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Seems to me a lot of speculation and not much proof. And you British historians keep ignoring that there were 2 arthurs several 100 years apart. And until you come to terms with that , all the history you write is bad history. In my opinion the whole lot of you fail to mention the suppression of Welsh history That occurred in the early 1920s. And until you reconcile And resurrect true Welsh history British historians are going to continue to stumble through with the sentence," we we just don't know.." I have little sympathy for modern British historians particularly when they watch a modern war on TV and then rail about oh my God the history and culture of those people is being destroyed. Yet with a few beguiling Tricks the British government destroyed Welsh history In the very early 1920s and because of that None of British history starts to fit until 1066. I am not Welsh or British. The dark ages, what what a phrase, would be better applied to modern historians. But please feel free to keep using the phrase " We just don't know." Always makes me smile.
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They ran into issues when they couldn't come to an agreement with Tony. They searched and we are not pleased with their 'replacement'. I prefer Francis, he knows of what he speaks (most of the time)
I like that this documentary presents so many different views and angles (ha!) on the issue. We tend to oversimplify history to make it digestible but over hundreds of years all sorts of lives were lived.
True, I pulled a lot from this historical documentary, but I still think there was a medieval dark age and an Anglo-Saxon influx that caused massive cultural change and advancements.
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_ - Bertrand Russell _"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_ - Rev. Bosworth Smith
I'm American but recently found that my DNA is 98% British, so I love this. I've always been fascinated by Britain. Weirdly enough, I met my British husband online and I moved to England in 2005.
Fun fact….🙄 Most Americans are 99% Europeans. I’m almost completely Irish and Scottish by ancestry. I did my fair share of dating English guys. I’m a native Texan.
Francis Pryor is one of my favorites from the original Time Team series. He's always so enthusiastic and has such a great sense of humor (even when the jokes are at his expense).
This is a wonderful series that fully satisfies my thirst for English history. I'm American but English history is my passion. I'm so glad I found this series! THANK YOU!
Don't set to much store by. this very good series . It is very. much Frances Pryor's own view and as such rather biased . I think it has some credence , but he tends to twist things to his own theory and doesn't mention what is probably the most important thing , namely , Anglo Saxon place names and the almost 100% lack of Celtic/ British place names in England.. Yes Bede was writing 200 years after the event , but Frances is writing 1500 years after the event. The Venerable Bede gets my vote.
I'm Canadian but it intrigues me as well b/c my heritage is English/Welsh on my dad's side and Scottish on my mom's side. I am only 4th generation Canadian so my collective family is very new in Canada in the grand scheme of things. Britain holds most of my genetic history and prior to that, Scandinavia on my mom's side and Spain on my dad's side but that part of my ancestry is a VERY long time ago.
Great video. I do think you underplayed the Roman conquest. Saying, and I paraphrase, they were invited, welcome with open arms and sailed peacefully up river in order to guide the development of a diverse eutopia, goes against even Roman writing. Some tribes did absolutely. Some lived in peace with the Romans as long as they accepted Roman rules. But many fought. They conquered and ruled the southern part of the island and Rome was always heavy handed with anyone who didn't submit. Reminds me of "the life of brian" by Monty Python... "All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
like everything else these days.... everything is subjected to the neomarxist-globalist horseshit.... notice how the narrative ends with...."multiculturalism." my DNA results just returned and interestingly enough.... the DNA is massively Kelt-Viking.... they also attempt to eradicate the term "viking" although there is more than enough evidence the term predates even the identification of "Scandinavia" as such, but now the term "viking" is supposed to be another contrivance. Bullshit... Traces back as old as runic stones held inscriptions. This documentary is actually attempting to eradicate Angle-Saxon identity as if it's the confabulation of one lonely monk is bullshit. As you have already pointed out. Where did the monk's idea come from. And riddle me this.... why isn't there anything beyond generic trace evidence of Western-European / Anglo-Saxon in my DNA, at all. Obviously my Kelt-Viking forebears were not interacting with the Anglo-Saxons, "Western Europeans" on the islands, and that for 1000s of years. No trace Roman DNA... nothing. And let's not overlook the 100s of castles.... fortifications.... weaponry.... these are not signs of a happy happy island where everyone is holding hands singing kumbaya. All bullshit. They intend to take one set of myths, that most of us have accepted as myths already, with another set of myths.... the "happy happy" multicultural bullshit narrative .....
Your country's proud history of surrendering? I was taught as a child that could spot your Military by their sunburnt armpits from having their hands above their heads more often than not . just like with Britain, U.S had to stand up and carry the Allies in WW2, can't NOBODY fuck wit America. This time tho those commie fuckin chinks are gonna fuck around and find out
The "dark age" doesn't refer to a lack of skills or knowledge as implied but rather there are few written records from this era so we know very little about it.
Exactly. And why is this? Why do we have ~ 1000 years of history not documented? -While the periods before and after are very well documented. The answer is obvious, but as with many truths, they are meet with ridicule, until they will eventually become self evident. Those missing years are simply made up. Before you laugh, please do you due diligence
I love these programs...the archeologists always wear a slight smile. You can tell they are passionate about what they do and are thrilled to be sharing the information.
I have lived at the end of a jetty in a lake 30 meters from dry land for the last ten years. So far I have lost two wood saws, three knives and an axe. the water is about 1.3 meters deep. This environment is very similar to your causways. All the objects I have lost are always lost at the begining or end of the jetty. this is almost exactly what your location map shows. If you were to survey my location in a thousand years it would appear exactly as you describe your "ritual placing" but I most definatly have not placed these valuable items in the water on purpose. but like other people I have tossed coins into wells, but never tools or weapons.
Thank you for your valuable contraction to throw future historians and archeologists off the correct path. You my fellow 21st century human are playing the long game.
Francis was fantastic on Time Team, absolutely. Always fervently passionate about uncovering (literally and figuratively) the ancient ancestors, with inspired puzzle-solving of the ancient's ritual reverence for _their_ fore-fathers, and much more. He is a gift, to be sure, a positive light who jelled wonderfully with the likes of Mick (RIP and another _gift_ as well), Tony, Phil, Helen (of course) and all the rest of that great bunch. Tempted to name them all but would take a page to do it. Best show ever, perhaps ;-) Excited to watch this!
Its amazing how the world has evolved in the last 100 years than in the previous 2000 years. Just sixty years ago it was unimaginable to think of a device where you could place phone calls, see the other person, watch a movie and look at the world map. They certainly are speeding up the simulation.
Nicola Tesla predicted that 120 years ago. TV was invented 100 years ago. Dick Tracy the newspaper comic book character had his wristwatch radio 90 years ago.
Pryor's comments on Bede are themselves a classic example of a historian with an axe to grind. His language is not that of an impartial and objective critic but that of an advocate
Agree 100%. What's reassuring is not this documentary, is that so many people immediately see through this nonsense. This documentary could have been so much better if they had presented their findings within a proper context but instead attempted to force it into the contemporary mold.
Remember, these people like Pryor belong to the same institutions that now can't define a woman or think there's 57 genders. Absolutely turning everything on its head and claiming the exact opposite of reality. And he wants to re write history?
Fascinating. The more I learn about British History, the more interesting it gets. It's then a neat surprise to realize that anything before about 1780 is also part of my heritage, being an American with a good deal of British ancestry.
Even after the Roman Empire fell, many of the cities within it's borders attempted to carry on as before, alone. Without a constant influx of resources from Rome, however, eventually they all collapsed. I suspect that Britain also attempted to carry on the ways of the Romans, for as long as they could afford it, before being forced to abandon them. Without the infrastructure that the Roman Empire provided, maintaining what they built would become more and more difficult.
Exactly. They conveniently glance over the 100s of ruins strewn across the islands which _had_ become abandoned and _had_ suffered obvious signs of being sacked.... doesnt fit the narrative.
I always thought this attitude was by cities in the Italian heartland and major byzantine cities was a big reason why they were some of the most advanced, intellectual, and artistic cities/regions in europe until the early modern period or so.
The resources did not flow from Rome. It was the other way around. The leeching of British wealth from Britain to the Roman imperium stopped. The Roman roads were the arteries of that wealth extraction and the mechanism by which its armed enforcers could quickly march to co-erce that extraction. Without that infrastructure, wealth would remain local, and stay on the Island for once.
It's strange that they didn't mention the global long winters that occurred from 536 to around 550AD. It's believed that it was caused by the massive eruption of Krakatoa in Indonesia which put enough volcanic ash into the atmosphere to cover the Earth. It would make sense that people would leave continental Europe for Britain to find fish and game, as there would be less competition, if crops wouldn't be able to grow due to reduced sunlight. People would just be trying to survive an apocalyptic event rather than fight a war against invaders exactly like what the archeologists seem to believe.
@@johnwright7895 not that one, perhaps one much earlier in 535-536…but just look up “536 AD” and you will find much information and speculation on this subject.
Krakatoa has probably blown it's top several times. I think one of the other of Earth's pressure cookers got credit for 536. I'm not sure they have decided which one yet. I think the Central American cultures of that period were having concurrent problems.
I’ve been googling on ‘the worst year’ yesterday. Seems they don’t know yet which volcano caused the long winters. Other indonesian volcano’s, Iceland and a volcano in el salvador are suspects too. It also might have happened twice short after another, because 544 was another dip in temperature. I don’t think it was in indonesia, because it was inhabited back then, there were contacts with China and India. There would be discriptions of the disaster. I blame (uninhabited) iceland or New Zealand.
Great documentary! Francis Pryor is great. Unfortunately his presentation is sometimes nearly overwhelmed by the too-loud, intrusive soundtrack. I find this so often on RUclips. So annoying!
26:04 I find some of these archaeological methods interesting; we find one signet ring on the premises and say yes, definitely a wealthy Briton and not a Roman, consensus reached and problem solved. What if the ring belonged to a wealthy Briton prisoner, or found its way there by other means? It was evidently lost or left somehow at the time, so there is a possibility that it held little or no importance. Perhaps it was taken from a Briton then given as a trinket to a wealthy Roman child, who then lost it or buried the thing in the yard as treasure. Who's to say? I mean, it is probably correct, but the way these guys just jump to certain consensus that then makes definite historical record is at least questionable to me.
👏👏👏 I agree, completely. It is the same in academia and at the best universities (which I was a part of for a decade). And I love it when they are proven wrong. But it takes a new set of eyes from a different background using perhaps previously unavailable science to prove them wrong. And they don't like being wrong, so unfortunately most things, once widely accepted, are considered dogma. The world needs more ppl to ask questions and think out of the box, like you did. A dash of creativity is dangerous to any established lie.
@@delia_watercolors Yes, perhaps when one holds the degrees and it is incumbent upon them to keep in the forefront and look smart, a single ring in the dirt can serve as the basis around which to rewrite history. And, I might add, I have no degree in anything. Guys like this would tend to dismiss any input or question from me entirely upon establishing that fact. They have a club to protect.
Tbf they weren't traditionally called the "dark ages" because people thought they were uncivilised (the Georgians and Victorians actually saw it as a really high point in what they perceived as British culture, ergo the C17th-18th cult of King Arthur which grew even more in the C19th). It was called that because of the perceived lack of historical written records. Once British-based archaeology grew they began to understand the period better
I can't imagine how it would feel to be an average person, an archeologist, a historian and live in the place where most of your ancestors have lived for many, many generations. Or maybe my situation would feel stranger to them. I live in a place far from my hometown where my more recent ancestors only lived since the late 19th century. I have never visited the places across the ocean where the people before them had lived. Staring out at the earth here makes me feel strangely lonely. There is nothing for me to relate to, no one I'm at all closely related to underground. Nothing above it they left behind.
I'm the descendant of immigrant ancestors a couple of generations back, and I myself emigrated. It's lonely but you can still connect to the natural landscape if you get to know it; earth is still your home. My ancestors fled a bad situation looking for the chance at a better life, and I did the same thing. In that sense we're still connected: do your best, try to survive, be gracious and generous, do right by the people in your community, etc. I honor their motivations that way.
Seek solace in Our Lord, His Holy Catholic Church. and His divine mercy and justice. If you are young, take an older person's advice and turn away from the errors of "progress" and the slow perversion of Christian customs and traditions, and orient yourself towards goodness, truth, and beauty in service of our Lord. Then perhaps God will see you fit to marry and reestablish Christendom. You feel isolated and alone because we all are in this global, evil, usurious, greedy system that treats us like cogs in a machine instead of people. We have to reject the revolutionary evils of the Renaissance and every other sensual and prideful period that came after it (Pseudo-Reformation, French Revolution, Communism, etc) and embrace virtue through the Passion of Our Lord. Embrace the cross, it is the only way to amend your life and find comfort in this vallis lacrimarum.
Agree or not, it opens the discussion again. As a geologist, I know that a preconceived concept can shade an interpretation and often a contrary opinion is sufficient to get the conversation moving again, hopefully resulting in a more accurate depiction. Of course, this "more accurate" interpretation should then also undergo the due process of review, forever. This is the way science advances.
There is zero science at this point, they blew it, now everyone should know govt scientist are paid fools who know nothing! Period! Know this somehow...they lie through their teeth over and over and always have the world is not round. They are poisoning the air with geo engineering and no one has a clue it's poison to kill us. NASA is not a space agency, we've never even been to the moon.. nope.. didn't happen ...buzz even said so himself. Truth is widely available now. Wakeey upeee...
except if it's cliimate science, then the science is settled. or covid science. that's all been "modeled." modern academia has become hopelessly infected by idealogues, and the only ones unawre of it seem to be academics themselves. the only thing this documentary should be doing is highlighting that we are able to parse our historical roots with more specificity and provide a higher degree of nuance, but some of these conclusions are as assinine as the myths they purport to replace.
I LOVE this doc so much it makes me weepy! What a wondrous, informed, radical and hopeful perspective! So well written, so thorough in its points. Thank you.
Traced my father's family back to the 1300s in England/Britain. We are all here because our forefathers and foremothers survived the Black Plague (among many other disastrous events). Truth matters.
When they said Bede never left Tynemouth when he was established in Jarrow but also in the river Wear in Wearmouth. So what else was wrong? True Bede pushed a Roman church view but did he really invent anglo-saxons? And peaceful Romans walking in invited without opposition? Anglo Saxons not really coming? Or if some did it was a peaceful transition. And the diversity model pushed see the end... Perhaps this was a revisionist narrative. Would be interesting to hear if all other scholars and archaeologists hold to these new views of medieval life.
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This interpretation is highly spurious. Historians have been pushing back on the Dark Age narrative for a long time, so the series’ premise is not nearly as revolutionary as it presents itself. However, this particular series seems like a major overcorrection. Dr. Pryor *really* lost me with the whole “no Anglo-Saxon invasion” thing. Gildas, who was so celebrated in this very video, wrote about the Anglo-Saxon invasion in his De Excidio et Conquestu Britanniae, which quite literally means “Of the Ruin and Conquest of Britain”. So you actually must be kidding me when you say that there was no invasion. . . right??
@@SpiritmanProductions But this is a modern retelling of history by liberals. They are in STARK DENIAL that anyone ever got hurt or killed. Why, then, are there so many cruel midieval weapons in museums? My God.This doc is blatant
Firstly Gildas was writing about Saxons not Anglo-Saxons which don't exist culturally for about another 300 years after he dies. Angles were in Britain in large numbers as Roman Auxiliaries for a couple of centuries before the romans pulled out and fought alongside the Briton's against the Saxons, the Irish and the Picts. Like Britons many Angles had already converted to Christianity where as Saxons were fighting a protracted religious war against Christian expansion and oppression of pagan peoples. When the Saxons arrived in Britain they set about attacking all the churches they found including Gildas's. He then wrote a lot of anti Saxon propaganda to encourage the kings and leaders of Britain to oppose the Saxons. The fact they they completely ignored him is now taken by historians as evidence that what he wrote was not considered to be true even at the time it was written.
Swords 'given to the water'? Because they were found mostly at bridgeheads? How do we rule out battle debris, where casualties will have dropped their weapons where they fell, then have themselves been carted off for treatment or burial? And are bridgeheads, being choke points, not the most likely place to find such debris?
Many of the swords show no sign of use, so definitely not battle debris. It echoes an older practice of iron age Britain pre invasion where swords were deposited in bodies of water
@@utubrGaming somewhat, it's a little more involved than that, swords back then were certainly not coins, they were highly expensive items. More like driving an expensive car into a lake, or flooding your present day house for a dietys benevolence
@@jukeseyable I'm just thinking in terms of the relative lack of swords from Germanic societies were relegated to elaborate burial grounds, due to that not only were they generally reserved to a professional warrior class (spears and axes were for regular people since they could be used for hunting or chopping wood), but also requires a lot more skill and metalwork. It's like less of chucking a gold bar down a coin down a wishing well, and more like a solid gold bar.
@@utubrGaming I think you are mixing up your history, both in place and time. It's basically common knowledge that ancient Celtic peoples offered sacrifices (hence valuable swords) into bodies of water. It was so popular that the Romans even borrowed it from the Celts too. Also, there was such vast wealth that "chucking a gold bar" or several was no big deal to a great deal of royalty and nobility.
I visited Tintagel Castle, the historic medieval site, associated w/King Arthur situated on the clifftops in Northern Cornwall. It's one of the most breathtakingly beautiful places I've ever visited. England is very beautiful! 💓😊
Francis is an excellent narrator and has an extensive education based in prehistory mainly in Britain and the British isles. I saw one documentary where he built an ancient house using building it to size and with ancient materials and methods.
It's more than simple curiosity that motivates some and obsesses still others to learn about where they came from. Perhaps they may feel more relaxed about a consistent and stable future with one will established in their past.
1:31 - The Brits were the only ones in Europe who did not speak a romance mother tongue? Uh, Germania? One guy speaking unmitigated bullshit makes the entire program suspect.
@@chrisk1944 I can see your point in some respects. You are right, Most of the languages in Europe were not based on Latin. English was just one of the Germanic languages in Europe.
@@johnemerson1363 @chris I mean, Roma Eterna died a little with Augustus and the Tetoberg forest. And then was executed after Marcus Aurelius. From then on-it was on. And the Romans were not initially latins. And Latinos and Latinos are just culturally appropriating as they have zero ties to The original Latin League.
Beautiful, entertaining and cultivating. Amazing how this whole story is made by tiny details provided by this dedicated and passionate group of professionals seeking the truth for all of us. Really great.
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_ - Bertrand Russell _"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_ - Rev. Bosworth Smith
Good stuff, but I think the more logical assumption is that the abbeys were set up to collect tolls from people who crossed and the weapons were tossed in the water for the same reason that TSA checkpoints have a collection of pocket knives in a bucket.
It's only "logical" if you have an a priori bias against the Catholic Church as being greedy. Their first and foremost goal was to convert people, and they would not achieve that, particularly an abbey of monks without an army, by taking advantage of the local population and swindling them with tolls. Don't you think that the lords and other land-holders would have revolted against unjust buildings of abbeys if that's what they were doing? Obviously the people there let them build them, and it is illogical to think monks in the abbeys forced people to toss their weapons or pay tolls without a large security force at their disposal.
@@kyrieeleison2793 An interesting point in this video and about Ireland too is that Catholicism existed in England in pre-Saxon times sans Rome and that, in Ireland, between the time of St Patrick c.400 and the Anglo-Norman invasion 1169, Catholicism sans Rome existed in Ireland too. This invasion of Ireland had the approval of Il Papa as independent Catholicism was not in the interests of Rome. Right now, or at least before Musk and Bezos, the Vatican is the richest bank in the world. So it is greedy. What you're saying about conversion and a soft approach makes sense for political reasons but make no mistake, the Catholic Church is a political organisation. I'm not sure that's what Jesus meant it to be. They're hardly going to convert people by beating them up as kids and other unspeakable things in schools, but that's what they did. Conversely, Ireland was doing fine until the Anglo-Normans turned us to Rome and then after Henry VIII, the English realised their mistake and tried to turn us to London instead. For God's sake of course. Rome doesn't like Gnosticism either because it's too literal, and dealt with adherents of Gnosticism like fury Hell hath no, but they tell us we should take the Bible literally and disowned science when science said "Hang on a minute boss, it would seem that your book is more of a parable as it doesn't seem to reflect the complexities of what really happened." So Rome wants control. Your soft approach doesn't go against that but seeking tolls or church donations in return for easier access to life everlasting is not out of kilter either.
1:47:35 Two groups analyzing the same Y chromosomal data come up with conflicting interpretations. Speaking as a biochemist, I'd have been surprised if they hadn't. Small differences in how the statistical analysis is set up can yield wildly different results. There's very little more inscrutable than listening to geneticists argue!
They weigh about 4 pounds. During my days as a mediaeval re-enactor (not anymore, it is a young persons game!) we found that the swords, nicely counterbalanced by the pommel at the end of the handle, were very easy to use. And because ours were not edged, they actually weighd a few ounces more than the originals.
Guy walking on top of history, everytime he took a step on the walls he was kicking parts of the rock walls off. I would think he would have loved the remains enough to know doing this erodes the relics unaturally.. i do love the info this channel put out tho. Alot of time and work goes into giving us the past .. good job👏🏻👍did love the finding of the swords and metal relics. When i see something like that i always wondered how the past owners would have felt holding their swords..and the giving back of them to the water makes sense..
I totally agree . I was literally crying! Crying my eyes out watching him desecrate the sacred ancient walls of Britain. I can hardly get myself together to type this but I'm donating 1,000 dollars to gofundme and raising money to build fences around the walls so this can't happen ever again.
Weren't those walls built to be walked upon? Anything that was removable would be gone in the first hundred years. If anything is being kicked off, it is recently acquired dust and plant growth.
Accept that he is LYING. Retelling Britain's history through a modern liberal lense, saying all those Viking murders and invasions and theft was just sweet, happy 'immigration'. And lying about how Britts didn't mind being wiped out in their own land by elite Anglo-Saxons who were given their land and who RULED OVER the natives, forced them to give up their language, culture and religion. It was all just happy 'migration' which people accepted. Noone suffered. LIBERAL LIES.
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_ - Bertrand Russell _"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_ - Rev. Bosworth Smith
@@johndoeiii9767 Amazing is the book that guided the uncivilized nomads of Arabia and Africa to unravel the physical and metaphysical dimensions of Men and the universe.
So the arrow shaft was "offered" to the river (as a pure guess) and not dropped, or thrown away?..or indeed used for fishing? I do love history, and get into it in some depth, but i am starting to get fed up with one historian coming up with his own guesses, to debunk another historian's guesses. This really does piss me off i have to say.
Man has been giving offerings to the gods since time began. The God's would be offended or not grant their wishes if they offered anything but their most treasured possessions.
Just a sailor reading ship novels stuff . I NOTICED the same thing when, I forget his name does learned English the same way and it was impecable English. He was a Polish guy who wrote in the 1860 area.
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_ - Bertrand Russell _"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_ - Rev. Bosworth Smith
Still barely into the documentary, but incredibly enlightening. I'm not sure how the history is taught in Great Britain, but in The US, The Dark Ages are called a barbaric time, but so much architecture and art comes out of that period, so much so that we study it. Perhaps "Dark" here is like the "dark" in dark matter, that which bends towards Light. No wait, magnifies light?
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_ - Bertrand Russell _"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_ - Rev. Bosworth Smith
Metal, especially higher quality metal used in swords was a highly valued commodity that required a lot of labor and resources to produce. I find it unlikely that people were just constantly using them as religious offerings at causeways. A decent sword would have been a highly prized item, often pased down through generations. A broken or damaged sword would have been recycled or repaired.
@@scottmcr8018 People underestimate normal human behavior, and archeologists are among the worst at doing so. Like you point out, if you didn't want your weapons confiscated, you dumped 'em in the river. Sometimes, the river floods, and you lose it, or a man dies and the location dies with him. More likely than tossing expensive items to the gods.
Aside from direct offerings to the river or fenland, is it possible they were deposited with their owners or as offerings with their owners to the water, wetland, swamp with inhumations since lost or dispersed through the very active fluvial and biological taphonomic processes found in riverine and wetland environments?
@@edwigcarol4888 I think that historical accounts can be helpful but problematic and we don't always have them that far back. It seems reasonable to me that people would have been sent off with the tools they might need in the next life, like in many cultures throughout the world. It makes less sense to me that these works requiring wealth and time would have been thrown off into the river/void. Of course I am disconnected from these practices by thousands of years but the human and archaeologist in me hints that these were send-offs, particularly if these offerings were made by smaller communities where the value in these works could just have easily been diverted to other needs. No answer is likely forth coming unless we identify a depositional oxbow perfectly situated to provide the right burial and preservation conditions. Questions are most always worth asking.
A 'time of creativity and progress' does not neccessarily mean that the times were not dark. In 380 AD ordinary people were literate to a degree. Many people and even animals lived under tiled roofs, one could send a letter from York to Damascus , and ordinary people had access to an array of mass produced household items. 50 years later all that had gone. It may have been an intersting time in which a lot of stuff happened, but people like Gregory of Tours, and Gildas, are testament to the fact that generations before their births, society was much more secure and prosperous. The crude pottery and the urban decline during this period is also very marked. Pottery of reasonable quality, and coin use may not have ended bang on or after 410, but by 600 when the historical record re-opens, all this had gone, and things would not start to turn upwards until about 800. Interesting stuff may have happened and buildings (albeit timber and thatch, not stone and tile) put up, but to whose name do we attach them? Isn't this is why they were called 'Dark Ages' in the first place? The Greek Dark Age (1100 BC - 750 BC) and the Byzantine Dark Age (650 - 900) were not wholly 'dark', but the term is a convenient shorthand for a period which is definitely poorer, less well documented, and less prosperous than what went before, and which ushered out the 'old order'.
Yes, this is the quite obvious correct interpretation. However, upending established historiography based on scant evidence has a certain appeal for PhD students looking for a name for themselves.
Sutton Hoo was discovered by a very experienced, self-taught archaeologist named Basil Brown who was recommended to the landowner by the Ipswich Museum. Cambridge University didn't "Help", they helped themselves. As soon as they heard there may have been a discovery of some importance, they took over and took credit. Within a week Basil Brown was reduced to the status of a porter, within two he was banned from the site altogether. Helen Geake failed to mention him because she works for Cambridge University. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a condition for her doing this documentary, that she wasn't allowed to mention "You know who". It's amazing what some people will do to get just a few more minutes on TV.
That is really disgusting. I will remember Basil Brown whenever I think of this discovery and pass it on whenever I discuss the topic. I'm only one person, but maybe someone can write about it.
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If the sword in the stone was really a byproduct of stone molds for a bronze sword then the blacksmiths would've been absolutely legendary. What a funny theory.
I was thinking something similar, it kinda caught at that part. I'd say that in the recesses of my subconscious, I believe in the legends of King Arthur. So much art and archeology come out of this time with this mythical figure and something nudges me that it's the truth of his existence that got lost.
The new archaeological evidence provides a basis upon which we can make more assumptions. I don't find the argument that the Britons were so enamoured with the culture and language of a few Anglo-Saxon itinerants that they decided to adopt it and to the extent that the whole country was subsumed by it. What about the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle - written at the end of the 9th century - who wrote that?
It's obvious The Victorian, covered up and whitewashed the history. They're called it the Dark ages because it was a multicultural society and vast middle east trade. The evidences are in the The book called Jacobite Gleanings From State Manuscripts by J. Macbeth Forbes and Memoirs of the Secret Service of John Mackey, Esq, During the Reigns of King William, Queen Anne, and King George 1.
This is an utterly fascinating documentary. I watched the entire thing totally mesmerized by the cohesive, cogent, and accessible narrative. Thank you for posting this!! At ~1:55:00 ... Wouldn't their job have been easier with lidar on a drone or small aircraft rather than walking up and down?
@@moonburn8156 Sorry. Actually, I don't really agree with the author's premises. You can't just disregard people like Nennius, Gildan and Bede who were closer to the events than we and may have had access to unknown original sources since lost to us. I find it hard to believe that the fortifications on the Saxon shore were constructed in such strong nature as to serve merely as storage units. At the same time the points he makes about the "Dark Ages" makes sense to me. They were in a good part,but not exclusively, dark because of a lack of records. This may have been due to viking destruction, Henry VIII's destruction of the monasteries, and the activities of Oliver Cromwell and his religious fanatics.
this is just wonderful, everything that an educational show should be. I really adore the gentlemanly debate at around 1hr 43! i will watch again and again!
A causeway would be a quite natural place to simply store a cache of weapons. If I were to throw a sword into the water as a ceremonial bit I'm not sure I'd pick a bridge. Also, cri.inals drop weapons from bridges , have been for centuries.
If Saxon's weren't invaders, then why was there multiple saxon kingdoms? Why is Alfred the Great called a Saxon instead of celtic Britanic king? Did I miss something in this video? Did the local brits just lay down and say hey your king is our king?
i really enjoyed the first half. the second half was way off-base though. modern geneticts has proven the Anglo-Saxon replacement of native Britons (outside of Wales, Cornwall & Scotland of course). this documentary fights against it while at times supporting it. "ax to grind" indeed!!
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_ - Bertrand Russell _"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_ - Rev. Bosworth Smith
Excellent Series. So interesting with learned authorities explaining in language anyone could understand. I'm not sure how they arrive at all their conclusions but the theories put together alongside the archeological finds are fascinating. Whatever the truth, it's clear that we have some amazing artefacts that, in themselves, are just amazing
I have often wondered if the sword from the stone was in fact made from meteoritic iron. Tutankhamen's tomb contained such a dagger. The weapon was high in nickel and such "Skystone" swords do not rust as easily.
I just learned something, I've never known 🥇thank you! This is why I love these documentaries..., So much information is given from the audience. Thank you again
meteoric steel in a time when most swards were of poorer iron or bronze really gives the idea. "A sword descended from the heavens, like given from the gods, able to smite every foe, pierce through armour and break other blades in half" Basically a great explanation behind swords of legends.
@@60toodles Any legend springs from some actual fact, spread by word of mouth, overheard by distant people, changed, transformed into fabulous tales and then partially forgotten. It wouldn't be so strange if a rare and precious sword would be passed from generation to generation, given a name and accompanied by a legend on its origins, then lost and turned into a tale to tell, even without thinking of kings of Britain, magical stones, predestined knights and such.
There is a certain part of the musical score that sounds like its taken from Rachmanioff's C# Prelude. At about 50:20, the decending line - it sounds like its from page 2 of the C# Prelude. Happens several other times too
The Dark Ages were called "dark" because historians in the 19th century did not have much information or artifacts of the age, hence their knowledge was "dark".
@@reeseprince8 Sort of. They've got plenty of artifacts, archaeology etc, just not so much in the form of written documentation. It's specific to written documentation. Hence 'Dark age'
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Seems to me a lot of speculation and not much proof. And you British historians keep ignoring that there were 2 arthurs several 100 years apart. And until you come to terms with that , all the history you write is bad history. In my opinion the whole lot of you fail to mention the suppression of Welsh history That occurred in the early 1920s. And until you reconcile And resurrect true Welsh history British historians are going to continue to stumble through with the sentence," we we just don't know.." I have little sympathy for modern British historians particularly when they watch a modern war on TV and then rail about oh my God the history and culture of those people is being destroyed. Yet with a few beguiling Tricks the British government destroyed Welsh history In the very early 1920s and because of that None of British history starts to fit until 1066. I am not Welsh or British. The dark ages, what what a phrase, would be better applied to modern historians. But please feel free to keep using the phrase " We just don't know." Always makes me smile.
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I wish the History Channel would go back to airing history again
I'm with you on that.
SERIOUSLY!
Why ? It would just be full of more lies about things that did not really happen by people who most likely did not even exist,... Right youtube ???
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They ran into issues when they couldn't come to an agreement with Tony. They searched and we are not pleased with their 'replacement'. I prefer Francis, he knows of what he speaks (most of the time)
I like that this documentary presents so many different views and angles (ha!) on the issue. We tend to oversimplify history to make it digestible but over hundreds of years all sorts of lives were lived.
True, I pulled a lot from this historical documentary, but I still think there was a medieval dark age and an Anglo-Saxon influx that caused massive cultural change and advancements.
Documentary makers used to be journalists, and they told the truth wherever the truth lead them. Nowadays its all biased and pushing an agenda.
Francis’s pure joy in what he does is INFECTIOUS
YESSS I love him!!!
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These are the types of documentaries I live for! Ancient and Medieval European history is absolutely captivating. Can't get enough of it 🙏🏾
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_
- Bertrand Russell
_"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_
- Rev. Bosworth Smith
Rome owned the shit out of ancient Britain. Same way America owns them today. 🥴🤷♂️
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I studied Medieval, Roman and Greek history at the University and I think it was the best choice of my student life !!
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I'm American but recently found that my DNA is 98% British, so I love this. I've always been fascinated by Britain. Weirdly enough, I met my British husband online and I moved to England in 2005.
Bet your sorry now you moved here..
I had my DNA done and im only 95.3% 4.7% iberian
Fun fact….🙄 Most Americans are 99% Europeans. I’m almost completely Irish and Scottish by ancestry. I did my fair share of dating English guys. I’m a native Texan.
@@Sabbathissaturday I'm aware, but I'm talking about the region I come from. I'm not Norwegian or French, I'm British
@@paigemprice welcome home 🇬🇧❤️
Francis Pryor is one of my favorites from the original Time Team series. He's always so enthusiastic and has such a great sense of humor (even when the jokes are at his expense).
"It's Ritual, Tony!"
@@morrigan191 I haven't been watching the return of TT. How good can it be without Phil?
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@@amymack1954 And Tony. I appreciate the fact that a lot of the original team is back but the camaraderie is not the same.
He's going on 80 years old now and retired. cheers
“When the nation is in its greatest peril”. We need Arthur fast!
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This is a wonderful series that fully satisfies my thirst for English history. I'm American but English history is my passion. I'm so glad I found this series! THANK YOU!
Glad you find joy in our rich History...I do too..but have deep concerns for its future.
Much love
Don't set to much store by. this very good series . It is very. much Frances Pryor's own view and as such rather biased . I think it has some credence , but he tends to twist things to his own theory and doesn't mention what is probably the most important thing , namely , Anglo Saxon place names and the almost 100% lack of Celtic/ British place names in England.. Yes Bede was writing 200 years after the event , but Frances is writing 1500 years after the event. The Venerable Bede gets my vote.
English history is American history America didn’t just appear one day
I'm Canadian but it intrigues me as well b/c my heritage is English/Welsh on my dad's side and Scottish on my mom's side. I am only 4th generation Canadian so my collective family is very new in Canada in the grand scheme of things. Britain holds most of my genetic history and prior to that, Scandinavia on my mom's side and Spain on my dad's side but that part of my ancestry is a VERY long time ago.
English history starts 500 years later this is Welsh history 😊
This is EXCELLENT! After 2 hours and 25 minutes, I didn't want it to end! I will be watching it for a second time. THANK YOU, thank you!
I’m waiting on Part 2.
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Great video. I do think you underplayed the Roman conquest. Saying, and I paraphrase, they were invited, welcome with open arms and sailed peacefully up river in order to guide the development of a diverse eutopia, goes against even Roman writing. Some tribes did absolutely. Some lived in peace with the Romans as long as they accepted Roman rules. But many fought. They conquered and ruled the southern part of the island and Rome was always heavy handed with anyone who didn't submit. Reminds me of "the life of brian" by Monty Python... "All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"
like everything else these days.... everything is subjected to the neomarxist-globalist horseshit.... notice how the narrative ends with...."multiculturalism." my DNA results just returned and interestingly enough.... the DNA is massively Kelt-Viking.... they also attempt to eradicate the term "viking" although there is more than enough evidence the term predates even the identification of "Scandinavia" as such, but now the term "viking" is supposed to be another contrivance. Bullshit... Traces back as old as runic stones held inscriptions.
This documentary is actually attempting to eradicate Angle-Saxon identity as if it's the confabulation of one lonely monk is bullshit. As you have already pointed out. Where did the monk's idea come from. And riddle me this.... why isn't there anything beyond generic trace evidence of Western-European / Anglo-Saxon in my DNA, at all. Obviously my Kelt-Viking forebears were not interacting with the Anglo-Saxons, "Western Europeans" on the islands, and that for 1000s of years. No trace Roman DNA... nothing.
And let's not overlook the 100s of castles.... fortifications.... weaponry.... these are not signs of a happy happy island where everyone is holding hands singing kumbaya. All bullshit. They intend to take one set of myths, that most of us have accepted as myths already, with another set of myths.... the "happy happy" multicultural bullshit narrative .....
Alot of these videos were made in the time of tony blare and it shows
That is a very good argument. Some might have invited them, some might have fought them.
@@realtalunkarku Did you mean Tony Blair?
@@HappyBeezerStudios Can’t imagine anyone inviting them. No one invites conquest.
Francis is my favourite..he investigates our history that others so happily hide. What a magnificent (true) history we have!
Your country's proud history of surrendering? I was taught as a child that could spot your Military by their sunburnt armpits from having their hands above their heads more often than not . just like with Britain, U.S had to stand up and carry the Allies in WW2, can't NOBODY fuck wit America. This time tho those commie fuckin chinks are gonna fuck around and find out
The "dark age" doesn't refer to a lack of skills or knowledge as implied but rather there are few written records from this era so we know very little about it.
Yeah, but ... wouldn't have been sheeite living then
The Bible was locked up by Roman Catholic to the public.
Of COURSE it does! What an idiotic statement.
Exactly. And why is this? Why do we have ~ 1000 years of history not documented? -While the periods before and after are very well documented. The answer is obvious, but as with many truths, they are meet with ridicule, until they will eventually become self evident.
Those missing years are simply made up. Before you laugh, please do you due diligence
@@diligencehumility6971 A thousand years was made up for what purpose?
I love these programs...the archeologists always wear a slight smile. You can tell they are passionate about what they do and are thrilled to be sharing the information.
Gotta watch Philomena Cunk then! You can thank me later :)
@@christianstark2381rehashed Ali G, totally unoriginal, terribly acted and only on the TV due to quotas.
It’s Ali G but nowhere near as clever
0:47 Archaeology has strong evidence that the living- and manufacturing standards declined significantly after the Romans left.
I have lived at the end of a jetty in a lake 30 meters from dry land for the last ten years. So far I have lost two wood saws, three knives and an axe. the water is about 1.3 meters deep.
This environment is very similar to your causways. All the objects I have lost are always lost at the begining or end of the jetty.
this is almost exactly what your location map shows.
If you were to survey my location in a thousand years it would appear exactly as you describe your "ritual placing" but I most definatly have not placed these valuable items in the water on purpose.
but like other people I have tossed coins into wells, but never tools or weapons.
Thank you for your valuable contraction to throw future historians and archeologists off the correct path. You my fellow 21st century human are playing the long game.
Why not swim down n pick up your tools?? Or is the water too murky?
Weird seeing Francis do something other than time team, but I love it! He’s always so excited about history, it’s contagious!
Thank you! Was trying to place him.
Helen Geake, too :)
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Francis was fantastic on Time Team, absolutely. Always fervently passionate about uncovering (literally and figuratively) the ancient ancestors, with inspired puzzle-solving of the ancient's ritual reverence for _their_ fore-fathers, and much more.
He is a gift, to be sure, a positive light who jelled wonderfully with the likes of Mick (RIP and another _gift_ as well), Tony, Phil, Helen (of course) and all the rest of that great bunch. Tempted to name them all but would take a page to do it.
Best show ever, perhaps ;-) Excited to watch this!
I kept expecting to see Phil Harding and Tony come through arguing 🤣
Its amazing how the world has evolved in the last 100 years than in the previous 2000 years. Just sixty years ago it was unimaginable to think of a device where you could place phone calls, see the other person, watch a movie and look at the world map. They certainly are speeding up the simulation.
Advanced in technology. But lost the fear of God. Where's the progress?
@@christinapsalmist4267fear of God was strongest in the Dark ages. Were they preferable to today's quality of life (and death)?
Nicola Tesla predicted that 120 years ago. TV was invented 100 years ago. Dick Tracy the newspaper comic book character had his wristwatch radio 90 years ago.
@@christinapsalmist4267 true
Yet, inversely, people are becoming increasingly stupid
Pryor's comments on Bede are themselves a classic example of a historian with an axe to grind. His language is not that of an impartial and objective critic but that of an advocate
Agree 100%. What's reassuring is not this documentary, is that so many people immediately see through this nonsense. This documentary could have been so much better if they had presented their findings within a proper context but instead attempted to force it into the contemporary mold.
Remember, these people like Pryor belong to the same institutions that now can't define a woman or think there's 57 genders. Absolutely turning everything on its head and claiming the exact opposite of reality. And he wants to re write history?
Anytime the author is a religious figure, the document is suspect.
Great documentary! Glad it was the whole series on one video! I love that I didn't have to hunt for the entire series!
Fascinating. The more I learn about British History, the more interesting it gets. It's then a neat surprise to realize that anything before about 1780 is also part of my heritage, being an American with a good deal of British ancestry.
Even after the Roman Empire fell, many of the cities within it's borders attempted to carry on as before, alone. Without a constant influx of resources from Rome, however, eventually they all collapsed. I suspect that Britain also attempted to carry on the ways of the Romans, for as long as they could afford it, before being forced to abandon them. Without the infrastructure that the Roman Empire provided, maintaining what they built would become more and more difficult.
Exactly. They conveniently glance over the 100s of ruins strewn across the islands which _had_ become abandoned and _had_ suffered obvious signs of being sacked.... doesnt fit the narrative.
I always thought this attitude was by cities in the Italian heartland and major byzantine cities was a big reason why they were some of the most advanced, intellectual, and artistic cities/regions in europe until the early modern period or so.
The resources did not flow from Rome. It was the other way around. The leeching of British wealth from Britain to the Roman imperium stopped. The Roman roads were the arteries of that wealth extraction and the mechanism by which its armed enforcers could quickly march to co-erce that extraction. Without that infrastructure, wealth would remain local, and stay on the Island for once.
@@neilog747 You have a GDP of like $3 trillion, there's not that much wealth to leech my dude.
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And how big is Italy's economy, my dude? The UK has the 5th biggest economy in the world. I'd say that's pretty wealthy.
It's strange that they didn't mention the global long winters that occurred from 536 to around 550AD. It's believed that it was caused by the massive eruption of Krakatoa in Indonesia which put enough volcanic ash into the atmosphere to cover the Earth. It would make sense that people would leave continental Europe for Britain to find fish and game, as there would be less competition, if crops wouldn't be able to grow due to reduced sunlight. People would just be trying to survive an apocalyptic event rather than fight a war against invaders exactly like what the archeologists seem to believe.
Krakatoa eruption 1883?
@@johnwright7895 not that one, perhaps one much earlier in 535-536…but just look up “536 AD” and you will find much information and speculation on this subject.
Krakatoa has probably blown it's top several times. I think one of the other of Earth's pressure cookers got credit for 536. I'm not sure they have decided which one yet.
I think the Central American cultures of that period were having concurrent problems.
I’ve been googling on ‘the worst year’ yesterday. Seems they don’t know yet which volcano caused the long winters. Other indonesian volcano’s, Iceland and a volcano in el salvador are suspects too. It also might have happened twice short after another, because 544 was another dip in temperature.
I don’t think it was in indonesia, because it was inhabited back then, there were contacts with China and India. There would be discriptions of the disaster. I blame (uninhabited) iceland or New Zealand.
I was just thinking about how it was probably called "dark ages" because of this event
How do they keep all those fields of grass cut so well?
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Great documentary! Francis Pryor is great. Unfortunately his presentation is sometimes nearly overwhelmed by the too-loud, intrusive soundtrack. I find this so often on RUclips. So annoying!
Agreed
really?! the soundtrack is the problem??!!
That’s a weird annoying soundtrack For more feeling to mess with the motions maybe to get people not to watch it
It's nothing to do with RUclips.....
It's bad editors....
@@NicTheGreek1979 I'm sure you are right!
26:04 I find some of these archaeological methods interesting; we find one signet ring on the premises and say yes, definitely a wealthy Briton and not a Roman, consensus reached and problem solved. What if the ring belonged to a wealthy Briton prisoner, or found its way there by other means? It was evidently lost or left somehow at the time, so there is a possibility that it held little or no importance. Perhaps it was taken from a Briton then given as a trinket to a wealthy Roman child, who then lost it or buried the thing in the yard as treasure. Who's to say? I mean, it is probably correct, but the way these guys just jump to certain consensus that then makes definite historical record is at least questionable to me.
👏👏👏 I agree, completely. It is the same in academia and at the best universities (which I was a part of for a decade). And I love it when they are proven wrong. But it takes a new set of eyes from a different background using perhaps previously unavailable science to prove them wrong. And they don't like being wrong, so unfortunately most things, once widely accepted, are considered dogma. The world needs more ppl to ask questions and think out of the box, like you did. A dash of creativity is dangerous to any established lie.
This man has an agenda that is driving his hypothesis rather than the facts. This is very questionable "history".
I agree. Just because the stories we tell ourselves make sense... does not mean that those stories are true and accurate.
@@delia_watercolors Yes, perhaps when one holds the degrees and it is incumbent upon them to keep in the forefront and look smart, a single ring in the dirt can serve as the basis around which to rewrite history. And, I might add, I have no degree in anything. Guys like this would tend to dismiss any input or question from me entirely upon establishing that fact. They have a club to protect.
Apparently it was ceremonial in nature, part of some ritual.
Tbf they weren't traditionally called the "dark ages" because people thought they were uncivilised (the Georgians and Victorians actually saw it as a really high point in what they perceived as British culture, ergo the C17th-18th cult of King Arthur which grew even more in the C19th). It was called that because of the perceived lack of historical written records. Once British-based archaeology grew they began to understand the period better
I can't imagine how it would feel to be an average person, an archeologist, a historian and live in the place where most of your ancestors have lived for many, many generations. Or maybe my situation would feel stranger to them. I live in a place far from my hometown where my more recent ancestors only lived since the late 19th century. I have never visited the places across the ocean where the people before them had lived. Staring out at the earth here makes me feel strangely lonely. There is nothing for me to relate to, no one I'm at all closely related to underground. Nothing above it they left behind.
I'm the descendant of immigrant ancestors a couple of generations back, and I myself emigrated. It's lonely but you can still connect to the natural landscape if you get to know it; earth is still your home. My ancestors fled a bad situation looking for the chance at a better life, and I did the same thing. In that sense we're still connected: do your best, try to survive, be gracious and generous, do right by the people in your community, etc. I honor their motivations that way.
Seek solace in Our Lord, His Holy Catholic Church. and His divine mercy and justice. If you are young, take an older person's advice and turn away from the errors of "progress" and the slow perversion of Christian customs and traditions, and orient yourself towards goodness, truth, and beauty in service of our Lord. Then perhaps God will see you fit to marry and reestablish Christendom. You feel isolated and alone because we all are in this global, evil, usurious, greedy system that treats us like cogs in a machine instead of people. We have to reject the revolutionary evils of the Renaissance and every other sensual and prideful period that came after it (Pseudo-Reformation, French Revolution, Communism, etc) and embrace virtue through the Passion of Our Lord. Embrace the cross, it is the only way to amend your life and find comfort in this vallis lacrimarum.
@@kyrieeleison2793 Oh yes, please do seek solace in the Catholic Church.......which preys on little boys and girls.
@@kyrieeleison2793 Leave your proselytizing out of it. Matthew 6:1-6, keep your faith to yourself.
@@DeborahRosen99 Basic English, yet you've completely misinterpreted Matt 6:1-6. Keep your nastiness and envy to yourself, dear.
Agree or not, it opens the discussion again. As a geologist, I know that a preconceived concept can shade an interpretation and often a contrary opinion is sufficient to get the conversation moving again, hopefully resulting in a more accurate depiction. Of course, this "more accurate" interpretation should then also undergo the due process of review, forever. This is the way science advances.
Yessss ‼️ BRAVO ‼️
There is zero science at this point, they blew it, now everyone should know govt scientist are paid fools who know nothing! Period! Know this somehow...they lie through their teeth over and over and always have the world is not round. They are poisoning the air with geo engineering and no one has a clue it's poison to kill us. NASA is not a space agency, we've never even been to the moon.. nope.. didn't happen ...buzz even said so himself. Truth is widely available now. Wakeey upeee...
Sorry
@@colechislett4622 sorry why??
except if it's cliimate science, then the science is settled. or covid science. that's all been "modeled."
modern academia has become hopelessly infected by idealogues, and the only ones unawre of it seem to be academics themselves. the only thing this documentary should be doing is highlighting that we are able to parse our historical roots with more specificity and provide a higher degree of nuance, but some of these conclusions are as assinine as the myths they purport to replace.
I LOVE this doc so much it makes me weepy! What a wondrous, informed, radical and hopeful perspective! So well written, so thorough in its points. Thank you.
Traced my father's family back to the 1300s in England/Britain. We are all here because our forefathers and foremothers survived the Black Plague (among many other disastrous events). Truth matters.
Remember, diversity is our strength, folks.
Yea, nobody wants pure gold.
@@suziecreamcheese211 Pure gold is too soft to use for anything, even jewellery. It needs to be alloyed with another, harder metal, like nickle.
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Nonsense
When they said Bede never left Tynemouth when he was established in Jarrow but also in the river Wear in Wearmouth. So what else was wrong? True Bede pushed a Roman church view but did he really invent anglo-saxons? And peaceful Romans walking in invited without opposition? Anglo Saxons not really coming? Or if some did it was a peaceful transition. And the diversity model pushed see the end... Perhaps this was a revisionist narrative. Would be interesting to hear if all other scholars and archaeologists hold to these new views of medieval life.
I like to imagine that Arthur was the “spirit” of Ancient Britain. When needed, this spirit can be awakened.
Wow! Mental health is a big issue these days. May want to get checked out.
@@nielgregory108 it’s called faith. 😂
No mental health issue here.
Francis is great at making these documentaries.. not the usual take on history 👏🙏
SUCH A INTERESTING DOCUMENTORY OVER THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.... SUCH BEAUTIFUL SCENERY
BECKY 😊😊
Those that abuse capital letters not only emphasise nothing but the hysteria of the abuser, they also declare the abuser to be a lunatic
Abusers abuse all sorts, who or what remains to be seen or prosecuted.self -abuse like abusing capital letters is like masturbation generally best not done in public.
This interpretation is highly spurious. Historians have been pushing back on the Dark Age narrative for a long time, so the series’ premise is not nearly as revolutionary as it presents itself. However, this particular series seems like a major overcorrection. Dr. Pryor *really* lost me with the whole “no Anglo-Saxon invasion” thing. Gildas, who was so celebrated in this very video, wrote about the Anglo-Saxon invasion in his De Excidio et Conquestu Britanniae, which quite literally means “Of the Ruin and Conquest of Britain”. So you actually must be kidding me when you say that there was no invasion. . . right??
I haven't got the appetite for a detailed discussion, but one crucial fact is worth bearing in mind: History was almost always written by the winner.
welcome to the neomarxist invasion and conquest of our history
@@SpiritmanProductions But this is a modern retelling of history by liberals. They are in STARK DENIAL that anyone ever got hurt or killed. Why, then, are there so many cruel midieval weapons in museums? My God.This doc is blatant
Firstly Gildas was writing about Saxons not Anglo-Saxons which don't exist culturally for about another 300 years after he dies. Angles were in Britain in large numbers as Roman Auxiliaries for a couple of centuries before the romans pulled out and fought alongside the Briton's against the Saxons, the Irish and the Picts. Like Britons many Angles had already converted to Christianity where as Saxons were fighting a protracted religious war against Christian expansion and oppression of pagan peoples. When the Saxons arrived in Britain they set about attacking all the churches they found including Gildas's. He then wrote a lot of anti Saxon propaganda to encourage the kings and leaders of Britain to oppose the Saxons. The fact they they completely ignored him is now taken by historians as evidence that what he wrote was not considered to be true even at the time it was written.
Yes, this whole thing is bad history. Unfortunately bad history is now the mainstream even in academic circles.
Swords 'given to the water'? Because they were found mostly at bridgeheads? How do we rule out battle debris, where casualties will have dropped their weapons where they fell, then have themselves been carted off for treatment or burial? And are bridgeheads, being choke points, not the most likely place to find such debris?
Many of the swords show no sign of use, so definitely not battle debris. It echoes an older practice of iron age Britain pre invasion where swords were deposited in bodies of water
@@jukeseyable It's like throwing in a coin to a wishing well or fountain for luck.
But you know, swords are status symbols.
@@utubrGaming somewhat, it's a little more involved than that, swords back then were certainly not coins, they were highly expensive items. More like driving an expensive car into a lake, or flooding your present day house for a dietys benevolence
@@jukeseyable I'm just thinking in terms of the relative lack of swords from Germanic societies were relegated to elaborate burial grounds, due to that not only were they generally reserved to a professional warrior class (spears and axes were for regular people since they could be used for hunting or chopping wood), but also requires a lot more skill and metalwork.
It's like less of chucking a gold bar down a coin down a wishing well, and more like a solid gold bar.
@@utubrGaming I think you are mixing up your history, both in place and time. It's basically common knowledge that ancient Celtic peoples offered sacrifices (hence valuable swords) into bodies of water. It was so popular that the Romans even borrowed it from the Celts too. Also, there was such vast wealth that "chucking a gold bar" or several was no big deal to a great deal of royalty and nobility.
Amazing to learn, at my age, that the Dark Ages were not even close to dark, as far as many kinds of knowledge! Then again, I love learning!
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It was horribly dark. U have no idea
Absolutely wonderful!!! I was obsessed with stories of King Arthur and The Dark Ages.
I visited Tintagel Castle, the historic medieval site, associated w/King Arthur situated on the clifftops in Northern Cornwall. It's one of the most breathtakingly beautiful places I've ever visited. England is very beautiful! 💓😊
A green and pleasant land!
Those who do not remember the past…are condemned to repeat it.
Francis is an excellent narrator and has an extensive education based in prehistory mainly in Britain and the British isles. I saw one documentary where he built an ancient house using building it to size and with ancient materials and methods.
Store clerk: How are you today, sir?
Francis: As a pre-historian...
Annoyed the hell out of me lol. Pre history is pre like 10,000 years ago, not a mere 2,000 years ago in early CE 😂
My favorite legendary figure was Queen Boudicca of the Icenis. A true hero to Britain.
Until she got crushed
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You sound like a despotic Roman Emperor... or a world-class jerk.
An example of a bloody Roman invasion. Boudicca did not exactly issue an invitation, nor was a celebration held by the Britons.
Greetings from Russia! What a fantastic video! We are very grateful to be able to study English history through this.
It's more than simple curiosity that motivates some and obsesses still others to learn about where they came from.
Perhaps they may feel more relaxed about a consistent and stable future with one will established in their past.
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1:31 - The Brits were the only ones in Europe who did not speak a romance mother tongue? Uh, Germania?
One guy speaking unmitigated bullshit makes the entire program suspect.
Chris: German is not based on Latin. Spanish, Italian, and even French are based on Latin.
@@johnemerson1363 That's exactly the point. The narrator claims that all of Europe spoke romance languages, and only Britain did not.
@@chrisk1944 I can see your point in some respects. You are right, Most of the languages in Europe were not based on Latin. English was just one of the Germanic languages in Europe.
@@johnemerson1363 @chris I mean, Roma Eterna died a little with Augustus and the Tetoberg forest. And then was executed after Marcus Aurelius. From then on-it was on. And the Romans were not initially latins. And Latinos and Latinos are just culturally appropriating as they have zero ties to The original Latin League.
@@GoogleUserOne Are you saying originally they didn't trot their horses while blaring their radios are ridiculously high volume?
Beautiful, entertaining and cultivating. Amazing how this whole story is made by tiny details provided by this dedicated and passionate group of professionals seeking the truth for all of us. Really great.
Super work thanks for your treatment of the transmission.
Peace in our time
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_
- Bertrand Russell
_"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_
- Rev. Bosworth Smith
Good stuff, but I think the more logical assumption is that the abbeys were set up to collect tolls from people who crossed and the weapons were tossed in the water for the same reason that TSA checkpoints have a collection of pocket knives in a bucket.
Yes. Also, there may be many abbeys there because the land is property of the church (an allodial holding perhaps?)
It's only "logical" if you have an a priori bias against the Catholic Church as being greedy. Their first and foremost goal was to convert people, and they would not achieve that, particularly an abbey of monks without an army, by taking advantage of the local population and swindling them with tolls. Don't you think that the lords and other land-holders would have revolted against unjust buildings of abbeys if that's what they were doing? Obviously the people there let them build them, and it is illogical to think monks in the abbeys forced people to toss their weapons or pay tolls without a large security force at their disposal.
@@kyrieeleison2793 An interesting point in this video and about Ireland too is that Catholicism existed in England in pre-Saxon times sans Rome and that, in Ireland, between the time of St Patrick c.400 and the Anglo-Norman invasion 1169, Catholicism sans Rome existed in Ireland too. This invasion of Ireland had the approval of Il Papa as independent Catholicism was not in the interests of Rome. Right now, or at least before Musk and Bezos, the Vatican is the richest bank in the world. So it is greedy.
What you're saying about conversion and a soft approach makes sense for political reasons but make no mistake, the Catholic Church is a political organisation. I'm not sure that's what Jesus meant it to be. They're hardly going to convert people by beating them up as kids and other unspeakable things in schools, but that's what they did.
Conversely, Ireland was doing fine until the Anglo-Normans turned us to Rome and then after Henry VIII, the English realised their mistake and tried to turn us to London instead. For God's sake of course. Rome doesn't like Gnosticism either because it's too literal, and dealt with adherents of Gnosticism like fury Hell hath no, but they tell us we should take the Bible literally and disowned science when science said "Hang on a minute boss, it would seem that your book is more of a parable as it doesn't seem to reflect the complexities of what really happened."
So Rome wants control. Your soft approach doesn't go against that but seeking tolls or church donations in return for easier access to life everlasting is not out of kilter either.
You yanks all have these bizarre ideas based on your own little obsessions.
1:47:35 Two groups analyzing the same Y chromosomal data come up with conflicting interpretations. Speaking as a biochemist, I'd have been surprised if they hadn't. Small differences in how the statistical analysis is set up can yield wildly different results. There's very little more inscrutable than listening to geneticists argue!
I've seen those iron swords in museums, those men must have been extremely strong to swirl those around.
They weigh about 4 pounds. During my days as a mediaeval re-enactor (not anymore, it is a young persons game!) we found that the swords, nicely counterbalanced by the pommel at the end of the handle, were very easy to use. And because ours were not edged, they actually weighd a few ounces more than the originals.
@@bsaneil really? they look extremely heavy.
The Freisan's were also renowned as being very tall and strong, like the cattle and horses associated with them.
A great documentary for those interested in British history
1:27:19 - 1:34:19 I really enjoyed the interview with David Howlett, the previous editor of the Latin dictionary at Oxford University.
Guy walking on top of history, everytime he took a step on the walls he was kicking parts of the rock walls off. I would think he would have loved the remains enough to know doing this erodes the relics unaturally.. i do love the info this channel put out tho. Alot of time and work goes into giving us the past .. good job👏🏻👍did love the finding of the swords and metal relics. When i see something like that i always wondered how the past owners would have felt holding their swords..and the giving back of them to the water makes sense..
I totally agree . I was literally crying! Crying my eyes out watching him desecrate the sacred ancient walls of Britain. I can hardly get myself together to type this but I'm donating 1,000 dollars to gofundme and raising money to build fences around the walls so this can't happen ever again.
@@josharnold7746 I don't believe you.
Weren't those walls built to be walked upon? Anything that was removable would be gone in the first hundred years. If anything is being kicked off, it is recently acquired dust and plant growth.
@@tooyoungtobeold8756 ok ,you got me. I'm actually donating only 500 but crumbling walls are a real passion of mine.
@@josharnold7746😂
Absolutely amazing series produced with great amount of research and hardwork. Thank You.
Accept that he is LYING. Retelling Britain's history through a modern liberal lense, saying all those Viking murders and invasions and theft was just sweet, happy 'immigration'. And lying about how Britts didn't mind being wiped out in their own land by elite Anglo-Saxons who were given their land and who RULED OVER the natives, forced them to give up their language, culture and religion. It was all just happy 'migration' which people accepted. Noone suffered. LIBERAL LIES.
Braverman would surely brand it as WOKE propaganda.
Props to the editor for the singing goose, that was amazing.
This is all pretty much educated guesswork. Still wonderfully creative and enjoyable to watch
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_
- Bertrand Russell
_"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_
- Rev. Bosworth Smith
Isn’t all archeology educated guess work …unless one has an actual time machine.
@@jeffgriffin9747 There are no historical documents pre 1200a.d. It's all 100 percent b.s..
Francis is pacifying history all the time. Peaceful and ritualistic interpretation of everything, even swords are basically used to throw in the lake.
@@johndoeiii9767 Amazing is the book that guided the uncivilized nomads of Arabia and Africa to unravel the physical and metaphysical dimensions of Men and the universe.
So the arrow shaft was "offered" to the river (as a pure guess) and not dropped, or thrown away?..or indeed used for fishing?
I do love history, and get into it in some depth, but i am starting to get fed up with one historian coming up with his own guesses, to debunk another historian's guesses.
This really does piss me off i have to say.
So take a trip to the fen and come up with your own hypothesis.
Perhaps i will :-)
Man has been giving offerings to the gods since time began. The God's would be offended or not grant their wishes if they offered anything but their most treasured possessions.
Just a sailor reading ship novels stuff . I NOTICED the same thing when, I forget his name does learned English the same way and it was impecable English. He was a Polish guy who wrote in the 1860 area.
Absolutely fantastic series, fascinating and refreshing. Good on you Francis!!
I’ve been needing exactly this
Indeed.
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_
- Bertrand Russell
_"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_
- Rev. Bosworth Smith
And me !
Still barely into the documentary, but incredibly enlightening. I'm not sure how the history is taught in Great Britain, but in The US, The Dark Ages are called a barbaric time, but so much architecture and art comes out of that period, so much so that we study it.
Perhaps "Dark" here is like the "dark" in dark matter, that which bends towards Light. No wait, magnifies light?
Thank you 😊
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_
- Bertrand Russell
_"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_
- Rev. Bosworth Smith
Metal, especially higher quality metal used in swords was a highly valued commodity that required a lot of labor and resources to produce. I find it unlikely that people were just constantly using them as religious offerings at causeways. A decent sword would have been a highly prized item, often pased down through generations. A broken or damaged sword would have been recycled or repaired.
Not if offered to the gods
Maybe dump points from government confiscation or from a victory in a fight if victors had better weapons they wud just dump the losers.
You underestimate the power of religious beliefs ...
thats the whole point. thats why they're offered. its why virgins are sacraficed and goats slaughtered.
@@scottmcr8018 People underestimate normal human behavior, and archeologists are among the worst at doing so. Like you point out, if you didn't want your weapons confiscated, you dumped 'em in the river. Sometimes, the river floods, and you lose it, or a man dies and the location dies with him. More likely than tossing expensive items to the gods.
Aside from direct offerings to the river or fenland, is it possible they were deposited with their owners or as offerings with their owners to the water, wetland, swamp with inhumations since lost or dispersed through the very active fluvial and biological taphonomic processes found in riverine and wetland environments?
Of course less active fluvial processes create the famous bog bodies but more active water bodies might have a stronger effect on the decomp process.
Love the questions, until you can get the answer. Interesting question...
@@edwigcarol4888 I think that historical accounts can be helpful but problematic and we don't always have them that far back. It seems reasonable to me that people would have been sent off with the tools they might need in the next life, like in many cultures throughout the world. It makes less sense to me that these works requiring wealth and time would have been thrown off into the river/void. Of course I am disconnected from these practices by thousands of years but the human and archaeologist in me hints that these were send-offs, particularly if these offerings were made by smaller communities where the value in these works could just have easily been diverted to other needs. No answer is likely forth coming unless we identify a depositional oxbow perfectly situated to provide the right burial and preservation conditions. Questions are most always worth asking.
@@edwigcarol4888 love your Handel playlist!!!!
A 'time of creativity and progress' does not neccessarily mean that the times were not dark. In 380 AD ordinary people were literate to a degree. Many people and even animals lived under tiled roofs, one could send a letter from York to Damascus , and ordinary people had access to an array of mass produced household items. 50 years later all that had gone. It may have been an intersting time in which a lot of stuff happened, but people like Gregory of Tours, and Gildas, are testament to the fact that generations before their births, society was much more secure and prosperous. The crude pottery and the urban decline during this period is also very marked. Pottery of reasonable quality, and coin use may not have ended bang on or after 410, but by 600 when the historical record re-opens, all this had gone, and things would not start to turn upwards until about 800. Interesting stuff may have happened and buildings (albeit timber and thatch, not stone and tile) put up, but to whose name do we attach them? Isn't this is why they were called 'Dark Ages' in the first place? The Greek Dark Age (1100 BC - 750 BC) and the Byzantine Dark Age (650 - 900) were not wholly 'dark', but the term is a convenient shorthand for a period which is definitely poorer, less well documented, and less prosperous than what went before, and which ushered out the 'old order'.
Yes, this is the quite obvious correct interpretation. However, upending established historiography based on scant evidence has a certain appeal for PhD students looking for a name for themselves.
Sutton Hoo was discovered by a very experienced, self-taught archaeologist named Basil Brown who was recommended to the landowner by the Ipswich Museum. Cambridge University didn't "Help", they helped themselves. As soon as they heard there may have been a discovery of some importance, they took over and took credit. Within a week Basil Brown was reduced to the status of a porter, within two he was banned from the site altogether. Helen Geake failed to mention him because she works for Cambridge University. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a condition for her doing this documentary, that she wasn't allowed to mention "You know who". It's amazing what some people will do to get just a few more minutes on TV.
That is really disgusting. I will remember Basil Brown whenever I think of this discovery and pass it on whenever I discuss the topic. I'm only one person, but maybe someone can write about it.
I agree with you. She vaguely mentions him but not by name and characterizes the University’s involvement as “help”.
Happens so often!! Educated people can be such a disappointment. Wish we could get the word out. Embarrassment is deserved.
Basil Brown!!!
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If the sword in the stone was really a byproduct of stone molds for a bronze sword then the blacksmiths would've been absolutely legendary. What a funny theory.
I was thinking something similar, it kinda caught at that part. I'd say that in the recesses of my subconscious, I believe in the legends of King Arthur.
So much art and archeology come out of this time with this mythical figure and something nudges me that it's the truth of his existence that got lost.
Does anyone else put these history documentaries on there phone to fall asleep 😴🌜
Thoroughly Enjoyed this. Thank You.
The new archaeological evidence provides a basis upon which we can make more assumptions. I don't find the argument that the Britons were so enamoured with the culture and language of a few Anglo-Saxon itinerants that they decided to adopt it and to the extent that the whole country was subsumed by it.
What about the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle - written at the end of the 9th century - who wrote that?
It's obvious The Victorian, covered up and whitewashed the history. They're called it the Dark ages because it was a multicultural society and vast middle east trade. The evidences are in the The book called Jacobite Gleanings From State Manuscripts by J. Macbeth Forbes and Memoirs of the Secret Service of John Mackey, Esq, During the Reigns of King William, Queen Anne, and King George 1.
When RUclips recommends His-Story vids I know all the more what to ignore.😊
I always found it a nice coincidence that both Arthur and Beowulf have names which mean "bear".
Fyi. They did not exist they are simply of stories handed down to entertain folks.
And sooty.
I appreciate how this series was stitched together.
Now that's a British insult. The dialogue was more of a cobbling of sounds and imaginative nonsense, too!
@@SD-de4do Yes , what is the connection between pet theories and men with bizarre hair dos and beards? It does give an impression of being studious.
This is an utterly fascinating documentary. I watched the entire thing totally mesmerized by the cohesive, cogent, and accessible narrative.
Thank you for posting this!!
At ~1:55:00 ... Wouldn't their job have been easier with lidar on a drone or small aircraft rather than walking up and down?
I love this series. Wish it had continued .
So you're into fantasy and fiction and not real history I see.
@@moonburn8156 And you're interested in low brow sarcasm concerning a person you know utterly nothing about. I see
@@thomaszaccone3960 That wasn't a shot at you, but at this video's content.
@@moonburn8156 Sorry. Actually, I don't really agree with the author's premises. You can't just disregard people like Nennius, Gildan and Bede who were closer to the events than we and may have had access to unknown original sources since lost to us. I find it hard to believe that the fortifications on the Saxon shore were constructed in such strong nature as to serve merely as storage units.
At the same time the points he makes about the "Dark Ages" makes sense to me. They were in a good part,but not exclusively, dark because of a lack of records. This may have been due to viking destruction, Henry VIII's destruction of the monasteries, and the activities of Oliver Cromwell and his religious fanatics.
Usually, when half the history is false, the whole damn thing is.
this is just wonderful, everything that an educational show should be. I really adore the gentlemanly debate at around 1hr 43! i will watch again and again!
A causeway would be a quite natural place to simply store a cache of weapons. If I were to throw a sword into the water as a ceremonial bit I'm not sure I'd pick a bridge. Also, cri.inals drop weapons from bridges , have been for centuries.
If Saxon's weren't invaders, then why was there multiple saxon kingdoms? Why is Alfred the Great called a Saxon instead of celtic Britanic king? Did I miss something in this video? Did the local brits just lay down and say hey your king is our king?
probably
"Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here!"
That's what it was really like.
i really enjoyed the first half. the second half was way off-base though. modern geneticts has proven the Anglo-Saxon replacement of native Britons (outside of Wales, Cornwall & Scotland of course). this documentary fights against it while at times supporting it. "ax to grind" indeed!!
536-546 A.D. Famines, etc. from tree ring history and notations from Middle Eastern scholars.
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_
- Bertrand Russell
_"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_
- Rev. Bosworth Smith
Excellent Series. So interesting with learned authorities explaining in language anyone could understand. I'm not sure how they arrive at all their conclusions but the theories put together alongside the archeological finds are fascinating. Whatever the truth, it's clear that we have some amazing artefacts that, in themselves, are just amazing
great reply , i aggree , and take comfort in knowing the closest i can get to te truith , is through sreaming up radicle ideas
A most fascinating and rewarding video to watch.
This was a very British comment.😅
I have often wondered if the sword from the stone was in fact made from meteoritic iron. Tutankhamen's tomb contained such a dagger. The weapon was high in nickel and such "Skystone" swords do not rust as easily.
I just learned something, I've never known 🥇thank you! This is why I love these documentaries..., So much information is given from the audience. Thank you again
That's very good point I also believe that merlin staff was not from this planets it wasn't just some wooden staff he used as a walking stick
meteoric steel in a time when most swards were of poorer iron or bronze really gives the idea. "A sword descended from the heavens, like given from the gods, able to smite every foe, pierce through armour and break other blades in half" Basically a great explanation behind swords of legends.
get a grip its a legend not factual lol
@@60toodles Any legend springs from some actual fact, spread by word of mouth, overheard by distant people, changed, transformed into fabulous tales and then partially forgotten. It wouldn't be so strange if a rare and precious sword would be passed from generation to generation, given a name and accompanied by a legend on its origins, then lost and turned into a tale to tell, even without thinking of kings of Britain, magical stones, predestined knights and such.
Don't worry , the way things are going we'll soon find out ourselves .
There is no retirement for an artist, it's your way of living so there is no end to it.
Economic collapse. Cultural decline. Below replacement level fertility...
I can't imagine what that would be like ..
Good Lord, I would LOVE to have been able to participate in this archeological project! How exciting!
6:40 -
It may not matter to all, but this sure does look like an upside-down crucifix to Me... 🤔
A long sermon on the wonders of multiculturalism
I really enjoyed this documentary series, well presented and informative.
There is a certain part of the musical score that sounds like its taken from Rachmanioff's C# Prelude.
At about 50:20, the decending line - it sounds like its from page 2 of the C# Prelude. Happens several other times too
The title of this documentary should be “speculating wildly about the history of Britain”
Yes. Total speculation from university types pushing their own pet theories, backed up with solemn music.
The Dark Ages were called "dark" because historians in the 19th century did not have much information or artifacts of the age, hence their knowledge was "dark".
It actually refers to a lack of written history of the era
@@cardroid8615 same thing he said lol
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Sort of.
They've got plenty of artifacts, archaeology etc, just not so much in the form of written documentation. It's specific to written documentation. Hence 'Dark age'
at 15:41, here's another hypothesis: They found weapons at the crossways because there were guard posts at these crossways.
Nice, Britain being Britain being full of itself.
What??
It's not 'Britain', it's a pompous documentary. You can find them in every country.
Or British people trying to find out more about their history.
You clown
It’s all we have left. The tories made sure of that.
Well, the story is about Britian.