they then pull the race card. lol
I'm a very successful "Black American". When I travel around the world. The people who are the most rude, mean-spirited and disrespectful to me are other black people. I've experienced black people (especially women) that don't believe they need to be respectful to me at all, even if she's my waitress. It seems to me they have a problem taking orders from another black person. It's a weird mixture of jealousy and hostility they have towards me.
Today, because many Brazilians don’t know their history and also the ameicanex propraganda, it is not only blac all Latina America was "westernized"
As pessoas ainda nao estao abertas para falar sobre racismo sem acusar quem es mais ou menos racista. Ouvir, refletir as perspectivas e vivencias de outras pessoas sobre temas nao muito desejados, ajuda a repensar o modo de como estamos vivendo, tratando pessoas e como podemos melhorar...
Brazilians get so upset when you call this out
Hello Philly,Thanks for the video! I am a Brazilian man living in the US for over 30 years (NYC) and I just love how Vonetta talked about the racism and the classism in my country, I am originally from Belo Horizonte but moved to Rio during my teenage years, I am considered white in Brazil, but I am from a mixed race, so I have what we called the three races a bit of African, Native Brazilian and Portuguese with Italian and also Spanish races, a bit of a cocktail lol and did not ever felt racism ( but I understand it very well, so I think )but did feel a lot of classism… I am not rich nor is my family…I hope one day we can get over this, my husband is a retired professor here and we talk about this all the time , specially because of what we see in the news, is heartbreaking. We are going to live in Brazil next year probably in Rio We would love to meet you guys for a chopp or a caipirinha … Thanks for all the videos you post they are very interesting I enjoy watching them because they just not always but most of the time is very reaffirming about what we think… But is a fan country , happy people ! Good luck to you all and I hope you guys enjoy living there… It takes some tweaking but … Be well !
Well obviously you wouldn’t have experienced racism if you are considered white 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I love the sisterly and brotherly respect shown in this interview. Well done!
Blacks are always at our best when discussing racial issues
They probably call you "morena" because some people think it's rude to call someone black, but morena/moreno is only brunnet. Someone with dark hair, usually with olive skin, meaning they tan very well, example: Italians, Portugueses...
Yes, it is rude to call someone Black there because that is how racism works.
They have serious classism and racism there, any Afro-Brazilian will let you know about it. As Americans, Yes we get treated special over there.
Because the know you are bringing the money from a rich country. But if you were black people from a poor country they would show you there true colors
@@Alleyesonme96-e6x Not quite, black brazilans in my days were fascinated with black americans regardless of social status.I remember one my first english teachers was a black american fella, that man rode buses with me,was just trying to bring some bread home, at the school he was the only foreigner teaching and he was put on a pedestal not for being rich but for being an american and black.We emulated a lot of the black america community culture.
you know biggest promotor of racism on Brazil are black faculty people they keep importing north American ideas like racial segregation and many others that create racism instead of promotion of peace and respect
@@yokai1235 Are you telling me that BLACK people are promoting Racism in Brazil?????
Black people promoting ideas that create racism in a place like Brazil...?
Pls explain yourself sir...
@@wilsondassumpcao2089 not talking about black Brazilians but white ones who are racist to black people and pretend to love Americans because of there money but hate them as well deep down there hearts
My parents both were born in the 1920's, father in 1920 and mother 1925.Since slavery was only "abolished" in 1888 there is a great possibility that their parents, my grandparents, were once slaves themselves.Slavery is still a fresh past in Brazil and many blacks still carry the load of inferiority on their backs.I am black brazilian far from being a "moreno" and yet been called moreno a thousand times growing up in my country,like it was a cultural thing to do.
Happy to hear directly from you guys. It’s a shame that many black Brazilians aren’t standing more in order to make change in their country!💪🏾
This is something that should be known before going to Brazil..this is a problem thought Latin America, South America. Even Police are insane there, and the Afro folks in Brazil have been speaking about it..wonder if she been To Colombia, Dominican Republic
Thanks for the Share appreciate your truth
Wrong it's been talked about in Brasil...a lot but its not as broadcasted as USA issues are...but yes many locals been talkin' about these issues...
8:11 What she says about “things depend on connexions” is sooo true. This is one of the factors that makes harder for poor people to get opportunities in life. Even if people get a chance do carry on with their studies, it will not be easy to get a job…
To me there is no confusion. Color is the first target of hatred across the globe. PERIOD. If a person of color has advantages, then they get less hatred. Degrees of hate. Great conversation.
I'm Gen. X. My Black-American grandparents came out of Jim Crow era Mississippi, as basically poor sharecroppers. My black grandfather went from plowing a rural field with a *mule* to driving a forklift (while allowed to drink beer) in beer brewery in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. So, data was kept in the USA were blacks from the South moved to in the North during the Great Migration. In Milwaukee most came from these states in this order: Mississippi; Tennessee; and Arkansas. I fact, blacks used to hold an annual Tennessee Ball in Milwaukee I'm told.
Why do I bring this up. Neither most Americans nor most Brazilians understand the economic history of their nations. Originally there were only a handful of countries on Earth that had industrialized. We know from the data that industrialization resulted in an exponential economic growth. Circa late 1700s the ratio of poverty in Mexico and the USA were virtually identical. In fact some cities in Mexico, like Mexico City, were wealthier than cities in the USA. You can juxtapose the stone churches of 1st rate architectural design and materials to the plain wooden churches of Anglo America built 100 years after the Spanish Mexican churches. But industrialization allowed economic growth at a speed of say... going from horseback to driving a corvette. The USA just economically took off and left Latin America (African continent, Asia) behind. Latin America like most countries of Earth stagnated in being a mostly agrarian economy. Go back to my black grandfather working in the agrarian economy of Mississippi plowing a field as a sharecropper. Most sharecroppers were essentially near-subsistance farmers. Lets skip over the labor wars in the North (by blooshed Milwaukee workers won the 8 hour work day for the entire country). Prior to WW2 much of (not all) of the South was juxtapose to the North as night from day. The South had blacks living in shotgun shacks with no running water, no electricity, and outhouses as bathrooms. Children running around on dirt roads barefoot. Life was not much different for them than was in the rural Northeast of Brazil that President Lula came up in. Albeit, due to post Reconstruction Era HBCU's the South did develop an educated patrician class. MLK and Condolezza Rice came out of that class. But for uneducated black women in both the U.S. South and North... many labored as domestic servants UP UNTIL the 1970s. Viola Davis plays one of those women in the movie "Doubt" (clips available on RUclips). Without going much longer into this: existing WW2 as the ONLY unscathed industrial country, and Brettonwood Agreement later petro-dollar circa 1971, the USA had so much greater wealth and development to any nation on Earth let alone Brazil, that de facto OPPORTUNITIES opened up for Black-Americans. Bare in mind liberal and conservative Americans replaced Black-American women as domestic workers with women arriving from Mexico today. And any good Democrats knows he is too good to cut his own lawn when he can pay a Mexican immigrant to do it. Entertainment (includes TV jobs, music, sports, comedy) remains the primary way Black-Americans become rich. In neither Brazil nor USA do blacks own auto companies, companies making Earth moving machinery, or even Big Tech like Facebook. If the U.S. petro-dollar ever collapsed most Black-Americans would fall into Brazilian like poverty.
Brilliant comment. People are constantly searching out "our history" whatever their definition of "our" is. The most important history to learn is as you call it "economic history". It give a true understanding of how the world works and can even make you some money.
We will fall into Brazilian like poverty
@@marcuscole1994 which is fine, then there will be nothing to worry about, but on the slim chance that the USA economy remains strong for a good while, you will be in good shape.
So true we are allowed to ascend but not own anything
That part …
Most Brazilians (and also Latinos/Iberians) are of mixed race and descendants of the Brazilian South Amercan natives with Portuguese and then when they arrived the Africans began to mix with them also after a while, being the northeast region that has the most the mixture of the three races.
Many of the main cities and states of Brazil were found by them as SP, with a foundation usually of a school, church or monastery and marriage between South American natives with the Portuguese
Tibiriçá (born on an unknown date and place - São Paulo dos Campos de Piratininga, December 25, 1562) was an important Tupiniquim indigenous leader since the beginning of the Portuguese colonization of Brazil. He was an ally of the Portuguese. He stood out in the events related to the foundation of the current city of São Paulo, in 1554
. Chief of the Guaianase Indian tribe, he was the brother of the Caiubi, Piquerobi and Araraí chiefs. Converted to Catholicism and baptized by Father Leonardo Nunes, with the collaboration of his brother José de Anchieta, he adopted the name of Martim Afonso Tibiriçá, in honor of the founder of the village of São Vicente, of whom he was a dedicated friend. He was the head of a large part of the indigenous nation established in the fields of Piratininga, headquartered in the village of Inhapuambuçu. His daughter M´bicy, also known as Bartira, married João Ramalho.
Tibiriçá collaborated in the foundation of the Village of Piratininga, on 19/8/1553, and with the Jesuit College, on 25/1/1554, establishing himself in the place where the Monastery of São Bento is today. He effectively participated in the defense of the village, which, on 09/07/1562, was attacked by the Tupis, Guaianás and Carijós Indians, led by his nephew Jagoanharo, he was the son of Araraí, who, shortly before, as an emissary of the tamoios, spoke to reconsider his position in favor of the Portuguese and allied himself with his indigenous brothers. Tibiriçá, in the confessional, told Anchieta the fact, and he took the information to the Portuguese chiefs.
In a letter written on 04/16/1563, Brother José de Anchieta expressed himself as follows: “He was buried in our church with great honor, accompanying him to all Portuguese Christians with the wax of his brotherhood. The entire Captaincy was left with a great feeling of his death for the lack they feel, because that is what sustained all the others, knowing thank you very much for the work he did to defend the land, more than all, I believe that we owe him those of the company and so he decided to take him into account not only as a benefactor, but also as a founder and conservative of the Casa de Piratininga and our lives. He made a will and passed away with great signs of piety and faith, recommending to his wife and children that they always honor the true religion they embraced.”
His remains rest today in the crypt of the Metropolitan Cathedral of São Paulo, in Praça da Sé. In his honor, the state highway SP-031, connecting Ribeirão Pires to Suzano, was called Índio Tibiriçá, which had the baptismal name of Martim Afonso.
BARTIRA
Daughter of the cacique Tibiriçá. M´bicy (Tree Flôr), also known as Bartira or Potira. He married João Ramalho, presumably in 1515, with whom he lived for more than forty years. His name was changed to Izabel Dias, after being baptized in the Catholic religion by the Jesuits, on the plateau of Piratininga. They had nine children, and from this union descend numerous of the most traditional families of São Paulo, etc.
In fact, only about 8% are black and the rest a mixture and most of the time natives of South America and Europeans and later natives mix whites and when the Africans arrived, the director in Bahia also mixes with them.
Catarina Álvares Paraguaçu was born in Bahia, it is presumed, in 1503. Indigenous Tupinambá, wife of the Portuguese Diogo Álvares Correia, the “Caramuru” and the first woman to establish a family, in terms of Western Christian civilization, in Brazil. According to a baptismal certificate, carried out on July 30, 1528, in France, her real name was “Guaibimpará”, according to the record of Friar Santa Rita Durão in his poem Caramuru. In this sense, it played a fundamental role in the integration of the peoples who formed the Brazilian people, constituting the mainstay and origin of the family in the country.
Dona Catarina Paraguassú, wife of Diogo Álvares (the Caramuru), is considered a Tupinambá princess by her descendants, in the same way that Dona Maria do Espírito Santo Arcoverde, wife of Jerônimo de Albuquerque (the Adam Pernambuco), is considered a Tabajara princess by descendants and chroniclers. It is a genealogical memory that confirms and reaffirms the ethnic identity of Brazilians as descendants of Amerindians.
By the way we had many blacks but aalso millions of native and even me have ancestors Karaja and Tupi And in my case I am even more native of Brazilian South America because my family 1 side came from Karajá and Tupi (Tibiriçá one of the founders of São Paulo l) also descendents of bandeirantes who also founded my state that is Goiás (which means indiviuque is name of native origin of the tribe “ guaiás (which means individied equal, similar to its own ethnicity and race) a Tupi name - Guarani there were several tribes that spoke this language and therefore a vast vocabulary, e.g. name of things, states, cities, etc.
Sorry to say to you but we are not a anglophone here and Afrca, please stop to pretend that y’all know to know us and our people.
Great interview , hope you show more foods and interviews with locals in the cities
We in America should strive for a pan Blackness instead of a pan africanism, every black man, woman and child in the Western hemisphere ancestors came here on the same employment plan. Culturally we have more in common with Brazilians, Caribbeas, Belize, than we do with Africa at this point in time. Once we bridge the gap with each other in the Western hemisphere, after that moment then we can bridge the gap between us and the motherland, Africa. We need to take the baby step first before we take the Great leap
Thanks for Sharing Family
I'm glad Philly Dom found somebody intelligent to talk to 😅
Yes Indeed Family 😁
Please drop a link to contact Vonetta. I’m planning to move to Fortaleza. She’s got so much helpful information.
Great video. I was born in Brazil but raised in the USA. As an African American making over six figures annually when I travel Brazil to visit family, I get treated as royalty. Money does whiten!!
Yes Indeed Family LoL it does
Please don’t say that money Whitens. Money gives you privileges in Brazil. I have never desired to be White but I damn sure enjoy the privileges that they get! 😄
@@djeanpierreIn brazil its all about money.
People would prefer anyone with money and treat them really good
Money, greed is what we have to get away from. That is what causes all of the problems of getting together as one. Together we stand, Divided we fall. Believe it , it is true.
Our Black counsciousness movement always been here...but just less broadcasted...we've been proud 🇧🇷❤️🇧🇷 Don't get it twisted!!!
In the early 1600 The biggest "Quilombo" was here in Brasil "Dos Palmares" with Zumbi it lasted a century...!!!
Appreciate the Share
Interesting that it is less broadcasted. Why do you suppose that is?
@@QuatMan Because we have other social issues we aren't rich n wealthy as the US is...Brasileiros of any ancestry can struggle here...unlike the US our society is way way way way way more mixed means different people from different ethnic backgrounds do mingle...you can see it in our families...the way we look!!! Over here its not a CLEAR CUT BLACKS vs WHITES as it is in the US!!!
The context is different...até muito diferente!!!
@@cariocabassa I remember when Nayara Justino was stripped of the right to be the "Globeleza girl" because she was too dark. Why do you suppose that happened?
In M Jackson's "They dont care about us" video he did in in Rio and Bahia, the majority of the RIO favela dwellers were unambiguously dark skinned people, rather than a rainbow ranging from white to dark. How did that happen (in Rio de Janeiro, not Bahia)
How is it that Joaquim Barbosa has been the ONLY black Supreme Court Justice (and he was placed there by Lula, rather than gaining access like the white judges, and he is already gone)?
At the airports, why are all the nannies going to Disney with wealthy families ALWAYS dark skinned ladies?
If 95% of the poor population is ALSO unambiguously dark skinned, why do you suppose that is the case?
Is it REALLY that different, or are you just able to walk around without being UNAMBIGUOUSLY dark skinned?
@@QuatMan I remember Colin Kapernick...Brett Favre using welfare money of the Missippi residents to keep her daughter happy...
I mean every countries have their stories when it comes to racism...
Whats ya point?
What an informative interview!! So glad y’all met for this! 🎉
The new minister of human rights, Silvio Almeida, who is a black man, very bright and wise, can change the lives of black people over time. I really hope it doesn't change with other governments.
Philly I must say---- DAMN GOOD INTERVIEW BRO! Excellant!💪💪💪
Yes black Americans (descendants of USA chattel slavery) are placed on a high priority!! Globally our music/aesthetic/inventions aka our culture is everywhere
What a brilliant beautiful sista'...........I haven't seen much new content on her channel! I may visit Fortaleza when I get back to Brazil next month!
Great interview, love her insight
acho que como alguém de fora que vive no Brasil, não sei quantos anos faz, Vonetta explicou muito bem como funciona a realidade de pessoas pretas no Brasil e a estrutura de classes que faz a engrenagem racista girar no país, algo que perdura faz muito tempo. Ótima entrevista!!
Perfect
Very good content, really enjoyed this!
Even the airport ppl are shocked that you can afford a ticket
Great interview. This is what I call insightful field reporting, bruh!
Appreciate the you Watching please share the video on all your social media outlets thanks Family
Hey, Philly you need to do this type of interview in the South too.
I agree Family
This was a great interview
Appreciate you watching
America has several cities that also make you feel uncomfortable as a black person.
I can definitely attest to how true the statement Vonetta made about people from the hood being reluctant to go to certain places simply because it's too expensive or you feel as though you don't belong there and that those who "belong there" are always watching you. I'm South African and have lived my entire life in Soweto (Southern Western Township) and even though I grew up in a post-apartheid (segregation) period unlike my parents; there are just some places (predominantly the suburbs) where I don't go not because of being physically restricted like my predecessors but a mental restriction. It's always crazy and sad to see the similarities in the kind of mental and physical trauma colonization left behind in different parts of the world.✊🏾
She is very informative. I wish I had her as a friend.
Wow this is mind blowing to still hear something like this is still going on today. Coming from an American woman like myself. It’s very saddening that people are still like this. 🙏
Wow!! I loved her explanation!
I believe that some parts of the world the Racism is STRONGER than Classism and I would include the US/UK/Japan in this list.
but sometimes I tend to believe that in general classism is stronger than racism... and there is no better example than this "american privilege" that you mentioned.... even cleary been a black person...
cuz if it was only "pure racism", people would treat you badly regardless your place of origin, but once you are from the US and this means "money" for many people: you are welcome..... So if the African continent , for some reason at this point of human history, would be the place with the highest amount of the richest people on the world, maybe the things would work the other way around....
Great interview 🔥
I’m living in USA for 7 years straight. And I am brown or black. Mother white, father black. And blacks in USA are never welcome towards me. The white I don’t even have to say, racism is u.s is just blunt. Now as again a Brazilian male” brown or black” Brazil I never really have to think about being black. I only was kinda introduced to my “blackness” in Utah, in a university. I never felt more weird just for my color. So don’t come talking bad about Brazil, you entitled to your option, but you just can’t compare how racism in u.s is like cultural walls that hold blacks with blacks, whites with whites, and Latinos with Latinos. In Brazil you can’t barely tell for sure where someone might be from because they are all mixed. And if we do have white millionaires in Brazil. Let them be. Now, again you just can’t compare both like that.
WoW 😲 sorry to hear that Family....
Thanks for Sharing Your story with me ........
the one drop rule doesn't apply to brazillians they've had a whole different experience wit racism over there.....
WoW Deep Family
Nothing was said about the 1 drop in this vid…
@@tiffanydegoya you just sayin stuff to be seen or noticed ain't you...!?
Its sad to think that some places are just as bad or worse as the USA when it comes to civil rights.
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I just came back from Belo Horizonte Brazil is definitely a racist country the dirty looks I got at nice restaurants and hotels told me everything I need to know
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@@PhillyDom Colombia is way better blk ppl
She defenitely talked about some truths but your American way of seeing race in everything can overreact to a lot of things.
In my opinion, as a black brazilian man, I can say she's right about most of the things mainly when it comes to the way we treat black americans. Once people know you're american usually they won't see you as a black person anymore they will see you as an American and you're gonna have a totally diferent treatment, ask to an African or Haitian brother/sister who lives here and you'll know that they have a totally different treatment.
But most of the times we, black brazilians, get too much in our heads and antecipate the suffering for something that not even happened yet or might never happen, I can tell you this because I was like this for most of my life and lost a lot of opportunities because I was too worried about a racism that most of the times never happened. This is a very complex situation here and unfortunetely many black Brazilians are just like that.
Thanks for Sharing
How Black Are you? Are you Joaquim Barbosa black, or Lula "black"? What KIND of black are you? Neymar "Im npt black", or Nayara "too black to be the Globaleza girl" Justino BLACK?
I loved this! Where is Vonetta from in the US?
Alabama
@@PhillyDom wow, nice. she has great energy. & I ended up subscribing to your channel. I love your vids
I do not advise people to go to Benfica. I had to go there because of the university. But the place is not safe at all. A lot of robberies, and even shootings may happen in bars. A friend of mine was left between life and death due to a shooting at a place called "Bar da Loura" which fortunately I have never been to.
the part about a black man inventing a bunch of stuff is legendary, same thing in Europe with big guys like Tesla, very interesting.
She is really speaking for Black Brazilians. Now when I go to America and speak about the poor Black hood people on youtube there I get called a tether. It's hilarious
LoL
Bwana Haguziki but Black Brazilians are the poorest people tho and that is due too rascim that is all she is saying why are u getting upset about it?
@@Angel05433 I'm not getting up set at all dear I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of her statements
@@bwanahaguziki307 ima guy my dude but u are acting like it makes her happy too see afro brazilians in the state they are in, one thing about Black Americans we love black people from all over the world no matter where there from we are very accepting towards others but its never replicated back too us atleast when it comes too other races of people it doesn't but even some black immigrants that come too America looks down on Black Americans when that happens we be so confused because we as a collective never nobody wrong.
@@Angel05433 If you feel like other black people look down on you too bad that's your own personal insecurity issues you pass off onto others. But some Black Americans have already displayed their contempt and xenophobia for other black people all over the internet so you can keep that we are all loving and accepting B.S...we know the contempt you have for black people, internally and internationally. If you are a dude cool...so I'll address you as goodnight to you Sir.
Outstanding Video!!!
Thanks Brazil to the World 🌎 Family
We must remember that this is most of the African slaves ended up. The Portuguese mentality is definitely reflected in their colonies. It's the same in Portugal, although, except African Americans don't see it because they are in denial.
I lived in Portugal, and I have never experienced such open racism. I never saw any black people in high positions. Brasil is pretty much the same.
What a great guest!
very informative
Great video, the only thing I don't agree is that thing "if you rich, I'm not going to call you negro", I honestly don't think we have this culture, I'm not saying she is lying, but I do think she might have misinterpreted some conversation.
Refletir,ouvir as perspectivas e vivências de outras pessoas sobre esse tipo de tema.Ainda é preconceituoso porém nem todos confessam.
Insightful.
Please share the video family on All your outlets
If she's a private English teacher, she's probably teaching some REALLY rich kids... what she described about these crazily rich people in the US and Brazil regarding having nannys is so true!! But keep in mind, she's describing her reality in Fortaleza. It is not the same all over the country, each place has different characteristics ;) As a parda (ypu Americans would consider me black) I have a very different experience in São Paulo, where these segreations are not like in the northeast. I'm from Fortaleza.
I have been to the US and I can say racism in the US is really strong. It starts at the airport, is crazy :( If you ard black and latina, like me... man, than you will know what discrimination is...
In Brazil it really goes hand in hand with your economical condition. By the way, we had our first black president in the 20s (Nilo Peçanha) ... rich guy, obviously. While the US still had segregation policies... So that's one example that shows how different it is.
@@Anonimous279 Eu falei que nao tem racismo por acaso? O povo não para nem para ler o comentário direito e já sai xingando. Só pode ser um machistinha.
Ui!
As a Black American guy, I would not consider Nilo Peçanha to be Black, he was obviously Pardo and you are using him as a way to underhandedly, unfavorably compare Brazil to the USA as if Brazil were somehow ahead of the USA in terms of race relations, which is very misleading. In 1920 we did have segregation, yet African Americans had Black Wall Street, we had our own Black baseball league, we were still accomplishing way more things than Black Brazilians ever have in the history of Brazil despite us being hunted like animals by groups like the Klu Klux Klan in the USA. What have Black Brazilians done in terms of any historical accomplishments that have advanced them as a race in Brazil?
@@skatebordstephen they’ll do anything to deny their racism
@@skatebordstephenEu concordo com você. Aqui no Brasil o negro tem preconceito com a própria raça, conheço casais negros cuja a mulher foi duramente criticada pela família por casar com um homem negro mais escuro do que ela e que os filhos seriam muito escuros...
as a his panic man in america. i know exactly what she talking about. if u dont know anyone there, u will be lonely
Because Elite, Wealthy, and Upper Class are different things in the USA while in Brazilian, they all overlap each other.
It is three of them, Dominica republicans, India-no hope for either and Brazil, I still believe there are good People there. I never forget reading about the tribal area that is very beautiful. We here in the U S have no African tribal names, unfortunate. The
Caribbeans have American Island tribes and have their DNA.
Great to know
Yes darling. We rule from behind. Just saying. All social advantages enjoyed by the population at large, so much of it has been inspired by the black struggle for social Justice. Our American culture is inspired by us. Fashion, definitely. So much more . Even concepts of beauty. Every aspect of Americas life, we have greatly influence il. We give America its rhythm and its color.
Thanks for Sharing Family 😊
Captivating intelligent discourse!!!
You know, when the Portuguese abolished slavery, they brought in Europeans and gave them free land, while black people had to look for a place to live. This is why you see slums everywhere; the only option they had was the hill.
The Portuguese had a plan to lighten the skin of slaves so that the future generation would have lighter skin. I imagine rape was legal back then.
You cannot compare Portugal with England. In my opinion, the English are more mentally advanced. This is because politics is capitalist. They gave Black Americans the opportunity to show their capabilities and then be able to copy or steal Black ideas. To this day, they recognize Black excellence.
The Portuguese have not advanced to this day; politics is slavery; white people know everything. This is why some Black people continue to think that lightening their skin is a sign of acceptance.
WoW 😮 Deep
Is this Morales in Niterói?
she dropped a lot of knowledge. very interesting to hear her perspective
She's really rich in vocabularies, Socially & Situationally Conscious . 😊
Yes Indeed Family she is for sure
WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS, BLACK IS A CONDITION ( but she said Black is, Black is some other stuff ) .
That other stuff is, low status !
Black had nothing to do with skin complexion.
Portuguese and Spaniards were very big into the slave trade.
Thanks for Sharing Family
This actually broke my heart
Nice info
Wow. Suddenly leaving the racist US to move to Fortaleza doesn’t sound as appealing as moving to Thailand, Bali or Philippines. So disappointing.
Y'all don't forget that The GREATEST PLAYER EVER OF THE BIGGEST SPORT WORLDWIDE(FOOTBALL)was Edson Arantes do Nascimento aka Pelé (🙏🏼🇧🇷❤️🇧🇷😥 Descanse em paz O Rei)..
He took this sport to higher heights!!!
He was Brasileiro Negro/Preto of African descent...
Im just saying that because some people tend to forget the huge influence that we(Brasileiros of African descent have) also have worldwide.
If you wanna go deeper O Pelé wasn't the first African descent Brasileiro on the big stage...
He got inspired by the likes of Leonidâs Da Silva "O Diamente Negro", O Zizinho, O Didi, O Garrincha...who were there prior to him...🙏🏼
The best of all Times is Messi
@@latino4life196 Só no teu mundo cara😅😅😅
O Pelé ainda é O Melhor...mermão!!!
Maradona é o melhor Argentino de todos os tempos...Maradona>>>Messi...
@@cariocabassa sim no meu mundo e no mundo daqueles q acreditam NUM Jogador COMPLETO TANTO NO PONTO DE VISTA PROFICIONAL, MORAL, ACADEMICA, A REPRESENTACAO DE UM VERDADEIRO SER HUMANO COM PRINCIPIOS DE DEUS, PATRIA, E FAMILIA, UM EXEMPLO TOTAL PARA UM MUNDO VERDADEIRAMENTE HUMANO, NINGUEM SE COMPARA COM MESSI ! EXTREMAMNTE INTELIGENTE, HUMILDE, MAIS TALENTOSO DE TODOS OS TEMPOS, HOMEN DE FAMILIA, UM VERDADERO ORGULHO PARA O MUNDO E PARA A HUMANIDADE.
@@latino4life196 Cara O Messi não é tudo isso...ele é um ser humano também...o que tá dizendo mesmo...? Além disso O Messi jamais era...mais completo que Pelé cara...Nunca...só no teu mundo...
Tudo isso nem é o assunto...então cai fora!!!
I'm Black Brazilian from Salvador! I'm my opinion Brazil is much more classist than racist! Since most blacks are poor... it is easy to automatically relate black with poverty but there are lots of black people in Brazil who got money too. Just saying!
A maioria dos pobres brasileiros sao negros exatamente pelo racismo que impede que essas pessoas tenham acesso a serviços básicos, que na constituição diz ser para "todos".
This was a great build between our people....Peace.
She's a whole vibe. Her universe is universing lol
Well explained... As a Brazilian I absolutely agree that in Brazil is more about classism then racism. If you are a favelado, a person from the favela, you will be discriminated regardless of your color. If you are black and have money, walk well dressed and etc, you're good..... In Rio things are slightly different than where you are... Cariocas are waaaaay more friendly, laid back and open minded.
As an American, it still sounds like racism or colorism trumps classism. If you are black and wealthy, you still have to “walk well” and “dress well”. Why? So you are not mistaken for a poor black person? That means your status is always at risk. Do rich white Brazilians have the option to dress casually? Do white favelados get treated better if they put on nice clothes and “walk well”?
People have the nerve to say, Racism is gone... smh
classism is realin brazil they like African Americans because your educated wealthy and well traveled compared to black brazilians and so your treated better
Well said Family
I want to be clear with my question because I hate trolls. If African Americans are held to a high regard in Brazil, why are (they) we not there? We have a voice that might change the Brazilian Blacks lives. It sounds like we could do a lot there. And I know what you are going to say, then why don't I go there and help, but I am older now and wish I did and I am just learning about this struggle from Philly's post. I wonder what is the opinion of young black people that choose other destinations when it sounds like here we can lend some help. Please this is just a question for good conversation, not political, so don't be mean. I thought this was a good and informative sit down of a world I know nothing about. I ask cause I care. Thx.
Well the main reason why is that 99% of African Americans don’t know any Portuguese. There’s a huge language barrier.
And to effectuate the type of change on the ground in Brazil 🇧🇷 that you’re talking about would most definitely require full assimilation into Brazilian society as an African American (which Brazil is not the easiest to immigrate to and get legal permanent residency) and pretty much FLUENT in Portuguese, which would literally take YEARS, especially as an adult.
Some African Americans definitely know Spanish, but that’s not Portuguese, nor is it good enough to get by & assimilate in Brazilian society to do the type of systemic changes needed with local Black Brazilians,
@@camdenforrest Excellent reply. I didn't even think about the language barriers one would face. I also believe reading back my post that we are not the great black hope in every situation, my comment may be construed out of a level of ignorance and for that I am apologetic.
As a Black American who speaks fluent Portuguese, has a Black Brazilian wife and daughter, and has lived here for 11 years, I just see too many problems with your idea. 1.) African Americans don't even have enough unity in our own country of origin to solve what we perceive as being our problems, in a country that has had more resources and systems that actually work efficiently, much less do so in a country like Brazil where it's tough to get basic things done, due to bureaucracy, corruption and other cultural issues. 2.) African Americans who come to Brazil are mostly men who are only interested in chasing women and drinking capirinhas on the beach. They are too distracted by parties and the pursuit of women or flaunting (what seems to be) a lavish lifestyle on social media. The priorities are not there. There's isn't any unity or loyalty even amongst the Black expats who live here. 3.) Most Black Brazilians just simply don't have this power to the people, Black pride, mindset that African Americans historically had. Most Black Brazilians would rather not address racial issues in Brazil because they want so badly to fit in and feel accepted or validated by non-black Brazilians, and they fear conflict or the idea of being ostracized for bringing up Black issues. 4.) Not all, but I feel like some Black Brazilians don't really have much of an interest or none at all in foreign exchange with foreigners, especially if they are Black. They don't see any value in it even though African Americans do have value to offer. There's also a little hint of xenophobia. I don't think they like the idea of foreigners, especially black foreigners coming to Brazil, and prospering for some reason. 5.) There's also a little bit of an aversion towards the USA and tourists in general. They view the USA as exploitative of developing countries like Brazil. 5.) You can only help someone who is already helping themselves, and I just don't see much initiative in the favela communities, especially in Salvador, where most only care about when the next party is, barbecuing meat on the grill every weekend and earning enough money for beer and hanging out, the bear minimum. These communities are also usually very loud due to music being played on loud speakers. How can a child study in a noisy environment? There are far too many cultural issues that arrest the development of poor Blacks in Brazil that just can not be fixed by outsiders.
@@skatebordstephen good breakdown, Stephen.
@iceygivenz3117 I've lived here in Brazil long enough to know that more productive use of your time here would be eating food, having drinks, sightseeing, hanging out on the beach or doing just about anything that doesn't involve politics. There's more than just a language barrier. The whole entire mindset here is different. Black Brazilians here are still going to treat you as an outsider and not take you seriously. They do not want "help" in the first place. Many of them are just fine having only enough money to drink beer and grill meat on the weekends or hangout at the beach, and their ambitions rarely go beyond that. There are a lot of behavioral patterns and cultural things going on here that would make any type of advocacy that you're suggesting virtually impossible. Not to mention that you can easily get hurt here, saying political things people don't like. Brazil is beautiful and fun, but on the dangerous side. You don't know the conditions on the ground here. If you did, you'd know what you're saying is impossible.
It's too bad that the Moors were not able to keep ruling all the way up to the 20th century !...haha...Had they been able to, you would see wealthy blacks, everywhere in Brazil...
I don't see wealthy blacks in Saudi Arabia
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I agree with her in many things but people with african traits are not "predominantly" in Brazil. That is a false narrative of she trying sell.
I am not sure what your comment is but if you are saying that people with African traits aren't predominant in Brazil, I would have to disagree. It is the way that they have those people programs into dividing themselves up according to what tone of brown you are, pardos, mulatto,etc,,, and due to the whitening process that those people were driven to, v a lot of so-called white people have African characteristics in their faces,, but due to the social stigma associated with blackness in Latin america, they deny it
Don't forget the GPS we invented.
O Ceará foi o primeiro estado a abolir a escravidão 😊
Verdade ❤
African Americans adopted the religion of the oppressor so could you explain how they forgot the African roots ?
They literally built America and the vast majority are bred in America. The Black American ethnicity is over 400 years old. Their roots are American. They did not forget African roots, as they are not African😉
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Brasil is 56 percent black but only 10 percent of the politicians are black
Interesting perspective
I agree Family
...many disclosures & insights: "...black Americanist is powerful "