Can the 76ers’ new trio prove a BIG 3 still works? First Take debates
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Can the 76ers’ new trio prove a BIG 3 still works? First Take debates
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Kendrick Perkins, Brian Windhorst and Shannon Sharpe debate whether the Philadelphia 76ers’ new trio can prove a BIG 3 still works.
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0:00 Can the 76ers’ new trio prove a BIG 3 still works?
2:30 Brian Windhorst answers
4:00 Shannon Sharpe on the 76ers’ new Big 3
8:00 Stephen A. on the 76ers’ BIG 3
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Unc called the man a “Trustee” 💯💯
76s shoulda chose Jimmy butler and they mightve had better than a 2nd round exit at best in the last 4 years
Yo that killed me & perk! 😭 I kno the ppl in philly liked that cuz harris ain't do nun all those years.
Nasty work😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@SsjRedneck
@@SsjRedneck all I think of when I hear his name is: "Tobias Harris over me!"
Ludicrous
Perk and Windy are in the same location, according to their backgrounds 🤣🤣🤣
Windy's Disney remote studio pack slightly faded tho lol
"Tobias Harris been skatin for years" 😂
Embiid and Playoff P gonna do some damage for the 25 games they play together
I’m expecting both embiid and pg sit on the bench together for the playoff, with maxey carrying the team again 😂
No....🤡🤡🤡🤡
You not wrong either
exactly. anyone who has watched basketball closely in the last 7-10 years knows Embum & Chokejob P are always "hurt" during the playoffs & never come thru in big moments
Most likely
Screenshot this comment please because it’s definitely going to happen
Tobias Harris is the ultimate finesser when it comes to the nba. The man gets paid like an all star but does the bare minimum and nobody bats an eye. Just unbelievable stuff
Shame realty 😢
Every excuse for embiid. Jokic carries around the equivalent of Tobias, Michael Porter Jr
Players moving teams isn’t even exciting anymore. He’ll play some regular season games, a couple of playoff games, the cycle will repeat in year two, and then he’ll be on a new team by year 3.
i feel like this happens because most players and teams are hyped by media and people on social media, meanwhile there are really a few guys that are the guy like doncic, jokic, or gianiss. the rest of players will not have a chance against them unless you build a super team, and sixers definitely wouldnt. And see how milwakee and denver each year are going worse as teams
Paul George will be 38 at the end of this deal. He will get a 2 or 3 year deal after this deal & then retire
@@javiersanchez5431 The problem is teams are no longer allowed to build chemistry. If things don't work out in 1-2 years, players move on. The Celtics worked because they were patient and built from the ground up, as did the Warriors.
Facts
@@TeeJohnson-bv1mj PG might just be done after this deal... If he plays after age 38 he's gonna be end of career Melo ... some 15 minute vet presence that comes off bench to pop a few 3's
Embiid is borderline a “what if” type of player. It’s the same thing every single year quite LITERALLY EVERY season. They look like a team that compete and Embiid breaks down just before the playoffs….
True
That’s because he hasn’t had a real backup center only once in his career
George is in the exact same situation.
They need to minimize his minutes and only play him 65 games
Embum is always overweight & psychologically weak --- there are no ifs about him at all, at this point... Embum is who he is
Paramedics P sitting in his podcast during the playoffs meanwhile, Embiid injured, McCain doing tiktoks and doing a nail painting makeover with Jalen Green while maxey leads the 76ers... 😂
Citing Middleton and his health whilst talking up PG and Embiid is hilarious
I think this show flows so much better with Stephen A. hosting instead of Molly Querim.
Unc truly a UNC. He on national TV using a prison reference. Like golly 😅😂.
Without them playing any games together “Yes they work together well” 😂
Right? Analysts are delusional 😂
Guys like Paul George can fit any team or system, so a take like that is low hanging fruit for these analysts
@@daveczarnik6017no, you’re delusional. You’re a casual fan, and thats fine. Its not hard at all to understand why pg COULD work before seeing it. Will it actually? We shall see.
@@reem9317 Exactly. That's what they mean when they say, "on paper."... On paper, PG and Embiid are a good fit, but whether they actually will be, we will find out in the regular season and playoffs.
@@mangesh9034305 precisely. Health will be the biggest factor in this team.
Not me hearing windy talking about Derrick white contract n he just got extended literally while im watching this lol
paid a 35 year old a 4 year contract is just asking to lose for the next 4 years LOL
34*
@@TeeJohnson-bv1mjhe ain't no lebron 😂
@damienkun8786 and? He doesn't need to be. In 3 or 4 years him and embiid will be out of their primes and we will move in with maxey
@@Bentley7Cruize tf u talking about PG is past his prime.
Do you even watch basketball??? 😂😂 Say what you will about pg but he is still a top 5 two way player who doesn't have to play Robin to a batman anymore at this stage of his career he can be that all star 3rd option and just play his game now.. y'all really sleeping on PG 13
Oubre > Harris
I agree.
At leaat oubre trys every time on the court tobais was getting Max $ to be a poor catch and shoot 3 and d
@@SsjRedneckyup he gives effort I hope they keep him as the 2 or off the bench 3 not a 4 tho they need a rebounder stretch type 4 who plays d
Ugh, as a Sixer fan, I’m so happy Tobias is out of Philly
Paul George never seems to really push himself 100% when it absolutely matters the most. He gives up early. This won't work.
Would you go all out 100% with the likes of Ka Why Lennid as your co star? He was never available. I would do the same, do just enough but keep what you can for the future elsewhere.
that makes him a perfect fit to be on the same team with Embum & Ed from Good Burger
@@JustinChristopher-ov7gwat least that man has rings and PG wasn’t available either oh you must’ve forgot
@@King_Rayy_The_Entertainer Oh no I remember, he has 2, one with the Spurs and one with little Toronto. I remember very well. But that's ancient history. He's a HOFer, but that doesn't negate the fact he wasn't available when PG was there. And if you can't rely on another star, no need to go all out. Only a fool doesn't plan for the future.
Go look at the stats. He is a good player in the playoffs.
Giving Podcast P 4 years over 200 at his age with his past health issues is crazy and absolutely won't work. Plus with post season allergic Embiid this team will be a disaster every playoff season.
PG is at this point in his career is a third option kind of player, so it should work. Health is the only concern.
2nd fool. Where you get 3rd from? I can tell you Lil mfs don't know basketball
3rd option averaging 23 @ 48% shooting and one of the best 2 way forwards?? 😂 😂
@@JaySavant-00720 Maxey is younger and will get better thsn better , he is the 2nd option.
@@JaySavant-00720PG is def a 3rd option. He’s just a really good. He’s like khris Middleton. Khris is extremely good and effecient, but he’s not a 1st or even second option player. Their both too old to be #1 options but still good enough to be a championship factor
@@JaySavant-00720 that's his stats as 2nd option, now look at him becoming a role player sharing ball with maxey and embid
The playoffs next yr will probably be one of the best ones we’ve seen in a while
Embii will play first 40 games
PG will play last 40
Maxey will burn out in playoffs
Great process
Tyrese Maxey isn’t that far off from being a top 8-12 player. He’s probably in the 15-18 range.
Not yet he needs to improve defense and playmaking 25-30 if he repeats last seasons greatness sure
@@user-vv6ot8dn8h he’s not a bad defender at all, now playmaking sure but his defense is pretty good
@@user-vv6ot8dn8h How many defensively inept guards are in your top 10 list? because Maxey is definitely better than Shai aka midrange ft merchant.
Just throwing out about 30 players around the top 30 range. Who would you put Maxey over?
jokic, giannis, Luka, curry, embiid, tatum, sga, ant, lebron, kd, kawhi, booker, ad, pg, Ja, Brunson, kyrie, butler, sabonis, wemby, dmitch, Dame, siakam, Haliburton, fox, brown, Kat, Trae, murray, zion, gobert
He’s not even close. He had some explosive games against terrible teams in Embiids absence but when Embiid isn’t on the floor with him the difference is night and day.
I can see Maxxey taking the team over by the playoffs.
he gone be by himself come playoff time 😂
He needs to. It’s the 6ers only hope rn.
"first apron second apron cooking apron" 😂
All players care about is the money not championships.
The big 3 concept still works , it may be harder under this new cba but i think it can def work you just have to have three guys who don’t overlap each others skill set.
My yearly thank you to Mike Muscala for letting us keep our pick and get Maxey!
nope, because one is too old + you need to have a bench. the Golden State Warriors are the last big-3 that’ll work with the old CBA. not with the new CBA
Lmao not Windy used a Jurassic park line 🤣
If all 3 are healthy by the time the Playoffs begin it would be a miracle.
So basically the 76ers replace Harden with PG within a year
Plus we have the Clippers unprotected pick haha. Which will now probably be a lottery pick.
so good to see Sharpe back on air regular. Trustee lol
shannon is great i also loved brian’s nature finds a way take
Straight out of _Jurassic Park_
It just depends on health. Then again, those with better instincts and spatial awareness and body control are also less likely to get injured, so there’s definitely ways to improve your own ability to avoid injuries.
Accident waiting to happen gonna be funny when they're in the playoffs and Maxey is all by himself
So basically when the playoffs begin, Maxey is going to be the only one there again.
😂😂 god I hope not. Prolly will be tho lol
Let’s wait and see.
What has Paul George done… 🤷🏾♂️ I’m so confused. 🤔
he's another one of them "what if" players ... a lot like Embiid in some ways. on the one hand, PG has lost in the conference finals 3 times, but on the other, Embiid has an MVP title and twice scoring champion, plus PG is aging out. that's a lot of ca$h for "maybe."
it's especially worrying when you have a much younger Celtics team in the same conference, all with finals experience, with their top 8 rotation under contract & ready to run it back!
AND a newly revived Knicks team, also all younger and tougher!
AND a very young, super-energy Pacers team that now knows they have to figure out their defensive identity.
And the Giannis/Lillard combo, a new Magic team, Spo at the Heat, etc., etc.. 2nd place in the EC is gonna be a dog fight, is this 3 gonna give the 76ers an edge?
i don't see it... but by December 31st this year we can reevaluate this.
@@felipeb.9321 Well said! Perfect analysis
😂 Shannon talking about Tobias Harris was hilarious because it is 1000% true. Everybody always talking about Joel and Ben Simmons at the time, but Tobias is supposed to be this good spot up shooter and 3rd wheel that always plays like one of the worse players on the roster during the playoffs
this has the usual Daryl Morey big signing but no chip to speak of scenario written all over it --- Embum & Chokejob P are on Mt Rushmore when it comes to wilting during the playoffs & failing in big moments
What’s the instrumental at 6:30?
Your mom queefing 😂☠️⚰️
Role players are so important and stepping up created an opportunity to get more talent. George has been unfortunate in finding a team good enough to make the finals.
They need to get a bigman who can cover for Embiid during large parts of the regular season. I almost expect Joel to get injured so the Sixers need someone you could put on a playoff team and he could compete at a high level. I would target Naz Reid but Minnesota won't let him go after his performances in the playoffs and you'd need to trade Tobias to get him.
Joel needs to forego all the regular season accolades and accept that he needs to be ready to play 20+ games in the playoffs.
I believe that Maxey and George is more than good enough to deliver a chip. Next season both conferences are gonna be so competitive, the league has never felt this balanced💯
Hopefully Maxey can carry them while pg and Joel are on injured list….😅
are 76ers fans even happy about paying a career playoff choker / injury ridden player 53 million a year for ages 34-38? .... for reference, Donte DiVincenzo, Josh Hart, and Mikal Bridges, all in prime salaries combined = PG current salary
Well NYC did give up 5 first round picks for Mikal and they got PG for only the salary so that's a plus.
Trusting the process almost a decade later 😂 Ben Simmons cursed that team to the gulags
Woj out here working 24/7 this offseason man!
Knicks had assets. Cupboard was bare when morey got there
IF Embiid stays healthy yes this can work
Lmao Trustee ... Now that man is a superstar on a high school team
2025 season is gonna be the best one yet omg I can’t wait
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this move put the Sixers into the second apron, which means that they're essentially committed to this roster for the next few years?
Not til the Maxey extension
UNC just called Tobias a prison Trustee??? 😂🤣😂🤣
I love the question of “can a big three win” when the Celtics just won with a big 5 lol
arguably a big 6 ... wait. maybe a big 5 1/2, with Al and KP switching it up to make 1 1/2 😂
SA calling windy big windy is crazy
This a pointless debate of course a big 3 still work. The NBA Champions got Jaylen Brown Jason Tatum and Porzingis u can even argue they have a big 4 or 5
realistically, the Celtics have become a big 6. even at 38, Al is in great shape with the no back-2-back game management, as his Finals performances proved.
but the distinction here is the Celtics are no longer a 2 All-star headed team plus back-ups. anyone in their starting 5 can go off on any given night, making them almost impossible to guard and prepare for. that was not true of any other team last season, and nothing appears to have changed so far in free agency. other teams are piecing together big 3s that "look good on paper," to face off against a battle tested, big 6, championship team.
Big 3 still could work but not with Paul George.
I like it but in a 7 game playoff/finals series when it get gritty is it enuff? I’m glad they got Harris out of there but is a butler or derozan pick up needed to seal the deal. Drummond and oubre solid pick up to but ion know if the all other pieces & roles ready serious enough to seal the deal 💍 I’m talkin all the way.
Embidd not healthy in playoffs is a problem lol
Tobias needs to give that money back on my soul
Omg Shannon was speaking for real Sixers who really pay attention he’s 10000% accurate and hilarious and on point on Tobias Harris 5 years 180 million and did absolutely nothing in the playoffs
He was right about Tobias but tell me a playoff series PG has shown up since being with the Pacers
@@King_Rayy_The_Entertainer2021 playoffs when he carried the Clippers to their first western conference finals appearance without Kawhi.
@@marcusgarveyhou1877 did he carry you sure! Because I’m a Kawhi fan so I watch the Clippers closely PG had 2 good games that it Reggie Jackson off the bench did more that’s why he got a big contract in Denver
@@marcusgarveyhou1877Going back to 2021 is crazy when they just had a first round exit… with Harden. Where was the carrying of the team in (2024)?
@@camw3382 he did his part. Where was Kawhi and Harden? We know what Harden has been doing his entire career. I’m glad the 🚀 shipped his BA away from here.
"Tobias Harris over me?"
how do you know if it works or not they’ve never played together
If TOP 8 PLAYERS of SIXERS (EMBIID, TYRESE, PG13, OUBRE, to name a few) are HEALTHY come the PLAYOFFS, they will battle all the way to 2025 ECF 🏆
Philly got a V12 EMG Mercedes Benz. Embid maxey & George
Playoff Pete? It's more like playoff delete.
Now all philly need is a good pf who plays defense n could shoot a 3. Pj tucker type
If joel/PG can stay healthy, theyre definitely a threat
Big 3’s will always work when you have a star at center, at the wing & at the guard position. I’ll give you 2 teams that made big three’s like this.
2008-2013 Celtics: Ray Allen, Paul Pierce & Kevin Garnett
2010-2014 Miami Heat: LeBron James, Dwayne Wade & Chris Bosh
Shannon clearly doesn’t listen to Philly radio 😂😂😂
Shannon is the best at what he does
Ain’t no way yall callin this a big three 😂
oubre jr can play sg?
Great pickup, but if Embiid does not stay healthy it doesn't matter.
These dudes keep getting these big contracts without rings! No Postseason PG $212M no way I’d pay that with a unsuccessful Paul George
don't be so harsh... PG has lost 3 different conference finals.
Thats the thing, this CBA is putting emphasis on making rosters where the old CBA basically allowed 3 max players without penalties hit on teams.
This CBA is going to force the end of the so called "Big 3" idea, and try to create with the idea of more balance roster without spending 300 million for 1 player or 500+ million for 2
Yup .and that's why I like the New CBA because it won't allow teams to make superteams nomore .and when money get to big they gotta break the team up .look at the sun's right now they can't afford to keep their 3 max players on the roster nomore 2 of them gotta go next season.
Well Windy, Boston has just signed White and Tatum is about to be extended. So it looks like the Celtics will be together for a least 2 more years outside of Horford who’ll probably retire this time next year.
They might because they didn’t give up their entire roster
Bobcats in 6.
when the last time a big 3 won a ring 🤣🤣
KD, Steph, Klay 2018
The entire Celtics roster was resigned 😂
Ideally, teams want a Big 15. The deepest teams almost always make the deepest run in the playoffs. Boston didn't win a chip with a Big Three model. They had reliable players all over the roster, either to knock down shots, lock down on defense, or both.
They had the best starting lineup in the league, but after Al Horford they didn’t have depth.
@@jeffreyware7808 please... they had more than enough to rotate 8, even 9 deep in the playoffs without any major problems.
@@felipeb.9321 yeah most teams run 8-9 in their rotation. They were successful because of their top 6, not because Payton Pritchard, Sam hauser, and Luke Kornet are great bench pieces.
At this point PG needs to be limited to more catch and shoot attempts, hes too inconsistent to be taking away from Embiid, Maxey attempts.
Big 3s haven’t worked since KD joined GSW. When teams don’t focus on needs, you get nothing but “deep playoff runs” from critics
As a sixers fan not a fan big deal for injury prone guy who gets hurt and he is over 30. Sorry Philly it dint work with harden it won't work in Philly
You not a philly fan obviously because absolutely nobody would say "sorry philly it didnt work with harden it wont work in philly" stop lying you geeeeimp
Harden doesn't shoot catch-and-shoot 3s (neither have literally any of the other 2nd or 3rd options that have been brought in except for Maxey). I'll give you one guess what kinds of great shot opportunities playing with an offensively gifted Center creates.
Of course it doesn't work when your 2nd and 3rd best players refuse to shoot the open shots that your best player creates for them. This is literally the first time in Embiid's career that won't be a problem.
Tobias Harris over me?
Has KD demanded a trade there yet?
Ladies and Gentleman, your 2025 NBA Champs Philadelphia 76ers
I can never take the 76ers seriously because Embiid health during the regular season and post season is still a question mark
The guy has gotta prove the critics wrong when it comes to playing a possible 100 game season for the sixers to possibly win a championship
It won't work, even if Embiid is healthy. Too many street ballers, not enough leaders (except for McConnell)
tf is you even talking about? Mcconnell? like TJ… who has been a Pacer for the last 5 years? I cant rate the input of someone stuck in 2019
Put the drugs down and go sleep it off.
@@madridforever933what is this man on? 😂 Tj really?
Robbie, Robbie, Robbie….how wrong you are. Lay off the hard stuff bud
Judging by the likes, there’s 6 other ppl who think TJ is a Sixer 😂😂😂
Big 5 is killing me 😂😂😂😂
The Clippers big 3 didn't fail because PG, Kawhi and Harden didn't fit. It only failed because Kawhi wasn't healthy and even when he did play during the Mavs series, he didn't look like he was even at 50%. They probably would have beaten the Mavs otherwise (took them to 6 games without Kawhi contributing productive minutes). Bigs 3s usually work when at least 2 of your 3 stars are good defensively and are not always injured.
I don’t trust the Sixers chances of winning the playoffs next year. If you really want a big 3 of Embiid, Playoff P, and Maxey, they need to trust the process.
Unc, you clearly don’t pay attention to the 6ers because Crumbl Cookie was blamed for our shortcomings.
Every championship team has a Big 3 . Brown, Tatum,and kristaps
Depends on health and how they fill the bench up. I say they run into knicks and Celtics and get smoked in the second round fun team tho. Who I'm rooting for in the east
2 playoff chokers on 1 team what can go wrong
Sixers just got 🔥 some sneaky 👀 young guys with a lot of upsizes
SaS trying to put pressure on the gm for lacking championships while saying joel doesnt shrink in the big moments is so stupid and the opposite. joel has shrunk n the gm always gives his star rosters
Don't y'all know, Paul George doesn't play in the playoffs only in the regular season and even then he puts a cap limit on how much effort and mins he plays.