How I Bought a Stolen motorcycle and what happened next
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In my experience, 99% of the time when a bike doesn’t have a title it’s either stolen or the person who bought it never paid the loan off. Never buy a bike without a title. Unless it’s 75 years old and The fuel lines look like pubic hairs.
So stolen, or stolen lol?
Most motocross bike don't even come with title or registration. Agree for a motorycle but not for a dirtbike.
RideOrangeKTM that’s true but your newer dirt bikes and four wheelers have some sort of title. Not all though, you’re right.
Michael Peila RIGHT! Haha
@@RideOrangeKTM In Cali they still all have a title and bill of sale somewhere. People just don't care about those vehicles as much and lose the paperwork because they don't have to register them
Is anyone not completely disappointed with the police? If you get scammed they won't help and if you want to check and be careful you get detained. What if those criminals were aggressive? They could have broken into your van took your cash and vehicle while you're sitting there like a dummy trying to do the right thing
True, wow I never thought about that
That sounded like a sting setup for the second bike seeing if you would buy stolen property do to the fact that if the guys stole it there's no way they would of met you by a cop shop much less allowed you to drive it there to get it checked out and the fact they walked by the window and it took awhile for them to fully check you out before releasing you it was definitely a chop shop sting
They probably just know the cops don't do shit about it. I had kind of a similar situation and when I talked to the cops they told me it was a civil matter and they wouldn't get involved. They really just can't be bothered about theft or bikes in general.
After two hours of being detained: "Why would I knowingly steal a bike just to drive it to you guys and have you run the VIN numbers just to confirm I stole the bike."
Cops: "Oh makes sense, you have a point."
Can't make this stuff up. 🤣🤣🤣
I swear are they thinking with their feet or what 😂
well I see its the same with cops all over the globe, they rather detain you and whatever before they use brains and go bust real robbers...too much work probably :D
@@melo5848 'With' their feet.
The police intentionally do not hire intelligent people, they hire people who are easily brainwashed, much lick the military. They don't want people who think, they want people who follow orders.
@@timothydraper3687 hey its the grammar police. Yes I left the apostrophe off just to bother you 😉
Just one more reason that if I am ever in Pennsylvania and I am in the mood to buy a bike, I am going to look you guys up. Your honesty and integrity are outstanding.
My grandpa’s 1999 R1 got stolen, then ended up ditched at a gas station THREE YEARS LATER with TWO THROWN RODS. One of which was sticking out of the engine. The piston for that cylinder was wedged sideways. It was quite a sight. I tried to pull it out, but was unsuccessful. I have a video of the carnage on my channel, WAY down the video list.
$1000 and a weekend later, the bike had a used engine in it and it was back in action.
wow, how do you trow a rod that bad? Shift from 6th to 1st?
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Probably, or never taking it to maintain or changing oil, maybe.
Could in theory run for three years without maintenance and on the same oil.
Thanks for trying to do the right thing! I had my bike stolen and would hope somone who came accross it would do the same.
I actually just had mine stolen the other day on mothers day and Im still not sure how the police came in contact with the bike but they recovered it yesterday. They do get found sometimes weather it be nice people or the scumbags get caught. Hope you find yours bro.
Had my 50 cc stolen when 16. Couldn’t afford another, even with insurance money. I was working a low paid government apprentice scheme. Absolutely gutted and had to waste a lot of time on bus’s. It’s not just someone’s tool to provide with, it’s also their pride and joy.
Thanks for the story’s saun , love hearing about these things lol I bought a stolen moped when I was 15 lol
Yo Ive been through this a couple times myself. The bike world reminds me of the wild west. People don't understand how many stolen bikes are out there. Even the best of the best slip up and make mistakes. This is what makes us stronger and better
I admire how honest you are
That was a great story, I think the best video i've seen on your RUclips channel.
viper looks sweet in the background!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it does
Bikes and Beards It’s so funny to me you own that specific vehicle, it has been my dream car ever since I was a little kid. And I don’t even know why. I just love the Dodge Viper.
@@Coffee_Gamer RIP dodge viper
@@SaltyCracker402 what happened 😯
I know this comment is 2 years old but I'm your 200th like so I feel special
dang you have such a good heart. its refreshing to see in this youtube world. Godspeed.
Loving your new viper, I couldn't stop looking at it and also couldn't stop looking at the bike in the back with the key on and the headlight slowly getting dimmer and dimmer lol
Haha I know that battery was weak
Man I’m right there with you, just recently bought my first bike, a 04 Yamaha v star Silverado edition. When I bought it the shop gave me the wrong bike so I was learning on a complete different customers bike
Wow lol!
WoW! Cops are smart! Hours after being detained, you: "Why would I steal the bike, bring it to you, and ask you to run the VIN?".... cops: "well, that makes sense"..... Cops can't think themselves out of a wet paper bag without help? ... just WoW!
Gruuvin1
Yeah the Police are dumb... Until your bike is stollen, the vin gets swapped and the Police don’t care.
the guy's doing the right thing, and for that he's getting punished by waiting for hours...This is no way to encourage good semeritins.
@@MikeMikeSmith until? Like then il think they are smart? That would make me think they are even more dumb...
Typical remark of someone who would also have the mind of a racist. Lump all peoop into one group because of one person, great mentality. Then talk all sorts of trash not realizing that you dont have the intestinal fortitude to stick your neck out in the line of fire to protect others when shtf.
But hey you cant always just continue to be a key board commando...
@@ginger_nosoul "more dumb." Yeah that's the most intelligent thing ever said by nobody.....ever.
Sounds like stressful situation. Stay safe and be cautious out there!
Love your devotion to the truth.
Hi Shaun. Its Jay from Norwich UK. Your video tested my multi -tasking to the max. I am trying to concentrate on what you are saying and the same time I am looking at the Viper in the background. Had to black the Viper out with my hand a few times to concentrate lol. Good topic. I had a Fizzy Yamaha FS1E 50cc stolen with w YB100 engine in it. It used to hit 70mph when I was 16 ;) PS Happy new year to all you guys
Haha
Thanks for the story. Always wondered what would happen.
You are a righteous dude....keep riding on!
Great advice Sean!
This is my dream job!!! Your awesome man love the videos
Loving these "sit down's"
Im surprised you don't have over a million subs, keep up the good work I check out your videos all the time. I can't stand watching Whistling Diesel he may have a lot of subs but thats the level of intelligence in this country.
Love that viper GTS, brings back memories, I went on your dealer's website to c if you r selling it, but not listed. Are you selling it?
love your content keep it going
Love this format of the story’s
Awesome I ll do more
Thanks for sharing 😎🇺🇸
Respect to you! You have this innate tendency to do the right thing. Generally found in folks with good conscience. ✌
This is why I won't buy anything without a clean title
Only dirtbikes
Glad to hear it came out well for you brotha.
Those old pictures, dude you were doing the Wolverine look. Lol, thanks for sharing. I thought about buying an old bike without a title but was leary at the possibility of it being stolen.
As long as you can confirm with police that it’s not stolen then your ok
What Garage love the videos watching from Australia
Sweet ethics brother... we send it to experts they do deep dive with tech. We get a lot of Vin swaps or fictions titles
You get the police involved way more than I would that's for sure.
Austin Starke yeah.... hit men and drive by shootings are totally the way to go
I would assume that's cause he's very professional & wants to see his Business Ventures be successful WITHOUT hangups ...,just my 2 Cent's
Problem is many cops have a one track mind and only put effort into finding a reason to arrest the person right in front of them. They deal with the dregs of society so much they start thinking of themselves as very smart.
Not sure you have a choice of getting,"the police involved." When they stop you, they are involved.
Good info!
My brother GOD BLESS YOU
Bought a few bikes and muscle cars that were salvage title, stolen and crashed running from the cops. My Camaro Z28, the dude crashed in the SAME parking lot, 3 times, and got 3 separated DUI's.....LOL. I love buying stuff with weird history.
That photo at 0:34 with 2010, short beard Sean, felt as if Charizard was showing us a picture of when he still a Charmeleon 😂
Your advice can apply to anything you purchase. It's happened to me buying expensive guitars twice. And yes almost got arrested for possession of stolen property from guitar center, fortunately I had purchase receipts from the pawnshops I got the guitars.
Damn I love your story, I just learnt from you....
Thanks glad someone did
Gotta love that Vinwiki intro
Great tip. I'll have to remember that for my next purchase
Your a good man Charlie Brown.
I get mad vinwiki vibes from this lol you earned a sub
You’ll always be detained when they don’t know what to do. And you’ll be there until someone has balls enough to make a call on it.
So many of them just don’t know the law.
I once took a bike I had owned for years and decided to put it in a custom frame. Well, now the bike has to be re registered to the new frame VIN. I knew that.
I take the completed bike in for inspection and title. As luck would have it, the experienced person who normally does it is out.
So now I have 2 people that don’t know squat trying to do it. The guy was decent, the girl was acting like it was all stolen and she was about to solve a crime. “ where are the receipts for all the parts? You have to have receipts!” I said “ look, here is the MSO for the new frame, here is the title for the original bike, I took everything off that bike and put it on this custom frame, that is where the parts all came from”. She stands there a minute, then grabs the existing title and stamps it “ salvage”. I said “ what are you doing? That title stays with the old frame!” She says “ oh no, you’re not pulling that two bikes with one title stuff”...WTF... I said “ what am I supposed to do with my frame now, I can’t sell it or use it?” She says “sure, it’ll just have to be built with a salvage title now”. ... yup, got screwed. Now I have a 1973 HD frame from a ex police bike and it’s worthless. Now? I register every bike I have and keep tags on them, yes it costs a bit of cash, but they can’t salvage what appears to be a drivable bike to them. I can show the registration instead of the title and tell them THATS the bike the parts came from. They don’t need the title as proof of origin if it’s a registration it’s gtg.
Lol @ the old school pic with the “Wolverine” beard.
Your honestly goes a long way!
Prayers are with you my friend be careful
Will do
Hey Props from Portugal, since ypu guys record in 4K could you please upload the videos in true 21:9 ...plz , thks a lot keep the good work
Love this channel
Great video! See this all the time with atvs and dirt bikes on cl
Yeah it’s super easy with those bc you don’t need a title most of the time
Didn't know you were living in northern Georgia at the time. Almost close to my neck of the woods. Huntsville/Madison, AL representing. :)
Yep I be been there, for a few bikes there too
Just tease us with the viper in the background...
You should put these story's on q story podcast or something
I had a guy try and sell me what he claimed was a 1970 BMW r75/5 for $2500. Not a bad deal at all if the bikes in good shape...but he didn't want to actually show the bike. Alarm number 1. I'm like, no site unseen if he had a title or a Bill Of Sale from the previous owner because at this point it was a 40 year old bike. Paperwork gets lost, I go a grand but not any more than that.
Couple days go by and the guy calls me, says he can meet me with the bike, we arrange a time we're both off work and he's going to meet me in a church parking lot close to my house. I've got street parking and a little spot next to the house where my wife parks so the church had a big empty parking lot cool I can walk over and if the bike isn't running half a block isn't to long to push it to the house.
I walk over, the guys late. 10 minutes goes by, 15 goes by. I call him no answer. I call his house no answer. I get a call from a number I don't know and it's dude. He's driving, he missed my call his wife dialed for him. He's 10 minutes out. Cool.
10 minutes goes by and a car pulls up and its just dude. We go through the pleasantries and everything and he goes ok so $3500. I'm looking at him and look around...no bike. I said we settled on $2500 and you didn't bring the bike. He goes well I need 3500. I'm not agreeing to that. I said if the bikes mint I'd go 3 but no more. He said fine, he's going to take me to where the bike is because he didn't trust meeting me in a parking lot because he's been robbed before.
So another alarm bell. And no wife, not with him, no bike. He's trying to get another grand out of me...just not going down hill fast.
He wants me to ride with him. I said no tell me where it is and I'll get my truck and trailer and meet you there. He says fine but just me...and I went sure. Which as soon as he gives me the adess I text my brother whose at the house hanging out and tell him we're headed out and to grab his gun. (He's just out of the army at this point and carries everywhere.) So we pull up and it's a trailer park. And not just trailers but like cheap run down campers with out vehicles pulling them. And in the back of a nicer looking one with a big dodge is this BMW. My brother and I get out and dude starts wigging out.
Just you, whose he, this is bullshit. We're trying to rob him...he's yelling. No wife, no truck bikes sitting under a tin roof held up by 4 posts and some bailing wire.
Finally get him to calm down. My brothers talking to him, they're smoking I'm looking at the bike and it's not flat 1970 r75/ its an 81 r100. I walk over the guy and tell him this isn't the bike. He starts losing his shit. I don't know what I'm talking about, get a mechanic he'll tell you what the bike is...I know what the bike is. It's stamped on the engine r100 and I know it's an 81 because I know old BMWs.
So he's yelling he calls a guy, and by this time an older guy comes out of the trailer with a shot gun. He comes over and asks if he can help us before I can open my mouth dude drops his phone and starts running. Goes to hop a fence but the fence falls over as he's pulling himself up so he's down...done. I explain what was going on with the guy who actually owns the bike. Come to find out be bought the bike from my Grandfather like 10 years earlier...and I knew it looked overly familiar when I saw it...so we both call the cops. They come out, dude is still laying next to the fence he broke. They talk to us, talk to the old man talk to the guy. We point out his car...and he's got bags of meth, a Tupperware thing filled with pot, two needles. He's got a gun in the car but just a clip on his person.
So cops come talk to us one more time and apparently he tried telling the cops that he's undercover FBI and we sold him the drugs. We tried selling him the stolen bike and he's supposed to be investigating undeground fight rings going on at the trailer park. Come to find out the trailer park is just a salvage yard the guy owns. He parts them out and the nicer ones he rents out for people to go camping with.
So dude's in the back of the police car screaming he's FBI, we're drug dealers and theifs...the cops are all going to get fired.
So they leave the guy asks me how ky Grandfather is doing. Is he still working on BMWs what ever asks for my number, gives me his number. Couple of days goes by my grandfather calls me. He said hey my old r100 is sitting in the drive way I need your to get it on the table to look it over. I drive out there. Dudes there with his trailer we're talking...bikes perfect. Guy goes how much was he trying to sell my bike for and I said I think we had settled on 3k if it ran. He originally said 25, and then he wanted 3500. Guy goes I paid 2,500 for it. And he's got a new Corbin seat on it, everything's been detailed. Carb was rebuilt. It had been repainted...he said kid you're grandfather always treated me fair, I like you and your brother I'll sell it back for 2500 plus the seat which is like 600. I said deal, paid him the 3100 bought a bike I absolutely loved when I was kid and a hell of a story to go with it.
Only thing similar I have is I bought a 2000 400 EX from a dealership mind you, had a title etc blah blah blah. It was a year old when I bought it, frame had been painted yellow (from red/black) and all white after market plastic. I got a decent deal on it, rode it for like 2 years and put in a barn at a friends house one weekend after riding because I didn't feel like loading it up that day, come back the next weekend and *Poof*! Stolen.
I call the cops, they come ask me for the title, I show em and then they "detain" me for possession of a stolen quad! I was like WTF?? Long story short, it was stolen 1 month before I bought it from a dealer who never ran any checks on it, they bought it super cheap from some dude, I came in the same day and saw it, the rest is history.
Cool vid! What's the story on that viper?
that blue Viper GTS looks so sweet
Interesting video!
I was the proud owner of a 85 Honda Shadow 750. I got it and put about 2k into it and while I was at work my bike disappeared. The cops said their is most likely no way I will ever see my bike again. That was 20+ years ago and I have lost the title and I finnaly gave up on my bike ever coming home. It is nice to know their are still good people out their who will still try and get the bikes back to their owners. You have a great day and god bless.
I'd steal your bike just because you can't tell the difference between their and there.
When buying a vehicle with no title I use a free Vin checker and also call a local bonded title company to verify they're able to get me the paperwork with no issues. Pretty simple and straight forward. It takes about 1 month to get the title from dmv in Texas I spend on average 300-600 for this process.
The risk you run dealing with "Flippers"
Yes it is
What kind of apprenticip was he talking about at the start? I'm trying to find one but all I see are technician ones
It's a percentage game, the more bikes you buy the increased risk, although in all honesty I think the percentage is pretty slim unless you seek out stolen bikes per se. I had a scooter stolen but I was actually quite happy about it as I hated the bloody thing, Gilera Runner 180, hateful piece of shite. At least I was then able to get a proper bike after that :)
I bought a bike that was a right off without knowing it. Guy I bought it from seemed like a good guy but i learned my lesson also.
And that's why i really prefer an at least semi-central authority for some things.
We have a federal office in germany which handles all registred vehicles, you can check the VIN online for crucial information like recalls or if it's stolen and a new "title" (we call them Brief/letter) for an old bike did cost me around 35€ 5 years back...
I live in Georgia and I bought a cbr and found out it was a default on a loan. Live and learn
I would buy a bike from SRKcycles just because of this guys honesty.
I had a similar thing happen to me once. I bought a dirtbike (CR250) from a guy and his kid in the Summit parking lot (Im sure you know where that is in McDonough, GA). No titles, but it's a dirtbike. I was young and stupid and didn't give a shit at the time. I did check the VIN to see that it was there and not covered or anything. Figured everything was kosher. Rode that bike for over a year until the chain broke on me one day and cracked a giant glob of JB weld off the engine case that I had not previously noticed. I felt pretty dumb when I figured out the engine case ALREADy had a huge hole in it from a chain and it had been JB welded over. So it's sitting there leaking with no chain and I notice the VIN on the engine has been defaced and is illegible. My heart sank, but I was young, didnt have the money to really do anything about it. That bike got stolen out of my shop a few months after that anyway so Im sure it's been stolen a dozen times since then because that's what happens to dirtbikes in Georgia. I learned a lot from that experience...
Man I had my motorcycle stolen last Christmas in nyc , 2009 R1 and no one saw a thing ; yeah right , this is why I want to buy a 2004 dyna from SRK when you get one in stock
Friend of mine bought an XR500 Honda that had been desert raced at some point in its life then later shipped into the UK from the states it was a real nice bike and had loads of grunt and for what he paid for it it was a bargain. He came around one day not long after buying it and we went out on it two up for the afternoon to go see his dad ... we never got there. On the way over we got pulled over by the local law and on checking the bikes registration number it came back as a stolen "Datsun 120 Y" (we just stood there looking at each other in total disbelief).
We were both arrested and taken to the station and the bike was picked up by one of their vans and transported back to the compound at said police station where it was securely locked up whilst being "investigated". We were put in seperate interview rooms and both questioned for around two hours before being locked in the cells to "decide how long it was going to be before we decided to come clean and tell the truth".
I swear to god those cops were as thick as P*g Sh*t to say they were a complete joke and totally incompetent would be the understatement of the century they couldn't find their own Ass with both hands .. nor tell the difference between an XR500 Honda and a Datsun 120 Y, IDIOTS after about seven and a half hours we were both released as it had been noticed by one of the cops that someone had carefully peeled one of the sticky decals off the alloy reg plate and re fixed it upside down so it read differently and just happened to be the same reg number as the stolen Datsun ... some outing THAT was.
Did not have to be stolen, people often fake vin and body numbers when they find a perfectly fine or easily fixable car that was unregistered and signed for scrap by insurance while their car is still legally registered but got crashed or rusty or the engine git damaged badly. The same could happen with bikes. My uncle has actually found out his Citroen he bought from an official Citroen dealer, it was used as the dealership's fleet car, had a faked body number xD
Good information
I had a bike stolen once. Two years later I got a call from a sheriff in a distant county saying they'd recovered it in a drug raid. The sheriff ended up buying it from me for his kid.
AZ allows for a bonded title, post a notice in the business newspaper and send a certified letter to last known address on registration or title. Few hundred dollars depends on value.
When I was active duty Navy I bought a bike from an officer. Transferred title to my name with no issues but when I eventually sold it to a friend, we discovered the VIN didn’t match frame/title. Can’t trust anyone! We got it worked out, but it just sucks.
Sometimes vins can be different from title due to clerical errors
Bikes and Beards this was absolutely not a clerical error. I found out later what the story was, kind of like yours. Anyway, VIN verification with the title is something I do every time now.
I almost bought a stolen bike and it was from a dealer too. Noticed the ignition was ripped out and a couple other things wrong with it including the title was missing. It was a nice blacked out Triumph Bonneville with low miles and only $3500 but I had to walk away from it. Its best to walk away when you notice shady things. Ive had to walk away from a lot of bikes! Believe it or not the best legit deals I found on bikes was buying dealer bikes sight unseen off the internet. Takes more guts to do that especially when you drop over 10 grand on a bike you never seen before but its worked out well and they delivered the bike right to my front door.
I know yall will ship bikes you sell, but do you also take trades in on sales that require shipping as well?
I can't wait to see the CB77!
Yeah me too
@@BikesandBeards
I have a 71 CB350 with about 4500 miles. My wife's first bike.
Sean, I live in Texas and trying to get out in the wind. Do you have an inventory/website that us viewers can purchase your stock from? Using this older post to try and avoid the scammers.
Good video for me... I've been a purchaser for a dealership for 6 years... always meeting people in parking lots late at night w a bunch of cash..
The first street bike I bought was a 2007 R1 (Black/Grey) Brand new off the showroom floor. I dumped a lot of money into it in aftermarket parts and shortly after moved to Houston TX. Fast forward 6 months after moving. I fly back home to MT and a couple of days later my friend and roommate is calling me to let me know that my chained up Bike was stolen out of our gated community. A few weeks later Insurance cuts me a check and I go buy another R1 that looks exactly the same. Two weeks later a Police Detective is calling me up to say they recovered my bike along with 45 other stolen bikes. Turns out a very successful guy who didn't even need the cash was paying young adults to steal bikes then parting them out. (Mine was still in one piece minus minor body damage that happened in the course of the theft) I notify my insurance company who doesn't have a local office in Houston. They asked if I would be willing to pick up the bike and hold it for them, I did so letting them know I was also moving back to MT which they were fine with seeing as they have an office 150 miles away from my home town. Pick it up take both bikes back to MT and wait...a few months pass haven't heard a word. I call my insurance company and they inform me that my rep no longer works for the company as he moved on to a higher paying job. They get me in touch with a different person and they agree to come and pick up the bike. Over a period of 3 months they keep changing the date and time that they will come pick it up then nothing. I called them 3 more times since and no one has ever gotten back to me. Its always "We will contact you later" This was back around 2008-2009. To this day the bike is still sitting in my dads shop waiting for them to come get it! lol
Another thing about buying bikes (or any vehicle/vessel) with no title; they are very likely still not paid off and it is illegal to sell or buy mortgaged property! Not only will you lose the bike and your money, you could face legal charges as well. RUN, do not walk, run from a bike with no title! If its a lost title that's another story and the owner that lost it can easily go to Tag Office with you and submit proper paperwork with no hassle; if they won't then RUN!
Always make sure to check the VIN # and buy the bike with a bill of sale if there is no title. Lots of people might lose these titles, it does not mean the bike is stolen. Also the bank sometimes can put a lien on the bike even when the bike has been paid off because the original owner never did the paperwork. And finally even with the title signed over to you, you still have to pay sales tax.
My own brother hung a stolen bike around my neck. I had to go overseas & parked my bike & car at my dad's house. Well my brother took my bike out to some party where it was stolen. Knowing that he would be in hot water he stole a bike of same make & model. Then after my discharge the first time I saw the bike I said that's not my bike. And after riding it I put it up for sale. Then a week after the sale I'm being arrested for selling a stolen bike! It was kind of odd that when my brother saw me selling the bike, he suddenly moved to Colorado several hours later on the spur of the moment. He knew what was coming down & I was fresh out of the jungle of Vietnam. He ran, but I got my man several months latter & and I know he saw God only because he lived through it.
Couple weeks ago selling my 2020, title in hand, on CycleTrader. Out of state guy, offers full asking, but gets completely sketched out when I want to meet him at bank of his choice for cashiers check straight from teller so they can also notarize (required in my state, same way sold my last bike). He insists cash only deals, not interested in walking in bank, starts texting me articles about how cashiers checks aren’t safe, told him no thx. He then gets angry, felt weirder, walked away & sold the next day. When doing deals make sure there’s a paper trail & a camera near the transaction, too good = not worth the risk
Bill of sale with the last person you bought the bike off helps too
Sucks people do such bad to good people u see it all the time man But it will make u stronger minded Gods love ❤️ amen
You ever go to bike repo auctions?
Man, I was once servicing a bike someone had just got off craigslist. We always ran the VIN to see if there are any recalls etc. This thing had a piece of sheet metal glued over the VIN plate with a phony VIN (that traced to the correct brand but wrong model and country) scribbled into it with an awl. Peeled that thing off and ran the real VIN which was still legible underneath, it was reported stolen. At that point I let my service manager know, rolled it off of my lift and washed my hands of the situation. We had to let the customer and the authorities know, never knew what the rest of the story was.
First clue. 10:00 at night at Walmart
How many people clicked this
A restamped vehicle doesn't always mean stolen, sometimes it is just coming from another country the owners didn't want to pay taxes for importation
man, that second time, the police got the guys served and they failed...
From what you have said, you were VERY lucky! You basically broke EVERY RULE of used-car/bike purchasing on BOTH...and you walked away without jail time! You NEVER buy an 'undocumented' vehicle, EVER! No title, no consideration, period! You have a title-in-hand, you CHECK VIN against frame stamps, engine stamps, etc. You buy ANY vehicle, you not only get the title, you get a WRITTEN BILL OF SALE TOO! (in most states, that Title means NOTHING, but a written bill of sale with signature INSTANTLY validates you did NOT steal it!)...when you get a Bill of Sale, they MUST sign it, and you MUST have their Driver's License number (or other State or Federal I.D. number on the BILL). You check their ID visually...no card, no sale! If you are so hard up for a purchase you violate these points, you deserve what you get! When someone keeps saying 'I bought this $10k Harley for $50 and a bag of chips...I don't sit there and think, 'wow, wish I could have gotten such a great deal'...I think 'I wonder who died so this bike could be stolen for a simple drug fix?' Think like this...and you'll quit 'looking away' when you have to cross the 'T's' and dot the 'I's' on simple legalities!
Well said.
How do you go about getting a title I bought a f4i called the local pd where the bike was located and told I had to do my own investigation to see if it was stolen so I carfaxed it, it comes clean I did a database search for stolen cars/motorcycles comes clean I buy the bike and everything have a bos and sellers info also original owners number what's the next step ?
Wa. State it took 3yrs to get a title for a Honda ct110 that I purchased without title.
I've had this happen. But there are legal workarounds if you have the original vin and the original bike with stamped vin isn't reported stolen. It's complicated but possible but it depends on the state you register it.