Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Is hafs quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is warsh quran a quran? A. Yes Q. Is qaloon quran a quran? A. Yes Q. How many qurans? A. One quran Q. Are all qurans around the world same? A. Yes Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants? A. Yes Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter? A. Yes Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"? A. They are different accents Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite? A. 7 Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy? A. 6 Q. How many ahrufs today? A. 7 Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite? A. None Q. How many qiraats today? A. 10, 15, 20, 50 Q. Is Bible preserved? A. No Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible? A. Yes Q. Did muhamad marry a child? A. No Q. How old was aisha? A. 6
Mohammad did not teach the same message as the previous prophets, you are lying or ignorant, mohammad does not line up with the previous prophets, read what the other prophets say, then read the contradictions of mohammad, he was a false prophet and you have all been lied to 😊
It's sad the past people lied so bad to protect a false religion. They didn't want to admit wrong which shows their pride is greater than their search for truth.
According to Yasir Qahdi, prophets Hijabs best buddy. The Quran is not word by word perfect. The standard islamic narrative have holes in it. Shabir Ali admitted that the Quran is not word for word preserved.
Where can we find the different versions of the quran? Several versions of the Quran are known to be in use, reflecting different recitations (Qira'at). Each recitation is associated with a different reading tradition. Here are some of the most recognized versions and where they can typically be found: 1. Hafs 'an 'Asim • Location: Predominantly used in the Muslim world, particularly in countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and most parts of the Arab world, as well as non-Arab countries like Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan. • Description: This is the most widely used version today and is often referred to simply as the "standard" Quran. 2. Warsh 'an Nafi' • Location: Mainly used in parts of North and West Africa, including countries like Morocco, Algeria, Mauritania, and parts of Tunisia. • Description: This recitation is known for its unique pronunciation and orthographic features different from the Hafs version. 3. Qalun 'an Nafi' • Location: Commonly found in Libya. • Description: Another variant associated with the Nafi' tradition, with its own distinctive pronunciations and readings. 4. Ad-Duri 'an Abu 'Amr • Location: Predominantly used in Sudan and parts of West Africa. • Description: This recitation follows the transmission of Abu 'Amr, known for its particular linguistic features. 5. Khalaf 'an Hamzah • Location: Occasionally found in parts of the Middle East. • Description: This recitation is less common but still recognized for its unique variations in reading. 6. Al-Susi 'an Abu 'Amr • Location: Some regions of Yemen and Sudan. • Description: Another transmission under the Abu 'Amr tradition, distinct in its own right. 7. Ibn Kathir al-Makki • Location: Occasionally found in parts of Yemen. • Description: Known for its classical reading style and historical significance. 8. Abu Ja'far • Location: Used in limited regions, often studied by scholars. • Description: One of the lesser-known recitations but still important in the study of Quranic readings. 9. Al-Kisa'i • Location: Historically used in parts of Iraq, especially Kufa, and studied in scholarly circles. • Description: This recitation is known for its distinct pronunciation and grammatical rules, with two main transmissions: Al-Duri and Abu Al-Harith. It is one of the ten canonical Qira'at with unique phonetic and syntactic features.
@@salty-tomato it's not about Mary the natural reading of the text says it's about Eve. Just as David is not the the father of Jesus but Jesus is called the seed of David. Jesus is the offspring of Eve. Ppl read Mary into the text to put Mary on a pedalstal when she is just a woman who God chose for a particular purpose of giving birth to Jesus. She was not sinless or anything like that. She needed a savior just as every other human
@monadavis1746 your barking up the wrong tree sister. I do not worship mary pray to her or venerate her in any way but I do know about the proto evangelion which is the first prophecy concerning Messiah & obviously the "woman" who would bring him into this world. No one denies it is Miriam Jesus' mother not even the muslims. God did not tell Eve her direct offspring would be the one but based on Cains name she wrongly presumed it was him. But this does not negate the prophecy. And David is the direct ancestor of Jesus. A father to David. Read all the geneologies & find Marys line going back to Eve as well. Maybe you just do not believe prophecy or Scriptures But the Scriptures remain clear & give a good reason for Jesus to refer to his dear mother as "Woman'. I do not see other examples of this term used in this way only this one.
@@hneemann Depends on context there, it sometimes is talking about the one God, who has some kind of inner plurality, and occasionally might be talking about the angels, who are lords of a sort, as in set up in positions of authority. You will know from the Tanakh that God is only one God, but has a Spirit and also can appear to us, if God was just a unit entity sitting on a throne as per Quran, He could not be God, as too limited, omniscience for instance impossible without omnipresence (so one entity of 90 foot height seated on a throne could not be God.)
The Koran has about 26 versions with different words with different meanings. So if there are different books that means it's not from god. Umar did it. He came up with a different verses and he's notva prophet. Uthman burnt Korans, that means they were different. Otherwise why burn them?
I use to face the sun and prayed to Allah when I was a teen. The sun would shine on me so beautifully. But when I found out they altered 19:33 and than denied Mary and JESUS I was done ad being true I was done
@@Spoken-e5p LOL taqiyya much? Your reply doesn't value add a single thing as you can't justify nor debunk. No wonder momos are losing both spiritual and physical wars. LOLLL
@godlogic I’m a Christian and I’m trying to be non biased. How does different recitations of the Quran equal to different Qurans? Can you clarify on that please?
The changes are not dialect changes, as sometimes dawah people argue, rather the words used are altered. The major reason seems to be the 7C Arabic script did not specify vowels and had group consonant sets under one symbol. Then you can see when the script was improved they had to put in the correct word, but the original script is not able to provide the specification, and the context does not always help. So different texts in different places have different diacritical marks added, in the improved script, leading to different words. (The Sana'a manuscript shows up other issues, such as editing of the original text.)
Muhammads miracle👇 sahih albukhary Sahih al-Bukhari 3320 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink) and take it out, for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."
Need more teaching Both mean "he instructed" or "enjoined." .vs (Sahirani) سَاجِرَان .4 (Sihrani) سِحْرَان • Found in Surah Al-Qasas (28:48). • Sahirani: "Two magicians." • Sihrãni: "Two works of magic." .vs (Wasari'u) وَسَارِعُوا .5 (Sariü) سَارِعُوا • Found in Surah Aal-e-Imran (3:133). • Wasari'u: "And hasten." • Sari'u: "Hasten."
😂😂 Here are examples of small Greek verse variations with the same meaning but slight differences in wording: 1. Matthew 5:22 • Some manuscripts: “ὃς ἂν εἴπῃ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·” (Whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.) • Other manuscripts: “ὃς δ᾽ ἂν εἴπῃ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·” (Whoever says, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.) 2. Mark 14:65 • Some manuscripts: “Καὶ ἤρξαντό τινες ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…” (And some began to spit on Him…) • Other manuscripts: “Καὶ ἤρξαντο ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…” (And they began to spit on Him…) 3. Luke 6:40 • Some manuscripts: “οὐκ ἔστιν μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·” (A disciple is not above his teacher.) • Other manuscripts: “οὐκ ἔστι μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·” (No disciple is above the teacher.) These small variations occur due to differences in word order, inclusion of articles, or slight phrasing changes, but the overall message remains the same.
@@bensongitonga4113 Christians who use the claim that “Uthman standardized the Quran by burning variants” often do so to question the preservation and authenticity of the Quran. The underlying arguments and motivations can vary, but here’s an analysis of why this point is raised and how it can be addressed: 1. Argument: Uthman Destroyed Variants, So the Quran Was Altered • Claim: Christians argue that since Uthman ordered the burning of regional Quranic copies, this suggests there were “multiple versions” of the Quran, which were unified under political authority. • Motivation: This argument is often used to equate the Quran with the Bible, which went through various edits, councils, and disagreements about its canon (e.g., Council of Nicaea, variations in the Old and New Testaments). Response: 1. No Variants in the Quran’s Core Content: • Uthman did not standardize the Quran because of disagreements about its content; he addressed variations in pronunciation and dialect (e.g., Qurayshi vs. other tribal accents), not differences in the Quran’s verses. • The Quran was already compiled into a single book during the caliphate of Abu Bakr shortly after the Prophet’s death, based on written materials and oral memorization by numerous companions. 2. Unanimous Agreement Among Companions: • Uthman’s actions were supported by all major companions of the Prophet, including those who had memorized the Quran. There was no protest or accusation of tampering. • This is in stark contrast to the Bible’s history, where disagreements about books and content (e.g., apocryphal texts) were common among early Christians. 3. Burning of Copies: • The destruction of unofficial copies was not about hiding “different versions” but ensuring uniformity to prevent confusion as Islam spread to non-Arabic-speaking regions. • This was a necessary step for preserving the Quran in its original revealed form. 2. Argument: The Bible Was Preserved Without Standardization • Claim: Christians sometimes contrast the Quran’s standardization with the claim that the Bible was preserved naturally without a central authority intervening. • Motivation: To suggest that the Bible is more authentic because its canon was “divinely inspired” without human interference. Response: 1. Bible’s History of Edits and Variations: • Unlike the Quran, the Bible underwent significant human intervention: • The Council of Nicaea (325 CE) debated the divinity of Jesus and shaped the Christian canon. • There are major textual variations in Bible manuscripts, such as: • The inclusion or omission of Mark 16:9-20. • The absence of the story of the adulterous woman (John 7:53-8:11) in early manuscripts. • Protestants and Catholics use different Bibles (e.g., Protestant Bibles exclude the Deuterocanonical books). 2. No Original Manuscripts: • The Bible’s original manuscripts do not exist. What Christians have today are translations of translations, often with textual differences. • In contrast, the Quran has been preserved in its original Arabic form, with an unbroken chain of oral and written transmission. 3. Argument: Uthman’s Actions Were Political • Claim: Christians argue that Uthman’s standardization was politically motivated, aiming to consolidate his authority. • Motivation: To suggest that the Quran’s preservation is tied to human intervention rather than divine preservation. Response: 1. Religious, Not Political, Motivation: • Uthman’s goal was to preserve religious unity among Muslims. The Quran’s content was already agreed upon by all Muslims, and his actions were practical, not political. • If Uthman’s intent was political, there would have been disagreements or protests from companions of the Prophet-none occurred. 2. Preservation Fulfilled Divine Promise: • Quran 15:9: “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Quran, and indeed, We will be its guardian.” • The process of preserving the Quran through Uthman’s actions fulfilled this divine promise, ensuring consistency across the Muslim world. 4. Why Christians Use This Argument 1. Equating Quran with Bible: • By questioning the Quran’s preservation, Christians attempt to divert attention from the textual variations and historical edits in the Bible. 2. Challenging Islam’s Claim of Divine Preservation: • Islam asserts that the Quran is unchanged since its revelation, whereas the Bible has a documented history of alterations. Questioning the Quran’s preservation helps shift focus from the Bible’s inconsistencies. 3. Misunderstanding of Islamic History: • Many Christians are unaware of the oral tradition in Islam, where thousands of companions memorized the Quran. They misunderstand Uthman’s efforts as altering content rather than standardizing pronunciation. 5. Conclusion Christians use the claim about Uthman’s standardization to question the Quran’s authenticity. However, this argument is based on misunderstandings or false equivalence with the Bible’s history. The Quran was preserved both orally and in writing during the Prophet’s lifetime, and Uthman’s standardization ensured consistency without altering its content. In contrast, the Bible’s history is marked by significant textual variations and human intervention, making the Quran’s preservation unique and unmatched.
@@Mick-i1f These variations don't matter to the authenticity of Christianity because the Bible doesn't pretend to be the word for word uncreated word of God, where if a single word is changed the belief falls apart. Fun thing about these variations is that they're always caused by not fully competent scribes wanting to spread Christianity as fast as possible; It's good we have more than 2 manuscripts so we can compare them to each other...
It's mind boggling how a person that believes in a false doctrine like the Trinity has the nerve to try and humiliate other peoples beliefs. First you need to fix your own household before you make video's about other people. Hello POT, meet the kettle…. smh
You say false doctrine yet your Allah affirms our book .Your Allah says if you have doubts go to the people of the book... and yes the people of the book will humiliate you cause Muhammad was a false prophet....he made false claims of him being mentioned by name in our scripture but he's nowhere to be found.😊
@@Dave09-m4c I'm not a Muslim. I have Christian beliefs. And like I said, you have big nerve coming for other peoples religion when you don't even know YOUR OWN bible. smh
Another falaacy by this loosing dude ...these are dialects .not versions .thrte is only one Quran unchanged .this dude knows it and is lying thru his teeth ..he cannot really disputevthe truth ..islamvrising ..ruclips.net/video/zqzSxdfgc_U/видео.htmlsi=w80QU5pi0ZHfEIqJ
@@chrisanderson7258 God's guide for Slave masters: "Successful Slavery for dummies", God, inconsistencies; anger and destruction in the Old Testament, peace and love in the New Testament. Thousands of different, disagreeing denominations all of which came out of the roman catholic church.
bart erman ' there are 50000 biblical manuscripts no two alike and none of the gospels were written by any apostle ' christians respond ' there are more than 1 quran. lol bishop bosworth smith ' the quran is the only scripture preserved in its original language '
There are 5,800 Greek manuscripts 11,000 Syriac manuscripts and 24,000 Latin manuscripts Matthew and John are Apostles Mark and Luke are not Eyewitnesses but are writing the accounts of the Apostles ie Peter James Bartholomew etc Paul was a Jewish Pharisee who killed Christians who then converted Christianity after seeing the Risen Christ The New Testament was complete before 70 AD
So what if it's preserved in its original language That's a stupid argument Greek was the International language of the time so it makes more sense that it's written in the language most commonly used and in more than one language so it's more widely accessible
99% of the textual variants are spelling mistakes or pronoun use eg our Lord walked to Jerusalem Jesus walked to Jerusalem Bart Erhman also says No variant changes any belief any doctrine any Theology any meaning any practice
There are 37 different Qurans discovered so far with 93,000 differences between them with Different Words Different Meanings Different Theology Different Practices and Different Doctrines My source Dr Jay Smith Dr Daniel Brubaker
There are 5,800 Greek manuscripts 11,000 Syriac manuscripts and 24,000 Latin manuscripts 99% of the differences are spelling mistakes word order or pronoun use ie Our Lord walked to Jerusalem Jesus walked to Jerusalem Bart Erhman also says that no variant changes any doctrine any belief any Theology any practice any meaning
Bro stop trying to discredit Islam and instead focus on your Christianity. As they Qur’an challenged humanity over 1400 years to find a contradiction or come up with a book like it. You waste too much time trying to discredit God. Islam is simple and not complicated to understand at all. Believe in One God and all his messengers.
@@Mick-i1f Have you not seen such differences displayed - they are mostly small, but some are complete flips of meaning. So for instance Mohammed's one prophecy in the Quran about the Romans overcoming the Persians (no time placement though for the verse) is in some qirats indicating victory the other way. The 7C northern Arabic script used for the Quran was primitive, not even all consonants specified then, so it cannot have been regularly recited early on, since they had to guess some vowels and consonants in the 8C/9C and got some wrong in different texts.
@ Nah bro I'm afraid your wrong and really haven't studied this subject I recite the Quran and first hand can tell you there is not a single different in recitation How they write it might be slight in text but not different on how it's read Same meaning same recitation
Muslimah: "Not one word! Not even a single word can be different." 😅😅😅 Oh, darlin! Let's compare Al-Fatihah between the Hafs recitation (~80% of the Qurans out there) and the Warsh recitation (used throughout northern Africa) Hafs: مَـٰلِكِ يَوْمِ ٱلدِّينِ ٤ alternatively written as: مَـالِكِ يَوْمِ ٱلدِّينِ ٤ _Maaliki youm addeen_ "Master/Owner of the day of judgement" Warsh: مَلِكِ يَوْمِ ٱلدِّينِ ٤ _Meliki youm addeen_ "King of the day of judgment" Master/Owner (maalik) vs King (melik) _These are indeed 2 different words!_ 🧐🤔
😂😂 Here are examples of small Greek verse variations with the same meaning but slight differences in wording: 1. Matthew 5:22 • Some manuscripts: “ὃς ἂν εἴπῃ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·” (Whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.) • Other manuscripts: “ὃς δ᾽ ἂν εἴπῃ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·” (Whoever says, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.) 2. Mark 14:65 • Some manuscripts: “Καὶ ἤρξαντό τινες ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…” (And some began to spit on Him…) • Other manuscripts: “Καὶ ἤρξαντο ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…” (And they began to spit on Him…) 3. Luke 6:40 • Some manuscripts: “οὐκ ἔστιν μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·” (A disciple is not above his teacher.) • Other manuscripts: “οὐκ ἔστι μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·” (No disciple is above the teacher.) These small variations occur due to differences in word order, inclusion of articles, or slight phrasing changes, but the overall message remains the same.
She doesn't know which koran is the right one. That means there are different Korans.
She proved the point.
exactly
thanks to the internet 💀. Internet broke Islam 💀
Lmfaoooooo
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Is hafs quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is warsh quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. Is qaloon quran a quran?
A. Yes
Q. How many qurans?
A. One quran
Q. Are all qurans around the world same?
A. Yes
Q. Do the Sana manuscript and Birmingham manuscript have variants?
A. Yes
Q. Are qurans preserved word for word, letter for letter?
A. Yes
Q. In sura 37.12, one quran says "you", another "I"?
A. They are different accents
Q. How many ahrufs did muhamad recite?
A. 7
Q. How many ahrufs did uthman destroy?
A. 6
Q. How many ahrufs today?
A. 7
Q. How many qiraats did muhamad recite?
A. None
Q. How many qiraats today?
A. 10, 15, 20, 50
Q. Is Bible preserved?
A. No
Q. Is muhamad prophesied in the Bible?
A. Yes
Q. Did muhamad marry a child?
A. No
Q. How old was aisha?
A. 6
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Mohammad did not teach the same message as the previous prophets, you are lying or ignorant, mohammad does not line up with the previous prophets, read what the other prophets say, then read the contradictions of mohammad, he was a false prophet and you have all been lied to 😊
It's sad the past people lied so bad to protect a false religion. They didn't want to admit wrong which shows their pride is greater than their search for truth.
Do you mean like how the Trinitarians believe in their FALSE doctrine?
@@Cherry-s8s8l
Not according to the bible.
@@Cherry-s8s8lWhy do you call it false? The concept of trinity exists within the bible.
According to Yasir Qahdi, prophets Hijabs best buddy.
The Quran is not word by word perfect. The standard islamic narrative have holes in it.
Shabir Ali admitted that the Quran is not word for word preserved.
Where can we find the different versions of the quran? Several versions of the Quran are known to be in use, reflecting different recitations (Qira'at). Each recitation is associated with a different reading tradition. Here are some of the most recognized versions and where they can typically be found:
1. Hafs 'an 'Asim
• Location: Predominantly used in the Muslim world, particularly in countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and most parts of the Arab world, as well as non-Arab countries like Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan.
• Description: This is the most widely used version today and is often referred to simply as the "standard" Quran.
2. Warsh 'an Nafi'
• Location: Mainly used in parts of North and West Africa, including countries like Morocco, Algeria, Mauritania, and parts of Tunisia.
• Description: This recitation is known for its unique pronunciation and orthographic features different from the Hafs version.
3. Qalun 'an Nafi'
• Location: Commonly found in Libya.
• Description: Another variant associated with the Nafi' tradition, with its own distinctive pronunciations and readings.
4. Ad-Duri 'an Abu 'Amr
• Location: Predominantly used in Sudan and parts of West Africa.
• Description: This recitation follows the transmission of Abu 'Amr, known for its particular linguistic features.
5. Khalaf 'an Hamzah
• Location: Occasionally found in parts of the Middle East.
• Description: This recitation is less common but still recognized for its unique variations in reading.
6. Al-Susi 'an Abu 'Amr
• Location: Some regions of Yemen and Sudan.
• Description: Another transmission under the Abu 'Amr tradition, distinct in its own right.
7. Ibn Kathir al-Makki
• Location: Occasionally found in parts of Yemen.
• Description: Known for its classical reading style and historical significance.
8. Abu Ja'far
• Location: Used in limited regions, often studied by scholars.
• Description: One of the lesser-known recitations but still important in the study of Quranic readings.
9. Al-Kisa'i
• Location: Historically used in parts of Iraq, especially Kufa, and studied in scholarly circles.
• Description: This recitation is known for its distinct pronunciation and grammatical rules, with two main transmissions: Al-Duri and Abu Al-Harith. It is one of the ten canonical Qira'at with unique phonetic and syntactic features.
Thank you for providing this information🙏
With different words and different meanings. Different unpreserved Qurans. No miracle. 😮
Mary is called 'woman' because she is the one referred in genesis 3:15 and again at the bottom of the cross in Luke 19:26
Lol no she isn't God is talking to Eve ppl read what they want into the text
☝This is💯 accurate
@monadavis1746
It is called the Proto- Evangelium & it is a prophecy about Messiahs mother Miriam & Gods plan of salvation
@@salty-tomato it's not about Mary the natural reading of the text says it's about Eve. Just as David is not the the father of Jesus but Jesus is called the seed of David. Jesus is the offspring of Eve. Ppl read Mary into the text to put Mary on a pedalstal when she is just a woman who God chose for a particular purpose of giving birth to Jesus. She was not sinless or anything like that. She needed a savior just as every other human
@monadavis1746 your barking up the wrong tree sister. I do not worship mary pray to her or venerate her in any way but I do know about the proto evangelion which is the first prophecy concerning Messiah & obviously the "woman" who would bring him into this world. No one denies it is Miriam Jesus' mother not even the muslims. God did not tell Eve her direct offspring would be the one but based on Cains name she wrongly presumed it was him. But this does not negate the prophecy.
And David is the direct ancestor of Jesus. A father to David. Read all the geneologies & find Marys line going back to Eve as well.
Maybe you just do not believe prophecy or Scriptures But the Scriptures remain clear & give a good reason for Jesus to refer to his dear mother as "Woman'.
I do not see other examples of this term used in this way only this one.
Blind to the Truth it was 600 years after the truth that's enough for any body
Fascinating how Allah never calls himself 'I'
Fascinating how you guys still dont know that "Elohim" is the PLURAL of "eloah". the GODssssssssssss
@@hneemann Depends on context there, it sometimes is talking about the one God, who has some kind of inner plurality, and occasionally might be talking about the angels, who are lords of a sort, as in set up in positions of authority. You will know from the Tanakh that God is only one God, but has a Spirit and also can appear to us, if God was just a unit entity sitting on a throne as per Quran, He could not be God, as too limited, omniscience for instance impossible without omnipresence (so one entity of 90 foot height seated on a throne could not be God.)
demons speak a lot using "we"
@@bluelightmoon777 legion
@@hneemann and those "godssss" are fallen angels, demons, Nephilim. Try again 😂
They know so much but know nothing at the same time 🤦🏽♀️…. How Sway?
there's none so blind as those who will not see
The Koran has about 26 versions with different words with different meanings. So if there are different books that means it's not from god.
Umar did it. He came up with a different verses and he's notva prophet.
Uthman burnt Korans, that means they were different. Otherwise why burn them?
I use to face the sun and prayed to Allah when I was a teen. The sun would shine on me so beautifully.
But when I found out they altered 19:33 and than denied Mary and JESUS I was done ad being true I was done
Of course it is ONE quran, because Uthman burned ALL versions and nobody even know the remaning ONE quran is it the original. LOLLL
😅😅😅.. My goodness you people twist everything..
@@Spoken-e5p LOL taqiyya much? Your reply doesn't value add a single thing as you can't justify nor debunk. No wonder momos are losing both spiritual and physical wars. LOLLL
Son of muta desperate liar 😂😂😂 there 30 Qurans 100 translations
Yet they standardized 30 canonized Qurans….. hmmmm
"I dont have knowledge to tell you which one is the quran, but i can tell you there are no other versions of the one quran" ??
So he did mention that there were fake qurans. He also admitted that he don't have the knowledge to discern from them.
@godlogic I’m a Christian and I’m trying to be non biased. How does different recitations of the Quran equal to different Qurans? Can you clarify on that please?
The changes are not dialect changes, as sometimes dawah people argue, rather the words used are altered. The major reason seems to be the 7C Arabic script did not specify vowels and had group consonant sets under one symbol. Then you can see when the script was improved they had to put in the correct word, but the original script is not able to provide the specification, and the context does not always help. So different texts in different places have different diacritical marks added, in the improved script, leading to different words. (The Sana'a manuscript shows up other issues, such as editing of the original text.)
@@collybever ahhh. Thank you
It's not versions it totally different meanings. One Quran has 5000 errors,contradictions mistakes etc
Oh ohhh always the muslimas least knowledgeable yet the most argumentative ..
Muhammads miracle👇 sahih albukhary Sahih al-Bukhari 3320
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink) and take it out, for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease."
Those who want to deny the miracle of Moses claim they crossed by the tidal Reed Sea
So it's not a given that it's the Red Sea
“the quran is a detailed description of everthing” yea that doesnt seem to hold up
Where does Jesus being Almighty God hold up in the Bible?
@@Cherry-s8s8l
Read John 1, it holds up very well.
Need more teaching
Both mean "he instructed" or "enjoined."
.vs (Sahirani) سَاجِرَان .4
(Sihrani) سِحْرَان
• Found in Surah Al-Qasas (28:48).
• Sahirani: "Two magicians."
• Sihrãni: "Two works of magic."
.vs (Wasari'u) وَسَارِعُوا .5
(Sariü) سَارِعُوا
• Found in Surah Aal-e-Imran (3:133).
• Wasari'u: "And hasten."
• Sari'u: "Hasten."
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Here are examples of small Greek verse variations with the same meaning but slight differences in wording:
1. Matthew 5:22
• Some manuscripts:
“ὃς ἂν εἴπῃ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·”
(Whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.)
• Other manuscripts:
“ὃς δ᾽ ἂν εἴπῃ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·”
(Whoever says, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.)
2. Mark 14:65
• Some manuscripts:
“Καὶ ἤρξαντό τινες ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…”
(And some began to spit on Him…)
• Other manuscripts:
“Καὶ ἤρξαντο ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…”
(And they began to spit on Him…)
3. Luke 6:40
• Some manuscripts:
“οὐκ ἔστιν μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·”
(A disciple is not above his teacher.)
• Other manuscripts:
“οὐκ ἔστι μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·”
(No disciple is above the teacher.)
These small variations occur due to differences in word order, inclusion of articles, or slight phrasing changes, but the overall message remains the same.
When did Uthman take those bibles and standardize them?
@@bensongitonga4113
Come again
Explain your question
@@bensongitonga4113
Christians who use the claim that “Uthman standardized the Quran by burning variants” often do so to question the preservation and authenticity of the Quran. The underlying arguments and motivations can vary, but here’s an analysis of why this point is raised and how it can be addressed:
1. Argument: Uthman Destroyed Variants, So the Quran Was Altered
• Claim: Christians argue that since Uthman ordered the burning of regional Quranic copies, this suggests there were “multiple versions” of the Quran, which were unified under political authority.
• Motivation: This argument is often used to equate the Quran with the Bible, which went through various edits, councils, and disagreements about its canon (e.g., Council of Nicaea, variations in the Old and New Testaments).
Response:
1. No Variants in the Quran’s Core Content:
• Uthman did not standardize the Quran because of disagreements about its content; he addressed variations in pronunciation and dialect (e.g., Qurayshi vs. other tribal accents), not differences in the Quran’s verses.
• The Quran was already compiled into a single book during the caliphate of Abu Bakr shortly after the Prophet’s death, based on written materials and oral memorization by numerous companions.
2. Unanimous Agreement Among Companions:
• Uthman’s actions were supported by all major companions of the Prophet, including those who had memorized the Quran. There was no protest or accusation of tampering.
• This is in stark contrast to the Bible’s history, where disagreements about books and content (e.g., apocryphal texts) were common among early Christians.
3. Burning of Copies:
• The destruction of unofficial copies was not about hiding “different versions” but ensuring uniformity to prevent confusion as Islam spread to non-Arabic-speaking regions.
• This was a necessary step for preserving the Quran in its original revealed form.
2. Argument: The Bible Was Preserved Without Standardization
• Claim: Christians sometimes contrast the Quran’s standardization with the claim that the Bible was preserved naturally without a central authority intervening.
• Motivation: To suggest that the Bible is more authentic because its canon was “divinely inspired” without human interference.
Response:
1. Bible’s History of Edits and Variations:
• Unlike the Quran, the Bible underwent significant human intervention:
• The Council of Nicaea (325 CE) debated the divinity of Jesus and shaped the Christian canon.
• There are major textual variations in Bible manuscripts, such as:
• The inclusion or omission of Mark 16:9-20.
• The absence of the story of the adulterous woman (John 7:53-8:11) in early manuscripts.
• Protestants and Catholics use different Bibles (e.g., Protestant Bibles exclude the Deuterocanonical books).
2. No Original Manuscripts:
• The Bible’s original manuscripts do not exist. What Christians have today are translations of translations, often with textual differences.
• In contrast, the Quran has been preserved in its original Arabic form, with an unbroken chain of oral and written transmission.
3. Argument: Uthman’s Actions Were Political
• Claim: Christians argue that Uthman’s standardization was politically motivated, aiming to consolidate his authority.
• Motivation: To suggest that the Quran’s preservation is tied to human intervention rather than divine preservation.
Response:
1. Religious, Not Political, Motivation:
• Uthman’s goal was to preserve religious unity among Muslims. The Quran’s content was already agreed upon by all Muslims, and his actions were practical, not political.
• If Uthman’s intent was political, there would have been disagreements or protests from companions of the Prophet-none occurred.
2. Preservation Fulfilled Divine Promise:
• Quran 15:9: “Indeed, it is We who sent down the Quran, and indeed, We will be its guardian.”
• The process of preserving the Quran through Uthman’s actions fulfilled this divine promise, ensuring consistency across the Muslim world.
4. Why Christians Use This Argument
1. Equating Quran with Bible:
• By questioning the Quran’s preservation, Christians attempt to divert attention from the textual variations and historical edits in the Bible.
2. Challenging Islam’s Claim of Divine Preservation:
• Islam asserts that the Quran is unchanged since its revelation, whereas the Bible has a documented history of alterations. Questioning the Quran’s preservation helps shift focus from the Bible’s inconsistencies.
3. Misunderstanding of Islamic History:
• Many Christians are unaware of the oral tradition in Islam, where thousands of companions memorized the Quran. They misunderstand Uthman’s efforts as altering content rather than standardizing pronunciation.
5. Conclusion
Christians use the claim about Uthman’s standardization to question the Quran’s authenticity. However, this argument is based on misunderstandings or false equivalence with the Bible’s history. The Quran was preserved both orally and in writing during the Prophet’s lifetime, and Uthman’s standardization ensured consistency without altering its content. In contrast, the Bible’s history is marked by significant textual variations and human intervention, making the Quran’s preservation unique and unmatched.
@@Mick-i1f These variations don't matter to the authenticity of Christianity because the Bible doesn't pretend to be the word for word uncreated word of God, where if a single word is changed the belief falls apart. Fun thing about these variations is that they're always caused by not fully competent scribes wanting to spread Christianity as fast as possible; It's good we have more than 2 manuscripts so we can compare them to each other...
THIS MUSLIMA HAS BEEN DECEIVED!!😂
Why is that funny🤦
10:46 then there shouldn't be one that is fake or real lmao use your brain.
GodLogic, I wish you would stop eating.Save your food for supper time and not debate time.
😊😅😊, so how does the difference reading of the Quran amount to different version of the Quran. godlogic please be serious
Some of hafs text differ on the meaning to the other version
@iringyellow4327 example please
Example back with physical and verifiable evidence
@@thetrinitydilemma9300 watch the previous video of Godlogic
@@thetrinitydilemma9300 Godlogic vs uthman about hafs and warz quran in his previous video
It's mind boggling how a person that believes in a false doctrine like the Trinity has the nerve to try and humiliate other peoples beliefs. First you need to fix your own household before you make video's about other people. Hello POT, meet the kettle…. smh
You say false doctrine yet your Allah affirms our book .Your Allah says if you have doubts go to the people of the book... and yes the people of the book will humiliate you cause Muhammad was a false prophet....he made false claims of him being mentioned by name in our scripture but he's nowhere to be found.😊
@@Dave09-m4c I'm not a Muslim. I have Christian beliefs. And like I said, you have big nerve coming for other peoples religion when you don't even know YOUR OWN bible. smh
@@Dave09-m4c I'm not a Muslim.
I'm not a Muslim.
@Cherry-s8s8l Good for you!
Another falaacy by this loosing dude ...these are dialects .not versions .thrte is only one Quran unchanged .this dude knows it and is lying thru his teeth ..he cannot really disputevthe truth ..islamvrising ..ruclips.net/video/zqzSxdfgc_U/видео.htmlsi=w80QU5pi0ZHfEIqJ
not trustworthy
Let's face it Christians, just as the Quran has it's issues, the Bible also has many issues.
Like what?
@@chrisanderson7258 God's guide for Slave masters: "Successful Slavery for dummies", God, inconsistencies; anger and destruction in the Old Testament, peace and love in the New Testament. Thousands of different, disagreeing denominations all of which came out of the roman catholic church.
bart erman ' there are 50000 biblical manuscripts no two alike and none of the gospels were written by any apostle ' christians respond ' there are more than 1 quran. lol bishop bosworth smith ' the quran is the only scripture preserved in its original language '
There are 5,800 Greek manuscripts 11,000 Syriac manuscripts and 24,000 Latin manuscripts
Matthew and John are Apostles Mark and Luke are not Eyewitnesses but are writing the accounts of the Apostles ie Peter James Bartholomew etc Paul was a Jewish Pharisee who killed Christians who then converted Christianity after seeing the Risen Christ
The New Testament was complete before 70 AD
So what if it's preserved in its original language
That's a stupid argument
Greek was the International language of the time so it makes more sense that it's written in the language most commonly used and in more than one language so it's more widely accessible
99% of the textual variants are spelling mistakes or pronoun use eg our Lord
walked to Jerusalem
Jesus walked to Jerusalem
Bart Erhman also says
No variant changes any belief any doctrine any Theology any meaning any practice
There are 37 different Qurans discovered so far with 93,000 differences between them with Different Words Different Meanings Different Theology Different Practices and Different Doctrines
My source Dr Jay Smith Dr Daniel Brubaker
There are 5,800 Greek manuscripts 11,000 Syriac manuscripts and 24,000 Latin manuscripts
99% of the differences are spelling mistakes word order or pronoun use ie Our Lord walked to Jerusalem
Jesus walked to Jerusalem
Bart Erhman also says that no variant changes any doctrine any belief any Theology any practice any meaning
Bro stop trying to discredit Islam and instead focus on your Christianity. As they Qur’an challenged humanity over 1400 years to find a contradiction or come up with a book like it. You waste too much time trying to discredit God. Islam is simple and not complicated to understand at all. Believe in One God and all his messengers.
Not pedophiles
Next Myth to bust "Islam is a Religion of Peace"
It's not different recitation
Same word written slightly different
Example
Your a jerk
Or
Your a jurk 😂
Same right
Your quran is different
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No it's not
Don't teach me what I recite
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Bible yes clearly
Quran never
Not a single word is different out of the mouth
@@Mick-i1f Have you not seen such differences displayed - they are mostly small, but some are complete flips of meaning. So for instance Mohammed's one prophecy in the Quran about the Romans overcoming the Persians (no time placement though for the verse) is in some qirats indicating victory the other way. The 7C northern Arabic script used for the Quran was primitive, not even all consonants specified then, so it cannot have been regularly recited early on, since they had to guess some vowels and consonants in the 8C/9C and got some wrong in different texts.
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Nah bro I'm afraid your wrong and really haven't studied this subject
I recite the Quran and first hand can tell you there is not a single different in recitation
How they write it might be slight in text but not different on how it's read
Same meaning same recitation
The. QURAN has nothing to do with the previous scriptures, it contradicts the previous prophets.
Muslimah: "Not one word! Not even a single word can be different."
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Oh, darlin! Let's compare Al-Fatihah between the Hafs recitation (~80% of the Qurans out there) and the Warsh recitation (used throughout northern Africa)
Hafs:
مَـٰلِكِ يَوْمِ ٱلدِّينِ ٤
alternatively written as:
مَـالِكِ يَوْمِ ٱلدِّينِ ٤
_Maaliki youm addeen_
"Master/Owner of the day of judgement"
Warsh:
مَلِكِ يَوْمِ ٱلدِّينِ ٤
_Meliki youm addeen_
"King of the day of judgment"
Master/Owner (maalik) vs King (melik)
_These are indeed 2 different words!_ 🧐🤔
Muhammad never met Gabriel. He met a devil and lied and said it was Gabriel cuz he stole Gabriel from the Holy Bible. Jesus is Lord
Mohammed was not a Prophet from God
He was satan's prophet.
@@KingofgraceSARA The Trinity is Pagan too.
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Here are examples of small Greek verse variations with the same meaning but slight differences in wording:
1. Matthew 5:22
• Some manuscripts:
“ὃς ἂν εἴπῃ τῷ ἀδελφῷ αὐτοῦ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·”
(Whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.)
• Other manuscripts:
“ὃς δ᾽ ἂν εἴπῃ Ῥακά, ἔνοχος ἔσται τῷ συνεδρίῳ·”
(Whoever says, ‘Raca,’ shall be liable to the council.)
2. Mark 14:65
• Some manuscripts:
“Καὶ ἤρξαντό τινες ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…”
(And some began to spit on Him…)
• Other manuscripts:
“Καὶ ἤρξαντο ἐμπτύειν αὐτῷ…”
(And they began to spit on Him…)
3. Luke 6:40
• Some manuscripts:
“οὐκ ἔστιν μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·”
(A disciple is not above his teacher.)
• Other manuscripts:
“οὐκ ἔστι μαθητὴς ὑπὲρ τὸν διδάσκαλον·”
(No disciple is above the teacher.)
These small variations occur due to differences in word order, inclusion of articles, or slight phrasing changes, but the overall message remains the same.