Gotta feel bad for jackie, she had two boyfriends cheat on her an she learned from it, she grew as a person which i love. this is a learning moment for them all.
The thing is, I remember watching this when I was a little kid and i loved Hyde and Jackie so much. But I didn’t realize then how much Jackie truly deserved better than Hyde. He isn’t as apologetic as he should be here imo and he never said he loved her until this moment if I’m remembering correctly. I liked his character a lot but to be in a relationship these things need to change and as much progress as he made from dating Jackie it still wasn’t enough to be what she deserved. Was she a spoiled brat? Yes, but she needed someone to openly love her and trust her, which Hyde wasn’t capable of.
Change is very hard, but the thing is Hyde did change on favor of Jackie and so is Jackie to Hyde. That's why you see them good as a couple. a slight change out of your comfort is alot for some people.
Hyde can pretend to be as confident and mature as he wants, but by doing all this without confirmation nor proof all based on an assumption shows how insecure he is. 2:06 Yes he didn't knew what was going on, so he could at least waited until he knew the facts before doing anything.
I mean be honest unless you are insecure, extremely easily manipulated and just self hating you would break up with a girl/guy that cheated on you and with her ex. The ex that is your best friend that you warned never to get close enough to cross that line with. Hyde did exactly what all of us would've done looked for an outlet for our anger and sadness. And if Kelso didn't know I personally wouldve taken it to my grave and just done better by her. It was a mistake, he didn't do out of lust he did it because in his mind he was betrayed and it was essentially over. He watched his mother all his life do drugs and sleep with countless guys and leave him. Everyone left him, he was never good enough for anyone except his male friends and the foremans. I'm not excusing what he did, cuz I wouldve personally broken up with her on the spot and taken my time to move on, but he reacted within reason. And was man enough to tell her. Kelso never told Jackie, he tried to hide it every single time.
I understand why Hyde doesn’t really trust anybody, but there’s moments like this, that he has to learn to trust people close to him like his girlfriend, or else, he’ll just live in insecurity, his whole life.
Also it’s better to not cheat even if u have been cheated on. Cheating is a disgusting and immature thing and only looks bad on you. He should’ve ended it first.
Doesn't really matter. Even if he was cheated on and his reaction was to run out and bang some other girl he should have been dumped. If you are really into someone you don't run out and get with someone else the next day no matter what they do to you.
The moment Hyde said whatever but didn’t walk out was an amazing change in the character. He didn’t deserve her anymore, but it was great personal development. Also great development that Jackie stuck to her guns and wouldn’t be with a guy who cheated on her.
I love that Jackie learned from her relationship with Kelso. He cheats once and gets away with it, he's likely to do it again. She loves herself more than to tolerate that. Good for her. But poor girl, has 2 boyfriends and they both cheat on her. As angry as he was, Hyde should have done better.
I feel like the difference here is though that he does feel bad and he admits it to her. He could’ve lied to her like kelso did but he didn’t- he was hurt and he loved her so he apologized but then all of her character growth is for nothing since she comes back to kelso anyway
@@spicebaybee yeah but we don't see how they are now except for them mumbling their greatest hits. Jackie and kelso became better people as the show went on. Though given they have been married 3 times I could be wrong lol
I see the points you're raising. However, I really don't think we can justify Hyde's cheating simply because Kelso did too. It happened to her again, so she wouldn't stand for it. At the end of the show, she rejects Kelso's proposal despite her dream of getting married. Her character grows substantially by that time, and Kelso's too due to his baby. Hyde's betrayal hurts perhaps more because Hyde was there to see how much Kelso hurt her, yet Hyde did it too. She thought she found the right one twice only to be betrayed-again. Hyde should've known better. Him admitting the betrayal means nothing-he betrayed her. Yes, it's the honest thing to do, but it's done. I didn't watch the sequel yet if you were referring to that in any way, but if she ended up with Kelso, it's because of the actors being together irl.
@@wrongnumber878 I think you make some good points- my point was less that what Hyde did wasn’t wrong because it was- it was more just that they had such a good relationship until that point (unlike Jackie and Kelso whose relationship always seemed flawed to me) and I wish the situation coud have been avoided entirely. Also, I didn’t like that she goes back to Kelso despite taking this stand here. Jackie goes through so much character growth and I wish that was reflected in her finding a loving and equal partner rather than settling for Kelso.
@@spicebaybee I think it's part of the problem here-their relationship was almost perfect. That's why it hurt so much she could never give him another chance. Kelso was always a mess so nothing could surprise her anymore. Again, she would've ended up with someone else if not for the actors's real life. Maybe with Fez or Hyde(if not for his legal issue). I'm not sure if I like her going back to Kelso either. I love them in real life, but if a partner chats once and gets away with it...
You have to feel bad for Jackie the way she looks after being hurt twice. Being cheated on changes a person especially if it happens to them more than once.
You know what Michael had the most growth he came to Hyde straight up and told em like I still want her and I'm going for her and ima do the same shit you did with her in my face to you and I felt like that was straight up
I feel bad for Jackie because she fell in love with Michael and she thought he was going to be the one. Then he cheats on her and Steven is there to comfort her. then she falls in love with Steven and thinks he will be the one. Than the idiot goes and cheats on her, even though he knew how much it would hurt her. But it kind of disgusts me that when Michael cheated on Jackie, they acted like it wasn't a big deal and when Jackie cheated they acted like it was the biggest problem ever
Jackie should stand up for herself and it’s sad Hyde would do that. It’s worse considering that 90s show cause she went back to kelso who was terrible for her
Pretty sure everyone else came to this conclusion but Hyde isn't a mindless dog like Kelso 😂 If he says he isn't gonna do it again, he isn't gonna do it again.
If your first reflex after a fight is to jump in bed with someone else, the relationship is doomed. Who knows what he's gonna do next time he has doubts And more importantly, this is about self respect for Jackie
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Everyone feels bad for Jackie, and so do I, but you can see Hyde falling apart in that car. He was wrong, and knew it, but he isn't the type to cheat under most circumstances. The writers did them wrong because they were the best couple ever. And look how Jackie stood up for herself through this situation and then the new show has her and Kelso together...WHY?!!! They ruined a great character. She grew on the first 6 or 7 seasons then they had her after Fez? Why again? Then she's going to marry Kelso? Did she loose all self-respect while with Fez? Could she not get Eric to sleep with her so she could finish the group? Did the writers just hate her?
Tbf they kinda had to write Masterson out of the sequel cause of all the stuff going on in his personal life. I would have preferred Jackie to be single and successful rather than back with Kelso though, that would have been a better arc for her.
The original writers, that were writing for the first 7 seasons, intended for Jackie and Hyde to be endgame. But then they were let go or something like that and new writers and producer came in for Season 8 who hated Jackie and Hyde and decided to create the abomination that was Season 8.
You're in the minority in that opinion. They made each other grow and had better chemistry than any other couple on the show. That's why their fanbase is arguably the largest. @@alphanerd7221
Hyde definitely didn't deserve Jackie, not because Hyde is a bad guy, but more due to being emotionally immature-likely due to some past trauma with his mom. However, that doesn't give him any right to treat Jackie that way. I'm glad in the show, Jackie didn't give in like she did with Kelso; it was great character development. Unfortunately, later in the show, when she chooses Hyde, I feel like it was a step in the wrong direction. The show backtracked her character development, not letting Hyde reflect to avoid impulsively reacting negatively.
I remember Mila Kunis being the first in the intro to Season 8 and a few folks were bellyaching about it, but frankly of all the characters she had the most development
Idk if anyone could help, but a couple of years ago i listened to a song a lot that sampled that exact scene, but i cant find it anymore. Anyone know anything??
The likelihood of someone cheating on you more than once after that initial time goes up to probably 90%. I'm no angel, but after someone cheated on me, I promised myself I would not put someone thru that. It's better to find someone else and start a fresh relationship based on trust.
He isn't that bad of a friend. I mean, what was he supposed to do. Let them figure it out, and then have Jackie and Steven get mad at hi when they found out he knew. His hands were tied. And honestly, them breaking up was probably for the best
Michael was always honest about what was going on and Hyde is the one that started dating his friends ex who he knew his friend was still hung up on. Kelso is in the wrong plenty but not here.
Tbh Hyde is in the wrong here. How tf would cheating yourself fix her cheating if she was doing so? If anything why would you give up the moral high ground?
I still think they should have patched things up between her and Kelso. Her ending up with Fez is just random and weird, and Kelso really did love her…That would’ve been an amazing character arc. Good thing they both realized that in real life.
@@oscarin13 yeah but Kelso expressed extreme regret at the end and wanted her back and they didn’t even try to explore that, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re together in That 90’s Show since they’re together in real life
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Gotta feel bad for jackie, she had two boyfriends cheat on her an she learned from it, she grew as a person which i love. this is a learning moment for them all.
That 90s Show lmao yea she learned from it
@@ssj2johnson9 at least she learned from it and now is making sure her son doesn’t do what his dad did to her to his future girlfriend.
Idk she dated Fez bounced around so idk
The only good thing Fez has better than Kelso and Hyde is not cheating because think about it Fez never cheated on his girlfriends
@@texansgregory5041 well he’s still a pervert and one time mentioned he wouldn’t hesitate to sexually assault Jackie which is it’s own flavor of bad….
The thing is, I remember watching this when I was a little kid and i loved Hyde and Jackie so much. But I didn’t realize then how much Jackie truly deserved better than Hyde. He isn’t as apologetic as he should be here imo and he never said he loved her until this moment if I’m remembering correctly. I liked his character a lot but to be in a relationship these things need to change and as much progress as he made from dating Jackie it still wasn’t enough to be what she deserved. Was she a spoiled brat? Yes, but she needed someone to openly love her and trust her, which Hyde wasn’t capable of.
Hyde is a little too unfeeling compared to Jackie, she deserved better indeed!
Change is very hard, but the thing is Hyde did change on favor of Jackie and so is Jackie to Hyde. That's why you see them good as a couple. a slight change out of your comfort is alot for some people.
Lol why? Because he didn’t tell her he loved her? Lol give me a break. Love is just there, you can feel it, you don’t need to say it
She didnt want that tho cuz there was always fez lmao
@@mike47734 you do need to say it because the other person needs to hear it
the "I finally get country music" is relatable. I remember when my ex fiance and I split I heard ZBB on the radio and had a similar reaction.
Hyde can pretend to be as confident and mature as he wants, but by doing all this without confirmation nor proof all based on an assumption shows how insecure he is. 2:06 Yes he didn't knew what was going on, so he could at least waited until he knew the facts before doing anything.
He got insecure because it's Kelso, Jackie's ex that she loved so much before.
I mean be honest unless you are insecure, extremely easily manipulated and just self hating you would break up with a girl/guy that cheated on you and with her ex. The ex that is your best friend that you warned never to get close enough to cross that line with. Hyde did exactly what all of us would've done looked for an outlet for our anger and sadness.
And if Kelso didn't know I personally wouldve taken it to my grave and just done better by her. It was a mistake, he didn't do out of lust he did it because in his mind he was betrayed and it was essentially over. He watched his mother all his life do drugs and sleep with countless guys and leave him. Everyone left him, he was never good enough for anyone except his male friends and the foremans.
I'm not excusing what he did, cuz I wouldve personally broken up with her on the spot and taken my time to move on, but he reacted within reason. And was man enough to tell her. Kelso never told Jackie, he tried to hide it every single time.
I understand why Hyde doesn’t really trust anybody, but there’s moments like this, that he has to learn to trust people close to him like his girlfriend, or else, he’ll just live in insecurity, his whole life.
Also it’s better to not cheat even if u have been cheated on. Cheating is a disgusting and immature thing and only looks bad on you. He should’ve ended it first.
Doesn't really matter. Even if he was cheated on and his reaction was to run out and bang some other girl he should have been dumped. If you are really into someone you don't run out and get with someone else the next day no matter what they do to you.
The moment Hyde said whatever but didn’t walk out was an amazing change in the character. He didn’t deserve her anymore, but it was great personal development. Also great development that Jackie stuck to her guns and wouldn’t be with a guy who cheated on her.
She married kelso
@@meesteranonymous8177 season 8 and sequel is happening in a paralel universe. this is what I believe
He didn’t know that she didn’t cheated
@@meesteranonymous8177shouldn’t be surprising given that she was in a hotel room with her ex at the end of season 7.
I love that Jackie learned from her relationship with Kelso. He cheats once and gets away with it, he's likely to do it again. She loves herself more than to tolerate that. Good for her.
But poor girl, has 2 boyfriends and they both cheat on her. As angry as he was, Hyde should have done better.
I feel like the difference here is though that he does feel bad and he admits it to her. He could’ve lied to her like kelso did but he didn’t- he was hurt and he loved her so he apologized but then all of her character growth is for nothing since she comes back to kelso anyway
@@spicebaybee yeah but we don't see how they are now except for them mumbling their greatest hits. Jackie and kelso became better people as the show went on. Though given they have been married 3 times I could be wrong lol
I see the points you're raising. However, I really don't think we can justify Hyde's cheating simply because Kelso did too. It happened to her again, so she wouldn't stand for it. At the end of the show, she rejects Kelso's proposal despite her dream of getting married. Her character grows substantially by that time, and Kelso's too due to his baby. Hyde's betrayal hurts perhaps more because Hyde was there to see how much Kelso hurt her, yet Hyde did it too. She thought she found the right one twice only to be betrayed-again. Hyde should've known better. Him admitting the betrayal means nothing-he betrayed her. Yes, it's the honest thing to do, but it's done. I didn't watch the sequel yet if you were referring to that in any way, but if she ended up with Kelso, it's because of the actors being together irl.
@@wrongnumber878 I think you make some good points- my point was less that what Hyde did wasn’t wrong because it was- it was more just that they had such a good relationship until that point (unlike Jackie and Kelso whose relationship always seemed flawed to me) and I wish the situation coud have been avoided entirely. Also, I didn’t like that she goes back to Kelso despite taking this stand here. Jackie goes through so much character growth and I wish that was reflected in her finding a loving and equal partner rather than settling for Kelso.
@@spicebaybee I think it's part of the problem here-their relationship was almost perfect. That's why it hurt so much she could never give him another chance. Kelso was always a mess so nothing could surprise her anymore. Again, she would've ended up with someone else if not for the actors's real life. Maybe with Fez or Hyde(if not for his legal issue). I'm not sure if I like her going back to Kelso either. I love them in real life, but if a partner chats once and gets away with it...
Never seen Hyde act that emotional
You have to feel bad for Jackie the way she looks after being hurt twice. Being cheated on changes a person especially if it happens to them more than once.
He took his glasses off for this one.
He also did when he told her he loved her
You know what Michael had the most growth he came to Hyde straight up and told em like I still want her and I'm going for her and ima do the same shit you did with her in my face to you and I felt like that was straight up
I feel bad for Jackie because she fell in love with Michael and she thought he was going to be the one. Then he cheats on her and Steven is there to comfort her. then she falls in love with Steven and thinks he will be the one. Than the idiot goes and cheats on her, even though he knew how much it would hurt her. But it kind of disgusts me that when Michael cheated on Jackie, they acted like it wasn't a big deal and when Jackie cheated they acted like it was the biggest problem ever
Well Kelso realized that he cheated it was because Jackie made him feel stupid and bad about himself.
It was a big deal to Jackie
That's because when guys cheat, its because they need some hot action. But when girls cheat it's way worse, 'cause girls don't even like sex.
At least he was honest at the beginning, never tried to lay once about it
Jackie should stand up for herself and it’s sad Hyde would do that. It’s worse considering that 90s show cause she went back to kelso who was terrible for her
Kelso had grown as a person since then.
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@@needles1987 Yeah, a serial cheater and an idiot who abandoned his daughter. Real mature.
At least he told the truth. How many people cheat on each other and never say a word?
Even fewer will admit without being confronted about it.
I love how everyone is ok that Jackie got cheated on lol
Been there and done all that swapping girlfriends with so-called friends, in the end they’re really not ur friends when all is said and done
Depends on the click a person rolls with.
Country music got me through a bad break up
Pretty sure everyone else came to this conclusion but Hyde isn't a mindless dog like Kelso 😂
If he says he isn't gonna do it again, he isn't gonna do it again.
True, Jackie unfortunately was scarred for life by Kelso😂
It's the broken trust, Jackie has every right to break up with Hyde. Even if he may never cheat again, Jackie made her choice to leave him.
The sad thing is he didn't again
@@Palepetal she had the right, Hyde's actions doesn't negate because of the misunderstanding but there's should also be an allowance for forgiveness.
If your first reflex after a fight is to jump in bed with someone else, the relationship is doomed. Who knows what he's gonna do next time he has doubts
And more importantly, this is about self respect for Jackie
What a sad scene😭
Actually loved them as a couple
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Lol the music at the end doesn’t fit the scene.
Everyone feels bad for Jackie, and so do I, but you can see Hyde falling apart in that car. He was wrong, and knew it, but he isn't the type to cheat under most circumstances. The writers did them wrong because they were the best couple ever.
And look how Jackie stood up for herself through this situation and then the new show has her and Kelso together...WHY?!!! They ruined a great character. She grew on the first 6 or 7 seasons then they had her after Fez? Why again? Then she's going to marry Kelso? Did she loose all self-respect while with Fez? Could she not get Eric to sleep with her so she could finish the group? Did the writers just hate her?
Tbf they kinda had to write Masterson out of the sequel cause of all the stuff going on in his personal life. I would have preferred Jackie to be single and successful rather than back with Kelso though, that would have been a better arc for her.
@@nell0pe214 definitely. Hopefully, if Masterson is found not guilty, they will bring him back.
The original writers, that were writing for the first 7 seasons, intended for Jackie and Hyde to be endgame. But then they were let go or something like that and new writers and producer came in for Season 8 who hated Jackie and Hyde and decided to create the abomination that was Season 8.
They were a terrible nonsensical couple the writers through together becuase they were bored.
You're in the minority in that opinion. They made each other grow and had better chemistry than any other couple on the show. That's why their fanbase is arguably the largest. @@alphanerd7221
1:34 I think that song was released on 1991 and it’s supposed to be the 70s
The last scene always makes me so sad 😭😭
Hyde definitely didn't deserve Jackie, not because Hyde is a bad guy, but more due to being emotionally immature-likely due to some past trauma with his mom. However, that doesn't give him any right to treat Jackie that way. I'm glad in the show, Jackie didn't give in like she did with Kelso; it was great character development. Unfortunately, later in the show, when she chooses Hyde, I feel like it was a step in the wrong direction. The show backtracked her character development, not letting Hyde reflect to avoid impulsively reacting negatively.
So mad they didn't end up together
Hyde only finally said I love you to her after he cheated on her. I would've been pissed.
I hate this storyline. But Hyde screwed up reacting that way. I don't think she should have taken him back.
I remember Mila Kunis being the first in the intro to Season 8 and a few folks were bellyaching about it, but frankly of all the characters she had the most development
Didn’t they just go in alphabetical order?
@@scotts148 Yes.
Hyde should've known better 😒
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Idk if anyone could help, but a couple of years ago i listened to a song a lot that sampled that exact scene, but i cant find it anymore. Anyone know anything??
Out of the scenes this one is realistic af
The likelihood of someone cheating on you more than once after that initial time goes up to probably 90%. I'm no angel, but after someone cheated on me, I promised myself I would not put someone thru that. It's better to find someone else and start a fresh relationship based on trust.
Michael is a terrible friend lol
He’s a terrible boyfriend too
@tayladunn7490 he was good friend when Fez girlfriends parents were racist tho
He isn't that bad of a friend. I mean, what was he supposed to do. Let them figure it out, and then have Jackie and Steven get mad at hi when they found out he knew. His hands were tied. And honestly, them breaking up was probably for the best
Michael was always honest about what was going on and Hyde is the one that started dating his friends ex who he knew his friend was still hung up on. Kelso is in the wrong plenty but not here.
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Tbh Hyde is in the wrong here. How tf would cheating yourself fix her cheating if she was doing so? If anything why would you give up the moral high ground?
Jackie and Hyde are so wrong for each other. She was always trying to change him and I never cared for the opposites attract thing.
Hmmm......it was never meant to be
Agree😔
I still think they should have patched things up between her and Kelso. Her ending up with Fez is just random and weird, and Kelso really did love her…That would’ve been an amazing character arc. Good thing they both realized that in real life.
@@TheKing-qn9uc Yep not in the show but in real life
@@TheKing-qn9uc idk man kelso and Jackie were incredibly toxic with each other
@@oscarin13 yeah but Kelso expressed extreme regret at the end and wanted her back and they didn’t even try to explore that, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re together in That 90’s Show since they’re together in real life
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Why do they always cheat on eachother on this show 😂💀
Reminds me of Ross and Rachel when THEY WERE ON A BREAK
JACKIE ENDED UP MARRYING KELSO WHICH WAS ON THAT 90's SHOW
He shouldn’t have cheated on her to begin with. It was a stupid decision
stop saying jackie .. im thinking Jackie Chan
So don't watch the show, idiot
Hyde was never good with expressing his feelings
Poor Jackie