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Star Citizen is turning into a arcadie due to BS balancing. Just get rid of balancing and turn the ships on what they are capable of. MAKE MISSION LIKE ANNEX INVADE IN ARMA. We need Combined arms gameplay to justify bought ships and ground vehicle.
@GrumpyEye the problem is that they keep getting sponsored by the players, and we see the prices go up every time. i am happy we get Starfield soon to play that SpaceGame where it is possible to do the most things SC prommised. hope you can make a playthrough from that game.
I purchased SC because of you and your good videos. However ironically your best video on SC was this. F um. l will stick around see where you take the channel, I've stayed even though i have not touched SC for over 18 mths.
That is the most complete, yet concise, summary of what the reality of Star Citizen is from a backer's perspective; that is, if they've been around for a while, have been paying attention and can see the bigger picture. Much respect for not pulling punches, putting issues into context and calling out what may not be plainly obvious to everyone. Subbed.
Star Citizen is depressing now. I dont know whats worse, the fact that they lie their asses off and make no progress, or the fact that people still defend the rate of progress???
@@brick-2000 they are not making progress, they are professionals at looking like they are trying to make progress while talking so much crap you think they are doing something. Anyone with eyes can see that they do nothing each month.
The fact that people defend it is definitely worse. You can understand why a company would bullshit with people's money if they could get away with it. People happily going along for the ride no matter how obvious the situation gets is the confusing part.
@@Xero_Kaiser no I can tell you what's bullshit. What's bullshit would be getting the money and giving no product at all, what's bullshit is saying nothing about development, what's BULLSHIT is people hating on a game and calling it a scam when it has REFUNDS. WHATS BULLSHIT IS PEOPLE JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON AND WANTING THIS GAME TO FAIL EVEN THOUGH THAT BENIFITZ NOBODY. I'm sick and tired of people making claims and accusations about the game when they don't know a single fucking thing about game development and the people who ACTUALLY know about about game development still don't understand how difficult it is to make a game of this scale, with tech that they had to make from scratch, and a dev team that started out as 5 people.
Same. I invested im the game in September 2014. I have been done with it for a bit now. I am in the process of asking for a refund. I know they wont. But I will continue to ask them until the game actually launches in a full game state. Too many empty and broken promises. 13 years of Dev with where the game is at is rediculous. It is not a scam. But is it a con.
I was a big fan of Chris Roberts from back when "Freelancer" came out, and when I heard he was crowdfunding a new game...the game he always wanted to make: "Star Citizen", I was SUPER excited! Sounded like a dream prospect. I contributed to the initial backing but decided to hold off on diving into any of the early builds because I wanted to dive into the COMPLETED game. A decade later and I'm still waiting. Full disclosure, I've dived into a couple of their "play for free" weekends, but I haven't given them any money since my initial donation. Obviously I'm not as invested as a lot of people, but it was still something I've been looking forward to for years, and given how disappointed I am, I can't imagine what it must be for people like you. Fans who have invested a huge part of their soul's to this game, created RUclips channels, and gone to conventions all for a game that will likely never be what we wanted it to be...finished. It's so depressing, thinking of what we were promised versus where we are YEARS later. I say Sunk Cost Fallacy be damned! Get out now until they have a complete (or at least not busted) product. We should all follow your example and back up our frustrated complaints with actions. Stop giving money, and producing content for what has effectively become a money machine for the few people in charge of this mess. They're just leading us on, and unless something changes, they're just going to keep doing it. What they're doing is wrong, and someone has to say so! Mad respect for you, brother. Naysayers and detractors be damned.
Ive put alot of unanswered faith in CIG and even i have to keep it real while im being told that "im excluded after years of support" because i didnt give them 25k in funds. Their behaviour has changed and you are absolutely right about the consistent broken promises.
Don't sell yourself short, grump. You have a ton of charisma and talent. I'm not going anywhere and I bet the vast majority of subscribers feel the same. Looking forward to a new chapter and some new content. Cheers, brother!
I gave up on star citizen a while back, maybe I'll keep an eye on it from time to time but I'll definitely not play it any time soon lol 🤷 been playing other games that's more enjoyable but again that's just me, if others have a lot of fun playing star citizen welp that's their choice lol
I've been saying for years, if we want this game to ever be finished, we have to stop shilling for the production. Thank you for having the balls to do what needs to be done. Making you started something big.
Just dont spend your life savings on a game, Ive got a few hundred hours of gameplay with friends off a £40 buy in... Guess what, casinos also exploit stupidity... like a lot of things in live. "A fool and his money..."
@@hudgypudgy2960 Nah, there are plenty of law firms that accept likely-to-win cases and take charge of all the costs, and get reimbursed if you win the case.
Idk man, it's an ever growing game. Sure, it's slow as hell and most people who invested believe it's time to see more progression. I say to let it bake. The more they do accomplish, the more that gets into the game development community in general. The tech demo for Star Engine is blowing a lot of people's minds right now. I mean they are a tech company who is using their game as product of that tech. You invest in tech companies and take the risk of the project failing. But stopping support is only going to further smother this, and like it or not. The tech behind this game altogether is more than other AAA games on the market. Not to mention as technology advances, so does the rate of that advancement. This game will eventually reach it's inflection point but it's a huge goal to achieve. Starfield took millions and 10 years to make. Only difference is they did it behind closed doors. CIG aren't truthful about everything but what developer is? I've had a major issue with most AAA companies nowadays, and honestly as a backer of this game since 2016 CIG still seems like a breath of fresh air. Sorry you're burnt out on broken promises and missed deadlines. I get it. Many people are. I honestly hope your love for this game gets rekindled, though. I hate it at times too, but I can't deny the scope of it. Even with one single system, it's a huge game. But I also keep in mind even with all the bugs, it's an actively developed game, however slow, and groundbreaking advancements don't happen overnight. It takes, trial and error, and lots of money. I encourage you to watch some of citcon. Many backers, myself included, think this one was different in many ways. The presentations were great and the demos were fleshed out. Anyways, wish u the best man. Hope to see u in the verse.
I've personally enjoyed that particular breeze of fresh air you've been giving the SC genre - will be looking forward to seeing your grumpy self in the not too distant future. Btw. The true constant of SC development isn't change, but delay.
I'm gonna stay and hope you can move on to bigger and brighter things. I agree with most of what you said here. I have spent way too much on C Roberts' dream and have not seen much that gives me hope. Hoping to find new things that you will uncover.
I respect you 1000x more for taking a stand and saying ‘enough is enough’ and deciding to follow your integrity and stop covering Star Citizen. I’ve re subscribed to you as such, and look forwards to you covering other games that catch that grumpy eye of yours, including hopefully some Starfield soon. I’d be interested in your own review when you’ve had enough time to gather thoughts. I’m sitting around waiting for my copy to arrive (stuck lost in transit) meantime. CIG behaviour the last two years has been something of a disgrace, and I’m largely done with the game too and have walked away. I see my own mistakes pledging in the past and only wish they’d used those funds wisely - I do not feel they have.
Totally agreed with everything you said about this "game" I've spent over €1000 on ships a good few years back but just stopped playing as I felt it a waste of time going and getting anything to just loose it in a wipe. Or spend about 20mins just trying to get in a ship and up into space only for a bug to cause crash and have to do it all again. I just started shouting "Stop buildings ships to sell and just finish the dam game!!!!" May take a look at it again once its finished if I'm still alive as I'm 44 now and god only knows if this will ever be classes as finished. Thanks for being a honest voice about the state of Star Citizen!
I tried SC back with the last free weekend, and right at the start of the game, before even doing anything, I got stuck on the bed. Couldn't do jack squat about it. No respawn, no debug, no unstuck, no such feature. For a "game" raking in that much money, to be outclassed by a game like Satisfactory which is much smaller, made by a smaller studio, in terms of quality of life, quality of experience, general features, and frankly, reliable playability, I made up my mind. Within the next minute, SC was deleted, never looked back to this steaming pile of flaming garbage
my local hospital cost 100 mil dollar 3 years to finish...5 district get the benefit of free health care....CIG get 500 mil dollar....what the community get?
I'm with ya, I love playing the game and I got suckered into dumping a lot of money into it but lately with what feels like zero progress, a empty universe, only one system and what seems like 10 people working on the game while 1000 sit behind them cheering them on. I been burnt out on the game and took a break two months ago and still going strong. I'm just looking for something to scratch that scifi space game so... Here's hoping Starfield fulfills that need 🥂
It's okay I've given up too man. Been a backer since 2013 and like other comments have said and yourself, everyone has their limits. For yourself I know the content change and future of the channel will be scary but I think it's for the better. You deserve better success and I think pingeonholing in SC content like many that have come before you has ended their channels. Alot of people I used to watch back in the day from like 2013 to when i stopped really watching in 2018ish either don't make SC content via twitch or youtube or just quit entirely making content. Luckily I know starfield is coming out and I know it's already oversaturated with people posting about it but maybe covering that for awhile until you find your new way is a good Segway. Probably a good time to get out of SC too seeing as the ship is so far gone and there's atleast something to latch onto. Keep going man love your stuff as always.
I remember discovering your channel with a tutorial to do ERT torpedo runs. There was like 100 subs at this time. I hope things finally get better for SC on day and you find exciting things to cover for you cause you’re very creative people. Take care
I'm 100% fine if people still back this game and defend it based on what they think it'll turn into, it's their money after all. The crazy part is when those same people deny any of the stuff listed in the first half of the video ever happened...that's just bonkers. Also, the "it's in alpha, what do you expect?" defense is also crazy at this point given all the promised features that haven't materialized.
The easiest way CIG could be continually raising funds is by fixing core mechanics of the game, then hosting competitions with an entrance fee for backers to consider paying in exchange for the chance to win a high dollar ship as a grand prize. For example, an entry fee of $15 to rent a Drake Caterpillar already loaded with a base commodity for 48 hours. Assuming entry for a competition to earn the most money from the players' continual runs for net profit drives orgs to band together to attack/ defend their mates' Cats, you drive up the percentage of active players on some core mechanics that you want tested. Plus, the thousands of entrants that would want to win a caterpillar would generate a f*ck ton of revenue on top interest in the game as a result of the popular RUclipsrs who'd have exciting content to record, collab, and compete against one another and their followers. I'd say the net benefits to the value of giving away what is effectively an NFT, would be 10,000 : 1 Bottom line is that everyone expects to have fun with the game, not have a sec to sec real life space simulation experience. We want escapism.
Star Citizen is turning into a arcadie due to BS balancing. Just get rid of balancing and turn the ships on what they are capable of. MAKE MISSION LIKE ANNEX INVADE IN ARMA. We need Combined arms gameplay to justify bought ships and ground vehicle.
Subscribed because of this. Excited to see what direction you'll go with the channel! I guess Fort Solis and then Starfield reviews might be a natural progression?
Cheers from Brazil, im a backer since the beginning and i used to have fun only by going to my hangar and chill out... i was amazed when we got port olisar. And a decade later we still can only fly and shoot (unresponsive) targets. Seriously this is a tech demo based on frustration in all the levels of interaction.
Here's the thing, dude... I absolutely understand how you're feeling, because I feel the same way. There are red flags everywhere, with more popping up (especially during this year and the last 3, to be exact). All I can say is this - don't look to the future. Just enjoy what you can, at the moment it's available. That's how I keep my sanity, and most importantly - how I stop myself from being disappointed. My latest video shows the concept of this idea, just enjoy what you can, at the time it's available. Never look to the future. Show the bugs, show the glitches - it's what makes for the best comedic content. You're doing it perfectly, hope you don't stop here!
Dude, please play Starfield, and leave this _no fun_ buggy crap behind. Either this or No mans Sky, are superior without killing your account. SC is just a crapshoot money grab. I know I was in 2k 3yrs ago, and sold everything on the deep web without regrets.
Wow this was one of the best videos you made so far, definitely got lots of laughs out of it. Defintely going to stick around if you make videos like this. Will be sad not to see you in the SC world anymore but I'm glad you're making decisions to help your life!
I used to be one of those that saw you as a problem for SC, but in all honesty, you're right. I am only a few years in SC, and I still love the game (will still play it from time to time) but I've lost some interest in it due to the delays. I can't imagine the pain of waiting 11 yrs for something one was promised. This video speaks alot of truth, and my hope is CIG will deliver on some of its promises soon. Hope your future endeavors are successful Grumpy; you were an asset to the verse and your critique will be missed. 07
I started backing the game (over $300) and almost every time I played the game I lost all my progression weather it’s to bugs, resets, or getting killed by someone and loosing all the armor I bought with real money and now I am naked and starting with no money and armor and NOTHING. After spending so much money. It’s ridiculous.
A great video, well done and engaging. Gosh, I forgot some of the stuff, not yet in the game, but boy will it ever be a great game once the projects get done. I'll still play and wait, I have other games and project to do while things happen in Star Citizen. You really make good videos and hey you're very informative about this game. Stick around.
The fact you are willing to walk away from Star Citizen, hold a lot of weight. And I'll continue to support you because of this. Integrity is so fucking rare South Park based multiple seasons around such a foreign concept. I look forward to seeing your honest opinions on other games. I've also withdrawn my time from SC as they continue to fucknaround and find out.
This is probably one of my favorite videos, bravo. As a smaller creator myself that started back in Nov I had some great fun....met some good people and have had a great time watching my channel grow. It's difficult to support a project like this. Luckily I have very minimal invested since 2016 so it's easier to bow in and bow out. Keep your head up.....creation is not easy and look forward to seeing where you go!
I always thought it curious why no one bats an eye about CIG's staff conditions. IS anyone overworked? Harrassed? Underpayed? Is there ANY amount of crunching going on? Is anyone forcing any deadlines, at all? I'm all cool with companies treating their staff well, but surely we need to be asking for a good balance, cus this all straight up stinks of zero attention given to their audience
It'll be hard to see you go Grumpy. You were one of the voices I came to when i wanted real criticism. You and SaltEMike are 2 of the creators I would listen to on this game to see if it was worth coming back to yet. You don't deserve the hate that you got because of it. You're a talented guy, so I think you'll find a new game to cover quick. I really hope they can get it together and fix SC so that someday you can come back. You will be missed o7
Thanks for the honest comments, Grumpy. I've been trying to tell players that Star Citizen will never get to Beta and then release as long as players keep spending money on digital ships. Time to move on to Starfield.
Hey Grumpy, long time viewer here. Love your content and your honesty. Don't get down on yourself at all. I will miss the SC content but I'm sticking around for everything else. I really loved your sort of journalistic approach in some of your videos (especially in your greed video), and I am eager to see what you can continue to produce!
Do what you gotta do man. Starfield is about to come out so if I were you, I would jump at the opportunity to cover it and play it for your viewers. I have subscribed out of respect for your honesty and topic of this video.
You're right that I found you because of SC, but I stayed because of YOU, your takes, your honesty and your humor. Stay like this and there's no reason for me to leave. Soooo.. I'm staying and looking forward to whatever you'll cook for us in your cigarette smoke-filled kitchen ;) Seeya and thanks!!
Thank you for all the fun time. Can't wait for more videos away from this SC'am .. Waiting for more videos from Starfield of whatever game you're going to play. New journey ahead.
All PTU levels can be unlocked by playtesting a lot in previous cycles. They just want active people testing out servers that have limited load capacity.
4:28...You are the noise. I have been a backer since the beginning. I am still pledging the project. When I became a backer I understood this to be a long-term investment and welcomed the opportunity to break stuff in each new patch. If you just want the cookie-cutter game because you have an imbalance of patience for something grand, then you have a bit of a personal issue that you should probably reflect on. You took 4:28 personally...if that doesn't say something then nothing will.
You are right, its a shame this game will never be released or it will be unfinished. “It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.” - Mark Twain
@ryanorionwotanson4568 How can you say that when AAA games take 10+ years to develop? GTA 6 is a perfect example. That's ROCKSTAR. With multiple games under their belt, full dev teams with only 1 kind of game to make. How long has gta 6 been on development? Now, take STAR CITIZEN. With its own original architecture built literally it's own engine. Star engine was built from scratch. They aren't using engines that today's developers use such as Unreal Engine 5. Those engines can't handle the complexity of what Star Citizen is building. You do you, but you know absolutely NOTHING about developing a game. Try it. Then come back to me and explain why it's taking more than 10 years. Don't be ignorant. Educate yourself
@@PRPWR is GTA a glitchy crashing mess? I don't think so... Those AAA games are a full game after 10 years, or less, SC is STILL in Alpha. Your point has some flaws...
@ryanorionwotanson4568 Yes, my point is ROCKSTAR has MILLIONS of dollars, full dev teams who have built 5 games before it, and yet even with all that, they still take 10 years to develop. Star Citizen had 0. They raised the money themselves, they had to build a team, build engines, programs, algorithms. They could've taken the money and ran. Yet, they are doing something so ambitious, that noone thinks it's even possible. Glitchy mess? Yeah maybe, but they also were developing 2 games at once. Now that Squadron 42 is just about done. You can see how fast things are being patched. It's insane.
@@mrdude3697 i was never in any programs. If anything, ccs that are much smaller than me (150 subs on twitch) are and I am not. Most people that are critical towards cig are not.
After expending 2600$ I just want to get out of this mess... Have 1 simple ship, and that it .. please help me community ... I want to sell my ships ..
For me, the greatest issue i have is the constant use of the excuse, "It's an alpha.". Only 15% finished means rhey have to change the release model. Live needs to be 100% stable with the current features. I would be fine with the slow development if i could play the current features bug free. They could then have two types of PTU. One that's a buggy mess like what we get now, but has the latest features we see in the current live releases. Then the phased PTU for testing cutting-edge features, like we see with the current PTU. Getting on a server and doing a bunker mission where npcs are suddenly sliding across the bunker like the flash or even teleporting. Shooting weapons and there is a 15-30 second delay when it shoots. Mission markers and location markers not showing up. NPCs standing sround in clusters blockading walkways or standing in T-pose. The train at New Babbage, that used to work flawlessly, now clipping through parts of the map and buildings. And the list goes on and on. The wipes are pretty much amplifing these bugs because the grind to get them back is ruined by the bugs. Not to mention the hits of "woke" culture I'm seeing within the company means it's likely going to show up in SQ42 and the PU. I've got better things to invest my money into that stay neutral on these topics. More money for my racing sims, DCS World and cockpit building gear. Star Citizen is quickly turning out to be a dud. I had high hopes but their pride to not change their release model, seeming willingness to lie and their atrempts to gide negative comments is leading me to believe it's headed toward a big crash. But, the top three will keep their millions and shrug it off.
Dude... the SOLE creator of starship evo has done more for the functionality of his game than cig has done in 15 fkn years and ove half a BILLION dollars! I mean. Its a more complete game than star cit is by a long shot!! If only he had a team behind him as well...
Because of you, I never got sucked into the big lie which is Star Citizen... which I thank you for. There's nothing wrong with being an honest guy. Look how successful Buldar's Gate 3 is... and they have zero microtransactions or pay to win (and they are making a ton of money the correct way, by making and selling an amazing game). I get the appeal of being able to live out one's fantasy of living in and exploring the universe... there are current, working games that allow you to do that and a very anticipated game, like dare I say Starfield (I predict it will be huge). Good luck to you, Grumpy.
@@AllergicFungusit looks fine, and its a full game lol. In reviews its being compared to skyrim/fallout 4 in space which sounds good enough to me even if its nothing revolutionary
I don´t think there is any other genre that could serve as a platform for con like Star Citizen. But space has been for long time such underused and neglected genre and we space nuts are so passionate about what we love, that Star Citizen is literally the perfect idea. Promise EXACTLY what we want while almost nobody else even talk about it. Back it up with some big names, flashy marketing, good lore.. and that´s it. This is not a scam game, this the most genius long term con in gaming.. ever. And it´s just fkin sad. I would really, really love it to be actual game. Same goes for Squadron.
I think one of the biggest things for me was how the BMM was handled last year? All the marketing. ISC episodes showing it progress. Huge sales push at the new price point and then the ship is just dropped. Pretty scummy.
Bought 2 ships like... seems like a DECADE AGO now. They represent the two styles I wanted to play in a game like this. Over the years: -The game HAS progressed but at an AMAZINGLY glacial pace -Bugs and problems with my paid ships have never been fixed. Some features are still not implemented. -They have 'adjusted' the roles my already bought ships would fit, to make some new ships seem more better suited for the roles I already paid for. Yeah I see what they did there. I play a lot of other games, and hey, it's not our responsibility to determine if this game will ever release or not, but I wonder... I mean.... it would be easy to release it all bugged out and incomplete, but then, the game would be up. Right now - they get to make money and never actually be accountable for delivering anything, on any schedule. THEY ALREADY HAVE WHAT THEY WANT. They are not interested in releasing the game, and if they ever do, it will be another 10 years down the road, it will be a buggy mess, they will not fix the bugs, they will abandon the game immediately start selling Star Citizen 2 and get back to where they are comfortable - a big paid development project that never really releases and makes no promises on delivery times. So, who cares? I 'donated' about $70 for a couple ships on sale, I occasionally install and play around with them, and then I don't play again for 2-3 more years. I don't worry about if this game will ever release anymore; I assume it will not. Meantime, nothing they ever do will ever squeeze another red cent out of me, I am smart enough to have learned my lesson.
Dang. I wasn't high on copium but ngl didn't enjoy your grumpiness which is why I never subbed nor really watched. But this... this got me thinking : I not only respect and appreciate your integrity and steadfastness to your personal values, but I agree with the points you made. Sooo many little hiccoughs get swept under the rug but what you did is show us the massive lump that has built-up to the point you can't walk over the rug without tripping over it. Yeah, CIG is stringing us along and I was all for it, but now I feel like a fool. And it fucking breaks my heart because I've been itching for a game like this since WC:Privateer in '93
Love the video. You make a ton of sense - I myself and just unplugged my sticks and need to take a long mental break from SC. But look forward to other games you cover!
Chris Roberts is incapable of leading a development team because he is incapable of making a decision, he gets lost in the minutia of every decision which redirects the developers into areas that don't really matter. There is a reason why he "left" Microsoft and someone else had to finish Freelancer.
I’ve been a outsider occasionally checking in to see progress. The main reason I never committed was scope creep and I never truly believed they could create a single shard meshed server. Seems like if they had focused on single player they would have their Starfield by now, and could have worked on persistent elements (the hardest parts) later; which kind of hints at bad management of the project. I think they will eventually get across the finish line, but it won’t be near what they promised.
I did not subscribe to your channel because of your content but because of your energy and your personnality. I discovered cool musics too. So, my man, I won't let you down. Total respect for your integrity, please keep focusing your grumpy eye on whatever subject you may feel interested in. That's why I'm, and will keep, following you ;) Take care !
2015, that's when I THINK I backed. Don't know it MAY have been 2014. This is the most legitimate video I've seen made about Star Citizen. Accountability is a thing and it is very much time that Backers began holding this Company accountable. If it were not for the friends I've made within this game I believe I would walk away myself, and as soon as the rest of my Org reaches this same consensus and choose another game to play together as a whole I will be doing just that as much as it makes me very sad.😢
Yo dude. You're not wrong. I'm invested in SC becoming something. I don't really care about the whole PTU access thing - as in, we can all trust that over time they will charge for the most ridiculous stuff (like the citcon gear package). But, I do really feel that it's taking too much time to make progress, and really there's not that much to show for it. Sure there may be a whole bunch of back end, tech magic - but none of that matters becasue the deliverable is a working game, and that isn't delivered, and they've failed at delivery for years. The point about not knowing where the finish line is, on even SQ42 which is a closed system, is insane (N00bifier made much the same point). So basically, I've paused SC for months now. I don't have much time, and I just checkin with content creators to see if there's any tangible progress that's worth the few hours I may have to play something. There never really is, but you know - I hope that one day they'll actually do a big reveal, but I ain't holding my breath
They have secured a comfortable life for themselves, a job they love, but don't like to do. They take their time to finish the game on purpose. Why not live as parasites for another 10 years.
There is another thing that CIG will talk about when they have nothing else to talk about, and is never finished. Fire propagation. For many years they've been showing videos of this and how fire spreads and is extinguished. It's virtually the same video over and over again. There's never anything new about it. About the kraken, only the exterior was developed to sell the ship during one of their presentations. Production was stopped after that, and was never worked on again. But even if it was, it would be like the other capital ships. They still aren't viable in-game, and only NPC variants exist. Before now I haven't seen that clip of John Crewe saying the marketing team decides how the ship will function. That's a good one. What he was doing with his hands tells me he knows it's a bad response, too.
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Star Citizen is turning into a arcadie due to BS balancing. Just get rid of balancing and turn the ships on what they are capable of. MAKE MISSION LIKE ANNEX INVADE IN ARMA. We need Combined arms gameplay to justify bought ships and ground vehicle.
@GrumpyEye the problem is that they keep getting sponsored by the players, and we see the prices go up every time.
i am happy we get Starfield soon to play that SpaceGame where it is possible to do the most things SC prommised.
hope you can make a playthrough from that game.
You know Starfield is dropping multiplayer....... Ill bet the farm. When it does lets make this channel LIT!!!!!
I purchased SC because of you and your good videos. However ironically your best video on SC was this. F um. l will stick around see where you take the channel, I've stayed even though i have not touched SC for over 18 mths.
im looking forward to Nightingale
That is the most complete, yet concise, summary of what the reality of Star Citizen is from a backer's perspective; that is, if they've been around for a while, have been paying attention and can see the bigger picture. Much respect for not pulling punches, putting issues into context and calling out what may not be plainly obvious to everyone. Subbed.
I purchased a starter kit for 49 dollars back in 2015. I did not get scammed but I went into it knowing it was a gamble
Oh man... I'm gonna miss your SC videos. You are one of the very few creators who actually hold CIG accountable for their claims.
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lol, someone should hold this mf accountable for false and failed videos.
One of the few for sure. SaltyMike does a pretty good job. Sometimes the salt is thick, but I guess it’s in the name 😂
Thank you GrumpyEye for all the smiles and gameplay we have shared!
love you brother
@@GrumpyEyeGaming You as well my friend. Thanks for shooting at me in the end clip! :)
Yes this video was spot on.
Star Citizen is depressing now. I dont know whats worse, the fact that they lie their asses off and make no progress, or the fact that people still defend the rate of progress???
Saying they make no progress is kinda stupid, even if you barely follow development looking back you can see clear progess
@@brick-2000 they are not making progress, they are professionals at looking like they are trying to make progress while talking so much crap you think they are doing something. Anyone with eyes can see that they do nothing each month.
The fact that people defend it is definitely worse. You can understand why a company would bullshit with people's money if they could get away with it. People happily going along for the ride no matter how obvious the situation gets is the confusing part.
@@brick-2000well yea. Clearly. I remember when you could ONLY access your ship in the hangar.
So yea, "progress". But, the rate of "progress" is bs.
@@Xero_Kaiser no I can tell you what's bullshit. What's bullshit would be getting the money and giving no product at all, what's bullshit is saying nothing about development, what's BULLSHIT is people hating on a game and calling it a scam when it has REFUNDS. WHATS BULLSHIT IS PEOPLE JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON AND WANTING THIS GAME TO FAIL EVEN THOUGH THAT BENIFITZ NOBODY. I'm sick and tired of people making claims and accusations about the game when they don't know a single fucking thing about game development and the people who ACTUALLY know about about game development still don't understand how difficult it is to make a game of this scale, with tech that they had to make from scratch, and a dev team that started out as 5 people.
I've been patient with this game since I backed it in 2014. Even I have my limits.
2012 here
Same. I invested im the game in September 2014. I have been done with it for a bit now. I am in the process of asking for a refund. I know they wont. But I will continue to ask them until the game actually launches in a full game state. Too many empty and broken promises. 13 years of Dev with where the game is at is rediculous. It is not a scam. But is it a con.
@@TheCaptDude definitely a con. That's the best way to describe it; "not a scam but a con"
@@Uncanny_Mountain Gluck gluck slurp "CIG" gluck slurp gluck
2012 wooooaaaah wooop woop FUCK CIG. (For REAL) - Sorry was listening to run dmc. Not joking with both.
He didn't hold the line...
He kept making sc vids😂
I was a big fan of Chris Roberts from back when "Freelancer" came out, and when I heard he was crowdfunding a new game...the game he always wanted to make: "Star Citizen", I was SUPER excited! Sounded like a dream prospect. I contributed to the initial backing but decided to hold off on diving into any of the early builds because I wanted to dive into the COMPLETED game. A decade later and I'm still waiting. Full disclosure, I've dived into a couple of their "play for free" weekends, but I haven't given them any money since my initial donation. Obviously I'm not as invested as a lot of people, but it was still something I've been looking forward to for years, and given how disappointed I am, I can't imagine what it must be for people like you. Fans who have invested a huge part of their soul's to this game, created RUclips channels, and gone to conventions all for a game that will likely never be what we wanted it to be...finished. It's so depressing, thinking of what we were promised versus where we are YEARS later. I say Sunk Cost Fallacy be damned! Get out now until they have a complete (or at least not busted) product. We should all follow your example and back up our frustrated complaints with actions. Stop giving money, and producing content for what has effectively become a money machine for the few people in charge of this mess. They're just leading us on, and unless something changes, they're just going to keep doing it. What they're doing is wrong, and someone has to say so! Mad respect for you, brother. Naysayers and detractors be damned.
Ive put alot of unanswered faith in CIG and even i have to keep it real while im being told that "im excluded after years of support" because i didnt give them 25k in funds. Their behaviour has changed and you are absolutely right about the consistent broken promises.
You are 100% correct. Thanks for making this video. I am sending it to CIG in my customer support email. :)
Don't sell yourself short, grump. You have a ton of charisma and talent. I'm not going anywhere and I bet the vast majority of subscribers feel the same. Looking forward to a new chapter and some new content. Cheers, brother!
awww
People really do appreciate a truth teller in this era of continual misinformation and bullshittery.
I gave up on star citizen a while back, maybe I'll keep an eye on it from time to time but I'll definitely not play it any time soon lol 🤷 been playing other games that's more enjoyable but again that's just me, if others have a lot of fun playing star citizen welp that's their choice lol
your gonna leave a hole thats gonna be tough to fill.. but every man knows his limits.. the wise ones do anyways...
I've been saying for years, if we want this game to ever be finished, we have to stop shilling for the production. Thank you for having the balls to do what needs to be done. Making you started something big.
You should do a playthrough of Starfield. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
I would totally watch that.
Good luck; there are a LOT of Starfield RUclipsrs already at this point.
Bethesda should have just called it "Disappointing." It's space fallout. Nothing new.
lmfao
You've been the only SC content creator that doesn't feel like a slimy used car salesman, and I've enjoyed your non-SC content as well. Keep at it!
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Just dont spend your life savings on a game, Ive got a few hundred hours of gameplay with friends off a £40 buy in...
Guess what, casinos also exploit stupidity... like a lot of things in live.
"A fool and his money..."
recently found you but you have a solid point. :) thank you for your dedication and hope things turn better.
Thank you very much ❤️
Seems more like the game is shaping up well, there is less for you to say on it. lol
Good job standing up for how you feel, my man. I'll be looking forward to seeing where you go from here. Cheers!
Glad you've woken up. See you in Starfield.
For me starfield Is a delusion,but anyway Is a Bethesda game so😢
No Man's Sky is better 😂
They make too much money with no accountability, so they will never leave Alpha.
Feeling this. Blown away some one hasn't managed to drag them into court yet.
You can lead the way. I have my popcorn ready 🍿
@@gk.4102need the money like them first, half the battle is fighting the court dragging feet and the cost that comes with it.
@@hudgypudgy2960 Nah, there are plenty of law firms that accept likely-to-win cases and take charge of all the costs, and get reimbursed if you win the case.
Idk man, it's an ever growing game. Sure, it's slow as hell and most people who invested believe it's time to see more progression. I say to let it bake. The more they do accomplish, the more that gets into the game development community in general. The tech demo for Star Engine is blowing a lot of people's minds right now. I mean they are a tech company who is using their game as product of that tech. You invest in tech companies and take the risk of the project failing. But stopping support is only going to further smother this, and like it or not. The tech behind this game altogether is more than other AAA games on the market. Not to mention as technology advances, so does the rate of that advancement. This game will eventually reach it's inflection point but it's a huge goal to achieve. Starfield took millions and 10 years to make. Only difference is they did it behind closed doors. CIG aren't truthful about everything but what developer is? I've had a major issue with most AAA companies nowadays, and honestly as a backer of this game since 2016 CIG still seems like a breath of fresh air. Sorry you're burnt out on broken promises and missed deadlines. I get it. Many people are. I honestly hope your love for this game gets rekindled, though. I hate it at times too, but I can't deny the scope of it. Even with one single system, it's a huge game. But I also keep in mind even with all the bugs, it's an actively developed game, however slow, and groundbreaking advancements don't happen overnight. It takes, trial and error, and lots of money. I encourage you to watch some of citcon. Many backers, myself included, think this one was different in many ways. The presentations were great and the demos were fleshed out. Anyways, wish u the best man. Hope to see u in the verse.
I've personally enjoyed that particular breeze of fresh air you've been giving the SC genre - will be looking forward to seeing your grumpy self in the not too distant future.
Btw. The true constant of SC development isn't change, but delay.
That last line hit hardddd.
If you haven't noticed change, you haven't been paying attention. Yes, there have been delays as well.
@@zeroneutral There has been change. But never as a constant.
Fitting nickname, btw.
@@Winterx69 That's not true. Change has been constant, just not to the level that people desire.
Beyond Good and Evil 2 will be finished before Star Citizen while being in preproduction limbo at Ubisoft.
I'm gonna stay and hope you can move on to bigger and brighter things. I agree with most of what you said here. I have spent way too much on C Roberts' dream and have not seen much that gives me hope. Hoping to find new things that you will uncover.
Company probably made more money from A unfinished game than a 100% finished one. Whata epic scam
I respect you 1000x more for taking a stand and saying ‘enough is enough’ and deciding to follow your integrity and stop covering Star Citizen. I’ve re subscribed to you as such, and look forwards to you covering other games that catch that grumpy eye of yours, including hopefully some Starfield soon. I’d be interested in your own review when you’ve had enough time to gather thoughts. I’m sitting around waiting for my copy to arrive (stuck lost in transit) meantime. CIG behaviour the last two years has been something of a disgrace, and I’m largely done with the game too and have walked away. I see my own mistakes pledging in the past and only wish they’d used those funds wisely - I do not feel they have.
Totally agreed with everything you said about this "game" I've spent over €1000 on ships a good few years back but just stopped playing as I felt it a waste of time going and getting anything to just loose it in a wipe. Or spend about 20mins just trying to get in a ship and up into space only for a bug to cause crash and have to do it all again. I just started shouting "Stop buildings ships to sell and just finish the dam game!!!!" May take a look at it again once its finished if I'm still alive as I'm 44 now and god only knows if this will ever be classes as finished. Thanks for being a honest voice about the state of Star Citizen!
Dude , you voicing your aggravation in the form of comedy is perfect! lmao
I tried SC back with the last free weekend, and right at the start of the game, before even doing anything, I got stuck on the bed. Couldn't do jack squat about it. No respawn, no debug, no unstuck, no such feature. For a "game" raking in that much money, to be outclassed by a game like Satisfactory which is much smaller, made by a smaller studio, in terms of quality of life, quality of experience, general features, and frankly, reliable playability, I made up my mind. Within the next minute, SC was deleted, never looked back to this steaming pile of flaming garbage
Every developing game needs criticism to help it stay on track. Your service on SC will be missed.
my local hospital cost 100 mil dollar 3 years to finish...5 district get the benefit of free health care....CIG get 500 mil dollar....what the community get?
I'm with ya, I love playing the game and I got suckered into dumping a lot of money into it but lately with what feels like zero progress, a empty universe, only one system and what seems like 10 people working on the game while 1000 sit behind them cheering them on. I been burnt out on the game and took a break two months ago and still going strong. I'm just looking for something to scratch that scifi space game so... Here's hoping Starfield fulfills that need 🥂
Empyrion galactic survival with the reforged eden mod off steam.
It's okay I've given up too man. Been a backer since 2013 and like other comments have said and yourself, everyone has their limits.
For yourself I know the content change and future of the channel will be scary but I think it's for the better. You deserve better success and I think pingeonholing in SC content like many that have come before you has ended their channels. Alot of people I used to watch back in the day from like 2013 to when i stopped really watching in 2018ish either don't make SC content via twitch or youtube or just quit entirely making content. Luckily I know starfield is coming out and I know it's already oversaturated with people posting about it but maybe covering that for awhile until you find your new way is a good Segway. Probably a good time to get out of SC too seeing as the ship is so far gone and there's atleast something to latch onto. Keep going man love your stuff as always.
I remember discovering your channel with a tutorial to do ERT torpedo runs. There was like 100 subs at this time.
I hope things finally get better for SC on day and you find exciting things to cover for you cause you’re very creative people.
Take care
Normal game devs: "the only constant is change." Chris Roberts - "hold my beer", "the only constant is dollars."
Take everyone on a Starfield adventure it might be fun to watch :)
star citizen ad before "playable now" you know the drill
Starfield is around the corner, start covering that space adventure if you want. I’ll still have your back waiting your new coverage.
I'm 100% fine if people still back this game and defend it based on what they think it'll turn into, it's their money after all. The crazy part is when those same people deny any of the stuff listed in the first half of the video ever happened...that's just bonkers.
Also, the "it's in alpha, what do you expect?" defense is also crazy at this point given all the promised features that haven't materialized.
Devs let us all down bro
CIG's business model is completely unethical. I uninstalled SC during the 3.18 shitshow and Ive been playing it since 2013.
The easiest way CIG could be continually raising funds is by fixing core mechanics of the game, then hosting competitions with an entrance fee for backers to consider paying in exchange for the chance to win a high dollar ship as a grand prize.
For example, an entry fee of $15 to rent a Drake Caterpillar already loaded with a base commodity for 48 hours. Assuming entry for a competition to earn the most money from the players' continual runs for net profit drives orgs to band together to attack/ defend their mates' Cats, you drive up the percentage of active players on some core mechanics that you want tested.
Plus, the thousands of entrants that would want to win a caterpillar would generate a f*ck ton of revenue on top interest in the game as a result of the popular RUclipsrs who'd have exciting content to record, collab, and compete against one another and their followers.
I'd say the net benefits to the value of giving away what is effectively an NFT, would be 10,000 : 1
Bottom line is that everyone expects to have fun with the game, not have a sec to sec real life space simulation experience. We want escapism.
Fuck CiG. I'm sticking with Grumpy, at least he makes actual content.
I support your decision, class action lawsuit against CIG should be something every backer gets involved in.
This video should be on the big presentation on this years Citizen Con. 👍👍👍
Star Citizen is turning into a arcadie due to BS balancing. Just get rid of balancing and turn the ships on what they are capable of. MAKE MISSION LIKE ANNEX INVADE IN ARMA. We need Combined arms gameplay to justify bought ships and ground vehicle.
Subscribed because of this. Excited to see what direction you'll go with the channel! I guess Fort Solis and then Starfield reviews might be a natural progression?
Cheers from Brazil, im a backer since the beginning and i used to have fun only by going to my hangar and chill out... i was amazed when we got port olisar.
And a decade later we still can only fly and shoot (unresponsive) targets. Seriously this is a tech demo based on frustration in all the levels of interaction.
Here's the thing, dude... I absolutely understand how you're feeling, because I feel the same way. There are red flags everywhere, with more popping up (especially during this year and the last 3, to be exact). All I can say is this - don't look to the future. Just enjoy what you can, at the moment it's available. That's how I keep my sanity, and most importantly - how I stop myself from being disappointed. My latest video shows the concept of this idea, just enjoy what you can, at the time it's available. Never look to the future. Show the bugs, show the glitches - it's what makes for the best comedic content. You're doing it perfectly, hope you don't stop here!
Dude, please play Starfield, and leave this _no fun_ buggy crap behind.
Either this or No mans Sky, are superior without killing your account. SC is just a crapshoot money grab. I know I was in 2k 3yrs ago, and sold everything on the deep web without regrets.
Wow this was one of the best videos you made so far, definitely got lots of laughs out of it. Defintely going to stick around if you make videos like this. Will be sad not to see you in the SC world anymore but I'm glad you're making decisions to help your life!
This game is like my house. It's a money pit !! they lied to us all, and robbed us, with a car salesman smile on their face.
I used to be one of those that saw you as a problem for SC, but in all honesty, you're right. I am only a few years in SC, and I still love the game (will still play it from time to time) but I've lost some interest in it due to the delays. I can't imagine the pain of waiting 11 yrs for something one was promised. This video speaks alot of truth, and my hope is CIG will deliver on some of its promises soon. Hope your future endeavors are successful Grumpy; you were an asset to the verse and your critique will be missed. 07
I started backing the game (over $300) and almost every time I played the game I lost all my progression weather it’s to bugs, resets, or getting killed by someone and loosing all the armor I bought with real money and now I am naked and starting with no money and armor and NOTHING. After spending so much money. It’s ridiculous.
A great video, well done and engaging. Gosh, I forgot some of the stuff, not yet in the game, but boy will it ever be a great game once the projects get done. I'll still play and wait, I have other games and project to do while things happen in Star Citizen. You really make good videos and hey you're very informative about this game. Stick around.
Can't argue with you, Star Citizen has crossed over into the twilight zone.
The fact you are willing to walk away from Star Citizen, hold a lot of weight.
And I'll continue to support you because of this.
Integrity is so fucking rare South Park based multiple seasons around such a foreign concept.
I look forward to seeing your honest opinions on other games.
I've also withdrawn my time from SC as they continue to fucknaround and find out.
This is probably one of my favorite videos, bravo. As a smaller creator myself that started back in Nov I had some great fun....met some good people and have had a great time watching my channel grow. It's difficult to support a project like this. Luckily I have very minimal invested since 2016 so it's easier to bow in and bow out. Keep your head up.....creation is not easy and look forward to seeing where you go!
Im not playing anymore but waiting if Star citizen fail it fails and IF they change for the better i might go back
I always thought it curious why no one bats an eye about CIG's staff conditions. IS anyone overworked? Harrassed? Underpayed?
Is there ANY amount of crunching going on? Is anyone forcing any deadlines, at all?
I'm all cool with companies treating their staff well, but surely we need to be asking for a good balance, cus this all straight up stinks of zero attention given to their audience
It'll be hard to see you go Grumpy. You were one of the voices I came to when i wanted real criticism. You and SaltEMike are 2 of the creators I would listen to on this game to see if it was worth coming back to yet. You don't deserve the hate that you got because of it. You're a talented guy, so I think you'll find a new game to cover quick. I really hope they can get it together and fix SC so that someday you can come back. You will be missed o7
Thanks for the honest comments, Grumpy. I've been trying to tell players that Star Citizen will never get to Beta and then release as long as players keep spending money on digital ships. Time to move on to Starfield.
This video clearly needs more attention...
Hey Grumpy, long time viewer here. Love your content and your honesty. Don't get down on yourself at all. I will miss the SC content but I'm sticking around for everything else. I really loved your sort of journalistic approach in some of your videos (especially in your greed video), and I am eager to see what you can continue to produce!
Do what you gotta do man. Starfield is about to come out so if I were you, I would jump at the opportunity to cover it and play it for your viewers. I have subscribed out of respect for your honesty and topic of this video.
You're right that I found you because of SC, but I stayed because of YOU, your takes, your honesty and your humor. Stay like this and there's no reason for me to leave. Soooo.. I'm staying and looking forward to whatever you'll cook for us in your cigarette smoke-filled kitchen ;) Seeya and thanks!!
Thank you for all the fun time. Can't wait for more videos away from this SC'am .. Waiting for more videos from Starfield of whatever game you're going to play. New journey ahead.
The WORM looks like a GIANT ANGRY TURD now I look again HAHAHAH
I'll watch your Starfield videos bro!
All PTU levels can be unlocked by playtesting a lot in previous cycles. They just want active people testing out servers that have limited load capacity.
This video is one of your best ones. Thr edition amd information are great. Thanks for sharing and f... CIG.
4:28...You are the noise. I have been a backer since the beginning. I am still pledging the project. When I became a backer I understood this to be a long-term investment and welcomed the opportunity to break stuff in each new patch. If you just want the cookie-cutter game because you have an imbalance of patience for something grand, then you have a bit of a personal issue that you should probably reflect on. You took 4:28 personally...if that doesn't say something then nothing will.
100 % respect for you Grumpy! The commonsense SC content creator.
Dont worry Im gona stay subscribed, you never know what happens in the future.
You are right, its a shame this game will never be released or it will be unfinished.
“It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.” - Mark Twain
Don't give up on Star Citizen. It's been a long time yes. But, they built everything from the ground up.
Copium ...
@ryanorionwotanson4568 How can you say that when AAA games take 10+ years to develop? GTA 6 is a perfect example. That's ROCKSTAR. With multiple games under their belt, full dev teams with only 1 kind of game to make. How long has gta 6 been on development?
Now, take STAR CITIZEN. With its own original architecture built literally it's own engine. Star engine was built from scratch. They aren't using engines that today's developers use such as Unreal Engine 5. Those engines can't handle the complexity of what Star Citizen is building.
You do you, but you know absolutely NOTHING about developing a game. Try it. Then come back to me and explain why it's taking more than 10 years. Don't be ignorant. Educate yourself
@@PRPWR is GTA a glitchy crashing mess? I don't think so... Those AAA games are a full game after 10 years, or less, SC is STILL in Alpha. Your point has some flaws...
@ryanorionwotanson4568 Yes, my point is ROCKSTAR has MILLIONS of dollars, full dev teams who have built 5 games before it, and yet even with all that, they still take 10 years to develop.
Star Citizen had 0. They raised the money themselves, they had to build a team, build engines, programs, algorithms. They could've taken the money and ran.
Yet, they are doing something so ambitious, that noone thinks it's even possible. Glitchy mess? Yeah maybe, but they also were developing 2 games at once. Now that Squadron 42 is just about done. You can see how fast things are being patched. It's insane.
@@PRPWR I guess we will have to see how good Squadron 42 is before we know who has the better point here... Two more years? Get back to me then. 😂
Grumpy didn't hold the line...
I also didn't pay $35 to get an opportunity to MAYBE test Pyro lol
@@GrumpyEyeGaming Just an excuse, you never held the line. shows your character.
i think content creators get access anyway. Knebeltv said that
@@mrdude3697 i was never in any programs. If anything, ccs that are much smaller than me (150 subs on twitch) are and I am not. Most people that are critical towards cig are not.
@@mrdude3697 he can say whatever he wants, that is not true. Go ask Camural or Ray's Guide. Whoever critiques doesn't get any CC access.
After expending 2600$ I just want to get out of this mess... Have 1 simple ship, and that it .. please help me community ... I want to sell my ships ..
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT SPEAKS THE TRUTH!
For me, the greatest issue i have is the constant use of the excuse, "It's an alpha.". Only 15% finished means rhey have to change the release model.
Live needs to be 100% stable with the current features. I would be fine with the slow development if i could play the current features bug free. They could then have two types of PTU. One that's a buggy mess like what we get now, but has the latest features we see in the current live releases. Then the phased PTU for testing cutting-edge features, like we see with the current PTU.
Getting on a server and doing a bunker mission where npcs are suddenly sliding across the bunker like the flash or even teleporting. Shooting weapons and there is a 15-30 second delay when it shoots. Mission markers and location markers not showing up. NPCs standing sround in clusters blockading walkways or standing in T-pose. The train at New Babbage, that used to work flawlessly, now clipping through parts of the map and buildings. And the list goes on and on.
The wipes are pretty much amplifing these bugs because the grind to get them back is ruined by the bugs.
Not to mention the hits of "woke" culture I'm seeing within the company means it's likely going to show up in SQ42 and the PU. I've got better things to invest my money into that stay neutral on these topics. More money for my racing sims, DCS World and cockpit building gear.
Star Citizen is quickly turning out to be a dud. I had high hopes but their pride to not change their release model, seeming willingness to lie and their atrempts to gide negative comments is leading me to believe it's headed toward a big crash. But, the top three will keep their millions and shrug it off.
you are my favorite starcitizen content creator.. love your perspectives.. I know cig is far from perfect, but it's all we got to a degree.
Dude... the SOLE creator of starship evo has done more for the functionality of his game than cig has done in 15 fkn years and ove half a BILLION dollars! I mean. Its a more complete game than star cit is by a long shot!! If only he had a team behind him as well...
Because of you, I never got sucked into the big lie which is Star Citizen... which I thank you for. There's nothing wrong with being an honest guy. Look how successful Buldar's Gate 3 is... and they have zero microtransactions or pay to win (and they are making a ton of money the correct way, by making and selling an amazing game). I get the appeal of being able to live out one's fantasy of living in and exploring the universe... there are current, working games that allow you to do that and a very anticipated game, like dare I say Starfield (I predict it will be huge). Good luck to you, Grumpy.
good. play starfield
better Starfield then broken demo SC ))
@@Datasaver2I gave up on star citizen when I saw they were working on making bed sheet physics
This aged like milk. Starfield sucks in early access already.
@@AllergicFungusit looks fine, and its a full game lol. In reviews its being compared to skyrim/fallout 4 in space which sounds good enough to me even if its nothing revolutionary
I don´t think there is any other genre that could serve as a platform for con like Star Citizen. But space has been for long time such underused and neglected genre and we space nuts are so passionate about what we love, that Star Citizen is literally the perfect idea. Promise EXACTLY what we want while almost nobody else even talk about it. Back it up with some big names, flashy marketing, good lore.. and that´s it. This is not a scam game, this the most genius long term con in gaming.. ever. And it´s just fkin sad. I would really, really love it to be actual game. Same goes for Squadron.
You know who did this too but made up for it for free? No mans sky.
CIG couldn't do that. The perpetual funding cycles is how they keep going
@sudonix5923 if only the no mans sky people could take over and fix it. I know its a pipe dream and i don't even have the crack to fill it
I think one of the biggest things for me was how the BMM was handled last year? All the marketing. ISC episodes showing it progress. Huge sales push at the new price point and then the ship is just dropped. Pretty scummy.
"Star Citizen" will in the future be known as the "Neverending Server Meshing story".
And that's why you don't want to make money out of streaming Star Citizen.
Bought 2 ships like... seems like a DECADE AGO now. They represent the two styles I wanted to play in a game like this.
Over the years:
-The game HAS progressed but at an AMAZINGLY glacial pace
-Bugs and problems with my paid ships have never been fixed. Some features are still not implemented.
-They have 'adjusted' the roles my already bought ships would fit, to make some new ships seem more better suited for the roles I already paid for. Yeah I see what they did there.
I play a lot of other games, and hey, it's not our responsibility to determine if this game will ever release or not, but I wonder... I mean.... it would be easy to release it all bugged out and incomplete, but then, the game would be up. Right now - they get to make money and never actually be accountable for delivering anything, on any schedule. THEY ALREADY HAVE WHAT THEY WANT.
They are not interested in releasing the game, and if they ever do, it will be another 10 years down the road, it will be a buggy mess, they will not fix the bugs, they will abandon the game immediately start selling Star Citizen 2 and get back to where they are comfortable - a big paid development project that never really releases and makes no promises on delivery times.
So, who cares? I 'donated' about $70 for a couple ships on sale, I occasionally install and play around with them, and then I don't play again for 2-3 more years. I don't worry about if this game will ever release anymore; I assume it will not. Meantime, nothing they ever do will ever squeeze another red cent out of me, I am smart enough to have learned my lesson.
Dang. I wasn't high on copium but ngl didn't enjoy your grumpiness which is why I never subbed nor really watched. But this... this got me thinking : I not only respect and appreciate your integrity and steadfastness to your personal values, but I agree with the points you made. Sooo many little hiccoughs get swept under the rug but what you did is show us the massive lump that has built-up to the point you can't walk over the rug without tripping over it. Yeah, CIG is stringing us along and I was all for it, but now I feel like a fool. And it fucking breaks my heart because I've been itching for a game like this since WC:Privateer in '93
Love the video. You make a ton of sense - I myself and just unplugged my sticks and need to take a long mental break from SC. But look forward to other games you cover!
Chris Roberts is incapable of leading a development team because he is incapable of making a decision, he gets lost in the minutia of every decision which redirects the developers into areas that don't really matter. There is a reason why he "left" Microsoft and someone else had to finish Freelancer.
I’ve been a outsider occasionally checking in to see progress. The main reason I never committed was scope creep and I never truly believed they could create a single shard meshed server. Seems like if they had focused on single player they would have their Starfield by now, and could have worked on persistent elements (the hardest parts) later; which kind of hints at bad management of the project. I think they will eventually get across the finish line, but it won’t be near what they promised.
CITCON 2023 will be epic....
Better predictions and promises than last year... same results.
They never intended to finish the game, they just wanted to bleed everyone dry forever and keep giving them hope.
I did not subscribe to your channel because of your content but because of your energy and your personnality. I discovered cool musics too. So, my man, I won't let you down. Total respect for your integrity, please keep focusing your grumpy eye on whatever subject you may feel interested in. That's why I'm, and will keep, following you ;)
Take care !
2015, that's when I THINK I backed. Don't know it MAY have been 2014.
This is the most legitimate video I've seen made about Star Citizen.
Accountability is a thing and it is very much time that Backers began holding this Company accountable.
If it were not for the friends I've made within this game I believe I would walk away myself, and as soon as the rest of my Org reaches this same consensus and choose another game to play together as a whole I will be doing just that as much as it makes me very sad.😢
I will probably play star citizen again in like 2 or 3 years.
Yo dude. You're not wrong. I'm invested in SC becoming something. I don't really care about the whole PTU access thing - as in, we can all trust that over time they will charge for the most ridiculous stuff (like the citcon gear package). But, I do really feel that it's taking too much time to make progress, and really there's not that much to show for it. Sure there may be a whole bunch of back end, tech magic - but none of that matters becasue the deliverable is a working game, and that isn't delivered, and they've failed at delivery for years. The point about not knowing where the finish line is, on even SQ42 which is a closed system, is insane (N00bifier made much the same point). So basically, I've paused SC for months now. I don't have much time, and I just checkin with content creators to see if there's any tangible progress that's worth the few hours I may have to play something. There never really is, but you know - I hope that one day they'll actually do a big reveal, but I ain't holding my breath
They have secured a comfortable life for themselves, a job they love, but don't like to do. They take their time to finish the game on purpose. Why not live as parasites for another 10 years.
Welcome to the Starfield Singleplayer Universe, where all your dreams can be fulfilled... well, after a few years of modding at least.
@saschasuploads No nothing about the universe young padawan.
There is another thing that CIG will talk about when they have nothing else to talk about, and is never finished. Fire propagation. For many years they've been showing videos of this and how fire spreads and is extinguished. It's virtually the same video over and over again. There's never anything new about it.
About the kraken, only the exterior was developed to sell the ship during one of their presentations. Production was stopped after that, and was never worked on again. But even if it was, it would be like the other capital ships. They still aren't viable in-game, and only NPC variants exist.
Before now I haven't seen that clip of John Crewe saying the marketing team decides how the ship will function. That's a good one. What he was doing with his hands tells me he knows it's a bad response, too.