Chasing Notorious Billy the Kid. True Story Behind the Manhunt. Lawmen and Outlaws Clash.
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- True story behind one of the most notorious names from the Wild West. New books about Billy the Kid appear multiple times each year, most filled with a tired rehash of much that has been previously known about the young outlaw. Is there anything to be learned about Billy the Kid that is "new?" Yes! Historians Kurt House and Roy B. Young have found it.
In addition to uncovering new information about Billy, the book contains several rare illustrations, some of which have never before been published, as well as a unique, detailed analysis of the arms used in the Lincoln County War.
Most of what has been known about Billy the Kid's life originated with Pat Garrett's biography of him, "An Authentic Life...." However, the book was seriously misnamed and is full of errors and the self-aggrandizement of the author. As a result of Kurt House purchasing a Colt revolver formerly owned by a posse-man in the chase and capture of Billy the Kid and his gang of cattle rustlers, House and Young started an investigation into original owner, a Texas Panhandle cattle detective who went by the alias "Frank Stewart." This research project has turned old and tired stories on their head with new information, new discoveries, and the correction of false and fake history.
In early to mid-2022, a new book Chasing Billy the Kid: Frank Stewart and the Untold Story of the Manhunt for William H. Bonney will hit the shelves. Nothing like it has been published before and it turns the whole "Pat Garrett as sole champion in the capture of Billy the Kid" concept around with the truth of what really happened in New Mexico in the winter of 1880
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This is the kind of cheerful invitation to a great organization, the WWHA, that I like! Thanks, Pam, and by the way, you were a great WWHA President! Kurt House
Thanks!
I like this old timers' repartee', makes me smile. The only improvements I can suggest are the fire to be larger and that guy in the black hat is fatter than he realizes (obviously not Roy). Of course I am biased, but this outlines a great new story on a time-worn subject, since hundreds of books, some 40 or so movies and all kinds of other versions of the story have appeared in the media. I salute my co-author, thanks Roy so much! Kurt House
Are you the Kurt House who is affiliated with the Colt Collector's Association?
@@tonydeaton1967 Yes he is.
Yes, hello Tony, we probably have met at the CCA meetings? Kurt@@tonydeaton1967
Fascinating story
How do I get this book I would love to read it
How can you get a copy of the book? It doesn't seem to be on Amazon.
I will have the author reply. It should be on Amazon, as they just received the books.
New, hardcover copy of the latest book on the life of Billy the Kid, concentrating on the fall and winter 1880 chase-and-capture of Billy and the boys at Stinking Spring. 424 pp., pages 8 1/2 x 11, over 120 illustrations and documents, many never before published. Much new material. Also available: SIGNED copies; and limited edition in slipcase.
A recent take on the "Las Vegas"
tin type of Pat Garrett and others -- is that the line up
is of the posse (taken in Santa Fe) and that their names are on the photo...(.despite the claim of a date : Aug.1880.)
I think Frank Stewart 's name was said to be on the photo ?
Siringo gives Jim East's account of the capture
which wasn't end game for Canadian River as they then had John Poe check out
White Oaks ---- Prior to BTK's capture Pat had spies around
Ft Sumner but they were quiet after his escape from Lincoln : Poe's account is that it was his detective work that led to their being in Ft Sumner
14 July 1881.
Thanks Kerry for your comment. Our research concluded that the photo is a complete hoax. More later.
BTK gave East his rifle at Ft Sumner and later Stewart his horse -- perhaps because these two would ensure he got to Las Vegas alive....
Goodnight made known his high opinion of John Poe -- he may have thought simularly of Frank Stewart ....
Siringo spent time with BTK when he visited the LX
'78/'79 and liked the Kid --
Siringo may not have been at the capture ....but he and other cowboys were in Ft Sumner while BTK was at large after escaping Lincoln ....those involved in the capture were not -- according to Poe.... Pat Garrett was reluctant to go to
Ft Sumner : but just as Poe worked for Goodnight -- Pat owed his job to Chisum who may have even had another detective snooping around the town prior to Billy's " death."
Who owns the Frank Stewart's pistol now? Really interesting story..my n-laws own a tract of land up in Dumas other side of Amarillo, 475 acres. I would be willing to say put an couple of archealogist out there and no telling what could be discovered in regards to the posse etc. Moore and Green are now counties up in the pan handle by the way. Good stuff gentleman, ill get your book.
One of the authors.
Actually, as the book reveals, a PAIR of pistols was presented to Frank Stewart in January, 1881 as recorded in the Las Vegas newspapers. I purchased one in 2017, then started a search for the other one. Almost a year later, we discovered the other revolver in a very surprising situation and subsequently in 2019 we were able to unite the two Stewart pistols and photograph them together for the first time since the presentation almost 140 years before. Our book has great illustrations of the pistols. Thanks for your good question! Kurt House, Co-author
I own it one of them and a friend owns the other of the pair, they are consecutive. Kurt House
what about Daniel A Edwards book who has no skin in the game seems clear that Roberts was Billy
Roberts was not Billy.
@@WildWestHistoryAssociation
Sure about that??
I gave up trying to explain some people's behavior many years ago, especially when clear evidence of the contrary is readily available. Kurt
βTHE authentic life of Billy the kidβ
Billy the Kid probably burned the herb
Ahhh ha!
If the guns were shipped direct to Moore (early 1880) then the extravagant gift to his friend was unconnected with hunting BTK ....
No totally wrong. We have all the documentation, newspaper articles, etc.
Are you joking? The Las Vegas newspapers at the time reported "Accolades in Las Vegas" the week following the capture of BTK, stating the reason and BTK in turn presented Mrs. Scott Moore with his horse and she wrote it up in a poem in the newspaper also. After the posse reached Las Vegas with the gang, the newspaper recorded all kinds of gifts from prominent LV citizens "given in gratitude for capturing the Kid" You will get the whole picture once you read the book, that is one thing that makes the story so fascinating.
@@WildWestHistoryAssociation What a funny comment; our book quotes the Colt factory records of the date of the guns shipment. If not in gratitude for what Stewart did, then what was Moore's motive for the presentation? The Las Vegas newspapers reveal the motive; read them.
Billie died ....and Harlow went back to his dad William .... a. Senator and became one also . d 1935
stigmas dont work in true histiry
Billies pissed
@@colleenbonniwell4226 Makes no sense.
Serendipity
EXACTLY! And thanks for understanding this unusual story.
Where can I purchase the book?
It is not back from the publisher, but watch for it on Amazon.
abebooks.com/young-sons-enterprises-apache-ok or click on "sellers" at the top, go to the Y section and you'll find us under Young & Son Enterprises. Should be out in July.
Is this not Cal Polk's story.??
No, in spite of Polk claiming to have been during the capture of Billy at Stinking Spring, he was not part of the posse as verified in the records. Thanks for your good question.
I'm glad y'all shot down the idea of Brushy Bill Roberts being Billy the Kid. I'd love to hang out with you boys. I could listen to this stuff all day long. What a story.
Yes, it was a myth with no truth.
Are you sure about that?
@@charliestapleton6294 Yes.
Thanks so much, we'd love to hang out with anyone with a bona fide interest in history too!
John Greene saying he is Frank Stewart is kinda like Brushy Bill saying he is Billy the Kid. Hopefully there is some proof that wasn't presented here. Thanks for this presentation, I don't remember if I've ever heard of him. Good luck with your book.
Bless your heart, your unfair response reveals your lack of research. You should read more.
@@kurthouse744 You are kidding right? I was just watching a video, I'm not about to start researching this guy. Get real.
Oh yes, we have all the proof necessary. Thanks for your comment. Kurt
I would love to read that book. I'm glade yall stuck to the facts, I have read alot of books on Billy and get aggravated when the name bushy bill comes up because he was such a fake and takes away from the real Billy. Thank you enjoyed your discussion very much.
The book should be out soon.
Thanks so much! Like you, we are so disgusted with the ridiculous claims of the Brushy Bill story, he was not even born until after Billy died.
@@kurthouse744 Although I am not 100% convinced of Brushy Bill's claims, I believe them more than Pat Garett's claims. People who dismiss Brushy Bill have a lot of explaining to do, but never do.
What a cheap sell for a book that tells nothing new. No authentic documentation to back it up
Do you have a copy of the book?
It is fully documented, contains newly discovered material and a picture of Bowdre.
@@WildWestHistoryAssociation How can you make such a statement without seeing/reading the book? As we say in the South, "Bless your heart, you poor thing."
Correct !
β@@kurthouse744you also say in the South your mother is your sister. What's your point?
Billy cared Smith and Wesson pistols.
First time I have ever heard that, only Colts are documented to him that I know. Kurt
@@kurthouse744I too had always thought Billy preferred the top Break S&W Schofield revolvers or was that Jesse James? Hmmβ¦.
Ah, Green admits he was Frank Stewart...but Brushy Bill wasn't believable? Jesse James was believable until his death at 101, as was his niece. I considered Brushy quite credible and realistic. If he wasn't Bonnie, he was pretty close to all involved.
Bless your heart, you might consider reading the books recommended in our bibliography.
THESE GUYS LOOK ARTIFICIAL AND THE S WHISTLE IS A DEAL BREAKER.
These "Guys" as you call them are excellent historians, researchers and authors. By the way, what is a "S Whistle?"
HAW! Is this an artificial guy replying to you too? I presume you refer to my unfortunately inherited south Texas accent. Sorry you found it distracting, even if authentic.
β@WildWestHistoryAssociation the man is correct. They look artificial and frankly silly dressed up for Halloween as Sheriff Woody.