Debunking the Electric Universe
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2020
- I know that I've become known for my flat earth destructions, but now that I've driven that one so far into the ground that it's coming out the other side of the spherical earth, it's time to tackle some other topics. There exists an obscure fad called the electric universe, which tends to attract exemplars of the Dunning-Kruger effect who think they understand physics better than Einstein. Literally. Although not quite as ridiculous as the flat earth, it's still pretty ridiculous, so let's go through the finer points of precisely why that is the case, shall we?
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I'm glad you debunked the Electric Universe! Now can you help me spread the REAL truth with my Coal-Powered Universe theory?
Dark matter is actually just fossil fuels we can't see
That EU stuff is obvious bunk. But CPU is where the serious science is done.
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Wow ... is it therefore a steam powered universe .. ?
like a Victorian universe ?
Do I need a top hat ? .... please say yes .. this sounds like the best universe so far ... sign me up
In 1899 Charles Duell, US patent office, said
"everything that can be invented has been invented."
So ... that’s it then
@@nasapayrollsystem8701 You're in! Top hats and bowlers are equally acceptable, but top hats add that extra panache.
You're all wrong! According to Wikipedia:
_Electric Universe is the thirteenth studio album by Earth, Wind & Fire, released in November 1983 on Columbia Records._
*Damn right!*
You jive turkey. Muahahaha
@@truu-dl8rp Electric Ladyland is there. Lol
Wikipedia lies. Electric Universe at first is a great psytrance band!
I love me some EWF
0:25 Are you two friends?
Flat Earth: Yes.
Electric Universe: No.
Hahaha
Not a clever way to address a scientific theory.
@@LeeGee scientific theory
more like
pseudoscientific bullsh*t
😂😂
@@LeeGee I met a Professor of evolutionary biology who legitimately supported the flat earth theory and used his degree in biology in an argument from authority in order to claim himself superior in all ways to anyone who did not subscribe to his misguided ideological presuppositions. That wasnt even the best part, he also argued with me that oxidative phosphorylation is a false process created by big pharma to pump hormones into our children to cause them to hit puberty more quickly. He claims puberty in humans around used to occur in their early to mid 20's. I will never forget that pretentious little man or his thrift store knockoff Nietzsche moustache. When he made the comment about Ox Phos being a lie i cited mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation thermodynamic efficiencies study involving ATP production with the brain liver and heart and i was told to progress further than a masters degree in biomedical engineering. I never said i was taking bio med or that i had a degree. Ive never met someone who was concurrently infuriating and hilariously delusional. One of my most treasured memories right there. You couldnt script a funnier dialogue.
As someone who is studying mechanical engineering, I propose the universe is in fact a giant mechanical orrery that simulates all mechanics of the universe through higher-dimensional gears
As somebody who works in construction, I propose the universe is all built. The she of the observable universe is obviously just because of shipping delays for equipment. Like in Hitchhiker's a guide to the Galaxy
@@tiedeman39 the she of the observable universe?
As somebody who sucks at school and has zero understanding of anything that takes more than 2 braincells to comprehend, I propose the stars are the actual gears
Praise the Omnisiah
As a gardener, i propose that the universe is a tree that grows hence the expansion and that stars are just bugs and the planets it's fruits. But my hammer keeps telling me the universe is a nail. He says that about everything though.
"Mainstream" scientists have so little regard for Tesla that they named a unit after him
Tesla did some great things. He also claimed he created a cosmic death ray and loved a pigeon as if it was a woman.
Nothing wrong with Tesla. He made a few mistakes just like other scientists at those times. It's a pity his mistakes are often being emphasized.
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime we all make mistakes
@@NinjaMonkeyPrime Einstein thought the universe was static, and eternal
@@j.b.8379 which is far less reasonable than falling in love with a pidgeon.
7:37 "Why don't magnets stick to us?"
Um, clearly someone hasn't taken their Covid vaccine.
*I'm joking, of course.
I would have loved to see one of those local trustees idly trying to pick up a coin with a magnet while one of those people are ranting, then stick the coin to their forehead.
@@Ravaxr dude I've got my two doses plus the booster and I still can't pick coins from the fountain.
I want a refund!
The fact that you have to say you're joking really shows that we live in a society
@@EmeraldArchive nah man we've also landed men on the moon, split the atom, and created powerful computers that have advanced our quality of life. That's like saying "some uneducated serfs in the time of Newton thought the Earth was flat, therefore Newton's genius is to be ignored and in fact the serfs represented the worth of human society at that time"
@@neutrino78x what the fuck are you on about?
i love how he progressively becomes more hostile to the flat earthers in every episode ahahaga
This isn’t flat earth, it’s the electric universe
It’s still a pseudoscience hoax, but it’s a different idea
Many Electric Universes followers don’t believe in a flat earth
Edit: I see that your referring to the beginning of the video
I get that :3
Good. We should all be hostile to FE'ers and proponents of electric universe. These beliefs are so utterly beyond ridiculous
He should employ the strategy of explaining how curiosity is good, how they can make something useful of it, and how the earth could be flat from a very specially warped perspective... Maybe one where we counted in base Pi, and our cars had 3.141 unPi wheels.
Going after flat earthers and EU proponents is still like shooting fish in a barrel, though. The latter barrel might be a little murkier on the top or have fewer fish, but at a certain point it becomes like beating a dead horse or kicking someone when they're down or when Jared Leto's getting wailed on in Fight Club. It would be sort of funny if the EU people managed to find out something, though not revolutionary or debunking of Einstein, but still useful or heretofore unknown (or maybe forgotten recently) with all the money and time they're dumping into studying electricity and plasma devoid of any other ideas. With people like Puthoff getting involved with some of the EU folks, though, that increasingly looks unlikely, and their crack pottery quality seems to be solidifying. Those who have been promoting this stuff really should be the ones making these sorts of videos debunking their own views to save their reputation... like the crack pottery barn rule.
@@The92Waffles Says the guy who believes he's stuck to a spinning peice of rock
video title: "Debunking the electric universe"
RUclips Algorithm: *hmmm, seems like flat earth to me!* "
I was wondering about that too. I think it might have happened automatically because the phrase "flat earth" is in the video description.
He mentioned flat earth within the first 10 or so seconds, and the algorithm reads the auto generated subtitles (and also description) to get an idea of these topics.
@@revenevan11 I got briefly shot down by an automod this way the other day, for talking about how idiotic (as well as ugly) "Darwin Award" jokes are with regard to the pandemic. "You're agreeing with us too explicitly!"
@@moarsaur It's not "idiotic" to call out people who so fiercely oppose basic public health guidelines that they inadvertently cause their own deaths. Didactic is a better word because it's hopefully a teachable moment for all the other covidiots who still have a chance to save themselves from the same fate by just getting the damn vaccine already (before it's too late).
They're the only ones getting the hypothetical "Darwin Award", in that case. If someone's grandmother who is vaccinated happens to get covid and dies of it, that is, by definition, not a Darwin Award. You have to cause your own death, willfully, in order to qualify. That's stipulated in the entire premise of Darwin Awards.
@@StochasticUniverse It's idiotic because it reflects nearly as misinformed and simplistic a view of the pandemic as that espoused by the people you're wishing dead.
Title: “debunking the electric universe”
Me: the what?
Watt*
@@BenGrem917 All due respect, Cani:
The Theory of GR fails from the beginning, mathematically speaking, because it changes "zero" into infinity. Any mathematician not afraid to tell the truth, will resond...
@@treid100182 Yes I will respond to you: go back to school, you have no clue on science, math or GR.
@@atum7355 There are exactly zero proof of electrical universe.
@@atum7355 you talk like a midget with a butterfly brain. The energy out of safire as sun model gives approx the same energy as Jupiter, 145K at the surface. Last I checked the temperature of the sun was 6000K. So no I am not a midget, I am an Engineer with basically the same education in physics and math as Bachelor of Physics. Thrust me when I say no sane Ph.D in Physics, Math or Engineering believe in the 3:rd most stupid conspiracy theory, after flat earth and young earth creationists. Go back to school.
“now that we’ve grounded ourselves a bit.” 😂
I was about to comment the same thing lmao.
These guys need to be more down to earth like Mr Dave here. :D
@@hassanahmed2275 I think the people who think there's an reference point in an electrical circuit are the most grounded.
@@yourbiggestfan395
Wait... which people are those?
Lol that got me too
When Prof Dave said that some physics knowledge was needed to debunk this ridiculousness, I thought it would be graduate level theory. Thankfully it was just highschool level physics.
unfortunately a lot of the people who fall for this are not high-school levels of skeptic or intelligent
Think you might be overestimating modern high schools... Like I can't effectively debunk electric universe talking points because it only plays offense, and gish-gallops, and engages in what aboutisms constantly. I would need the actual physics and history of science in front of me to effectively argue against it, and even then they'll call me brainwashed by the Newtonian institution. Takes a lot to talk down stupid is all Im saying XD
@@notthis9586 i mean, here in europe, at least under a british education system this is all secondary school physics: 12 year olds know this stuff as basic syllabus.
@@aidanmatthewgalea7761 in the US public school doesn’t have physics till late high school, last 2 years (3) if your ahead, and even then you don’t have to take it. I never took physics instead opting for higher level chemistry and biology. So for many people like me who weren’t interested in physics at the time we get our physics from RUclips
@@sean5364 Wow this is strange. I heard that university courses in US are highly difficult. How do people cope with that if they didn't have physics until high school? I'm assuming that people from the US find college a lot more challenging than high school because the gap would be so huge.
24:40 Pyramids are spaceships? ahahaha don't be ridiculous. We all know that pyramids are the *landing pads* of spaceships.
And there's another Stargate fan.... :-)
All hail anubis
I thought they were the energy suplies for spaceships
I assume you're joking but there are indeed people who are ancient aliens types who think they're part of some landing area for spaceships, and that they're beacons or guidelines for the incoming ships
@@Ratchet4647 im joking but qho knows
What is it with all the fringe beliefs hating on gravity? What did gravity ever do to them?
They were dropped on the head because of gravity
That's easy. Because gravity is what "the mainstream" believes and anything that "the mainstream" believes" must be evil. I wish I was making this up.
It has nothing to do with Einstein being jewish at all... nope... that's not it...
Because there are anomalies that General Relativity alone can't account for and think it's bullshit how many 'dark' fudge factors are added to make the equations work, even though that's literally the scientific process to refine your model to match observations more accurately and figure out why your model doesn't work without these modifications. They are also pissed tax dollars are being spent on research that is not yielding enough results, even though eliminating possible explanations is literally how science advances in order to get closer to the actual explanation. Their shortcomings feed their already inherent distrust of the establishment because it doesn't line up with how they think the world should be. The sad thing is they completely miss out on the fact physicists are the first to acknowledge the limits of our current theories and that a lot of work is left to be done, as well as taking the assumptions that they do as assumptions and not facts they base their work off of and will quickly readjust them should any evidence come up to suggest them to do so.
@@ThatCrazyKid0007 _"They are also pissed tax dollars are being spent on research that is not yielding enough results"_ Like how we just managed to punch an asteroid and take a sample or how we managed to get a probe closer to the sun than ever before even during pandemic lockdown? Yea, those things sucked didn't they?
I mean we landed on the moon around 50 years ago right? And we still haven't figured out the entire origin of the universe in that time? How lame is that? I mean cancer research started around the 1770's and there's no way that cancer is more complicated than the start of the universe right bro? We totally need a new approach because there's no way that humans shouldn't have this figured out in like 6 months right bro?
That plasma image looks suspiciously like an orange cut in half:- Therefore Gravity is fruit based
LOL....that made me laugh....thanks
You're just fruit biased.
Proponents of the Orange Earth Theory would rather you say that gravity is _citrus-based!_
Get your facts right... Neil Degrass Tyson reckons the earth is supposed to be PEAR shaped ! ha ha vegan science !
Or fruit is gravity-based, that's why apples fall from trees. 🍎🌳
"Does not offer a working model." The bane of conspiracy theorists everywhere.
Except EU does and here's the best part: EVERY LECTURE IS AVAILABLE FOR FREE AND ONLINE OPEN-SOURCE FOR EVEN TRIPLE -VAXXED DRONES LIKE YOU ÀND THE CREATOR to cling to your dogma.
@@marcinorszulak5601 Nonsense.
@@marcinorszulak5601 Why Stupid People Think They Are Smart
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Professor Dave in an alternate electric universe: Debunking the gravitational universe
Lol, this made me laugh 😃😃😃
no
The only positive thing about flat earthers is that they make me feel smart.
Lmao🤣🤣🤣
Lol definitely a positive.... Though it helps make my outlook on humanity more grim as well.
2nd positive thing is they make laugh :) i know its not OK to make fun of mentally ill people but anyway :D
Smart? They make me feel like a god.
What's really funny is, that's exactly how they feel about us. The true allure of 'flat-earth' is; "I have special knowledge you don't". Imo, it's just a tool insecure people use to feel better about themselves.
Not only is this legend battling the flat earthers but debunking other fallacious claims too. Thank you, Dave.
Oh you are a fan of science too huh
If only he'd debunk some of the "Initial State GER" claims.
*Jotaro Dies in Part 6*
Omg this guy is everywhere
@Asyam Abyan rip
*Pulls off flesh-colored tape peeling from upper lip*
Aha! You had a mustache all along!
Personally i prefer when the universe was acoustic, before they sold out and went mainstream.
EU unplugged.
I prefer the _electronic_ universe, where god is just some dork playing the world's most ridiculous eurorack setup.
Thanks to Matt at Spacetime for sending me to this channel! The only downside is that I now know that this ridiculous, vaguely sciencey, conspiracy theory exists. But, its always good to be reminded to keep a healthy scepticism when faced with extraordinary claims.
Those people frequent many other astrophysics or science channels, including Dr. Becky and Anton Petrov. I like seeing those channels giving them a little pushback, and Dave does it in a fittingly sarcastic manner
If you enjoyed this video, you should absolutely check out all of professor Dave's other debunks. They're excellent.
Ditto. I knew all about the Electric Universe nonsense but I would never have found this channel without its mention on SpaceTime.
@@earlysda I genuinely can't imagine a rational human could watch this video in it's entirety and come to that conclusion. The only explanation is that you didn't actually watch the video.
@@alexthomas5633 Not that they are completely irrational?
"Earth, Wind, & Fire's “Electric Universe” album in 1983 broke a string of 11 straight gold or platinum LPs and led to a four-year hiatus. During the break, group members Maurice White and Philip Bailey worked on separate projects and, mainly, sought to revitalize their creative energies."
I believe there may be a copyright issue here.
It was a whole thing back then apparently.
Brazilian singer and composer Tim Maia released in 1975 an album titled "imunização racional" (rational imunization), following a cult that claimed bitter, angry, sorrowful people were all badly magnetized and needed to discharge so they could recover their health.
Not surprised to hear Earth, Wind and Fire had a similar career patch less than 10 years later, since it is still close and these things hunt for artists like the scientology bunch
Electric Universe DESTROYED by earth, wind, and fire
I think we are living in a chocolade universe. Because for some reason I am - and most people I know - definitely attracted to chocodlade... Granted there seems to be a link to gravity, because I become heavier and heavier when I eat it. Mhhh. I going to do some more research, I guess...
@Q - AGEIDO Some weird things are happening. For instance, the attraction apparently is not depending on the distance at all. I also am attracted to choclade even without knowing where it is.
Currently, I am trying to prove that the Sun is actually a large chunk of hot choclade.
@Q - AGEIDO Brilliant idea! Wanna join in the research? :D
I'm not so sure . The more chocolade that I attract the more females I seem to repulse . There seems to be an equal & opposite relationship between the two phenomena . As you say more ingestion of chocolade is required for research purposes
@@voraciousfred no, is speled chocolade. yum.
The universe is clearly based on whisky, so I guess you and I are at war now.
Tinfoil hatters like them do a massive disservice to Tesla. He was a legit scientist who briefly entertained the idea of wireless power at a time when that was legitimately within the realm of theoretical physics. It no longer is. He wasn't a "prophet", he was brilliant, but a man of his time.
Exactly.
Why is wireless power not within the realm of theoretical physics anymore apparently? I seem to have missed the memo
@@NetHacker100they didn't quite understand how the atmosphere worked and Tesla thought about using it as a comically large capacitor
Came here from PBS Spacetime! Glad you've made this video, these people drive me crazy in the comments section on any Spacetime video that even tangentially involves dark matter or electromagnetism or gravity, so I'm very excited to hear your take on the psychology of them and this belief.
Likewise stopped by after the ZTF J1901+1458 video.
Now, if I'm understanding the info on magnetic fields correctly, the galactic magnetic field may be a factor in *where* gas concentrations form, but once enough gas is there, gravity takes over the production of the new star and its proto-planetary disc. Which unfortunately, might be enough "evidence" for EU'ers. Sigh.
Thirded.
@@SuperTonyony Fouthed. Came here as never heard about this "Electric Universe" thing. Is this something more American?
Coming from PBS Spacetime and never having heard of this theory before I had seconds to prepare me to what it was and I just started imagining what kind of bs they would be pushing through. Turns out what I imagined was (at least to me) much more interesting than this, so I will share, because maybe someone will find interesting.
So my bs theory of electric universe, was that much like magnetism is "rotational" electricity, maybe gravitation is also derived from them; it is like the sum of the higher order interactions (like rotation of magnetism, and rotation of rotation of rotation) and so on, and those forces combined, which have a much smaller magnitude, give something that behaves like gravity. It is similar to the idea of feynman diagrams (with the infinite sums thing), so maybe this will have some allure.
Also you can argue that even though sums of interactions of single charges cancel out, once you take into account interactions of dipoles, quadripoles and octopoles, they stop cancelling out perfectly, and there would always be a statistical residual.
I am pretty sure you can even come up with some maths to justify this bs, so there you have it, my bs theory.
@simpsons Bart Apples fall to ground. Conspiracy nuts debunked centuries before they were even born.
"Science-illiterate unemployable simpletons with personality disorders" is the greatest thing I will hear all day.
i almost fit that definition(with the exception of science-illiterate) perfectly, and i'm definitely not a flat earther, or antivaxer, or feminist, or libertarian, or drumpf supporter, or anti-gmo, or creationist.....i feel ike i should really take offense.....but somehow i dont feel offended....
I was going say the same thing, it's just hilarious.
@@sabin97 I somehow feel that "libertarian" does not fit with the rest of the things you listed.
@@UrbFoxFact When did he mock anyone's type of employment?!!! Unemployable simply means "cannot be employed."
@@BenGrem917 This is RUclips... everything is a conspiracy. It doesn't take much for YT's algorithms to start suggesting videos made by lunatics.
I suggest a debate with some electric universe proponents, like say, Ben Davidson???
Stop doing what a con artist on FaceBook tells you. Ask Ben to give you one EU formula that can be used to do anything in reality.
@Ian w16 Yeah, I would be scared to...
Justin Kennedy Did he actually give references?
@@flookd5516 He gave links to alll his published and peer reviewed works. :)
@@justinkennedy3004 If you actually look at the link he only has one paper, books are not peer-reviewed. It is not cited by anyone from a NASA center, there is one citation from someone who lists their affiliation as "Geo Cosmo Science and Research Center", which is based in a NASA research park. This a private company unaffiliated with NASA which leases space. It is totally wrong to claim he has paper*s* cited by NASA, both are aspects are false.
The fact that one of their talking points is that astrophysics is too mathematically oriented is the icing on the cake for me, most mathematicians will get mad at physicists because they aren’t mathematically oriented ENOUGH. Though I’m sure that to the average EU believer, even arithmetic is difficult.
So a couple of weeks ago, PBS Spacetime posted a video about magnetism on galactic scale. This week, Professor Matt gave this video a shout-out in response to all the EU nuts claiming that he was validating their fraudulent cosmology.
Always the religious looking for their god in the gaps.
@@franklinrichards6559 Are EU nuts religious? I know they are just a step up from flat earthers in scientific literacy but I didn't think they were necessarily religious?
@@ddegn religious in the sense that they blindly hold onto un testible theories like an extreme devote person might. (Not looking to insult the religious just comparing their devotion to a belief. )
@@ddegn and sorry saying god of the gaps isshorthand further looking for the smallest place to say mytheory fits there. Or using that small gap to attempt to invalidate anything
@@earlysda Yeah, right. Where do you get that nonsense from?
10:24 "All charges cancel out". They certainly don't in plasma. Plasma can form counter rotating stacked double layers where one layer is negative, the other positive.
@Ian w16 the Debye length is the distance over which significant "charge separation" can occur.
So what? The _total_ charge of these two layers taken together is still zero. _That_ was his point.
That's why a plasma "acts" like a "magnet", with a dipole. And "magnetic" type forces decrease really fast with distance. I keep being vague because if you understood your own comment, you wouldn't have posted it.
@@AlcyonEldara "That's why a plasma "acts" like a "magnet", with a dipole."
No, it doesn't. Wheree did you get that from?!
"I keep being vague because"
Because you know yourseld that you write nonsense.
"if you understood your own comment, you wouldn't have posted it."
Pot. Kettle. Black.
@@bjornfeuerbacher5514 hilarious coming from a moron who doesn't even understand the notion of Debye length.
At distances way larger than this length, a plasma is electrically neutral and has a magnetic field. The end.
With a heavy heart and much sadness, I must declare that Magneto (Max Eisenhardt) is the god and deity of this electro-manifesto universe. Now it will make sense.
You worship a false idol for there is only one with the power to control this electro-world with music and oppressive might. She's the creator of minecraft, Harry Potter, and has blue hair. Hatsune Miku.
Nazar Soroka
Magneto is quite the radical, so this doesn't surprise me very much... 😬
Man is a glutton for punishment, sacrificing himself every bloody episode for humanity's benefit like that... :'(
Funny, I'd be saying that with a light heart! He's always been my favourite mutant in the X Men stories, ever since I was a kid
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3.5k downvotes on a video essentially stating that gravity is real. We truly do live in a society.
Gravity still exists in the EUT... they just say that electromagnetism plays a way bigger role than the standard model assumes. How does gravity explain the allignments of Quasar axes all over the cosmic web? There must be more than just gravity at work. Dark matter cant do that either.
@@Dopemische and EU explains that? Can you send a link to the reviewed papers where EU proofs statistically that electromagnetism is responsible for the alignements of quasars?
@@Dopemische Quasars? EU don't believe in quasars. Quasars are AGNs. Active Galactic Nuclei. Those are black holes spewing out enormous jets. EU don't believe in black holes. Therefore in EU, quasars don't exist. So, they cannot be aligned with anything. QED.
@@Dopemische _"How does gravity explain the allignments of Quasar axes all over the cosmic web?"_
And further to my previous; EU follow the claims of Arp, that quasars are just mini galaxies, spat out by other galaxies, like wet mogwai! Really dumb idea. Therefore the claim of Arp, and the EUists, is that quasars are not at the distances that redshift tells us they are at, due to having some weird intrinsic redshift, due to motion away from the parent galaxy. The study you mention sees the alignment only based on the redshift distances of those quasars. If Arp was right (he wasn't) then the quasars would be a lot closer, and the alignment with the cosmic web disappears.
Of course, we have long since known that there is no correlation between nearer galaxies and quasars. Arp was a victim of a small sample size, pareidolia, and his almost religious belief in the steady-state universe, long after the vast majority of scientists had ditched it due to the overwhelming evidence for the big bang and the LCDM model. That is why nobody takes him seriously anymore.
EU is false, and only the UK have managed to see that.
Does that mean a brexit is a black hole?
I can't believe decades after Galileo, capernicus, and other amazing break throughs we have there are still people who believe the earth is flat. I have 2 pieces of proof that anyone can test. First climb a mountain, many are reachable without technical gear and from the summit you can see the curvature of our beautiful earth. I know this because I've seen it several times. Second get a cat. After a few months of owning a cat you would realize that if the earth was truly flat cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now
This is not about flat earth.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains my apologies, I was watching a sci man dan video and near the end was writing that comment, the auto play RUclips generator played your video and thus my comment was added to both simultaneously. I can understand your frustration, the whole idea of flat earth is as irritating as a ill fitting sock in your shoe but you are too busy to fix it. However I did subscribe to your channel as well because I love learning from my betters. I've noticed that once I understand a subject I assume others must know it too because its now simple for me to understand. You do a great job of avoiding that, and understand that it may be a little difficult for some people to wrap their mind around a foreign concept. Thank you for the awesome vids
you have to be 100km above earth's surface to see the curvature (which does exist) You can however watch a boat go over a horizon (I think you would use a Nikon P900000)!
EU plasma theorists don't believe the world is flat… In fact, it goes against their entire research … so … what the F are you getting at?
@@treid100182 he commented an explanation for his comment.
I remember the first time I heard the electric universe. I was shocked!
Sorry I just could not resist.
Well played.
@@dedskin1 I'll start listening once you learn how to make a proper sentence, then I'll do some basic research to disprove you
@@dedskin1 Electrical Universe is just a load of scientific sounding words put together in random order. It has as many scientific papers as flat earth, it has as much science behind it as flat earth, it has as much predictive capabilities as flat earth. It is just con men trying to sound scientific.
Pavle Pavlovic It's a good thing NASA's work is just a small part in all the astrophysics, astronomy, heliophysics and cosmology research.
At least your comment shows that you don't know what you're talking about...
@@dedskin1 pls tell me something about plasma. Anything. I'm sure u just know nothing about the physics behind ist.
And while u are thinking about reading the wikipedia also answere the following: how do u come to the idea of lightning bolds creating hexagonal patterns when hitting something not conducting like the moon?
Swap "astrophysics" with "biology" and "gravity" with "evolution" and this sounds exactly like Creationism.
First off, I enjoyed the video. There was one thing I disagreed with. Maybe it's because I have a limited experience with the electric universe. I have a friend that has bitten on to the electric universe hook line & sinker. When listening to him and watching some videos that he recommended for me. I had one name in mind that I was looking for, Nikola Tesla. Seems like if we were talking electricity and we are ignoring the mainstream. We'll skip over guys like Michael Faraday. I don't see how the electric Universe could Champion a guy like Nikola Tesla because Tesla was a huge fan of Newton and admittedly used his equations and ideas. Tesla read Principia multiple times as a child like it was fairy tales. So I was really hoping that the electric universe would be into Tesla thinking that would really unravel the web they wove.
EU does not negate Newton, Tesla was not alive to experience this becoming popular (~60s) AND he demonstrated wireless electricity.
"EU does not negate Newton"
Huh? EU proponents usually say that Newton's law of gravity is wrong.
By definition, solar winds carrying electric charge _is_ electric current.
So because the sun emits charged particles, there are magic invisible electric currents connecting every star and every galaxy which powers all of them and relativity isn't true? Got it! Thanks, bud!
So what? Compare the power inherent in an infinitesimally thin solar wind to a great fat thermonuclear furnace consuming millions of tons of hydrogen per second. The solar wind should be glowing white hot and melting the earth. is it? Nope.
@@northeastslingshot1664 Strong argument there mate.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains wow youre dense
@@loveleyday exactly
Interesting D&D campaign... wait Electric Universe is a thing?
Lunar lightning!
@Nathan O'Keefe that’s what happens when you don’t invest any points in intelligence or charisma
@@colbycox8783 In Fallout RPG game, I always put more point in intelligence and charisma to get more interesting dialog and to access technology.
@@cyberjfh me too those are the best play throughs
This reminds me of the old Spelljammer AD&D setting, and the Sons of Ether (mad scientists essentially) faction in Mage The Ascension.
I love how they just say 'electricity', or 'electrical magnetism' as a excuse like it's a pokemon move or something
Same with the flaterfers. They use the "perspective" and "refraction" Pokemon.
@@brettvv7475 Without understanding either in ay capacity.
I mean thunderbolt is a pokemon move so
I just now realized ppl are abreviating Electric Universe and are not talking about the European Union
Well both are stupid to be honest so easy to confuse
I feel bad for tesla, his character has been so butchered in history that he will end up being remembered completely differently and his actual work gets forgotten
Not entirely, we will always measure magnetic fields in units of Telsa :)
I do as well, anyone going around quoting Tesla while at the same time trying to allege that gravity does not exist, is NO fan of Tesla at all nor understand that he believed in gravity as was working on his _Dynamic theory of gravitation_ unpublished work he kept periodically talking about.
@ThisAintKyle I think you are confusing EU theory with the related but different theory of Plasma Cosmology. And yes I already did a little bit of research into this as I am skeptical person and check sources. This video was in regards to EU theory NOT plasma cosmology. And more specifically it was in regards to videos from The Thunderbolts Project. From their own webpage it states this right on its home page "Was there a big bang? Not likely. Einstein’s Relativity? Doesn’t hold up. Is the Sun a thermonuclear fusion reactor which will eventually run out of fuel and burn out? Nope. Are there black holes? No such thing." Looking into it further on what all it claims, states this "Magnetism, gravity and the nuclear force are various effects produced by charged, orbitally structured protons and electrons in response to an applied electric force. All matter in the universe is connected by the electric force." This is all confirmed with another website electricuniverse.
In other words no it does not deny gravity per se, it is saying what we know and call gravity really is not gravity at all. Instead it is allegedly electromagnetic force. So it is indirectly denying gravity .. or at least as we know it. And yes I do regret it because it is complete and utter BS. This implies that everything in the universe MUST be a conducter (whether good or bad conductor) and we know that simply is NOT true. As an engineer with physics, you should know that IF this crap were true that we should easily be able to detect that electric current flow ... yet we can not. You should also know that IF this crap were true we would see different results of gravitational pull with good conductors vs bad conductors ... yet once again that is not the case. Let alone it should not impact non-conductors at all. For example does gravity pull more with conductive copper and less with bad conductor of pure water? Nope. It simply does not hold up even on the very basic level of its suggestion. Now there might be something to some of those other theories such as plasma cosmology, but I kind of doubt it. Tbh physics is not strong suit of mine, so no point in dwelving into such complex things such as plasma until I know physics better ... which just doubt will do as there are tons more interesting things to me. Unlike electric which I do know quite a bit more ... enough to know this is pure BS. I do however partially agree with its main premise that electricity plays more a part than we are aware of, piezoelectrics is all around us and I think more important than we currently realize ... but significant role uhm NO. And it definitely does not replace other forces such as gravity like this theory suggests. If it were so significant role we would be seeing it and detecting it, but we simply do not.
@@kevinfisher1345 well said, Sir. Cheers
@@AngryHateMusic AHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA 48 minutes of conformation bias, misinterpretation of basic grade 8 cosmology and erroneous conclusions. I had to facepalm a couple of times through that video. This has been done before, and explained way better with much less need to play games of dictionary and obfuscation to push a narritive. I think tesla would dropkick these guys off of his electricity distribution tower.
“Now that we’ve Grounded ourselves” I see what you did there
@@sonpopco-op9682 I love how this video twists and straw mans someone in an attempt to claim said person is twisting and straw-manning a nonsensical belief system. Seems like the creator of this video didn't actually watch professor dave, but made assumptions based of a generalized and false caricature. Much like how all pseudoscience peddlers roll. You guys seem to be just a tiny notch above flat earthers for dishonesty and projection.
8:20 "Now that we've grounded ourselves a bit"
Oh, Dave, you so cheeky
It's always sad to return to this comment section and see so many idiots defending pseudoscience.
Electric universe does not deny gravity.
Do your homework. Many of them claim that, which is strong evidence that there's nothing scientific about the whole thing.
Some of them do, chief. I was debunking everyone at once, the even more crazy along with the regular crazy.
that is great news! what testable claim does e.u. make, though?
Isn't this all to get rid of gravity, which is necessary for flat earth to work, and that's why there is such an overlap between EU and Flerfism?
It's why flerfs have espoused EU, but it's not why EU exists.
It connects
This is too stupid to even reply to.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains that commenter shares brain cells with a mcchicken fragment
@@osmosisjones4912 "replulsive forces like elections"?
Flat Out, is that you?
i love electricity, but nah man, Electric Universe is just stupid
Oh my God subbed. If all your other videos are this fantastic, where do I send you all my money?
Check out the debunking playlist I'm sure you'll enjoy several more! Patreon is always there should you wish to support.
You can buy his book, "Is this wifi organic?"
Birkeland Currents ? Made Up ?
The imaginary ones they are claiming exist, yes.
Professor Dave Explains Imaginary Ones ?
We understand the effects of gravity very well. How it works, not so much. Just saying
The effects are similar enough to magnetism that we need to study their similarities and call it what it is, an electro static phenomenon. Hence the electric universe theory.
@@rasronin ???, gravity does not induce currents like magnetism does, gravity has only one charge, unlike electro magnetism. electric universe is nonsense
@@doubleFay gravity doesn’t exist just like time. They are phenomena we experience but magnetism exists and is responsible for the attractive and repulsive forces we observe in nature. Now you’re gonna tell me time exists and is some universal constant. Electo-magnetism is far from understood but we can exploit what we know for useful work. Black holes and dark matter are made up.
@@doubleFay gravity is not a thing and does not have a charge. You believers remind me of Christians. Believing in imaginary things. Gravity is an electro static phenomenon caused by electromagnetic waves. Show me a gravity wave please.
@@rasronin Sure lets entertain the idea that "Gravity is an electro static phenomenon". So the fact that things are accelerated towards the earth is purely electrostatic. This is demonstrably false. Electrostatic attraction is dependent on the charge (+ -) as well as the ammount of charge. So just by reversing the charge the force should reverse its direction. Also things with twice the charge should expirience twice the force. NONE OF THIS HAPPENS IN REALITY.
Reason is boring. An electric universe sounds fun and the graphics look cool.
That's it.
That, and the allure of being one of the special few who have this particular insight. That seems to be a critical element of most conspiracy theories, religions and pseudo-scientific conjectures.
graphics which they get from institutions such as NASA which they denounce as Satan incarnate in the same breath
Sorting the comments by newest first and reading every person that Prof. Dave responds to has made me lose multiple braincells in the past minute.
He's still doing it. Idk how he had a patience to do this and not suffer from this
I saw The Electric Universe at the Fillmore East with Wavy Gravy and The Moving Sidewalks.
Cool 😜
Poor Nikola, he's been in so many conspiracy and hoaxes such as free energy towers and stuff because of his inventions. :/
If he knew what some people would claim 80 years after his death, he would have gone mad and talked to the pigeons much sooner..
I like the people who claim he was murdered because he was gonna expose 'free energy'. Mofos, he was almost 90 when he died!
How dar you insuLt OuR sUPreme LEader Tesla You will BE banished to ELectricity JaIL
I managed to scoff at or dismiss everything presented until that point. Co-opting Tesla like that made me angry.
He had issues & was definitely misunderstood & taken advantage of but whenever he had an hypothesis, he tested it. When he questioned a model, he provided an alternative.
Interesting the kind of theories people come up with, for monetary gain or not. Are you planning to debunk any other common universe / creation type theory thingies?
I want to know who build the dome thats over us. I've seen the dome in a bunch of pics and i really would like to know who built it and how did they built it?
A scaffolding company built it ruclips.net/video/QYGa18D1d4E/видео.html
I was contracted to do it, surprisingly it only took me and my crew 6 months to complete! Lol
the fact that this has so many dislikes is depressing
@Bacon Cheeseberg oh no 😭 i wasn’t writing formally as if the RUclips comment section is a college paper :,(((
@Bacon Cheeseberg if i get to the age of having kids, i’ll be LESS concerned about how people talk in a RUclips comment section. get over yourself.
To my knowledge the EU doesn't disregard gravity, but describes it as originating from the electromagnetic nature of matter
You didn't even watch this video.
No it's not. Just because something is a secondary force does not mean it cannot have some determining powers.
Vice81 ok, so how does a force produced between two particles of different charges effect neutral charged objects that are unaffected by the other force?
@@TheNinthGenerarion It doesn't, the effect of gravity is supposedly a byproduct of the interaction between the Electromagnetic Force and the Strong & Weak Nuclear forces it's two fundamental forces interacting that supposedly generates gravity not two particles.
It was when I read the Velikovsky-type claims that the planets were wandering around just a few thousand years ago that I realized there was less to it than I first thought. Later, I read about the serious hypothesis that some did indeed wander a bit, but not within any kind of human time scale.
Wander?
You would be surprised reading real science regarding the history of the solar system. Like asteroid collisions that have spread material all over the place. That knowledge is very solid.
I was introduced to Electric universe theory by watching Ken Wheeler and occasionally it has popped into my mind. Glad to have a good debunking. Now what about Wolfram physics?
@@DrWhom Thanks for insight, I really appreciate it!
"Now we've grounded ourselves..." 😂 Brilliant.
I'm shocked he said that.
@David Van Doren Ben Davidson is the equivalent of Nathan Oakley: the only things he does is saying how "mainstream" cosmology is wrong and that his "plasma" cosmology is somehow better without giving any conctrete evidence for that: he will dig for cosmological data that he can present as evidence for his hoax without ever elaborating or citing any science papers that would show such a connection, because he knows he can't. He does that so he can sound appealing to laypeople who don't have the required knowledge (which is most people actually, and that's the danger about this type of hoax), so that they hopefully buy his book (only 45 bucks!) conference tickets, or a premium membership on his beautifully professional website. Did you?
@@mrsHeather985 ....did you just ruin a wonderful pun for me? •_•
@David Van Doren Debate a guy who is clueless about basic grade 4 science? HAHAHAHAHA
Descriptions of a force does not explain it
Why does not it surprise me that this "professor" debunks the electric concept of the universe the same way the flat earthers debunk the globe earth?
So... you didn't watch this, eh sport?
Name 1 flat earther who has debunked the globe earth.
Care to give one example?
Wait.... what?
@@petroleumalley lots of flat earthers claim to debunk the globe earth
2:26 'Black holes aren't real' I wonder how they're going to explain the picture we have of one.
Honest question. If a proton falls into a neutron star, what happens to it? Does it go through some kind of quantum conversion into a neutron or does it stay a proton?
If a proton falls into a neutron star it will convert into a neutron, and during the conversion it will release neutrinos.
@@Evolcun I figured it must or neutron stars wouldn't be very... "neutrony". Just wanted to check if these large subatomic particles are capable of converting. Thankyou
Duh, it clearly turns into a cat.
Neutron stars are not pure neutronium at the surface. It is widely theorized a thin crust of iron encases them. Like everything else, density and pressure increase with depth. The environment that creates neutronium exists within.
Dark matter is real? Do a video on that. I have not seen where that had been discovered yet.
i did that! check out my astronomy playlist.
@@TrusePkay Let me know when they have a working model that explains the same thing as our current theories.
For the vary simplest proof: Neutrinos, for example, are dark matter. They're proven to exist by a number of research labs. So dark matter is real.
I would dearly love to see you debate this issue with Ben Davidson. By the way "Professor", how many degrees do you hold? Please answer.
You can literally look at his about page and see his degrees.
On the contrary though... Ben Davidson only has degrees in economics and law. I wouldn't be the one to talk about credentials ;)
Do you have a Ben t-shirt?
Haha, I have two, in chemistry and science education. How many does Ben hold that are relevant to science? Zero.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains Funny... I initially took his comment as a sarcastic stab at your constant "appeal to authority". ;-) and..., I'm not seeing much in the way of physics in your cv there.
Apart from the physics I took for my chemistry degree, including an E&M lab, it's irrelevant. I'm not the one contradicting science. I report science. When someone with zero science education thinks they can rewrite physics, they're delusional. That's Ben.
Does red/blue shift make line spectra difficult? Does it need to be somehow accounted for?
Yes, for an in depth explanation, check out David Butler RUclips channel and his series ' how far is it?' and 'how small is it?', since it has consequences for both cosmology and quantum mechanics!
@@ianp3112 thank you so much for taking the time :)
I'll go check this out right now
Im glad my first introduction to this was your video, because this is something a younger me might’ve fallen for
That was a close call, thank the self proclaimed science gods the excess fluoride and the all pervading omnipresent nonstop propaganda successfully cured you from independent thinking and prevented you from developing discernment or into an autonomous free individual instead of a sheep!
I see Amish all the time, which disproves the Electric Universe.
Underrated comment
😂😂😂😂😂
Lancaster is a cathedral city and the county town of Lancashire, England, its full of "the english"
I was in Amish country but too long ago, didn't notice the cop or the speed limit change and he came after me, .. lucky fit me that horse tired in about a quarter mile, ... i think the officer was thankful it did, as the candles in his lights blew out and he sounded like he was about to choke from making that whirring sound.
LMAO!! :D
Electric universe does not deny or try to thwart gravity......
Um, that's exactly what it does.
@@hoptoads Good thing he doesn't lie then.
Ever noticed that the ppl who dont take the time to understand another's pov, quickly refer to simple reactions like ( calling ppl names like "liers" or speak out with profanity?)
@@hoptoads don't worry, the emperor lost his clothes. And doesn't know he did.
@@zoephin6205 Strange...I have one magnet and another magnet and they're repelling each other. Do you know what magnetism is?
the gentle way you talk in this video is such whiplash from your later ones where you've had time to become more jaded and just "done" with people being ridiculous lol
It's genuinely funny once you see the Dave trajectory. Flat Earth, James Tour, and Electric Universe all start out, honestly, as really gentle good faith rebuttals. But then, they're met with anger, arrogant dismissal, or threats by the people pushing the stuff. Each time, Dave realizes that the people he's dealing with aren't interested in having a discussion about reality, they're either hucksters trying to con their way through stuff, narcissists who are convinced they're right for no reason whatsoever, or people so wrapped up in their story about big bad SCIENCE not listening to the little guys that they're not interested in learning anything.
So he treats them like the clowns they are. Then people go 'hey why are you so mean,' like he didn't fucking try something different at first and realized that these people need to be treated like the trash they spew because they worm their way into people's minds through even handed treatment.
When someone uses terms like "mainstream science", it's a big red flag that they're a crackpot conspiracy theorist.
In January of 1927, Geologist J Harlen Bretz presented his hypothesis that many of the geological features of Eastern Washington state were best explained by a single cataclysmic local flooding event. This went sharply counter to the mainstream scientific consensus at the time, which held that all large scale geologic features were formed gradually.
Turns out he was right, and the mainstream scientific consensus was wrong. And continued to be wrong for decades.
Yeah, the electromagnetic universe nutters are nutters, but don't let it blind you to the fact that there damn well is a mainstream scientific community, that is often straight up wrong.
@@LeoStaley and it's just as often self correcting, as you yourself point out if that was the case
@@LeoStaley And there is your answer: A *geologist* comes with a new theory, not a failed *lawyer* , as in electric universe.
It took nearly 60 years for the mainstream science to catch up.
Hold on. My crackpot detector is going off.
Last time I was this early nobody was dumb enough to believe the earth was flat
same
Nice 👍.
Don't fall for the lie, the Death star is flat!
Wait...
When I was a kid, I remember being told in school that "once upon a time", people believed that the earth was flat, and I couldn't imagine anyone actually believing that...
Fast forward to today... ? ... and I just don't know WHAT to think.
The pictures of planets being blown up by lightning would make for good metal album covers
@@pastramilover1012 your comment made me curious so I looked it up. "Electric Universe" is a psychedelic trance project from Germany formed in 1991 (Wikipedia). Sorry mate, the names taken!
@@ericpode6095 Galactic Lightning would work as well if the other one's taken. You could call the album "Canyon Of Destruction". Lol
people do understand how horrifying that concept is
totally
Thank you, Dave. I’m so with your mission. Thank you so much. I stated on another comment on one of your videos that I cannot believe all through humanity so much work has been done for progress and yet so many people are so dumb to reject it was such a ignorance, confident ignorance.
Yeah, these days a little bit of stupid goes a long, long way.
Its bc stupid people genuinely dont understand how little they actually understand, and so assume they understand all there is to know.
Whereas smart people understand they are actually kinda lacking in knowledge, relative to how much there is to actually learn in the world. Which is where the humility comes from. And the reverse is indeed where the lack of it comes from.
Dunning-kruger yadda yadda yadda
@@jaredmoore5232 i mean it depends on what. His ideas on transgenderism are completely dangerous and will do nothing but ruin lives tbh. he is unapologetically, and in fact incredibly patronizingly, pro-trans. To the point where he spouts the mainstream talking points, even though just a basic amount of research coupled with impartiality would show him how wrong he is on the topic.
Its the reason why i unsubscribed from his channel; i cant in good faith support someone who believes such dangerous ideas with such fervor.
It honestly sucked realizing he was just another brick in the wall of wokies.
Oh also if you read thru his comments on any of his more involved videos, like the physics ones, there are plenty of actual engineers and other professionals saying he doesnt actually know what he is talking about... Granted, im not smart enough to verify, but judging on the trans opinion that he has, i was willing to believe them.
So now i just watch the flat earth debunk vids when they come up bc they are all great, and the math isnt so crazy that i cant keep up.
dave is one of the dumb people rejecting the progress
I knew nothing about this before the conspiracy nut in my life, mentioned it in an arguement we had over whether gravity is real. I got the impression then that he was just mashing science words together. So good to know he was doing just that.
The scientists are debating whether the universe is flat or curved.
meanwhile, many people still believe the earth is flat🤦🤦
They aren't really debating that anymore. It is considered flat (the universe, of course), to my knowledge.
@@tsvetanstoychev655 I don't think it's entirely settled. It is seemingly flat to the limits of our ability to measure, but nobody knows the scale of the entire universe so even curvature too small for us to currently measure could be meaningful.
@@tsvetanstoychev655 Nothing is settled. For all we know, we could be in a Klein bottle analogue of a 3D manifold embedded in 5D space.
Have your head checked first before making an ass out of yourself.
@@beneu95 have you fucking head checked yourself, you fucking flat brained flat earther
Ben Davidson already replied. Start debating!
Against my better judgement I took a quick glance, it's a joke. He just says I shouldn't be citing Thunderbolts when that's specifically who I was debunking. He says I shouldn't be referencing EU, when that is specifically what I was debunking. He's just trying to milk my channel for attention and spew garbage about his little pet causes. It's ridiculous.
Stephy-poo, you have no idea what he is saying when he speaks. You just like the conspiracy vibe on his channel so you nod your head like a moron and eat up anything he says. You couldn't summarize anything he said in his "response" if your life depended on it.
Why do conspiracy theory idiots think science is proven in some pro wrestling format?
@@RainOfFrogs Can you give an example?
I’m just here for the arguments.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and ability to convey complex concepts so seemingly effortlessly. ❤
Gaslighting is pervasive and people want to believe stories. Scientific Method is not emotionally driven and is significantly harder to employ because it takes effort to think. Belief requires less energy, even if its a belief in something false.
This seems to be a great debunking, however I love nit-picking:
You explained the need to comply with Newtonian gravity on our usual scale, which is obviously given. However, you kinda implied that doing so would require things to act intuitively the same in any scale. General relativity does not do this, and is our best model: a good theory (electric universe has no theory at all, but this argument argues it couldn't possibly ever have) can have significant limits and vastly differing areas, as long as they are derived logically and are not at odds with each other. In general relativity, we see why on earth and on most planetary systems newtonian gravity is so precise: compared to speed of light, the relative velocity of objects we measure is marginal, thus time dilation is neglectable.
Secondly right after you lay many good layman examples what theory arguing that electromagnetism is very significant force for everyday objects, on par with gravity, would absolutely need to explain. However it would be fair to acknowledge that hypothetical plausible theory (there is none, and there won't be one. But this line of arguing tries to show us why so it has to be assumed so it can be falsified) would probably be fine explaining only few of these, and the rest carry out naturally. For example: the main interaction is magnetic field: my layman understanding goes as far that I'm quite confident insulation of shoes won't matter. Humans probably don't carry enough current through us, ever, to change how we would interact with hypothetical earth-sized magnet. So we'd explode in MRI, see magnetic objects falling faster and could generate electricity by just moving around. But we wouldn't get lighter by wearing rubber shoes. Similarly if some secret second electronic current was connecting us to earth, the magnetic fields it (we, all the time) would generate would not be the same as super strong poles of a planet.
The second one is quite minor point and as the idea is so ridiculous and any earth magnetism theory of gravity would need to re-explain both forces pretty much entirely from scrap. So acknowledging that one or two of the million obvious cases it would struggle with are likely mutually exclusive won't exactly help.
However the first point: what if general relativity on scales it disagrees with Newtonian gravity is actually some secret web of electromagnetism is in my opinion more poisonous pseudotheory as it's harder to debunk, and can easily jab back on examples on earth by pointing at general relativity and saying "you don't consider that the falling magnets experience time differently from you either, now do you?". So focusing on it and especially why it can't possibly comply with constant speed of light would in my opinion be a more fruitful starting point. (unless time is now somehow electromagnetic dimension of universe, and all speeds and distances somehow secretly tie into electromagnetism regardless of current, polarity and magnetic fields).
Either way, it's quite funny how often bad science is just some quack either trying to write bibble into science or write a new bibble-like mythology from some mixture of astrology and documentaryfilm level understanding of science. Or as it often is, both.
do you understand when you make long thoughtful arguments people cannot reply to it
I think I understand what your nitpick is. You're saying, if we play devil's advocate, one can make a stronger argument for electric universe by adding in some term in their equations so that the effects are only noticeable at large scales.
I want to nitpick your nitpick. Instead of saying "a good theory can have significant limits", I think the correct way to describe it would be more like "there are limits to empirical tests that can be done when the theory predicts a very small difference".
I don't know about you, but some people have the wrong assumption that there's a boundary of some sort where physics transition from newtonian to relativistic. There are actually people who say "relativity doesn't apply when going sufficiently slow". No, relativity does apply, it's just that it predicts almost the same behaviour as newtonian physics. Insofar as there is a difference, relativity is still the more accurate over newtonian, even at slow speeds. It's just that in everyday life we don't care about differences so insignificant. But it is there.
Both the Bunker and the Debunker err to presume too much. So, let's get Socrates' input. For, Socrates is one of the foremost authorities on wisdom...
Through his genius, Socrates illustrated the fact that wisdom is the ability to know and admit the limits of one's knowledge. Wisdom is knowing that one does NOT know. Wisdom is the opposite of presumption. So...
Wisdom is a requirement in order to engage TRUE science. And through the process of elimination, the scientist must admit that which he does NOT know in order to be left standing securely on that which he DOES know.
With that in mind...
Newton and Einstein described WHAT gravity DOES, which proves correct (with math).
But they then theorized WHY gravity does these things. And they theorized HOW gravity does these things. Which led them to theorize WHAT gravity IS. But theories require presumption. And Newton's theories on the latter three topics are acknowledged to be incorrect by modern scientists. And Einstein's theories on these topics have yet to be proved.
So, all science really knows is WHAT GRAVITY DOES.
And this brings us to human nature, which is the monkey wrench in the gears of science (and philosophy and religion, for that matter).Why? PRESUMPTION; wisdom’s opposite.
Men like to think they know things that they do NOT know, as Socrates illustrated so well. And a good psychiatrist knows that this is because men seek a sense of security in this manner.
Now, someone with a very high IQ and a PhD (or several PhD's) is going to believe that he can study and experiment and think his way to the answers that he seeks. However, I will ask such a person right now to use math to give me the EXACT circumference of a circle that has a diameter of 10 inches, down to the final decimal.
A simple request. But he knows that he cannot honor it.
And yet, even Albert Einstein thought that math would allow him to know the Mind of God.
So, what high IQ PhD would believe that a simple man with no more than a high school education can know more than he concerning the biggest questions? The simple man who, not by thinking, but by SILENCING his ego mind and LISTENING to the Mind of GOD.
For, as it turns, That Mind is ALL that there truly is! And try as it may, science will never be able to dissect or know That Mind. But it CAN listen and learn.
"The Book of GOD" at A Course in Truth.
Once you have the simple answers to the BIGGEST questions, all others are moot.
@@tomrhodes1629 1984 much?
@@tomrhodes1629 Sure , this mind of God give me the exact circumference of a 10 inch diameter circle to the last digit?
I though not.
Without this video, who knws how far down I could've gone...
he save you?
@@brandon.export879 sure did
@@brandon.export879 BRUH... he SAVED ME
@@earth14rocco36 I’m glad to hear that, genuinely
@@brandon.export879 that's beautiful. thanx
There is one good thing about the electric universe: it gave me a setting for a space adventure that could be fun to map out.
It boggles my mind how someone with a Physics degree could sign up to this.
Could've started out with telling us that those people cite literal cave drawings, would've spared me watching 10 minutes of this.
@@sonpopco-op9682 It's entirely possible the drawings were of a constellation that existed at that time, plenty of stars have died and even exploded. Most likely they weren't trying to tell people in the future anything.
How often do ones doodles have meaning for the future?
Son&PopCo-OP Yeah too bad all we can do is baselessly speculate as to what was going through the mind of loincloth Leonardo Da Vinci... Then again that applies to most art/artists. I do like some of his nature paintings though! You know, the ones with the horses? Their most impressive accomplishments include making pigments and using them in caves where time and weather have a harder time erasing them.
I really enjoyed the first part of Ancient Aliens too! Some people will believe anything. For me, I lend any idea credibility until it becomes obvious that speculation is really all it is. I could imagine the aboriginal people drawing the large white humanoids (ancestors or aliens!?) who currently rule Scientology Centers all over the flat plane, but I’ll never know what Tom Cruise or Flat Earthers are thinking! 😂
@@GlennSwart So how does time dilation work in an electric universe?
@@Keys4Change No life would survive on earth to the point of a supernova let alone survive it.
@@invaderzim256 He said the sun's nova. Not a supernova. We now know that many stars repeatedly nova and still remain.
Apparently random ad hom is supposed to be a concise counterargument? Interesting
No, the 25 minutes of irrefutable physics and logic is the counterargument. Try actually watching this.
he's dense theres a history of that in life lol anyway he's really smart and correct about alot but this is not an example of that
Technically, gravity does play a role in powering a star by compressing the plasma so much that it allows nuclear fusion.
I wish you addressed "Pharis E. Williams: Dynamic Theory" during this presentation. By chance that you see this, would you take a deep dive into that topic and make a video?
Man, that part about reading textbooks was so relatable. I’m outlining my chemistry textbook and there’s so much about quantum mechanics that I had no clue about. Just looking at the equations and how they’re derived gives me the same feeling that I get when looking through a telescope at night. It’s difficult to see at first, but your brain really does begin to make those connections between math and science. And when it does, it’s awesome!
i mean math is just a tool we use to quantify logic.
like we normally think of logic as just "if then, then that", but math lets us put that type of logical thinking into actual quantities and shit.
its basically teh same thing.
YES! Math is the pure logic tool to describe the truth, not the truth itself
QM and GR are a one big fiction.
I remember just the feeling you describe in my Waves and Optics course sophomore year of college. It’s like the veil of reality has been lifted and you’re allowed to see behind the curtain.
I just find it amazing that the eggheads can visualize hypothetical ideas purely with math. Like how Einstein visualized how time slows down around you at the speed of light, and made an equation that explains it. I don't get how math can describe specific things like that, but the fact that it can is astounding. I wish I wasn't completely hopeless at understanding mathematics so I could experience your epiphany.
I like how you presented this video. I just have one question with relativity, wtf is dark energy because the universe is accelerating in expansion. It was worth mentioning if you are advocating general relativity. Maybe its explained by quantized inertia?
@Ian w16 In 1998, the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) observations of very distant supernovae that showed that, a long time ago, the universe was actually expanding more slowly than it is today. GR is not a perfect model which explains every gravitational force, it's missing key pieces. Even Einstein knew this & he came up with a "cosmological constant" This has lead to the theoretical emergence of dark energy/matter & we know nothing about it. There are a few theories which predict what it can be(including quantized inertia which is pretty extreme in itself) but ultimately we do not understand why the universe is accelerating in expansion. I red flagged EU a long time ago because apparently it even supersedes string theory & explains everything. Only experimentation and validity will reveal the truth.
@Science Revolution Our constellations always change, that is the fact. The polar star was not the polar star when the greeks had their high culture cirka 700-200 b.c. The astrology signs have changed 1 1/2 signs since the greek named them due to polar procession. That is if you call your sign a lion you might be gemini. Note that I do not claim astrology has anything to do with reality. You only don't grasp the size of the universe. It is big. Very big. Very very big. If you would take the fastest military anti air robot (mach 4), and shoot to the closest and furthest star you can see with the naked eye at, it would travel 874 thousand years to the closest star and 1,75 billion years to the furthest star you can see with the naked eye. These are all in the closest part of our galaxy.
Edit: And we have measured the expansion of the universe. We are using a standard candle. The rate is not 100% settled rate, but our best estimate gives the universe an age of 13.8 Billion years. @Tech Planet even explained it in more detail
@Science Revolution For the love e of Sagan! You. Are. An. IDIOT!
@Science Revolution Nope, they change. Very slowly. The distances involved are so enormous that even large amounts of movement from our perspective are meaningless. The North Star has changed over the past 6000 years, it used to be a different star. To quote Dave from another video "I'm sorry that astronomical phenomenon don't conform to your lifespan".
@Science Revolution The expansion of the universe affects the distances between distant galaxies, not nearby stars (which is what constellations are made up of). The stars within our galaxy are all in orbit around a common centre. So, the stars that we see in the night sky are all moving the same direction so they don't change much within our lifetime. There are exceptions, such as Barnard's star which noticeably moves over decades of observations. astronomer.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Barnard_199_-to_2007.jpg That motion has nothing to do with the expansion of the universe, but rather the motion of the star within our galaxy.
I have a personality disorder,and dont buy into the conspiracy,anti science bullshit. I have respect for science.
Then it’s not targeted at you
That line irked me a bit. Not fond of "personality disorder" as an insult. I've never heard of a personality disorder making someone more likely to believe in conspiracy theories, so its use here is totally irrelevant.
@@zoyadulzura7490 You mean me,or how Professor Dave used it? I like Dave,but that kinda irritated me to be honest.
@@johngavin1175 I mean in the video. I feel the same way you do.
@@zoyadulzura7490 Thats good. Would OCD and Intrusive thoughts count as or be related to personality disorders?
Flat earthers: “ nuh uh”
"...Okay, now that we've grounded ourselves..."
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Did anyone else see a pun in there?
I did, glad to know someone else did
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No reason to be so "negative" about it. :-)
@@my3dviews Hahaha, always having a "positive" worldview, huh? Pretty "shocking" isn't it?
@@SamuelTrademarked Ohm my God, Watt are you talking about? :-)
I'm kind of lost because you haven't explained what their stance is to begin with... I guess I have to go and watch that video. I was hoping not to give conspiracy people views.
@@isorokudono Really, they made a sun in the lab and all they have to show for it is a rabid fan that likes punk music?
@@mrsHeather985 Only to people that have flat brains
@Ian w16 Read current major scientific journal content from universities, national labs, and international scientific cooperatives ?!?! "Ain't nobody got time for that!
It seems some people have come across some of the books by Immanuel Velikovsky and thought he was a scientist.
I can't believe how many people are commenting denouncing this video despite having no formal education in physics lol
It's painful at first to have their silly bubble burst.
PhD's in physics support the electric universe theory. This dude studied chemistry and just general physics. So I'll totally believe him and his little memer cultists in this comment section.
23:06 Why did he use the Fallout guy showing the middle finger and slap "EU" to on it it represent someone who believes in the Electric Universe? It seems so out of place.
i have to use images that are licensed for fair use, i just take what i can get for free, i don't really know or care who the little dude is.
@@BenGrem917 you must be 10 year old
@@sirwhitemeat9785 Jesse Lee Peterson: "ar yu an adult vidya gaymer? BEYTAH!"
@@davorbrijacak lol yeah didn't someone call him a computer gamer?
Off topic but I'm disappointed in that you didn't go over the "Crisis in Cosmology" paper that came out last year when you covered the early universe in earlier videos.
Suggest it to him directly in posts or write an email to him! Try your best to get heard, and ignore this Kenny Nickell who again like many other comes from pure bad faith/motivation thinking fully bad of Dave (and on the other hand fully believing the gospel of Michio Kaku, even though Michio was likely referring to a different cosmological theory like the old heliocentric from Copernicus or something else on that 10^120 thing). The difference is not that the whole entire model is wrong, and while the time/distance discrepancy between the two methods in the crisis in cosmology is large and noticeable, it's not off by a factor of 10^120.
If it however eventually shows it to be, would mean the universe would be 10^120 as much old, (as it is no way 10^-111th of a second young)
Valleis marineris, is formed from both plate tectonics and water eroding it, similar to the grand canyon (the one in the American west coast)
I don't know if I'd call it 'plate' tectonics. It appears to be a giant crustal tearing, due to the uplift of the Tharsis region. It certainly wasn't caused by giant electrical woo! :)