The pressure is on Joel Embiid to CONTEND, but not to win the title - Brian Windhorst | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- The pressure is on Joel Embiid to CONTEND, but not to win the title - Brian Windhorst | First Take
The First Take crew discusses top-tier teams in the NBA and mounting pressure on Joel Embiid.
0:00 Does the East have the three best teams?
6:45 Embiid under the most pressure?
10:35 Can the 76ers contend for a title?
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2 generational chokers in one team
Embiid was the only one with a 50 ball this postseason and dropped 40 in the elimination game against the Knicks…
They already had harden
Thinking Luka has the most pressure right after he carried the Mavs to the finals at 25 years old is CRAZY!
Pressure to get in shape and stay in shape
Tatum had similar pressure after leading the Celtics to the 2022 finals at age 24
Mavs fans claiming they have the best team in the west.. pressure is on Luka to be able to play with them
“Carried” after there was ppl saying him and kyrie had the most talented back court ever? After multiple analysts saying they were one of the deeper teams in the playoffs? After Luka was total crap from 3 and was saved by the play of kyrie and the rest of the team??? Seriously?
@@ogcookie7961the guy was playing injured
Embiid is already 30 and still hasnt gone to the ECF after having stacked teams + he won an MVP. why wouldnt he be under pressure to win a chip
76ers haven’t drafted well outside of Maxey
@@dreamcage1801they did make good pickups tho like Jimmy Butler and James Harden
@@lorddj9910 yeah but they both jetted
Embiid body ain’t built to take on a whole full season plus a championship run… Every playoffs he’s limping and can hardly make it.. u can’t win a chip with your main guy always injured
whatever you say Kiddo. I’ll bet you’re a LeBum D rider.
They need to load manage during the year, that's the only way it'll work
Look at what his workload has been in past regular szns and playoffs… He now has 2 co-stars to do a lot of heavy lifting , & a 2 guard who can go off for 15-25 on any night (Oubre) & finally a backup big (Drummond) that can provide valuable minutes of defense & rebounding when Embiid is on the bench
@@ike_SYO1592 he’s still gonna get injured unfortunately. Some ppl just star injured
It’s even worse this year bc he’s also playing in the Olympics this year..😂
Pressure? From where? From what? Lol literally NOBODY expects anything from embiid other than his yearly "if I were healthy" excuse😂
They try every year to make this guy seem like a threat and I’ve never seen him play past the second round
I’ve never seen a former MVP get the kind of pass that EmFraud does. LITERALLY only MVP to NEVER make it past the 2nd round 😭
And people said jokic didn’t deserve the mvp cuz he didn’t prove himself in the playoffs 😂😂 it’s like these guys can’t make up their mind
Averaged 33 on 1 leg in the playoffs this year getting triple teamed
@@officialthomasjamesand still lost to a team they should have beaten. 11 of those points are from the ft after flopping all game.
@@officialthomasjamesthat’s the point even though it’s not his fault his body is not built and reliable for a title run
Crazy even Westbrook touched a finals😭
I'd like for people to admit the Nuggets are not the same team as 2023. The roster was already different/less rounded this season and already this offseason it got worse. It's not the same threat.
They need Bruce back
Embiid never fully healthy when its on the line
He was in the bubble then Ben’s back gave out.
he chokes healthy or not
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 bro averaged 4 turnovers and was a -13 on the floor during the bubble 😂😂😂😂😂
Dude's a choker, injury's just a crutch that's being used when he fails.
@@shiningwizard202your telling me he was bad in that series? 4 turnovers is terrible but that plus minus isn’t telling me anything considering the circumstances
Milwaukee seems to have fallen off the top 3 teams conversation.
That's because they signed doc rivers 😂😂😂😂. We know he will screw it up. He always does. Most overated coach in sports history.
If embid keeps flopping and falling on the floor, expect him to get hurt
Always been the most annoying thing about him. A big guy who does that has a bit of a soft factor that I don't think works in his favor when he's typically the biggest guy in the court
@@JP-jd8wrshaq told him big guys have to sell calls or they won’t get any cuz he’s too strong.
He falls to avoid injury. He’s been told to fall
Well clearly that's not working.
@@smacnealpaige”he falls to avoid injury” Sixers medical staff dumbest in the league 😂
Embiid is under more pressure to win a Title but in the same breath, Paul George is under the same pressure.
This year they just gotta get to the ECF. They have a 2 year window.
Embiid is just a limping step behind the real guys, I bundle him together with Booker, and Tatum.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76they wont
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76what a low bar lol
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 With Paul George and Maxey getting the bag, they gotta get to the big dance.
It is shameless how much water these fools carry for Embiid. Never seen an MVP get all the praise and none of the expectations.
Buddy embiid is most criticized player itl
Lmao you live in a dream world. He wished he could’ve hid in Denver with zero expectations or media coverage his first few years.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 your Embiid dickriding is incredibly sad, all over this comment section you’re crying. At least pick an actual champion or playoff performer.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 jokic was a 2nd round pick, do 2nd round picks have pressure early in their career?
@@Jokafilmz yea, by the fans. The media is always excusing him for everything.
How is Luka the most under pressure when he has consistently performed in the playoffs while Embid can get numerous different star players and a lot of postseason failures gets no pressure. Ridiculous
is that Kingpin?
Yeah
When we expect players like Giannis, Jokic, and Luka to WIN but when it comes to Embiid he just needs to CONTEND? That's shows how low the bar has been set for Embiid
Jokic didn’t have that same pressure til his second mvp. Joel has had pressure since year 4 while jokic got to hide in Denver with zero expectations or coverage.
@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 Embiid ain't on the same level as the guys mentioned above and the 'contender' narrative is proof
lol it’s all about narratives with these ppl
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 got to hide?? Jokic doesn’t flop, he isn’t a free throw merchant and is there for his team all the time.
Embiid for sure, dude is 30 begged for an MVP and has never been past the 2nd round. He’s in contention with Nash as the worst mvp choice ever. Dude can’t walk straight yet feels the need to play in the Olympics, if I was 76er fan I’d be pissed.
Atleast Nash played in a couple wcf
@@ShawnReed-ny1hd yup, currently Embiid is in the lead for worst.
@@ShawnReed-ny1hdand they got screwed the one year by Stern suspending their players for barely stepping off the bench changed the series
“Begged for MVP” like he wasn’t top 2 for 4 years straight
@@kaysheye7784 yup top 4 doesn’t do it. he literally was on TV campaigning and Perk using race to get him votes, or did u miss that?
I think Sixers just go by the health of Embiids knees.
In other words no chance, it's always excuses with Embiid
This is the best personnel Embiid has had to contend with his entire career. If 76ers stay healthy and hopefully add a 3&D wing at the 4 they could very well make a finals run and win.
Healthy Knicks are better than the mavs
Thats not saying much
Mavs are MID
The way they talked about tatum is how they should talk about embiid. He hasn't won anything he flops himself to injuries and plays worse come playoff time.
Exactly.these fools were hammering Tatum since he came to the scene.. embiid has been playing longer and had an all star cast Everytime..
They use the injured excuses for Embiid but slander Tatum while he plays through injuries. They say “Tatum gets carried” but say Embiid needs more help when he loses next to Jimmy Butler and James Harden. Tatum put 51 on him in a game 7 and not a PEEP from this dickrider network. Shits pathetic. Tatum has a ring and Embiid never will.
2 generational chokers in one team
funny emoji
Joel only had 3 teams good enough to make a run lol one team got bounced by a buzzer beater from the champs lol
Do the sixers have a bench? Andre drummon, Kelly Oubre who else?
So Luka gets trashed by the same media for losing in the finals but the expectation for Embid is just to contend , cool
Mav fans are learning what Celtic fans have gone through for 5 years.
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No pressure to win a title?
Dude is 30.. At some point hes gotta win a title unless we're gonna give him a pass for finishing his career ringless despite being on STACKED teams
Smh
What stacked teams?
@@teachergotgame2203Youre joking, right? lol
@@teachergotgame2203the dude had jimmy butler prime Ben Simmons Tobias not to mention the 3 and D bench lol.
@@Purp-cuhz😂😂😂😂 prime Ben Simmons who negated all his positives by being a negative on offense. Butler didn't even buy in that half a year. Embiid is way better and tobias is tobias.
He only had 3 teams good enough to win and each were torn sorry after their first full season. You forgot he had to play with tobi n Ben as his main ball handler lmao
What? If this dude is an MVP caliber player like you people in the media keep saying, then it's win or bust for him given he's now playing with 2 all stars
Bro you write essays for nothing..nobody likes you 😂😂😂
Chiney has grown so much as an analyst and has an excellent mind/take in the game, super proud of how far she has come. It dont help that she drop dead gorgeous to look @ either 😂😂😂🤩
No mention of Dallas. I mean just as expected. Pathetic
As a Mavs fan I’ve accepted even if we were to win the chip they’d still find a narrative to push us out of the light.
He's had Butler Harden Simmonds and now maxey and pg and he still ain't under any pressure?
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A big reason why there hasn’t been a back to back champ since the ‘18 Warriors is because the defending champ has been hit with an injury to one of their top 2 players since then which has led to some teams being out of sync by the time the playoffs roll around.
Perk really gifted this man an MVP because aint no way an MVP shouldn't be able to help lead his team not only in the playoffs but for a ring. You dont see passes given to MVPs like this. At least not recently
Embiid's career started on the treatment table and I imagine it'll end that way.
He became pretty nasty for starting off hurt on a team trying not to win. And had Ben as a main ball handler
CP3 would rather go to San Antonio than team up with LeBron…😂 Bronny would rob CP3 of minutes. Then CP3’s former teammate happens to be his head coach. CP3 and JJ used to hate each other before becoming teammates. People easily forget how hated Redick was in college.
I figure CP3 went to San Antonio for a few reasons…
- Gets to play with Wemby
- Gets to play under Pop
- No state income taxes
- Has a more meaningful role
I thought CP3 should’ve returned to Phoenix. But since he spent years in Houston, he didn’t mind living in Texas again. I figure it’s his last year as he turns 40 next year in Year 20. He usually thrives as a mentor and not when other stars with big egos are around. One of his best seasons was his lone year in OKC mentoring Shai and other kids. Then his first season in Phoenix making the Finals.
I don’t think the Atlantic division has the three best teams. NYC and Philly are still a bit unproven. Boston or Miami has won the East four of the last five years with the lone one by Milwaukee in 2021. NYC is extremely beatable and they did lose Hartenstein. While Philly has never made it passed the second round in two decades.
From the free agency I’ve seen so far, Skip Bayless’ OKC looks like a dark horse and looks improved. Dallas and OKC improved but Denver and Minny didn’t.
1. Boston Celtics
2. Dallas Mavericks
3. Oklahoma City Thunder
4. Minnesota Timberwolves
5. Denver Nuggets
6. New York Knicks
7. Philadelphia 76ers
Paul George is NOT a winner. Similar to Kawhi, Embiid is not always healthy. Nothing really changes for Philly. They’re just as cursed as the Clippers.
Stfu You wrote all of that just to sound goofy at the end.
That’s fair.
CP will be injured for the season in January
Pat4Clippers it’s wild after 5 str8 seasons of being dead wrong you still come back and make these clownery top teams 🤣
You people love to just hear the sound of your own voice
Embiid is gonna be 31 when the Playoffs begin, he can’t just he contending he needs to win because especially with his injury prone body he doesn’t have long in the league
Embiid knee injury is a major concern to be missing out of the second round
I wish Jokic got the kind of protection that Embiid gets from these media analysts 🙄
Jokic gets slurped every second of his life. Never got any smoke for losing that series. You’re a delusional fan
He’s black. What do you expect?
What you mean he gets to hide in Denver with no expectations lol Joel been getting ripped even tho we all know Ben fultz and tobi were trash and they flipped the team every year lol when iverson went to Denver he said a huge weight was lifted off him.
@@user-tw2ev4ou7o you can hide in Denver. Philly, every little thing gets scrutinized lol he’s in a dream world
@@user-tw2ev4ou7owhat are you talking about? I remember after he won his 2nd MVP ESPN straight up said he was the star under the most pressure to win, which he did the following year.
Id like to see Nuggets go for Hield.
PG is not a philly type of guy. They will turn on him when he dissappears
You’re a clown
Did they turn on Embiid with his constant playoff failures?
When are we gonna let go of the whole “battle tested” when we saw proof that the gauntlet western conference tires teams out
He need to make sure he gets in shape!
6:10 Stan Kroenke's Arsenal have NOT won the EPL title yet!
I remember that bald dude he was a cohost on a radio show in Philly a few years back I used to prank call their radio show non stop and he used to get PISSED😂😂😂
7:16 I went straight to the comments 👀🍿
🗣️👍 😂
I’m going to keep saying it, Bobcats in 6.
Shut up
Embiid could go to the 73-9 gsw and he would still havr the expectation to just contend
Cant stay healthy they won’t get to the finals
If Joel scores like he did last year he was sitting in 4th qtrs. Now with Drummond he can help keep leads Joel gives them.
The way Embiid continues to get passes is crazy!
They give props to the top West teams except the team that actually went to the Finals lol
Luka is gonna come back HEALTHY, Lively will not be a rookie anymore, they upgraded THJ to Klay, they upgraded DJJ to Marshall. Wake up and stop sleeping to them.
OKC traded Giddey, and people will realize how big Giddey is to that offense until they found a guard that will playmake for them
0:10 I’m out 💀
Lol makes Molly look ‘normal’ by comparison
It’s harder than ever to repeat in the nba.even the spurs never repeated and we see them as a dynasty
3 yr/$190 mill? For Embiid? GTFOH. for a guy always injured?? Never been past the 2nd round?
Their best player in 20 years
Philly has 2 players that faithfully hurt or get bounced out the playoffs…. And Joel is the only top 15 player that they don’t criticize for not winning
Him and Lebron. AD, they'll criticize but Lebron "needs more help".
@@Paulafan5 y’all criticize Lebron for everything under the sun
Lakers regretted no keeping Caruso back in the day. Denver will regret immensely not paying KCP. KCP is an elite defender.
Philly a Fighting City
The title is off of what they are talking about
As a non sizers fan i genuinely wan the sixers to get past the hump but they need jimmy butler
How is Luka the 25 year old, that’s been to two conference finals and a finals appearance already under more pressure to win a title in a stacked west conference, then the 30 year old mvp who’s never gotten past the second round and the only guaranteed threat every year has been the Celtics, lmao how are these people qualified
Was actually going skip this clip until I saw the bald queen moderating 🤩
I'd never thought I would say this in regards to this show but Windhorst looked skinny
when the other guy's face was showed
It’s a team effort not all about Embiid
100% it’s not but every post season embiid has to battle through an injury that hinders his level of play
Came into the league hurt, his body can’t handle the pressure
When will the media understand that Embiid is a CHOKER? This is the truth we've been seeing for YEARS, yet somehow there is always conversation about him being a champion. It's beyond me how he gets treated better than Giannis, who's a proven CHAMPION
Denver needs to sign some depth
Embiid just needs to get to the ECF and it’s a success, and before u laugh, the franchise hasn’t been there in over 20 years !
I'm baffled by some of these analysts still sticking by the timberwolves. Ant can average 40 a game in the postseason but aslong as KAT continue shooting 3s and Gobert is a liability they'll never win.
Yes, on Minnesota. I don't know how Mavs beat them.
I can appreciate some eastern conference damage control, but the three best teams are def not in the east
The other team that handled the Celtics: the Hawks. LOL
19 inbound ☘️
Best ability is availabiliy
Then takes his MVP away because this is an embarrassingly low bar for a player of his caliber with this much help around him
Nope he earned it. Think his knees cuz he’s have won this past year.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 he’s the only MVP to never make the conference finals. He has repeatedly come up short in the biggest moments and it’s getting laughable at this point. He’s gonna be like David Robinson winning titles at the end of his career once Duncan was his teammate
that clippers roster was loaded with talent if pg didnt win there he wont win in philly. odds are joel will miss 30 games
6ers are the new clippers 😂
How?
Embiid hasn’t made it to the conference finals but adding a known playoff choker makes them a top 3 team??? And Luka who has gone farther than he ever has twice now is under more pressure??? Two of the stupidest takes on ESPN today and that’s impressive
lol Tatum has to win 10 titles before he will get recognition. Embiid just has to show up and he’s golden. Weird. Then worried about Luka’s attitude while Joel has been obnoxious his whole career.
Gotta stay healthy to be contenders for the finals
That eliminates Philly the clippers etc
Eliminates the pelicans & quitter haliburton+pacers
MVP, multiple high paying contracts, veteran trades, culture, identity belief all that and all you expect is to contend? That’s beyond bs
Bruh😂😂😂
Who is this dude talking 'bout "It was a night."?! It took 7 games to win, sir; so it wasn't a night... it was a series that they had taken over, in fact, and were then subsequently beat.
If Embiid can just stay in the paint and dominate things could be amazing, he doesn’t need to be on the wing now with Paul George in town and Maxey is a star
Needs to keep his big behind on the block.
Trying to be a wing player is what hurts him every time.
They might need to actually do load management w/ Embiid just to give them the best chance at him being healthy when the playoffs show up.. his health dictates what will happen in the West
I mean Embiid literally flops and falls on the floor constantly by choice. No wonder hes injured all the time
How else would he average 30 points with 12 FTs a game
At 7 feet, it ain’t by choice
None of these guys mentioned the western conference champion mavericks. Luckily the games are not decided by the wants and desires of sports journalists.
Denver got worse in 2 consecutive off-seasons while others got better. They gotta prove it on the court.
Imagine constantly disrespecting fans by calling the casual if they disagree but still wanting them to stayed tuned and engaged with your product smh
It'll be the injury excuse again....guaranteed. either him or PG or both
As a Sixers fan, if he does not lead us to the finals, the process and his tenure will be a complete failure. No more excuses for this dude.
Mavs and wolves.... team couldn't score.... dangs...
Honestly I think Embid should not try to have an MVP season and just stay healthy. Let him sit on the bench sometimes let them win games to get into the playoffs and then Embid go crazy in the play offs. Get playoff MVP not regular season
Windhorst wasn’t f@tt enough you had to bring an even bigger enough
This guy makes WIndy look small.
once we just accept that Embiid will never win one , then we can have more fun and less pressure
Knicks!!,
Awesome 1st String!! Knicks 3 and Anunby and Bridges!!!
This needs to be wembys show please and thank you.
The only thing that can stop the 76ers are......knees
she yapping about offense sells tickets and defense wins games like the mavs didnt beat the twolves
Luka would never have to win a championship if we’re judging him based on whether or not embiid is under pressure to win one. Embiid been in the league way longer and always disappears even though he plays good. In what universe and what drugs would I have to do to think that Luka is under more pressure to win a ring. But I get it though someone has to go out their way to take some pressure off embiid
It's so awesome to see someone run their mouth and finally have no more excuses. It's going to be fun watching him either dominate like he claims, or have another stub of a year!
if just play in the post he won’t get hurt
That’s why they sat there and hoed nuggets they knew they would’ve destroyed Boston