Five Worst Arguments in Flat Earth Debate: Analysis With FTFE
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2022
- Many of you saw my brutal evisceration of flat earth con man David Weiss. Friend to the channel FTFE asked me to come on his show for a lengthy analysis of all the idiocy that came out of Weiss's mouth during that exchange, and we decided to cut together a little highlights reel from that discussion, complete with additional graphics just to really drive home how stupid Weiss is. Here are the five dumbest talking points he put forward. Enjoy!
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You missed a really simple one for #1. He claimed that it was not possible to get sunburned during the winter. Many skiers and snowboarders would absolutely disagree with that.
Quite a few Eskimos would as well. Also there is such a thing known as snow blindness where the brightness of the sun overhead plus the reflections from the snow combine to burn out your eyes if you don’t wear the right eye protection.
He: yOu cAn'T gEt sUnBuRn dUrInG wInTeR.
Me: B*TCH DO YOU THINK THE SUN JUST DISAPPEARS THREE MONTHS EVERY YEAR?!
@@Isolder74 this would explain why they invented those interesting goggles with vertical square holes in them. To keep the snow and excess light out.
You get sunburned from the underside too, due to reflection off the snow.
Well I suppose if your close enough to the poles you can't get sunburnt on account of the complete lack of sun
I bought a can of Pringles, and when I opened it, spectroscopy came bursting out.
Lmao
Lmfao!!!
Kekw
Underrated comment lol
You can only really
Measure spectroscopy in a Pringle’s can everyone knows that
As a physics major that has been taking mostly waves courses for the past year, I almost offed myself when I heard him say "spectroscopy measures gasses"
He's so proud to be at the top of the Dunning-Kruger diagram...
I thought I heard wrong for a second. I just finished chem labs2 a few months ago and I had to rewind like hmm that’s definitely not what it was😂
🤦
@@osmo80 you have zero understanding of what you just posted 🤣. Just because you lost something doesn't mean you understood it.
@@osmo80 nothing you copied and pasted says Spectroscopy measure gasses. Spectroscopy is a study OF ALL THINGS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KINDS OF ELEMENTS IT IS MADE OF. It isn't strictly gas. EVERYTHING REFLECTS LIGHT AND DEPENDING THE COLORS THEY REFLECT BACK, YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT ITS MAKE UP.
You're definitely a flerf, you argue like a flerf, and you act like a flerf, and moronic like a flerf.
Flat Earth Rule 11: Always say that Neil Degrasse Tyson said something.
Literally got to that part and now I'm giggling
Creationist rule 5: always say that darwin said something
don't forget to miss quote him as well.
Just an actor. It's in his bio.
“Your entire existence is being a dick. To all of science.”
This is god tier evisceration.
Eh, I think it more so makes him come off like a child who can't contain his emotions during a debate.
@@dankwarmouse6248 believing in a flat earth is far more childish
@@dankwarmouse6248 More indicative of the frustration for quality of the flat earth arguments. It's tiring, and insulting.
@@dankwarmouse6248 This was also said im response to this flat earther asking "why are you such a dick?" to Dave.
@@rickitynick4463 I mean, this is a thing we all have to do. Like half of life is dealing with people who have stupid opinions. If you can't change their mind without insulting them, you'll never change their mind by insulting them. Dude's a teacher, shouldn't he be mindful of this? You can obliterate someone in a debate without resorting to literally calling them names, lol.
"There is no place with 17 hours of sun." I could literally see the sun in the sky for 17 hours TODAY where I live in Canada. It rose at 5:05 AM and set at 10:07 PM. It's called the summer solstice.
You Southerner, we had 18.5 hrs today :)
@@baconghoti Nice! Ha, yeah, I live in Edmonton. Only about 500 km north of the US border, compared to the 1200 km of the territory southern borders.
Yep - the day is 17 hours 33 minutes here in Central Scotland today. Although I can't actually see the sun, only the rainclouds!
I guess they would argue you are a lying stooge, just as I must be for claiming 7 days without darkness and the sun being visible at midnight when I visited Nordkapp 🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@steffannicholson9959 More than likely. This is why I never directly engage with these people. Watching others debate them can be funny, but never myself. It's not worth debating something I know I'm objectively right in.
He actually said day light does not come from the sun. All you need to know about this con-man.
"How do you know the moon is solid?"
Because we LANDED ON IT.
And on it there are craters which never move, but which cast shadows, all which can be easily observed with a cheap amateur telescope.
Or the solar eclipise proves not even that intense light can get through it.
"We" landed on it? You mean you landed on it? That's why you know it, okay. 😂
We brought back rocks. And planted a flag, in the solid ground
Not to mention, if it weren’t solid. Why is the moon pattern all the same for years? Surely flat earthers understand gases and liquids move. I don’t know much about science but it’s so funny how even a 5 year old knows more than these weirdos.
And I like his “how would you know?” points. You could ask him back, how would you know that the earth is flat? Some weirdo told you?
Stupidest thing he said was:
"If I wake up in the morning and face North, the sun rises in the East on my right, and travels over my shoulder to my left. But if the next morning I face South, THE SUN RISES ON MY LEFT, AND TRAVELS OVER MY SHOULDER TO MY RIGHT!!! HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE SUN CHANGING ITS TRAJECTORY?"
I was like.... There is. NO WAY. Somebody is actually THAT STUPID.
No... surely not! I must've missed that. How can someone be so clueless???
Confirmed, they believe that they are the center of the universe.
Completely insane belief
To explain why this is stupid:
Left and right only describe positions relative to the orientation of your own body. East and west are not relative to your body. They are relative to either the magnetic poles of the Earth, or the rotation of the Earth around its axis. Either way works, and the magnetic poles hold true even if you reject a spherical model of Earth.
The sun rises in the magnetic east and sets in the magnetic west, regardless of your body's orientation. That's why it can rise on your left one day, and on your right the next. The sun's trajectory across the sky has not changed. Only your orientation has changed. As another poster said, you are not the centre of the universe. The sun does not revolve around you.
You’re completely right. That was what a 4 year old child would think
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray. But 10/10 for trying Prof. Dave.
the war on misinformation is a long one, but once people like flat earthers finally realise how dumb they are, it would cause a chain reaction and slowly cause less and less people to be dumb
I much prefer this one:
"Your entire existence is being a dick" - Prof Dave. Epic
No, he definitely won lol. hands down. In gamer terms, one can say that DIRTH got "wrecked".
@@lmoral222 properly t-bagged
This wasn't about "winning an argument" with a stupid person, it was all about pointing out how stupid someone is, not for them, but for people watching the video.
"stop being a dick"
"You stop being a dick"
Dave's facial expression is priceless
which dave?
Watching this reminded me of something my favorite comedian once said: "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." --George Carlin
@@Globeisahoaxx yeah, because every planet in the universe is basically a Circle EXCEPT THE EARTH
Very Logic
@@Globeisahoaxx No, its a circunference, a globe, like the Sun, The Moon and the rest of planets
By the way, he just block me xD
So, i gonna say it here.
Realms like Norse Mythology stuff or what?
And you can use a Telescope to just see the Moon.
Its not a "light", that, by the way, needs energy to sustain, energy that does not exist in the moon, because its a piece of rock that is created for a astronomic event billions of years in the past.
And by the way, you do you explain the sea moves then? If there isnt a Moon
Whenever professor Dave debates an elementary school dropout I feel like I’m gaining and losing brain cells simultaneously
Exactly. A bit frustrating, not sure why he/we bother to undertake this experience.
Kindergarten dropout, more like. Even a literal toddler these days should've seen a globe at some point without throwing a fit over a damn sphere.
My head fking hurts with this flat earthers, Im not exaggerating or joking, I am literally having a fkin headache everytime I hear any of them.
Huh 😂 I
Dad is on his end of
I'm impressed you managed to narrow it down to the five worst, given how bad ALL their arguments are.
LMAO .... that is true tho. Anytime Prof Dave would say an arguement that completely tears down the entire idea, FTE Dave just moved on and just started spitting jargon in random orders... so he made absolutely no sense in any of his arguements.
This should be a multi-part series.
Excellent point
When all this flat-earth nonsense started to build up hype, I honestly, truthfully thought it was 1 giant prank or troll just to wind the world up, then learning these people were actually being serious, I had to sit quietly by myself and wonder how these people are allowed out of their houses unsupervised.
You should look into some of it. It makes more sense then u think.
The one question I would ask any flat earther is WHY would there be a worldwide conspiracy to make everyone think the earth is round if it’s actually flat?
All conspiracies work the same. flat earth, bigfoot, religion, antivaxx, all of it. conspiracy thing->a powerful cabal is behind it->the jews.
It's simple they are hiding the truth from you just to keep you away from God (NASA means to deceive in Hebrew).Flat Earth proves that there is a God and it's in the bible.
I just love Shauns face through the whole thing. He looks like he's having to hold back from unmuting his mic and just laughing his rear off at FE Dave.
As someone who studied with (and to a small extent helped) people who did research spectroscopy the phrase “spectroscopy has to be a container” physically hurt
Is it possible he meant "it needs a container" as in, when you're in a high school or college class, you put the gas in a container and place it right up against the spectrometer to prevent interference? For students that makes it easier, but obviously experts can account for any confounding factors like that when they're measuring the real world
@@PopperOfCorn let's not give people that believe the earth is flat any benefit of doubt because again they think the earth is flat. That shows us all where they are on the intelligence spectrum. The sad part is they know more facts about the globe and the physics of the globe then most people, the problem is they think that all of those things are not true. So again it shows where they are on the intelligence spectrum. They must have been using the flat earth GPS system when going to pick up there intelligence when "GOD" was handing it out. It is sad that my 6 year old hears some of what they say and even she looks confused and says they are wrong. It is actually really funny to see a 6 year old knowing more then grown adults.
The other issue that I have with these morons is the fact that they all want to use information from hundreds of years ago because they think it supports what they think, when it has all been proven wrong sonmany times. That and the show us proof, you do and they cry it is fake or CGI. Like NASA has the ability to produce real time CGI of astronauts doing tours of the ISS. How stupid are these people.
And for this idiot and all others that say the atmosphere is in a container (dome, firmament or whatever else they claim) I just want to see them go up in a airplane to 30 or 40 thounds feet and de-pressureize the plain and not use supplemental oxygen. See how well it works out for them because if the atmosphere is in a container it would uniformly distribute in that container so they should not need supplemental oxygen to survive.
I got multiple other logic bombs for ya: latitude can only exist when the Earth's rotation.
@@PopperOfCorn well, if that’s what he meant it’s a null point. What people do for ease in an elementary introduction class has little to do with what’s actually required. He also had the chance to clarify so I’m pretty sure he meant what he said, that spectroscopy requires a container.
Professor Dave, you got me a $30 tip at my job as a server. I had a customer who was asking me strange questions, and the last one he asked was “Flat Earth or Round Earth? Don’t worry this won’t effect your tip” and I answered round. And he said “you don’t think it’s flat? You think it’s like a globe?” And I said yeah. I expected him to be a flat earther and so I quickly said “do you know Professor Dave? He speaks a lot on this subject” my costumer then said with a smile “oh yeah I know all about Dave. That’s all, you did good today” and left me a $30 tip.
Dude think about it lol the only person who would ask that randomly is someone who doesn’t think the earth is a globe lmao you got your tip from a flat earther! Probably felt bad for you when you said you watch fake prof dave.
@@NotYourCitizenAnymore fake prof Dave?
@@Algorithm_God_Cult it was obviously a joke dude move on
@@alecwalker7485 i just said "fake prof Dave?"
I would move on if you just said it was a joke lol
what kind of costume did your costumer make for you?
"how do you know the moon is solid? "
👏the stupud question ive ever heard in my life
If the Moon isn't a solid then how the hell did Apollo 11 land on the surface.
Dozey Flat Dave lives on pizza world.
When they say how can the sun burn with no oxygen in space is by far the dumbest thing a flat eather has said while thinking they were smart and figured it out
@@PalladiumTVBecause they didn't land on the moon. It's all faked CGI 😂😂😂
@@mrtree1368The sun burns off hydrogen and other gases. Do you know what hydrogen comes from? Water.
One of the most powerful elements.
You know the firmament is described as separating the waters above(heavens) from the waters below(earth).
No one has been past the firmament. So no one has been or ever will get to space.
I can't believe yall fall for the space talk 😂
@@fcarter3863ok…do u think it’s possible to go the moon ever? What if there’s another moon landing in 2070? I assume that will be fake too right? So, basically leaving our planet is not possible?
“How do you know that the moon is solid?” That man… he really just said that didn’t he? 😂
There's no such thing as 'mainstream' science. There's SCIENCE and the rest is bunkum.
"mainstream science" is just as good as "scienceism" at indicating the person saying it has literally no clue how science works. It is akin to putting an " I am scientifically illiterate but like to comment on it anyways" badge on
Diarmuid, you must be Oirish. Astrophysics is not science. It's scientism.
@@hickswasright Astrophysics is part emperical, part theoretical- it doesn't claim to the contrary, though. You can deny the validity of the theoretical portions in good faith (though I would expect a reason for dismissal), but it is by no means "scientism."
"This is our best explanation based on what we can see and observe" leaves open the possibility for a better or different explanation. Scientists know that a working theoretical explanation isn't absolute. I don't understand how one conflates this as being similar to blind faith in something
@@Krugis i appreciate your level headed comment and as you say the theoretical is not a "be all and end all". Sadly, Diarmuid is a believer. You know that real science is not afraid of new evidence or review, and Eric Dubay and Dave Weiss have introduced new questions. Simply shouting down is not good enough in my opinion.
@@hickswasright did you even read his comment? I don't think you did.
"Winning a argument with a smart person is hard.But winning a argument with a idiot is impossible."
Because they keep and keep on trying but always bust themselves
Sooooo fkng true!
It's why I always say I'll never try to convince someone the sky is blue.
It's patently obvious and self-evident. If someone is denying that, it's obvious they NEED it to be some other color, and logic and facts can never overcome that need.
You don’t need to convince an idiot. Eventually he will contradict himself as he has no clue on what he is talking about
@@cryptojihadi265 technically, the "sky" isn't very well defined... and even after disregarding that bit, it's not really blue. I used to think it's transparent / colourless, but iirc i stumbled upon a minute physics video that said it was purple / violet, based off of the actual wavelengths. Now, if you had said "APPEARS blue" instead of "is," then sure, i couldn't have argued with that, it definitely appears as if it were blue. ^^
I disagree. Winning an argument with an idiot is easy because convincing them they are wrong isn't required.
The part about 24 hours sun is kinda funny to me because im Swedish. You just have to travel up north here and you can see the sun all day long. It never sets in places like Kiruna. Its just as light during the day as the night. So he can just travel to Sweden to see the sun for 24 hours straight. It happens between may and July. Its a really wierd feeling because if you wake up during the night you get so confused on what time it is, is it morning or did you just go to bed? Its just as bright.
And if he dont like the sun, just come during winter and you only get to see the sun for a short time during the day, its mostly just dark.
So yeah, no problem seeing the sun 24 hours here. And Sweden is nice during that time, so just for him to buy a ticket 😊
@@Globehoax Days are shorter south of the equator when you have long days at your house, chief. Does the garden of eden move?
@@Globehoax south is south, "bottom of the sphere" is a fictional concept invented by the mentally infirm to push a narrative, as even most grade schoolers understand that spheres do not have tops or bottoms
Nice non sequitur, though. So, answer my question: why are the days longer in the south when they're shorter up north? Does Eden move? How does the sun move over the entire tropic of Capricorn during southern hemisphere summer every day without speeding up in the sky? It's over twice as long of a line on your map, chief
Can you also precisely explain how the longer days work down there in general? With the sun moving so much further, it sure is odd that all these places on opposite sides of the disc from each other all get 16+ hour days in the heart of their summer months
Hmmm
@@Globehoax Traditionally, but there's not really a bottom or a top
He doesn't even have to buy a ticket to Sweden he can just do it in the good old United States and go up to Alaska where I am from and often witnessed the same thing you did.
I think it's pretty neat you can experience roughly the same sort of really long "days" and "nights" in both of those places, given they're pretty far apart geographically speaking. There's probably some explanation for it I don't currently get, but man. The world gets cooler the more you learn about stuff.
"How do you know that the moon is solid?"
fr?
"your entire existence is being a dick to all of science" that's one of dave's best burns imo
Very similar comment to Golden Age of Dinosaurs, something tells me there are a lot of bots commenting agreeing with Dave the shill.
@@orlylooli lmfaoooo
@@orlylooli never even saw this until now but this has to be the hardest i've ever cringed in my entire life
@@zachnado69 its still flat
@@ifkdatherogue9852 nope
I'm from Africa, educated in Africa and have a logical mind (as all of us do). I can't believe that there are people in a supposed first world country that think the effing world is flat. There are ancient tribes in Africa that worked out that the world is a globe.... Man keep this up, makes us 3rd worldersfeel smart
Us ladies and lads living in America are none too pleased with them either
I find it particularly egregious considering how much easier having the time and access to basic education is here than in most parts of the world
They voluntarily waste an opportunity literally billions wish they could have so that they can yell "daylight doesn't come from the sun"
Disgusting
You are as smart as everyone else around the globe! "Education" is something else than "intelligence" or "being smart". Superstitious and stupid beliefs are even independant of being educated or smart. We're having a lot of issues with anti-vaxxers and superstitious alternative medicine in my country. This is actually *more* common among smart, educated people! They start to believe, that they can be educated in every topic and alternative medicine is easier to understand, whereas seeing through their bulls**t can actually be difficult.
Greetings to Africa 🥰🥰🥰
@@Mossyz. greetings to you :))
Flat Earthers lie about the ancient cultures thinking Earth is flat. What about the Sumerians, Mayans, Aztecs, etc?
These cultures didn't think the planet was flat either.
The Dave Dave debate is my go to when on a drive. Never gets old!
Thank you for this follow up! I was truly sad when the discussion came to an end. My facial expression mirrored Shaun’s the whole time 😂 I truly cannot believe that this topic is resurfacing AGAIN. Thank you again, these debates destroy my faith in humanity and completely rebuild it by the time all of the points have been addressed.
Our Dave hitting the other Dave with "You don't have a model" gets me every time.
Lmao, "Our Dave," that sounds hilarious. I love looking at these comments where everyone has to specify which Dave they're talking about. It's unfortunate that our man has to share the same name with such a goofy ass conspiracy theorist nutjob.
And literally flat Dave is like “Hey don’t be mean to meeeee!”
Prof Dave was just bathing is this jokers stupidity
@@Boomblast57 "Your entire existence is being a dick to all of science" is a crazy quote
@@zach1425 "but also accurate"
"WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?"
“Dave Dave stop being a dick.” That was his response he didn’t even bother trying to show his model 😂
It's amazing how a "flat earth model" needs to change all the time to account for different thing like season, day and night, etc. But a globe can explain all of it without changing a single thing. Crazy how that is
Yeah NASA must obviously be manipulating reality to fit the globe model smh my head
And that alone proves why the earth isn’t flat
Yeah but the globe needs to be in a container right?
@@1234567marks you almost got me lol
@@1234567markslol man
I don't know why I watch these. All they do is give me a headache and frustrate me. The mental gymnastics flat earthers perform is honestly worthy of a world championship.
@@Globehoax you have no idea what the word truth means
One more amazing thing: he said that moons should fly towards the sun because its gravity is stronger. But that would also mean that our bodies should fly to the sun in his deranged mind.
He doesn't understand that gravity decreases the further you go from an object SQUARED, MEANING THAT IT GETS WEAKER VERY VERY FAST
I had an argument online with 'Pete & Pete' recently about the existence of gravity. When I asked how he can feel the weight of an object in his hand, he said it's not because of gravity, it's just that 'the object is heavy'. I mean, how do you argue with someone so extraordinarily dumb?
you don't. you just walk away and find some tylenol.
Me an intellectual: Object in hand isn't heavy because of gravitational force, but because of force you are using to hold it in place...
but i guess the whole thing about mass bending space time will make flat earthers' brains melt
Priceless...😅
When the best move is not to play
@@zeusonolympus123 Then you should read what is the definition of theory in science, it's vastly different that a common use of this word.
Theories can never become facts.
Fact is an observation.
Based on observation you create an hypothesis.
If you prove the hypothesis to a certain degree, then it becomes a theory.
Misunderstanding on what theory is in science is a common reason for misinterpretation and saying "it's just a theory"
To be fair, David Weiss wasn’t trying to use the word “magnet”, he thought declination was the smart sounding word that he was trying to con people with.
While not understanding what that word means.
Wut (nvm i misunderstood who it was directed at) lol
And thought that big college word would trip the professor up. LOL. What a schmuck!
I suspect what David was trying to do is imply that the local variance of the direction of the geomagnetic field would confuse some people's sense of cardinal directions. Little does he know that Mintaka and η Aquarius each rise at due east and set at due west for everyone and that a point roughly between Achemar and The Southern Cross is due south and that local cardinal directions can be accurately determined by tracking any star that appears to travel a large angular distance across the night sky. (Take three unit-length beatings of a star A, B, C over two decent time intervals. Calculate N′ = (C−B)⨯(B−A). N = N′(1/||N′||) is the vector to the celestial north pole, which may be turned into azimuth and elevation at leisure.)
I love this. Magnetic declination is just the angle between the geographic North and the magnetic North. Its just a measurement. He might as well have said age.
“How can 2 people looking in different direction see the same stars?”
“MAGNETS!”
These made me laugh so much, especially the daylight one. Thank you guys!
I had a conversation with my sister about flat earth "arguments". I said that if earth was a flat disc then according to Newton's law of universal gravitation your weight would be different if you travel south for instance to another country, and the weight wouldn't be perpendicular to the Earth's surface. She asked: "So what if the law of gravitation was wrong?" To which I responded: "The only way to sustain the flat earth hypothesis is to deny all science ".
Exactly, all technology including the device she is watching the video on depends on that same science.
They have to deny gravity for flat earth to have a chance
I think it's hilarious that people who believe the Earth is a globe base all their theory on what they've been told.. you've never even left the Earth's surface, but you're so sure you're right 🤣 that's like giving a review for a restaurant you've never eaten at... You're all pushing a narrative that you've been indoctrinated to push. Why are you so beside yourself if people believe the Earth is flat? Does it affect you personally? Your ignorance is astounding that you think you need to ridicule somebody who believes differently than you when your thought process isn't going to get you anywhere any faster. We're all going to live and we're all going to die and we're all going to pay taxes whether the Earth is flat or not so sit down and shut up
@@JessiQT17 What are they saying then ?
@@saywhat524 flattards don't have a consensus
Some say we're in a "cup" or concave and others say it's a plane that stretches forever with alternate dimensions beyond an ice wall
Some say it's a flat surface with a dome like a planetarium...
I'm like, oh really? Tell me less
"you dont have a model" thats true and the easiest way to piss them off
Some non-flerf tried to make a model. 838 attempts later and still no model.
@@cxpKSip I tried it too, gave up after literally twenty. Man has dedication.
Why didnt made their god a model/plans of it? 😉
Oh, they have a model alright, it's just made up fantasy garbage and it's not consistent. They use it to explain one thing but then their model doesn't work for other issues. However, a spherical earth and heliocentric solar system works just fine in all situations.
@@iggysfriend4431 Their "explanations" all fail due to being either inconsistent with observations, or internally inconsistent - or being simply nonsense. Their misunderstanding and misuse of scientific words also invalidate their puny efforts.
When I’ve heard him saying “Spectroscopy needs to be in a container”, live during the debate, I just couldn’t stop laughing! I couldn’t believe my ears! 😂 It doesn’t get any dumber than that… Then again we’re talking about flerfs, so the dome is the limit… 😂
idk, the daylight not coming from the sun might in fact top that... :-)
Actually, it did get dumber than that, especially when the kept talking about the Equator. Dude doesn't even know what an Equator is and that it literally cannot even exist on a flat earth.
Thank you so much for your service!
“You don’t understand the flat Earth Model-” “You don’t have a model.”
As much as I would like australia to be giant, it's sadly not.
>Sees new Professor Dave flat earth video
>Goes to comments
>sorts by newest
>grabs popcorn
Haha I do that whenever I'm bored
So I had to recommend this to my mother and she was just laughing her ass off..
Nice work Dave It was definitely fun! 👉🏻
Here's a question for Flat-Earth Dave: If the world is flat, then explain what a sunset is.
Where does the sun go when it goes down over the horizon? If the sun lowers past the horizon on the flat-earth model, then the entire plane would be dark (apart from the underside), which is not the case in real life. How would a sunset occur on a flat-earth model, while still lighting up exactly half of the plane?
I would love to see a Flat-Earther explain this.
Dont know about this guy specifically but lots of flat earthers say how human beings have their own personal domes that move with them. So one side of the flat earth has a certian set of stars while the otherside has a different set of stars, these personal domes change when you move place to place. Yes, its as stupid as it sounds, but if i had to guess thats probably what he would respond with. Not a flat earther just watched professor daves other flat earth debunks and common arguments they use.
The annoying thing about all of this is that on their flat earth channels they like to pretend that they won the debate.
It’s wild man. They say things that are proven “make no sense” then act super cocky with a response that isn’t based on any research and think it’s gospel
That truly is annoying. They're too stupid to realize defeat and they just come back with their nonsense again and again, and with dumb confidence on top of it.
Because they are all retards.
"The water bulges at the equator 14 miles high." Comments like this literally made my brain hurt, but thank you for your patience and calm and clear explanations in the face of the irrational.
yeah I had to rewind the vid multiple times in that part because I just could not believe that I avtually heard him saying that.. it's absolutely mind bemding how stupid the things he says are..
I'd say that was a pretty good example of how they think they disprove the globe model.
They look at some things said by scientists, fail to understand it, misinterpret that even further, and then try to apply that to what we see.
"The water bulges at the equator 14 miles high". That must look awesome if you're standing on land, at the equator, looking out at the ocean!
@@haydnfidler9030 you cant see it cause of magnetic declination...
(kidding ofc)
@@haydnfidler9030 you cant see it cause of magnetic declination...
(kidding ofc)
"how do eclipses exist?"
"the water is tall"
The “con” in conman is short for confidence. Weiss acts confident and people believe him and honestly does a good job because of his following but this doesn’t exactly make him smart
The only bad part of that debate was how short it was. I could watch hours and hours of Professor Dave debunking dumb Flat Earthers live. lol
But it's EXHAUSTING! Lololol
I'm advocating another "debate" between Prof Dave, and the other Allegedly Dave.
@@troyajohnson26 This is the science version of the Josh Fight. The Winner gets to keep the name Dave and the science stays the same.
@@troyajohnson26 The pee-drinker? Yes he got the "big smart".
I have watched every video Prof Dave has made on flat earth, some of them more than once. They are so well done. I watch a lot of his other videos as well.
I love that a while ago when you originally started to debunk flat earthers, you said that this would be last of it and you didn't stop.
Their stupidity needs to be shown to the world. And your no nonsense approach is refreshing.
Idiocy never stops around here. Let the FE debunks keep coming.
@@blakksheep736
100% mate.
It's likely only a tiny portion of the world that has a hardcore belief in FE. It's just the internet concentrates them and make it seem like it's a lager movement than it is.
Westboro Baptist Church is an example. It only had like 50 members but still managed to get wold wide attention. I don't think their numbers have swelled to any great degree.
I do think Dave's approach of berating and belittling his opponents can be counter productive as it makes him look like a bully, and doesn't advance the argument. Sure it makes his follower feel good at poking fun of other people, but IMHO not the way to go.
It just helps give them a bit of a martyr status to their followers.
@@Cheepchipsable
Pulling someone up when they are being total dishonest and not accepting the fact when they are wrong would be very frustrating to deal with.
The problem with society and the way it is going is that you cannot outright tell people when they are wrong these days and you have to consider their feelings.
Well the way the world works doesn't car about your feelings or total misunderstandings of the world.
@@Cheepchipsable TBH I don't mind the berating and belittling of the opponent - especially in this case because the guy he was debating was clearly a grifter. I'm not even sure he believes ANY of the nonsense he was saying. It's true though that some will see him as a bully but TBH, there will always/also be people that will never believe it no matter what ANYONE does.
I saw a joke a while ago about a Flat Earther dying and actually going to heaven... and the first question he asked Peter was: "Answer me this one question I've lived my life fighting people about. Is the Earth flat?" to which Peter looks at him and says: "No. It most certainly is not." And the man looks at Peter and says: "The conspiracy went way deeper than we thought."
The mash up of your two different intros was awesome! Keep up the good work!
Daylight is not from the sun was my favourite stupid
Ah, yes, I remember watching this blood bath. He thought Dave was being a big meanie head jerk to him the whole time but Dave was having none of that. Dave pointed out to him a few times that DITRH was being a jerk to the entire science community by peddling his pseudoscience. 😂
I mean there were some points that Dave got a little snarky .. but I can't blame him... Flat earth Dave was being a total spanner
I mean, people like FE Dave deserve this tone at this point. There's so many other people that are nicer, Dave's snarky style, while it can appear as mean, is a bit of a refresher.
@@XraynPR, I agree completely. If Prof Dave was being snarky with someone who was asking questions or even doubting mainstream science in good faith then I think the snark would be uncalled for. But this dude, Flat Earf Dave, is a charlatan and was totally deserving of Prof Dave's wrath.
@@XraynPR yeah.. I mean if my 17 year old daughter blurts out "that's not how that works you dolt" while FE Dave was babbling about something stupid... I can't even remember what he said and then my grand daughter was even face palming and she is 6... So yeah.. I'm don't think I could be as nice as Dave was though
Check out Sam Tripoli and Bryan callens conspiracy social club podcast, Bryan debates him going in not knowing how crazy he is. The way he talks to him…I’m surprised he was mad at Dave for being a “prick”
That "Debate" was the most comprehensive take down of flat earth I've ever seen. The constant laughter from the hosts just added to the hilarity 😭😭🤣🤣 It was honestly such an embarrassing performance for Flat Earth Dave lol
I am surprised they stayed as stoic as they did, honestly.
According to flat earth dave he won by a landslide, dude's delusional 😂
@@ryskbotvladimirivanovic1767 flat earther = flat brain
Flat Earth Dave: " If I shout loud I'm right."
"How do you know that the moon is solid"
Flat-Earthers never cease to amaze me
How do you know the earth is solid ?
Lmao it’s funny how all flat earthers look like their genes went through 30 generations of cousins marrying cousins
Thank you Dave. The flat earth debunk was comedy gold. I don't think it could be scripted and be funnier.
u a robot or come from monkeys big bang is a joke
So... I watched the flat earth debate with my 17 year old daughter... And she was literally said something to the effect of "flat earthers lack brain cells, and logic.. time zones, eclipses, and the night sky disprove the flat earth.."
The problem for flerfs is they're stuck in 2D thinking. 3D thinking could make them more of a headache but it would only delay the inevitable.
Then you went, "Wait a second, I don't have a daughter!" and pulled off her wig, revealing that it was actually Professor Dave the entire time.
OP: "But... why did you bother with a wig that looks exactly like your normal hair?"
PD: " *I'm* wondering why you didn't notice the beard."
@@lnsflare1 ok dumb joke. But somehow I laughed at the beard part so I will give you proper credit. But im letting you know I'm not happy about it.
And everyone clapped
Your kid obviously paid attention in school. Flerfs either drop out or are too stupid to grasp such basic concepts.
*Challenges for flat-Earthers: explain the following...*
• Timezones.
• Plane routes.
• Seasons.
• Sunrises/sunsets.
• The way stars move.
• Solar eclipses.
• Lunar eclipses.
• Tides.
• Northern ice.
• _How come every other celestial object is round?_
Theres actually way more than these ones, like Libration, how refraction/diffraction works, and much more that i cant mention here
Or a rainbow. Or my favorite, WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE LIE ABOUT THE SHAPE OF THE EARTH?
Obviously the FEer answer would be laugh emojis and a rant about NASA hiding God.
*Gravity...LIKE HOW WOULD IT WORK ON A FLAT EARTH
They have explanations for all of these. The problem is most of those explanations contradict each other.
U gotta love how Dave can make really complex things be stripped down to a very simple explanation
The actual debate was so amazing and so horrifying at the same time. There were times I had to close my eyes and cover my ears because it was too painful, but then I had to watch, and then turn away again, but then keep watching. Thank you prof Dave. Someone needs to slam dunk these dangerous morons and that was an absolute murder.
Mental Damage.
You think these morons are dangerous? In what way? They are totally deluded but I can't see how they can be dangerous.
The hardest part was him telling BS, getting disproved and just continuing proposing another made up example. Like a Vicky from Little Britain: Yeah, but no , but yeah, but....It either is or is not a pancake FlatEarthDave! So saddening, and the blank stare you get from him while getting feedback is telling.
I loved watching Shaun's face light up each time Prof Dave dunked on Dum Dave. Like a kid in a toy store, just pure bliss.
this debate was tame compared to some of FTFEs regular discussions
I feel like FlatEarthDave studied more in the field of gaslighting than anything else
Gaslighting? I see no fire or flames.
@@Soul_Flow_ gaslightning making someone doubting their reality (according to urban dictionary which most of them says that)
@@karljohan2541 which dave
is it dave or is it dave
@@theendbringermenace they're talking about Dave, not Dave. Hope this helps!
@@connmanw7953 man im not too sure if he is talking about dave
and not dave
2:09 "how do you know the moon is solid?"
Bruh I can't anymore
Just found your channel. Best factual explanations I have seen. Also best entertainment in regards to flat brains. 😂
If there was a wall of water 14 miles high you'd think that commercial pilots would have seen it. Since that's about twice as high as they fly
Then they go on the “tHe PiLoTs ArE iN oN THe CoNsPiRaCy” rants
I told this to my friends in South Korea and they didnt believe me that flatearth is a thing in the West. I had to send them the link to Daves debate for them to believe this stupidity exists.
Challenging concepts in reality + Con Artists + Internet =
We Formed a Flat Earth Community!
Have a FE'er in L.A. webcam with one of your friends in S. Korea at sunset.
Have him see the sunrise in Seoul a few minutes later.
Ask him how the sun had smoothly got from this side of the flat earth 🌞 🌎 to this side of the flat earth 🌏 🌞 with neither of you witnessing it jolting.
It really is a money thing. Because of social media a person can get rich peddling falsehoods while not really believing it themselves.
I still don't want to believe anyone is actually that stupid; they must be actor pretending / trolling, right? Right?!
@@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself yeah, I mean there are still ppl out there that believe blden is doing a terrific job. Humanity is dumb af.
True story: I have a friend who's a flat-earther. I told him this $hit is all quackery. His response: "If it comes true, be prepared for your brain to explode."
David Weiss has turned OFF all the comments on his youtube channel...Gee I wonder why.
bro I died when he said on your pizza world
"there's no place on earth that has 17 hours of sun". Weird, there was more than that when I lived in Fairbanks Alaska. And if I had gone up to the artic circle there would have been 24 hours of sun
In the UK the longest days of summer are just under 17 hours. You know, the United Kingdom, famously devoid of millions of people who witness this inconceivable phenomenon yearly
You must work for NASA then, probably for big bucks.
Or they just move the goalpost to 18, 20, 24, then 25.... There prove a 25 hours of sun a day, or else it must be flat.
@@AquaCoalaNest There's only 24 hours in a day, so yeah, it's impossible to have 25 hours of sunlight.
@@bradshagrin8352 That's literally his point.
IF the earth was flat, don't you think the edge would be the biggest tourist attraction ever? Hotels overlooking the "edge", amusement rides tangling you over the "edge", observation decks, money grabbing tours, souvenirs, travel destination, etc
The person who would video it would go down into the history books!! Well worth buying a sail boat and traveling there.
The earth is a triangle shaped marble.
Change my mind.
Honestly that makes more sense than the flat earth model since its less likely to collapse in on itself
"The water bulges at the equator 14 miles high" is like saying that the carpet on my bottom stair is 10 inches thick, on the second stair 20 inches, and so on up the staircase.
I never realised how much smarter I’d feel watching this; a few minutes in, I’d never heard the term “spectroscopy” in my life, but even I knew enough to take the first part “Spectro” and go “okay so in context this sounds like it’d be related to light.” And a guy thinks that just spitballing what the term means and then doubling down when told that it has nothing to do with gas…
I think he got confused with a spectrometry. You use light to measure gases or liquids that are in a container.
TBF, the concept of a "spectrum" applies to more than just light...
If you guys haven’t watched him crush Weiss over and over, you’re missing out. It’s hilarious.
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I watch it almost daily, it looks like Weiss is gonna cry the whole time, he really thought it was gonna go the other way
Im too lazy to sit through all of it tbh
@@matherman1111 It’s absolutely hilarious. He openly, and repeatedly, mocks him and insults him right to his face. It’s A+ comedy
Yeah I've just watched it again...I would say that I cannot believe people think like this but 70-odd million people think donald drumpf is fit to be US president and then it all makes sense, I guess??
Flat Dave came home to his parents, proudly holding a prize for top marks in English. His parents congratulated him, told him they were proud of their son.
The next week, Flat Dave comes home with top marks in French. His parents are thrilled yet again.
The following week, Flat Dave comes home holding a prize for the 100-meter athletic sprint. His parents told him that it was because he's 51 in a class of kindergarteners
Is that supposed to be funny? You really spent 10 mins thinking of writing that?
@@SKing-on9gt I can understand why it's not funny to flat earth morons.
I like "you don't have a model."😂😂😂😂😂😂i watch that video for comedy, and that's my absolute favorite part.
Love when profesor Dave does flat earth videos!
yes, cuz this stuff make him to be more near about us, but like a friend n not like a professor.
I don't know how I got down this rabbit hole but I'm binge watching all your flat earth stuff and it's gold. I love it
sub to FTFE :)
Prof Dave
How on earth do you manage to tolerate this utter crap with such equanimity?
I salute you
u didnt offer any points so
Dr. Dave's intellectual condescendence is glorious 😅😂.
Weiss was correct when he claimed that, in the globe Earth model, the Sun should warm the Earth more when it's directly overhead than when it's at an angle. What he failed to notice is that it's exactly what does happen. It tends to be warmer around noon than it is around sunrise or sunset. His level of oblivion is staggering.
We can't let him forget that he also claims daylight doesn't come from the sun
Basically he can't say anything else with a modicum of credibility after that zinger
The hottest part of the day tends to happen hours after the sun it at its highest point. It’s as if he goes out of his way to ignore how the day works or has never been outdoors in his life. It’s easy to claim that you can’t get a tan in the winter when you never spend more then a few minutes outside. He also uses the detail that the average temperature is cooler making the affects of the sun less obvious right away but in the morning during winter the rising sun does feel warm it’s just colder to start with.
He’s just expecting to have people just believe him without question.
According to his model, my chicken should instantly be room temperature the moment I pull it out of the oven.
@@bdpickett Should we tell him things keep cooking after you take them off the grill or out of the oven?
That’s such an old worker story, that “high noon” has been known about for thousands of years! Has he never worked outside obviously…
Let's just call it like it is. Every flat earth argument is the worst flat earth argument.
And the fact that they believe in it themselves.
I just don’t get it.
You're just slow and don't get it yet.
@@hungryOrbbruh
Watch the video
@@hungryOrbyou have no evidence for your flat fantasy world, none.
the 5 best arguments would convince anyone, which is why it is heavily shadowbanned
Man I could watch Dave destroy flat earthers all day
I have been
This has quickly become my favorite flerf debunk channel.
I love how flerfers struggle with even the simplest questions like "if the earth is flat and the sun and moon are round. Can you explain to me why the moon and sun are round"?
What force made them round and what force keeps them round?
Why are the sun and moon so different in shape to the flat earth? The answers always range so wildly with no real consistency.😂😂😂
The debate was glorious. Seeing an intellectual calling someone a “moron” brought me unimaginable joy
This is a very true statement
Ikr
The irony about spectroscopy is that spectroscopy of the Sun was used to discover the element Helium, which no one had been able to isolate on earth. Eventually, an earthly source of the stuff was discovered, and its spectrum was confirmed.
And who is the biggest purchaser of helium in the earth?
It seems to be that the person failing to understand spectrography seemed to be confusing it for gas chromatography.
How can the earth be flat, when it indeed is Square?
Or a cube?
I love how his only reaction when you said “you don’t have a model” was “you’re being a dick” you’re right. They don’t have a model. Or if they do they have several because NONE of their models can account for things like the weather, sun and moon, etc. I mean they act like the round earth is SOOO complicated while the flat earth is the obvious solution but the round earth is actually the simplest solution. It accounts for everything very easily.
A constantly shifting peppering of ad-hoc explanations which aren't even internally consistent, nevermind consistent with reality.
Yep, people believe in Flerf somehow
@@Krugis For a great laugh - followed by a few years of feeling bad because it'll be at least 10 minutes of your life that you won't be getting back - look at some of the "very scientific" FE-theories of a sub-sect of FE'ers that believe the earth is both flat AND hollow, with another *_spherical_* planet hidden inside it... which is reached through a tunnel on the north pole... which only has one access point, in an ice wall, which NASA/the galactic human government is guarding because that's what our lizzard overlord masters who live on the spherical planet inside the hollow flat earth want them to do. There's a few different sub-sects who all follow their own version of that flat-but-hollow-earth-with-a-spherical-planet-inside nonsense, and they're funnier than any comedic act, at least until you realize they're serious, and then even less funny than not-funny when you realize that you just spent time out of your life listening to their nonsense and you're not getting those minutes back.
@@Krugis imma start using "flerf"
They have like 7 models to explain the individual phenomena, and all of them conflict.
@@fjalac8369 I'm going to use flerf as a slur
Yeah, that debate was a trip.. The constant leaps of illogic that spilled out FEDs mouth was cringe. Thank you for existing Professor Dave.
Like being able to see on the opposite side of your house at 7am. "Does the light go through the house?" Jackass!!! Does he have zero concept how Gimongous the sun is compared to our tiny little piss ant planet, nor the brightness of a nuclear furnace, nor the unfathomable amount of light reaches the 3rd rock from the sun every second. I wonder if his mommy has to still dress and feed him and take him to the potty. But on the other hand, the exasperated look of incredulity on professor Dave's face is both hysterically funny and priceless.
Hey guys I have a picture of the full moon the morning after the eclipse that just recently happened! The sun was at least 5 degrees on my horizon while the moon was sitting at least 30 degrees. Does anyone have a link to a globe simulator that can explain this in the globe model? I have been looking for a couple of weeks now and I can’t seem to find a good one! I’ve asked others and they just say I am lying.
@@NotYourCitizenAnymore no one on this thread is going to answer that question because they all think their thought process to Superior and if you are asking any questions that elude to anything other than we're on a spinning ball, they lose their shit 😂
@@NotYourCitizenAnymore Of course everyone's going to think you're lying if you don't show the picture just claim you have it. Also, I don't see anything wrong with that? Like yeah the Sun and the Moon are most of the time at different positions in the sky except for solar eclipses. Just send a link of the pic.
@@clevergirl6041 Of course we "lose our shit". Denying basic fucking science in 2022 is extremely infuriating. Y'all just tryna act smart, well guess what, you're not.
I liked it when he said " your mainstream science says" 😂😂😂 ...
Back when Weiss was 16 he was proud to be the oldest student in his 2nd grade class.
Professor, I just want to say your debate skills have improved significantly since the last time you debated the other flat earthers. You seemed very well prepared, calm, and overall enjoying yourself. The entire debate was a joy to watch, and this brief recap was also enjoyable. Please keep up the good work.
agreed, compared to his debate with the creationist dude, this debate was fucking brutal and so sharp at the same time. it felt like that last scene from 8 mile where Eminem disses his opponent to the extent that everything around him just collapses and he chokes
@@Guidus125 Is Dave the Eminem of our generation?
@@Andrew-uq6vhlike a scientific Eminem who makes you look stupid by spitting facts
I would disagree since he was pretty much always condescending and insulting the guy 24/7. I know Professor Dave is right and eveything but its not good debate etiquette to insult your opponent and interrupt them all the time
@@nelsonpereira7204 I agree. Name calling… still an educated dude but no need to insult… you lose the objective
I guess you could say...
These arguments fall flat.
I'll see myself out thank you.
*Orson Welles Clap*
*The Who scream*
🥁
*internal suffering*
Exactly my thoughts. Missed opportunity in the title. "Five flat earth arguments that fall flat."
"Gases? The moon is solid."
In his defense, you were so quick to cut him off that you completely missed that he was specifically referring to anything possible in between us and the moon.
spectroscopy is what I use in photoshop and most of my 3d modeling programs (Blender) when it comes time to render
I absolutely lost it when he brought up a picture of the pillars of creation and said "Why isn't it collapsing in on itself?"
I dropped Physics and Chemistry at high school. In the 1980s. I then went on to spectacularly fail Biology. However, watching Professor Dave makes me feel supremely clever and well educated; mostly because I live on a sphere. I’m aware of this. 🥰🏴
hehe scottish
Return to God
Did you pass Witchcraft ?
@@PerfectPyro217 no
@@PerfectPyro217 yes, the flying Spaguetti monster is waiting for us all to return to him. R'amen.
That Fight the Flat Earth intro is fire. Had me headbanging in my room.
We've got
Galileo Galilei,
Isaac Newton,
Albert Einstein,
And Dave Weiss
Gotta love when flat earthers try and apply concepts that only work on a globe. It's like they almost figure it out, but always turn back
You know that moment when you looked at some formula or calculation back in school, staring at it for a while till it made "click" and you go "AAH FINALLY I understand!"
Now imagine flat earthers having a disability that prevents them ever receiving the moment where it clicks, even on elementary school physics concepts.