Biggest Mistakes with a Kong 2650 Build...
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2022
- In Today's video we have a Turbo Nova in the shop, we also have a Kong 2650 V2 in for some tuning. Find out some of the biggest mistakes people make when using this blower on their setup and discuss the proper ways of utilizing it's potential.
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Stopped watching RPM bc of steve and now hes in LMP definitely will be watching this channel xD
well......’ol Steve brought me to LMP & I really like the content, sooooo much that I don’t even waste my time with RPM anymore. 😉. keep up the good work Steve. 👍
Hahah good to hear! Thanks for watching 🙏
Same here bruh. Surprised anyone at RPM can walk through the bay doors with their heads SO DAMN BIG
Since I left RPM to follow you here I absolutely love this tuner. He takes the time to explain and talk about the builds. RPM T-Rex tuner was so condescending and basically laughed at builds instead of explaining them. Yup, build the motor first and get better results.
1 day I will have some monster heads on my iroc!! Love ur products u guys are the GOATS 🐐
Oh Hy I’m subbing, the first intro was nothing but good info
Same
Have an LSA in my 69 Camaro. Already have Kong intake w/ injectors, pulleys, fuel pump and a tune. Was considering Kong 2650. Glad I held off. Great info… Thankyou!!
Just finished watching this video. Very thorough explaining several things ive questioned or curious about before i invest in which route of building my V2.
I’ve been patiently waiting for a new video 😁. Great content as always. Love when Alec starts dropping some knowledge about the right and wrong way to do things. Helps those of us that are always trying to learn.
That remote tune policy is word for word perfect. Respect. Oh and +1000 on an incorrect ECU tune messing up the transmission
We finished the build on my 2013 ZL1 and dyno with a street tuned on 9/29/22 with a magnuson 2650, 9.5 lower pulley, ported heads, btr stage 3 cam, 1050 injectors, 2" headers, 3" cat back with corsa, Monster S triple disk, Roto Fab 5", afco, bmr tank, and MM catch can. We ended up with 957.6 rwhp, 846.3 torque with 16+lbs of boost at 7,000 rpm in Colorado. It was still climbing, but decided to play it safe. We will probably add the 80mm upper pulley and add the Inter chiller to assist with cooling, and thinking it will crack 1,000 whp? I dig all of your content! Very informative information with an experience builder and tuner with a detailed thought process behind your builds! ✌
Steve is here 😲 outstanding let's see how much he can grow this channel 😉
New SUBSCRIBER here. Love the detailed info of setups and his likeable approach compared to another shop....
“These things are fast as shit on the street”. I don’t think I’ve ridden in a V2 that I wasn’t impressed with. I love those cars
Hands-down bro you got my thumbs up and subscribed
Glad i watched this video. Sticking to a stock blower now. Saved a bunch of money from making a stupid mistake and buying a kong for no reason.
Man , I'm glad Steve found a good place . I like these guys. Liking the content. Happy for you bro.
Just subscribed, Glad to hear a familiar voice!
Very curious how much that Nova picks up with all the issues sorted out
What's the most boost you can push a ported lsa 1900. Rite now am at 800hp at 15psi 2.55 upper 10.00 lower. On a 376ci forged pistons and rods.
MY MAN!!! Just met him at WaWa cool guy 👍👍
Good video!
It's great to know that tuners know the real shit. I've been watching the guys at LMR, and they know their shit. You guys look like you know yore shit too! Thanks for the video. Oh, I own a stock 2011 CTS-V with a CAI and Corsa mufflers. Thanks for the video!
@Late Model Performance What cooling mods do you recommend for a 427cu"/2650 blower combo? In this video you mentioned cooling is important due to bigger everything and i believe in another video you stated that you are not a fan of interchillers. Curious what route you would take?
I think I would prefer if you guys did more step-by-step instillation videos on the superchargers etc. I do think your videos are in general better than rpm content but a little build progression would be even better.
i agree with this
That moment when you fully catch up on all the LMP videos and now you have to wait for weekly vids 😭
My 2017 SS has a JLT CAI and a DiabloSport tuner. I got the AFR between 14.63 and 10.5 but still getting a lean code. 14.6 at idle and 10.5 under WOT is that lean? I'm getting the P0171 and P0174
Finally a new video!! 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
I’ve heard multiple times that the stock blower on a LT4 just blows hot air beyond stock boost and “it just makes more sense to go with a 2650” Thoughts?
More air into the engine as a basic principal first, then add the boost. Boost is a measure of restriction as we know. If your're at 25lbs, then more add more flow at 18lbs is much better and lowers IAT2 temps allowing more timing and less danger of detonation. Seems people forget that these are just air pumps. CFM in, then out is where it's at.
What do you think about the kenne bell 3.6 blower?
Subscribed 💪🏿💪🏿
💢That supercharger whine🤤
Yeah man, loud AF... Blew my ears bigtine 😷😵😁
I'm glad I saw this video. I was going to go with a 2650 so I had room to grow on my 18 v. I will probably do pully meth tune and call it good. I daily drive it in the summer. My wife has a v sport. Has anyone ever done turbo v8 swap in that platform yet?
Steve at LMR ??!! Big W always loved his work
LMP
shit lmaoooo my bad. either way happy for steve!
Question. What heads and cam are on that V ?
6l90 are not junk with the right tuner at the keys, especially built ones.
Ported LSA Blower *ALL* Day!!!
Any other cts v 2 builds coming soon?
Make a video of the SS ;)
I have been running a 2650 blower on my stock 2016 camaro for over 3 years I love the low charge temperature all day every day from California to Arizona. The blower doesn’t care what the outside temp is.
What part of cali? I have a Lsa build
Redondo Beach
@@robertm2172 cool I’m up in the Bay Area. I was considering trying to do a turbo build for my gbody. I snatched a lq4 6.0l for it. Since custom turbo plumbing isn’t so easy for me to solve I’ll probably just do a blower. Put my Lsa setup on the gbody then upgrade my Camaro to 2650 with new heads stg 3 cam nw tb and 5” intake.
I’m deciding if a 2650 is for me on my 408
The video editor person is the one that used to be in rpmotorsport right?
In the beginning did u say the 6L90 were junk transmission? If u did why is that before I go with that same transmission?
So I'm just curious because I'm about to buy a 2650 but for a different reason. I thought the logic was pretty sound that the 2650 could make the same horsepower but the rotors are spinning slower so they make less heat for the same amount of power. So if you're going to make the same power but you're going to be boosting often it would take a lot longer to heat soak your IAT with the 2650 then with the stock blower at the same horsepower. Is that not correct?
You're right the cooling is better. He's saying that if you're not looking for more than 900, then just do cooling mods and keep a stock blower. The 2650 is only really necessary for big power
Do you feel the same way about the LSA?
I see alot of hate for them, but I feel like they would be ok for 700 or less?
The LSA can make great power with some supporting mods.
So I wanted to buy a v2 sedan , can any1 talk about if I should still get it or get the g8 or ss sedan
What's the difference between a kong 2650 supercharger vs a c7 zr1 lt5 supercharger? Is there anything to gain switching to the kong blower?
the blower on the ZR1 is already a 2650 blower, unlike the Z06 or a CTS V
Idk if this is the right way to ask this question, but it aligns with the video pretty well. I have a 2650 setup that seems to be making really low power and I'm not sure why. 427 DART block, M311 heads, 2" headers, 117.0 +4, 246/257, 620/613 cam specs, 3.5/10.0 pulleys, fore triple pump on E85, Connection 2200cc injectors. Only make around 730whp on about 12 lbs of boost with 17 degrees of timing. Injectors are at around 60%, AFR is a little rich at 10 WOT. Should I try just putting a smaller upper on to turn the boost up, or is something else messed up and causing the low power output? My tuner went over everything multiple times but couldn't find anything inherently wrong, either with the tune or mechanically.
Needs more boost
@@chrisogden857 Will do man.
Proper cooling system and Meth injection will help alot.
Hey bro. I have a V2 A6 sedan. The setup Jokerz is stock ported blower, snout and throttle body. All cooling mods. Texas speed PDS blower cam. ID 1000 and Deatschwerks dual pump with DSX flex fuel setup. Pulley setup is 2.38 upper a d 9.25 lower, boost at 15 min to 18 sometimes. I make 710whp pump and 887whp e85. My timing is at 20 degrees with 315' elevation. I think your whp is low due to you timing and boost. Your DA could also play a big role. You have a very stout setup for reliability. I say turn up you TIMING and BOOST, assuming you have your COOLIING mods done properly and let her eat!!!!! Good luck with you setup!!
@@baybiboy1 Agreed. 17 deg timing at 12 psi is pump gas level at best, not E85. And 10:1 is too rich. Ton more power even without adding boost.
Hummm y love it the cars
Whats some good headers
Does bob have fb or instagram? I’d like to see more of that c10. Just picked up a 71 myself
Yes! Alexc_johanson
I’d rather listen ,and learn from anyone who’s decent at tuning..I turned a wrench for almost 30yrs since 1987-88 till a motorbike crash..anyone who thinks they can’t learn no matter their time wrenching will get left behind..
That’s v is bad ass. When you said “no” to the meth not being in there 😳😳
What boost level do you guys generally feel safe at with SBE LT1?
Don’t do it lol
The shop where I take my Camaro ss has taken them to 850 rwhp safely sbe when whipple comes out with the new 3.0 I’ll be taking my 2020 ss to 850
@@6.2murderhornet43 crank or to the wheels?
@@captainohsowavy def not SBE LT1 lol
@@kolbyhumbert2680 lmao facts I was going to say big cap!
I can see turbo or twins but def not with a whipple or Maggie
No way I also have a hertz Camaro and it’s been modified and was wondering if I can have my tcm sent out to y’all to have it unlocked and tuned?
TCM needs to go to HP tuners to be unlocked and we need the car + the TCM to be tuned.
@@LateModelPerformance it’s the 2020 with the t93 They said they can’t unlock it
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Does he say its at 16 degrees timing?
The fastest Coyote cars in the world are remote tuned. Can’t be that hard for LS / LT
Was it a 10inch lower or a 10% lower(8.66)
It says 10% but i seriously doubt that kind if power would come from a 8.66 lower. Plus it has a triple idler.
Random suggested video. But that voice, it sounds so familiar...
Boost goes up efficiency goes down. Weak cam stock heads boost will go up, and it takes even more power to drive the blower.
What ramp speed are you guys using because that run is like 3 seconds. Curious why you don’t actually use a rate that is more relatable to real world ramp rate. I’m using around 180 on a main line hub. Looks like you guys are using like 400? At that rpm rate the IAT wouldn’t even heat up to a real world pull. Very curious as to why. Thanks and love the vids!
Ramp speed on it is 300. Mainline says you want to run the ramp “time” in high gear very close what it would be at the track. The start speed has a lot to do with it to. A th400 car is in 3rd gear at the track longer then a 10l90 would be in 6th gear for. I set up different ramp speeds for diffferent transmission types. But typically 4.5/5.1 second range is what we use. If you lug a blower/turbo/nitrous car down to much really bad things will happen
@@allisonbledsoe8921 Yeah being in Australia i have dealt with mainline a lot and use mostly mainline dynos. I know what Mainline say but they are far from a tuner that tunes every single day developing tunes for cars. Reason i question it is because ive seen people using these ramp rates making over 1000hp. Then at the drags the cars are slow because the IATs are super high because a 1/4 mile is say 10 seconds but their dyno run is 4 seconds and then by half track the engine is pinging or pulling timing or the afr is going super lean due to the fuel pumps not keeping up etc. Then these guys cant understand why their 1000hp cars are running high 10's. Thanks for the response though, i enjoy seeing other people theory behind stuff. Keep up the great vids.
@mototune we actually trans tune on the dyno to. we will launch and them and do a 8/9/10 second simulation and tune off of that as well. We have never had a issue with iats being a issue or 1000whp csr running 10s but I do get what your saying
That 2650 sounds ludicrous like a demon is coming alive jesus
To think this guy totaled this CTSV😒. seen the forums this guy wrecked a masterpiece. You can have to money with no skill or the skill and no money. Either way you can never have everything
Why would someone spend thousands of dollars on their car and then try to cheap out on the tune? It just doesn’t make sense.
Hey bro hmu
RUclips comments can get lost in the shuffle so we put our email in the description of each video so people can get in touch with us. office@LMPofMD.com
Why we have to wait like a month for content?
Well 1. It was 2 weeks not a month 2. It was over the Christmas Holiday break 3. it’s winter and tracks are closed. But thanks for watching 👍
Why don’t you just appreciate the fact they are putting out any content at all, much less this very improved content with the new videographer.