You need to read b4 u vomit ur ignorance The claim Allah is deciever ? Quran (3:54) Then they schemed (against the Messiah), and Allah countered their schemes by schemes of His own. Allah is the best of schemers. We have two types of scheming or deceiving evil scheming and good scheming. The scheming evil is the act of a person who try to deceive you and harm you but when you protect yourself from their deceive scheming evil by deceiving them back we call your act to protect yourself as scheming good . They schemed (against the Messiah), an act of scheming evil and ALLAH protect Messiah from their evil scheming or deceive by schemes of His own good scheming. The action of The Israelite against the Messiah called as an act of scheming evil and the reaction of ALLAH to protect Messiah from their deceive was the an act of scheming good. Quran spoke about the Scheming evil: (35:43) priding themselves on earth, and (scheming evil. But evil scheming )overwhelms none but its authors. Do they expect anything but the precedent of the ancients? You will not find any change in God’s practice, and you will not find any substitute to God’s practice
@@amsterdamG2G Where did you see Allah calls himself a liar? He calls himself Al Makkar which does not mean liar. That translates to plotting, planning OR deceiving and when it comes to God, those attributes would always be good. It means God is able to foil the plots of evil people and meet them with their like just like in the Bible where it says God sends delusions to those who deserve it. I know the Bible says some pretty messed up things about God but who really believes those things or that God lies? There are no negative attributes about God.
Islam doesn't MOCK Christianity, it refutes it and fights against it and all forms of paganism. Christianity is not unique in that; it just happens to be the widest practiced or believed in form of modern day paganism now. They don't mock Jesus or any other prophets.
I’m a former PhD student who specialised in evolution but saw its many errors once I got saved by Jesus. The falsehood was right in my face the whole time but before The Holy Spirit I couldn’t see something in front of me. It’s just like how this giy can’t see it’s stupid to trust your soul to a luar when you have sinless Jesus as the alternative
So you studied evolution and don’t believe it exists? I’ve been wanting to look into that topic for some time, could you enlighten me with any information (specifically macro evolution)
Your soul is saved by yourself after God's grace and mercy and not by any man, including Jesus which is not what Jesus taught in his parables or any other prophet taught before or after him.
The muslim doesn't realize it, but by saying Avery is incorrect for saying Allah portrayed falsehood, he is indirectly affirming the crucifixion 😂 this is because either Allah made it appear he was crucified, or he was just crucified. Very simple
Muslims will say anyone who doesn't believe the Quran is someone who Allah misguided because their heart is bad? Mohammad said any verses lost or he forgot was because Allah wanted them gone? The Quran says any verses Muslims can't explain are ones only Allah can explain? Mohammad claimed he didn't get any miracles because Muslims wouldn't believe them even if he did? The says it explains everything, but apparently Allah didn't mean everything? Are you starting to see a very convenient pattern here? You notice how Christians don't say things like this?
So knowingly presenting something that is false is not a lie so long as the person receiving the falsehood has a choice whether to believe it? Man. The hurdles this guy was jumping through to defend Muhammad's blasphemy.
He could tell he sounded like an idiot and probably didn’t sleep well that night. Don’t forget he also had to deal with the realisation that the god he bet his soul on lies and could be lying to him
@ when your god admits to lying and you have to argue he didn’t lie, he’s the anti-Christ. If you believed the Muslim point here, there is no hope for you.
@ you mean Allah, that’s not god, that’s who you kneel to 5times a day. “He made it appear that Jesus was crucified” So according to your book he deceived everyone there to make it look like that happened, but in reality it didn’t. In your book. But I bet you’re gonna try and use the free will excuse and say, YOU believed it, even your god made it look that way. It’s totally not his fault 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How can Islam purport to have this 'test' the test of 'this life', if there's no free will? If it's all already laid out for you that's predetermination and the absence of free will. Muslims answer that God knows the choices you're going to make, but, knowing it isn't making you do it. Thanks for uploading - I liked it and subscribed.
@@gothspawn90We don't have blind faith. We actually study our religion. Here you could see how the muslims shuffles so much just to answer a simple question. Did Allah decieve the Chrisrians or not?
@@gothspawn90We don't have blind faith. We actually study our religion. Here you could see how the muslims shuffles so much just to answer a simple question. Did Allah decieve Christians or not?
@@nunya54 did you even read the whole verse, because if you did you'll know what's it talks about Yes, the Bible does speak about God allowing delusions or strong delusions as a form of judgment. In 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12, it says, "For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness." The passage highlights that those who reject the truth may face consequences for their choices. It serves as a reminder of the importance of seeking God and His truth.
=>COMMENT: In the BIBLE: GOD DECEIVED by sending DECEIVING SPIRIT to DECEIVE PEOPLE....... 1 Kings 22:22 (New International Version) “So now the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you.” >>NOTE: => The Term "GOD" is 'Allaha' in Jesus´s mother tongue, Aramaic and "Allah" in Arabic. =>The following RUclips Video Clips>: (with Headings as follows) Muslims worship the God of Abraham, says Rabbi Tovia Singer Who is Allah - Mind Blowing! The Throne of Allah - Mind blowing The Meaning of Life | Muslim Revert Talk ISLAM
@@lalmia4288Look up the context, and you'll see it means something different then what you are falsely interpreting, but in the Quran, Allah actually blatantly deceived the whole world. I know you Muslims want so desperately to believe the Quran that came 600 years after the Bible, is true and that God is Arab but if you do not open your eyes and accept Christ you will burn in hell and regret your decision to follow this demonic religion.
@@lalmia4288 First off, God did not lie. It was the decieving spirit who lied. God just allowed that spirit to lie to those prophets. Secondly, that's cool and all but the Jews' God has a name: Yahweh and Jesus calls him Father. Is Allah Jesus' Father?
@@lalmia4288 First off, God did not lie. It was the decieving spirit who lied. God just allowed that spirit to lie to those prophets. Secondly, that's cool and all but the Jews' God has a name: Yahweh and Jesus calls him Father. Is Allah Jesus' Father?
@@chrisanderson7258 The Jews did not call God father literally. They used it because he used to take care of them. They did not and still don't have the belief that God is the actual father of anyone and don't even believe in Jesus. God being Father is not even a name we know God himself revealed to them.
@@nunya54 didn't allah make it appear that Jesus was crucified but he was not really crucified? the people who witnessed the crucifixion thought that Jesus was crucified and died. that is all a lie. Jesus was not crucified and Jesus didn't die.
@@wavemaker2077 No one witnessed Jesus being crucified or dying though. That's the point. There is not a single known person that narrates they saw him die. That's why we have no names of eyewitnesses. The Quran says "And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)] 4:157 Where does it say anyone actually saw Jesus crucified or saw Jesus die? The Christians during that time didn't say that. They said he did not die. They said it was someone else crucified instead (Simon of Cyrene). It was common belief in the first century that he didn't die. The earliest congregation of Christians and sects did not believe he did. The Ebionites, the Nazarenes, the Docetae, the Basilidians. So who was tricked? The only persons that said he was, no one knows who they are. They weren't at the event to narrate about it and they're not connected to anyone who was. There's a reason people were inventing stories of others rising from the dead to convince people Jesus did as well. They had no evidence. No one outside the gospels said he did. Not James, not Jude, not Peter, not James. Why do their epistles lack the story? This was supposed to be a monumental, the most monumental moment according to modern Christians. Not only Jesus rode from the dead but others too yet they don't mention it?? Only the anonymous authors that no one can prove were even real and CAN prove never met Jesus and weren't there to see the things they were writing about wrote about it? The same people who were proven to have invented and embellished their writings? Then the story is similar to pagan Gods who were crucified the same exact way, died the same number of days and rose when Christianity was known to mix in a lot of paganism into their religion later to attract pagan converts? Cleary, the story was made up which is why the story changes over time, the authors adding details, fixing problems in the story before, even contradicting each other and why the details go against historical details about crucifixions and against all logic. There is no symbolism found in the early Church of it happening; nothing in the Catacombs. There's historical accounts of Christians doubting and denying it happening even from amongst their most celebrated, most respected, and most quoted early Christian fathers were those who said it didn't happen like the gospels stated. No one had proof and even the Bible wasn't clear on the matter as it shows in parts that he was saved (Hebrews 5:7!). That's why I ask, WHO was tricked or was it some people believed the stories they heard from unreliable people? That's not the same as being tricked. You can't be tricked by something you didn't see and that no one else saw either. You can be tricked by liars making up stories though but that also falls on you for not verifying the information. Now thousands of years later, knowing all this information, how can anyone claim they were tricked? They're now making a choice to believe something that evidence supports didn't happen.
@@rejugeorge2863 No, he actually doesn't. He says he is Al Makkar. That word translates to plotting, planning OR deceiving. It means God is able to foil the plots of evil people and meet their schemes with their like. It is not lying and no attribute of God is negative.
The sons of disobedience shall be forever set against tHE Sons on tHE Promise. Abrahams disobedience begot Ishmael and we are still seeing the affects, muslims have blinded themselves to the Truth by claiming to be wise, they have become fools.
He said: “You can say that you were deceived but you weren’t actually lied to!” 😆😂 HUH???? WHAT WAS THAT MY FRIEND?? MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE!!! Then he goes on to say “If Jesus was crucified and told you that he wasn’t crucified then allah would be lying to you!” Then by that same logic if Jesus was NOT crucified but allah told you that he WAS crucified then allah would be lying to you as well! What da???
@gothspawn90 Muslims don't read the Hebrew Bible even though they claim with authority every prophet is Muslim. The stories of the prophets are largely ignored.
@@gothspawn90 a lot! 😂 let me give you the verses and you go and read them. Isaiah (700-740 years before Jesus came) Isaiah 7:14 Isaiah 9:6-7 Isaiah 53:3-5 Daniel (536-605 years before Jesus came) Daniel 9:25-26 Daniel 7:13-14 David (970-1010 years before Jesus came) Psalm 22:16-18 Moses (1200-1400 years before Jesus came) Genesis 3:15 Deuteronomy 18:18 Acts 3:22-23 Acts 7:37 Micah (686-750 years before Jesus came) Micah 5:2 Jeremiah (586-626 years before Jesus came) Jeremiah 23:5-6 Zechariah (480-520 years before Jesus came) Zechariah 9:9 Zechariah 12:10 Jesus fulfilling the prophesies Luke 24:44-46: "He said to them, This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms." Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day."
At this point I’m convinced they do not believe in the Quran, they just say anything to go against Christians and Jews so more people join the cult of Islam
@@gothspawn90 Either ways, he planned to decieve people for good 600 years, seeing people worshiping Jesus and then sits on his throne to do absolutely nothing... Make it make sense bro😂😂😂
@aderonkekehinde7115 bruh,not everyone at the time was worshipping jesus,idols,the sun e t c,then he sent the prophet when he felt it was appropriate for humanities final message
@@gothspawn90 And who told you that? Christianity was growing in its number, the disciples were doing a great job. So Allah watched them being misled, what are you saying... Defending Momo and Allah is indeed very hard, you have indeed proven it again this day
@@dionburton9016Paul says we are predestined to be in the image of God. That's all. It doesn't go against free will, because God DID create us in his own image. However, for those who have gone astray from acting in accordance with the image of God, Paul says God calls us back. Try again, Abdool.
Why would they have rules and laws and punishments if they had no free will. No free will means they would have no control over their actions which means there would be no reason for rules, guidelines or consequences for choosing to do or not do certain actions.
@@nunya54Predestination is a thorny issue in Islam. There is no consensus among the Islamic sects on this. You can take the Quran and interpret as you please.
Good discussion. For Catholics, we must believe in an Adam and Eve, the first humans through which original sin came. We are allowed to take the Bible literally pr believe in evolution. Humans have souls and the ability to choose between good and evil and God gave humans eternal souls. God created them in his image. God is a triune relation so mam and woman united reflects God's image. United they stand, divided they fall 😊
Deceiving or plotting against evil people which is similar to what the Bible says of God sending delusions to those who deserve it. Is that God Christ?
According to Muslims believe that Jesus wasn't crucified. What I don't understand is that if Jesus wasn't crucified, than why Allah made it appear to be . Muslims don't believe Jesus was crucified and yet Allah made it appear to be. Come Muslims brothers
This is my biggest issue with islam. Theres no way God wouldn't have forseen that deceiving people would lead to a false religion bigger than his own. And why would he wait 600 years before sending a prophet to set things straight. What happens to those who died believing jesus is God because of the resurrection. If the evidence for crucifixion wasn't as strong as it was they would have been better off denying ot outright. Theres no smart reason for deceiving the world for 600 years and no Good God would do that.
Firstly, people are not held accountable for what they don't know however, if someone else believes in a false god and worship them all their life, are they held accountable or not? No one saw Jesus crucified. The people who wrote that he was were all anonymous and were proven to have invented stories and embellished in their writing. They also never met Jesus and had no connection back to him or anyone to have seen him die. The people that did, the people in the first century and the earliest followers of Jesus, the earliest sects of "Christians" did not believe Jesus died. Why if there was evidence? Because there was none. Jesus did not teach he was God. The first followers of Jesus from his own people did not hold those beliefs and that they took from his direct teachings of being a prophet and messiah. This was mainstream Christianity for THREE centuries before Christianity devolved into a triniatrian, polytheistic, pagan hybrid religion. There was always time between prophets and they were sent to correct the mistakes of before. Jesus came how many years after Moses to correct the mistakes of the lost sheep of Israel. You seem to be making an exception for Christianity but why? There was no evidence Jesus was crucified. That's the point. God did not deceive anyone except it says those who were trying to kill Jesus and they had no proof, they only had conjecture that they did which is similar to God in the Bible saying he sends delusions to those who deserve it. Just like there is no evidence of any other god or religion being true but people are still responsible for what they believe and do.
@nunya54 the earliest sect of Christians became Christians because of the resurrection and they died proclaiming what they saw. You're just inventing your own history. There's more evidence for the crucifixion than for Mohammed's existence. Jesus did claim to be God in the bible. And most importantly you didn't address the issue. Why did Allah have to deceive people into believing Jesus died and for 600 years allowed the religion birthed from that belief spread. Allah basically invented Christianity from that POV. So it's his fault if I refuse to believe otherwise. He should have known better than to mislead innocent people
@@nunya54 Okay so can you provide at least 4 eyewitness sources of Allah saving Jesus then? I've asked over 40 Muslims and not one has provided anything. They can say those sources got 'corrupted' but the gnostic gospels conflict with this idea greatly, and on top of that it doesn't change the fact that Allah literally had a whole HALF MILLENIUM to tell and clarify to people like Paul (who literally spent his life getting imprisoned for preaching Christ Crucified) historians like Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny the Younger, who were recording the crucifixion, that it never happened. Instead, he decided to kick his feet back and stay mute doing absolutely nothing, knowing this narrative would surpass his own religion. You mean to tell me allah had the power to intervene at the crucifixion, but after that, he decided not to intervene to clarify things like this during the half millennium? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? You guys don't even know who Jesus was supposedly swapped out with..barrabus, Simon of Cyrene, or Judas who unlived himself minutes before Jesus was even taken for trial...is this a joke? How is this even supposed to be sufficient for us to believe? I don't think you've even heard of the inscription found in an Israeli Jail which says "Jesus Christ is God" dated back to 230AD. So they already believed he was God centuries before your claim. You guys also love to say everyone fled from the scene. So how did they even know allah saved him if none of them were there??? And what happened to his mother who was literally there watching him die? did Allah deceive her too? Also, your point about them 'never meeting' Jesus doesn't even help your case because Muhummad did not meet him either so by your standard he's even less credible...
God bless you brother for the patients you have with the foolish. The guy truthfully states what a lie is and then denies that it's what a lie is. I pray to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for the souls of the fools who deny him.
@nunya54 not taking about predetermination, that's fate. We're talking about will, like free will. Don't you believe if you are of allah you'll be guided by him?
@@nunya54 The bible does affirm that God can send delusions or allow people to be misled when they reject the truth and persist in unrighteousness. A key verse often cited in this context is 2 Thessalonians 2:11: "And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie." Understanding the Passage: Context: This verse occurs in a passage discussing the end times and the coming of the "lawless one" (commonly understood as the Antichrist). Those who follow the lawless one do so because they have rejected the love of the truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10). As a result, God permits them to believe in the deception they have chosen. Note that you (@nunya54) belong in this category. You follow the lawless one and you rejected the truth. You have the strong delusion with you now. Role of God vs. Satan: God is sovereign and allows delusions as a form of judgment on those who willfully turn away from Him. However, Satan is often the direct agent of deception, as seen in verses like John 8:44, where Jesus calls him "the father of lies." In this sense, God does not deceive but permits Satan's deception to achieve His righteous judgment. Biblical Parallels: Romans 1:24-28 describes God giving people over to their sinful desires because they chose to worship created things rather than the Creator. 1 Kings 22:22-23 recounts God allowing a lying spirit to deceive King Ahab through his prophets as part of His judgment. Was it Satan or God? It is essential to differentiate between God's ultimate sovereignty and Satan's role as the deceiver: Satan is the one who deceives, as seen in Genesis 3:13 and Revelation 12:9. God allows or ordains such deception as a form of judgment on those who reject Him. This reflects their own choice to reject truth and follow lies.
He is sitting in the middle of the Muslim dilemma. He can't acknowledge truth because it would make Islam false. Everyone sees that he can't square that circle
Satan is a deceiver. Allah being a deceiver is a clue to who Allah really is. Satan would want you to believe that Jesus didn’t die, was buried, and was resurrected the third day.
@@GhidorahFan64 Why would Satan want you to not believe Jesus died? For most people, if someone dies, you definitely believe they're not God. So why would Satan want you to believe Jesus died? That would mean most people not believing he was God.
Muslims really don't seem to understand, that pointing to a Quran verse in order to refute another Quran verse? Is what's commonly known as, a contradiction?
Allah’s deception is the devils deception. Context context context. Then contradictions to his context to then manipulate context as the Quran promotes or aka enemy. Biblically so accurate it’s crazy.
Lah is the male God and Akbar is the female 😂pedofhile Qutam dont liked the female God and begon worshipping male God lah 😂😂 then put Al before the saitaniic moongod
@@abz7800 Il is god in arabic. It should be il-lah. But he is only a former nabatean king along with queen al-lat and al-uzza and al-manat as daughters. Not three daughters as mentionned in surat 53. Same surat where ahmad is bewitched and worshipped daughters of the-lah. Al-tabbari vol.6,111 ahmad says he lied. Qur'an 69,40 indeed the qur'an is the word of a noble messenger...
The moment he puts in the EVOLUTION of Man that ended the debate for me. ISLAM and EVOLUTION OF MAN are exactly the same just different Authors/investors. Believing in ISLAM and EVOLUTION is just believing in a nice and perfectly narrated story without traceable evidence.
There is predestination in Islam,no free will,Allah affirms it. Sahih al-Bukhari 6614 Narrated Abu Huraira: "The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses argued with each other. Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are our father who disappointed us and turned us out of Paradise.' Then Adam said to him, 'O Moses! Allah favored you with His talk (talked to you directly) and He wrote (the Torah) for you with His Own Hand. Do you blame me for action which Allah had written in my fate forty years before my creation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adam confuted Moses," the Prophet (ﷺ) added, repeating the Statement three times."
@@nunya54Allah made those for hell and heaven, you where destined for hell or heaven. You have no choice 😂, Mohammad said at the funeral of a child that some where made for heaven and hell.
Dude it's simple. Imagine living in first century Jerusalem and witnessing the crucifixion of Jesus with your own eyes. Crucifixion being a regular occurrence in Jerusalem at that time, would it be a matter of choice to believe or doubt Jesus' crucifixion when you witnessed it with your own eyes? Would that be something that only a hard hearted person would wrongly choose to conclude because he intended to disobey or disbelieve Allah's truth? If you were there to witness the event, wouldn't it be normal to believe that Jesus was crucified and delusional to believe that he wasn't?
Ppl have been crucified in modern times too Anyway the point in the quran is....mankind tried to destroy the gift of guidence he gave them....they belived they achived their objective....the objective of raisin this gift to the sky and mocking the God jesus came to re-enforce.....and comiting the ultimate human sacrifice...the ultimate blesphamy.....they failed.....was jesus seen the next day walking around fine ? Mankind rejected him and belivied they destroyed him....they rejected the chance God gave them in disgusting fashion....forgive them father they know not wat they do....rember that....in otherwords like low iq savages they dont understand what ther doing ....especialy by doing human sacrifices to mock God....the spilling and drinking of the inocent pure blood....and their excuse the blood gives them life......their are still entites that try to feed off the inocent and pure...as its the ultimate blesphamy and mocking of God.....but all that happened was mankind sealed their fate....the fate that God tried to save them from by placing the perfect example to follow amongst them whose guidence would of saved them.....but all they did was make things worse and completly sealed the coming of armegedon....the false belief that comiting the human sacrifice and that of the most pure...and then drinking his blood and eating his flesh to mock futher did something to save mankind...no it just sealed their fate....look around you...you think your saved....you think breaking every commemandmant saves you....you think having your daughters wives and siters being on only fans open wide to the world while riding of the countries that help and condone this saves you....jesus is fine....you think you spilled his blood.....but all that was spilled are the seeds of the events leading to armagedon......but those whose rejocies in that sacrifical moment and bow to it..making statues of it mocking God futher by bowing to their ultimate human sacrifices in houses they asign to God does nothing but set up more to go to hell.....mankind sealed its own fate....made its own choices....and they chose to break every commandment and comit evry sin and much much more....
@@Isacc.. Your story doesn't add up; not historically, not theologically, and not even logically. History confirms Jesus' crucifixion. Theologically, it makes no sense for God to leave somebody on the cross to be mistaken for Jesus when raising him up to heaven out of their hands would have been so much more impactful and would have validated the Islamic version of Jesus and made his ministry successful. The way the events transpired lead to a "false" religion that has dominated the world for 1700 years and made Jesus' ministry the biggest waste of time failure imaginable. Imagine what would have happened if Jesus was lifted up alive and unharmed out of the hands of his would be executioners. Also if God replaced Jesus with a lookalike wouldn't he be unjust to have a substitute suffer the punishment for a crime he didn't commit and wasn't accused of? For what purpose? Logically, the Islamic narrative makes no sense. For example, why would the substitute be able to say things that only the real Jesus would say to the people around him and to John and his mother Mary? Why would the substitute not cry out the he's not Jesus? I think that would make it through some so called gospel very early. And if this substitute did deny being Jesus, then how do you explain Christianity? Why and how would people in the first century invent a religion centered around the shameful death of God's prophet? Why would such a thing even cross anybody's mind? Unless of course Jesus was crucified, died and rose up to life again and taught his disciples directly and then by the Holy Spirit, that his death was planned and foretold, and that his purpose was to die for the world so that he might satisfy the justice of God so that we can be accepted back into God's presence by grace through faith in what God did through His Son?
@@realnazarene5379 History confirms some people believed Jesus was crucified while some people believed he was not including the people during that time and earliest followers of Jesus. What "history" can't do is prove Jesus was crucified and that's the problem. Theologically, everything God does make sense to him. You may not understand it but God does and he has complete knowledge and wisdom. He created us to test us. The important point is the people did NOT believe Jesus was crucified. It was common belief in the first century that Jesus did not die. And why does God say he made it appear it was Jesus and to who? He then says they had no proof it was Jesus and it was conjecture. Again, who? The Ebionites, the Nazarenes, Christians in the first century didn't believe Jesus died but who does? Only people that came later with no evidence he did. The Islamic version of Jesus IS the early "Christian" version of Jesus. They held the same beliefs about Jesus that Muslims do. Jesus' ministry was successful. He did what Allah sent him to do. Allah says that it is not upon the prophets that people follow their way of not. They only have to convey the message. Some prophets had no one accept their message at all yet in still, they were successful. Jesus' followers as well, the first Jewish Christians practiced upon Jesus' way correctly for about three centuries after him before mainstream "Christianity" changed and became a paganized deviation. Christianity was not "invented" in the first century like you said. The first "Christians" were Torah-practicing Jews, like Jesus. Christianity actually came later and was a deviation of that religion mixed with paganism that became what Christianity is today (not the religion of Jesus barely at all). God did not plan it the way you THINK it should have God; he has full and complete knowledge. Perhaps because Christianity is the modern day paganism and grew, you are making it more special than it is when it is just like any other falsehood or religion not based on authentic revelation. During the time of Noah, most of the people in the world were upon a religion that was false. Their disbelief dominated the world at that time too. Does that mean Noah was a failure? Does that mean God had a bad plan that he let most people in the world fall into polytheism? The Islamic narrative makes complete sense and most importantly, it's authentic. You are basing what you believe and what you're saying on inauthentic narrations. There is no true narration that John or Mary saw Jesus die. Even the Bible and Christian history can't confirm that to be true and show contradictory details about the event. No one outside the anonymous writers of the gospels even wrote about it. The Basilidians said it was Simon of Cyrene instead. The Ebionites and Nazarenes didn't believe it. There was no symbolism of it found in the early Church; nothing in the catacombs, histories that should have included it during and soon after that time don't. When we look at all of the evidence, we don't actually find any to support those stories being true; stories, mind you, written by people proven to be dishonest! Also be mindful we do not have all the gospels that existed. Some were not chosen, some were destroyed and all those we have left are what were chosen to the exclusion of other gospels and ideas that said differently.
@@nunya54 What are you talking about? There's absolutely zero doubt that Jesus was crucified and his crucifixion was witnessed by many of his disciples and his mother. What is your evidence that nobody witnessed the crucifixion? What is your evidence that Jesus wasn't crucified? And please don't say the Quran or your so called scholars. Your scholars have nothing but baseless conjecture. The Quran is what's being scrutinized here, not the well established crucifixion of Jesus. The Quran came 600 years after the events, therefore the default position is to doubt that it has anything at all to say on the matter, let alone be an authority. And you can't say that if you prove that the Quran is divine then you must accept all its claims. You can't prove the Quran is divine because it's beyond stupid, not to mention wrong on so many levels, and the so called prophet who claimed to have received the Quran lacked the moral character to be accepted as a prophet by any rational human being. Not to mention the Quran doesn't even know how to try to line up with the long chain of prophets. It doesn't know how revelation works or how prophets receive revelation. Islam is a last minute book report done by a lazy student who put it together the last minute after watching a movie; actually even worse, after asking his no good roommate about the movie he watched about the book years ago. The burden of proof is on you.
@Growsomeskin You say you do not believe in evolution.So if you believe that you were created by intelligent selection then you must be believing that you are superior than the ones who were created by evolution.Is that so?
we have the free will to believe in allahs deception.. and if we fall for it its our fault..not allahs lol how are these guys so convinced of their stupidity.. May our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ remove these demonic blindfolds that are upon our muslim brothers and sisters 🙏🏽
We weren't there to be deceived and no one saw Jesus crucified. So whose fault is it for believing in something they never saw and no one can prove and people can definitely disprove?
@ No one saw Jesus crucified? Your Quran admits that it was made to appear to people that he was crucified. So once again, if he really was’nt crucified, then its your deceptive Allahs fault that the people of that time believed he was, and that tradition and belief has been passed on and still exists today to over 2 billion Christians. 👏🏽
@ and just to add to the above, not only Christians but Jews and other non-christians believe the crucifixion of Jesus occured. Its just your prophet that disagrees. So the proof is overwhelmingly on the side of the crucifixion.. so based on that, i would love to know how “people can definitely disprove” the crucifixion??
@@Daniel-c9c7p Did you actually read what the Quran says? It says "And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, the Messenger of God," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not." 4:157. Two problems with your premise. One is that you're saying this deception tricked Christians but there's no proof Christians or people who followed and believed in Jesus witnessed Jesus being crucified. Hebrews 5:7 shows the disciples seeing Jesus saved. It was common belief in the first century that Jesus did not die. So who was tricked? The earliest congregation and sects of Christians didn't believe Jesus died. The Docetae didn't believe if. The Ebionites didn't believe it. The Nazarenes, the Basilidians. There's proof in the letters of Ignatius that Christians in the first century did not believe he died. There's proof in the language of the mystics of Christians having doubt. There was no symbolism of it in the early Church. So who was tricked? There are no known witnesses to have said they saw Jesus die! The verse says they were full of doubt and they were following conjecture meaning they did not know they killed Jesus. There are no writings about it outside the anonymous ones in the gospels. Where is the proof anyone believing in Jesus and following him was tricked and believed he died that saw it? There are none. How can someone be tricked by something they did not see? The verse is speaking about those trying to kill Jesus. They did not believe in or follow Jesus. Why would them believing Jesus died matter? They weren't Christian. It doesn't fit in with this strange claim you're making that God is responsible for CHRISTIANS believing Jesus died. They weren't Christians and they did not know they killed Jesus. They were disbelievers trying to kill Jesus! They would deserve to be tricked just like in the Bible when it says God sends a delusion to those who deserve it. So how were Christians tricked or did some Christians, later on, who never saw Jesus crucified and had no proof he was, follow the anonymous writings of some men telling him he was not even knowing if those men were from the same people trying to kill Jesus? Literally no one knows who wrote he did. They were not tricked by God, they were tricked by those men. Christians today still believing Jesus died, literally have no evidence he did die AND they have evidence he did not die as revealed over 1400 years ago. So what is their excuse?
The Muslim claims evolution is real, which contradicts his faith in Islam because Islam teaches that Allah created everything while evolution teaches that everything and everyone came from absolutely no one/nothing !!!😢
A guy in a cave runs screaming from the cave saying that an spirit appeared to him , then some time later he says it was a angel . That’s the biggest lie
Wassup logic Dahbloc says what's good your debate skills on point I'm new to Jesus as far as fellowship today I know who is in control of all things I feel sharpened listening to you believe me you sit them back on the fence I pray that at least one steps off on the rite side God will have won one back keep pumpin dat logic. Dahbloc
God is not a God of confusion, why would God try to confuse us by letting us think Jesus was crucified if he wasn't, why would he want us to believe a lie, and that it wasn't Jesus who died on the cross. Or is the Bible lying, when it saids God is not a God of confusion. If it weren't because I know Jesus died on the cross for us, I would be so confused right now, thank you Jesus for the truth . 😊
According to Coran, allah is the greatest deceiver ... According to bible he's the father of lies. Satan dressed up like an angel of light and spoke to Mohammed... Paul warned us about such deceivers coming down with "another gospel"
Why're you talking like you were there?,let's remove the fact that the new Testament has contradictions If the followers of jesus believed that he died,what would've changed? God simply saved his prophet,the bad guys thought they killed him,he had already spread his message and he had his companions,it'll take a miracle to convince y'all that no one can be ressurected,except through God by a prophet
@@gothspawn90 you know why I sound like I was there because Jesus reveals his true word, we can count on his word, and it's like we were there, you should try it😊
@@gothspawn90If that's the case why then would Jesus' own disciples claim that Jesus rose from the dead? If they knew that God took Jesus before his crucifixion why then would they proclaim that Jesus was dead and that he rose again? What? Did they forgot that the Jesus that died on the cross wasn't really Jesus? You asked what will change if Jesus' disciples believed him to be dead? It's simple: since Jesus is alive that means he has conquered death and it proves what he says about himself: that he is God. The answer is Christianity. That's how Christianity is born: the death and resurrection of Christ.
AVERY IS THE BEST EXAMPLE, HE IS MISGUIDED, HE DOESN'T WANT TO BELIEVE OR LISTEN, SO LET HIM MISGUIDED. THANK YOU ALMIGHTY GOD FOR PUNISHING ALL NONBELIEVERS ON JUDGEMENT DAY. AMEN.
What's sad is Allah himself made something appear that wasn't true , it's a lie can't get around it and Muslims defend a lie Remember Allah says it's okay to lie so I understand they have to believe a lie for the sake of Allah
@gothspawn90 the issue is and always will be is that Allah made something appear that didn't happen that's called deception, Allah made it appear Jesus Christ died but it wasn't Jesus Christ, that's called FALSEHOOD DECEPTION DECEIVING no way around it
That means he is able to foil the plots of evil people and meet them with their like and is such an odd thing for Christians to be critical of since he did so to save Jesus. Weird.
@@rambo_4_christ7 It's what God says about himself. Are you saying about God based on the Bible, Quran and you, that God is untrustworthy? 2 Thessalonians 2:11says for this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. In the Bible, during the days of Jesus’ life on earth, when he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission and after being heard, which means God accepted his prayer and saved him but then God didn't save him. Is that an example you mean of God being untrustworthy? The way it's used in the Quran does not indicate that since the word Al Makkar translates to plotting and planning and it is God doing so against evil people trying to kill his prophets and the believers. What about that makes God untrustworthy to you? You think a trustworthy God doesn't do actions to stop evil people from doing evil things? Trustworthy would be him, like Christians say, killing his own son or himself if he's God? Please explain. This is an interesting concept you have that God can't be trusted. Sounds like you don't believe in God.
Jesus’s disciples did not believe he was crucified…there were true followers of Jesus peace be upon him , all the way to the time of Prophet Mohammed. It’s not as if it was made to appear to people and everyone believed he was crucified..thats your assumption..
It took a 3rd time Avery but I think the Muslim skipped to Christians believing Jesus was crucified and saying you believed a lie. He can't or won't argue from a pure Muslim perspective.
"You can say you were deceived, but that doesn't mean you were lied to."
WHAT?????
Thats how they select meaning and words just to stay in islam 😂
😂 😂
As soon as I heard this, I immediately thought of the Russell Westbrook meme 😂😂😂
Deceit, which does not deceive, is no deceit
thats their logic period --
Allah is the best of decievers!!
al'Lah is even lying about being the best liar😂
You need to read b4 u vomit ur ignorance
The claim Allah is deciever ?
Quran (3:54) Then they schemed (against the Messiah), and Allah countered their schemes by schemes of His own. Allah is the best of schemers.
We have two types of scheming or deceiving evil scheming and good scheming. The scheming evil is the act of a person who try to deceive you and harm you but when you protect yourself from their deceive scheming evil by deceiving them back we call your act to protect yourself as scheming good . They schemed (against the Messiah), an act of scheming evil and ALLAH protect Messiah from their evil scheming or deceive by schemes of His own good scheming. The action of The Israelite against the Messiah called as an act of scheming evil and the reaction of ALLAH to protect Messiah from their deceive was the an act of scheming good.
Quran spoke about the Scheming evil:
(35:43) priding themselves on earth, and (scheming evil. But evil scheming )overwhelms none but its authors. Do they expect anything but the precedent of the ancients? You will not find any change in God’s practice, and you will not find any substitute to God’s practice
@@amsterdamG2G Where did you see Allah calls himself a liar? He calls himself Al Makkar which does not mean liar. That translates to plotting, planning OR deceiving and when it comes to God, those attributes would always be good. It means God is able to foil the plots of evil people and meet them with their like just like in the Bible where it says God sends delusions to those who deserve it.
I know the Bible says some pretty messed up things about God but who really believes those things or that God lies? There are no negative attributes about God.
Like the devil
Hold' up! Satan is the prince of lies, does it all make sense now?
1:19 abdool talking about mocking, while Islam’s only reason to exist is mocking Christianity and who Jesus truly was.
Exactly…,, Muslims are hypocrites
Islam doesn't MOCK Christianity, it refutes it and fights against it and all forms of paganism. Christianity is not unique in that; it just happens to be the widest practiced or believed in form of modern day paganism now. They don't mock Jesus or any other prophets.
That’s what I’m saying 😂😂😂😂
They wish and pray so muhammed was even 1% like Jesus so badly.
@ Eggsheartly 🤗🌝
I’m a former PhD student who specialised in evolution but saw its many errors once I got saved by Jesus. The falsehood was right in my face the whole time but before The Holy Spirit I couldn’t see something in front of me. It’s just like how this giy can’t see it’s stupid to trust your soul to a luar when you have sinless Jesus as the alternative
So you studied evolution and don’t believe it exists? I’ve been wanting to look into that topic for some time, could you enlighten me with any information (specifically macro evolution)
The scientific community is beginning to debunk it... too many errors
Your soul is saved by yourself after God's grace and mercy and not by any man, including Jesus which is not what Jesus taught in his parables or any other prophet taught before or after him.
And you think your smarter the God @GaretAlan50
@@nunya54you should read about Jesus more and not to listen blindly
The muslim doesn't realize it, but by saying Avery is incorrect for saying Allah portrayed falsehood, he is indirectly affirming the crucifixion 😂 this is because either Allah made it appear he was crucified, or he was just crucified. Very simple
How dare you use common sense here. Away with your sorcery.
@@tibouzankor1997lol
Either way allah lied...
@@pabtorre Bruh,he didn't,he saved jesus from being killed,nothing more nothing less
@@gothspawn90If he is a deceiver, that means he is a liar.
Praise Jesus Christ! King of Kings! Lord of Lords! Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The beginning and the end. Amen.
The muslim really said “It’s only a lie if you believe it”
Right the mental gymnastics is real with this one
Bro that's an olympic gold medalist in mental gymnastics
THE LEVEL IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE !. Cope and delusion champion of the World.
Muslims will say anyone who doesn't believe the Quran is someone who Allah misguided because their heart is bad? Mohammad said any verses lost or he forgot was because Allah wanted them gone? The Quran says any verses Muslims can't explain are ones only Allah can explain? Mohammad claimed he didn't get any miracles because Muslims wouldn't believe them even if he did? The says it explains everything, but apparently Allah didn't mean everything? Are you starting to see a very convenient pattern here?
You notice how Christians don't say things like this?
So knowingly presenting something that is false is not a lie so long as the person receiving the falsehood has a choice whether to believe it?
Man. The hurdles this guy was jumping through to defend Muhammad's blasphemy.
How's it a lie?
He could tell he sounded like an idiot and probably didn’t sleep well that night. Don’t forget he also had to deal with the realisation that the god he bet his soul on lies and could be lying to him
as long as it came from their Muslim God Baal(Allah) , Truth is truth and lie is truth also. thats braindead zombie followers😂
@@gothspawn90the fact that you still don’t see it as a lie shows how slow you are
@@Rballerz He sees it. He's just not going to acknowledge it.
He doesn't understand the definition of truth and lying.
This is absolutely hysterical!🤣🤣🤣🤣
They have to tie themselves up in knots to pretend they don’t worship the anti-Christ
They don't.
@ when your god admits to lying and you have to argue he didn’t lie, he’s the anti-Christ. If you believed the Muslim point here, there is no hope for you.
@@mariopotuznik8002 Where does God admit he lied?
@ you mean Allah, that’s not god, that’s who you kneel to 5times a day. “He made it appear that Jesus was crucified” So according to your book he deceived everyone there to make it look like that happened, but in reality it didn’t. In your book. But I bet you’re gonna try and use the free will excuse and say, YOU believed it, even your god made it look that way. It’s totally not his fault 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How can Islam purport to have this 'test' the test of 'this life', if there's no free will? If it's all already laid out for you that's predetermination and the absence of free will. Muslims answer that God knows the choices you're going to make, but, knowing it isn't making you do it. Thanks for uploading - I liked it and subscribed.
he knows he’s wrong his heart is just hardened, Avery planted seeds tho❤️
Nothing like blind Faith right Muslims
See who's talking 😂
You know Quran 5:32 was stolen from Talmud which predates Quran
@@gothspawn90We don't have blind faith. We actually study our religion. Here you could see how the muslims shuffles so much just to answer a simple question. Did Allah decieve the Chrisrians or not?
@@gothspawn90We don't have blind faith. We actually study our religion. Here you could see how the muslims shuffles so much just to answer a simple question. Did Allah decieve Christians or not?
@@gothspawn90 a 15 year old kid is smarter than whoever wrote quran
My God would never misguide us. That's how perfect and beautiful His nature is.
Hallelujah🔥🩸💧
Which God is that? In the Bible it says God will send delusions to those who deserve it.
Amen! He is Truth ❤
@@nunya54 did you even read the whole verse, because if you did you'll know what's it talks about
Yes, the Bible does speak about God allowing delusions or strong delusions as a form of judgment. In 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12, it says, "For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness." The passage highlights that those who reject the truth may face consequences for their choices. It serves as a reminder of the importance of seeking God and His truth.
@@solomonjaiyeola6847 Exactly; same as God being Al Makkar. It's a praiseworthy deception and deserving; not unjust.
If they have free will, why then, are they not allowed to leave Islam and if they do it is punishable with your life?
If you don't have free will, how can you make a choice to leave Islam or not?
@@nunya54exactly, so every one who as free will is an ex Muslim.
The mental gymnastics from these guys man. Always an answer for everything. Allah this allah that 😮💨...
Before this video I was a Christian after this video I am a Christian ❤from South Africa, Jesus christ is Lord
You worship a Jew?
False gods make u dumb... sin makes you dumb... the Truth is so simple people can't even see it... Lord Jesus have mercy
3:54 allah is the best deceiver of all...
=>COMMENT: In the BIBLE: GOD DECEIVED by sending DECEIVING SPIRIT to DECEIVE PEOPLE.......
1 Kings 22:22 (New International Version)
“So now the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you.”
>>NOTE: => The Term "GOD" is 'Allaha' in Jesus´s mother tongue, Aramaic and "Allah" in Arabic.
=>The following RUclips Video Clips>: (with Headings as follows)
Muslims worship the God of Abraham, says Rabbi Tovia Singer
Who is Allah - Mind Blowing!
The Throne of Allah - Mind blowing
The Meaning of Life | Muslim Revert Talk ISLAM
@@lalmia4288Look up the context, and you'll see it means something different then what you are falsely interpreting, but in the Quran, Allah actually blatantly deceived the whole world.
I know you Muslims want so desperately to believe the Quran that came 600 years after the Bible, is true and that God is Arab but if you do not open your eyes and accept Christ you will burn in hell and regret your decision to follow this demonic religion.
@@lalmia4288 First off, God did not lie. It was the decieving spirit who lied. God just allowed that spirit to lie to those prophets. Secondly, that's cool and all but the Jews' God has a name: Yahweh and Jesus calls him Father. Is Allah Jesus' Father?
@@lalmia4288 First off, God did not lie. It was the decieving spirit who lied. God just allowed that spirit to lie to those prophets. Secondly, that's cool and all but the Jews' God has a name: Yahweh and Jesus calls him Father. Is Allah Jesus' Father?
@@chrisanderson7258 The Jews did not call God father literally. They used it because he used to take care of them. They did not and still don't have the belief that God is the actual father of anyone and don't even believe in Jesus. God being Father is not even a name we know God himself revealed to them.
He lied for 600 years and deceived for over 2000 years
Where did God lie? Where is an authentic source of what God said that can be proven to be a lie?
@@nunya54 didn't allah make it appear that Jesus was crucified but he was not really crucified? the people who witnessed the crucifixion thought that Jesus was crucified and died. that is all a lie. Jesus was not crucified and Jesus didn't die.
@@wavemaker2077 No one witnessed Jesus being crucified or dying though. That's the point. There is not a single known person that narrates they saw him die. That's why we have no names of eyewitnesses. The Quran says "And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)] 4:157
Where does it say anyone actually saw Jesus crucified or saw Jesus die? The Christians during that time didn't say that. They said he did not die. They said it was someone else crucified instead (Simon of Cyrene). It was common belief in the first century that he didn't die. The earliest congregation of Christians and sects did not believe he did. The Ebionites, the Nazarenes, the Docetae, the Basilidians. So who was tricked?
The only persons that said he was, no one knows who they are. They weren't at the event to narrate about it and they're not connected to anyone who was. There's a reason people were inventing stories of others rising from the dead to convince people Jesus did as well. They had no evidence. No one outside the gospels said he did. Not James, not Jude, not Peter, not James. Why do their epistles lack the story? This was supposed to be a monumental, the most monumental moment according to modern Christians. Not only Jesus rode from the dead but others too yet they don't mention it??
Only the anonymous authors that no one can prove were even real and CAN prove never met Jesus and weren't there to see the things they were writing about wrote about it? The same people who were proven to have invented and embellished their writings? Then the story is similar to pagan Gods who were crucified the same exact way, died the same number of days and rose when Christianity was known to mix in a lot of paganism into their religion later to attract pagan converts? Cleary, the story was made up which is why the story changes over time, the authors adding details, fixing problems in the story before, even contradicting each other and why the details go against historical details about crucifixions and against all logic.
There is no symbolism found in the early Church of it happening; nothing in the Catacombs. There's historical accounts of Christians doubting and denying it happening even from amongst their most celebrated, most respected, and most quoted early Christian fathers were those who said it didn't happen like the gospels stated. No one had proof and even the Bible wasn't clear on the matter as it shows in parts that he was saved (Hebrews 5:7!).
That's why I ask, WHO was tricked or was it some people believed the stories they heard from unreliable people? That's not the same as being tricked. You can't be tricked by something you didn't see and that no one else saw either. You can be tricked by liars making up stories though but that also falls on you for not verifying the information. Now thousands of years later, knowing all this information, how can anyone claim they were tricked? They're now making a choice to believe something that evidence supports didn't happen.
@@nunya54He identifies himself as the ‘best of deceivers’. Was he lying then?
@@rejugeorge2863 No, he actually doesn't. He says he is Al Makkar. That word translates to plotting, planning OR deceiving. It means God is able to foil the plots of evil people and meet their schemes with their like. It is not lying and no attribute of God is negative.
Avery, you are very patient!
That’s what walking by Christ is😊
Avery be cookin ‘em again. Praise God for you Avery. Please Lord, continue to sustain Avery every step of the way 🙏 Amen
AMEN
Abdul is in a mental prison. It's a burden to defend a false doctrine
Oh now they believe in free will😂
What a smug liar, that caller.
14:52 he said that “God made it appear that Jesus was crucified; that is the truth!” 😂
The truth is that he deceived people, but u can’t say he lied because he told u that he lied to deceive the people 🤪
I’m going to take this candy from your store, you can’t say I’m stealing it because I told u I’m taking it 😂
He just said Allah is a deceiver
@@gehanoates885He identifies himself as the ‘best of deceivers’!
Blessed Christmas Avery and everyone who watches this channel.
The sons of disobedience shall be forever set against tHE Sons on tHE Promise. Abrahams disobedience begot Ishmael and we are still seeing the affects, muslims have blinded themselves to the Truth by claiming to be wise, they have become fools.
❤
He said: “You can say that you were deceived but you weren’t actually lied to!” 😆😂 HUH???? WHAT WAS THAT MY FRIEND?? MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE!!!
Then he goes on to say “If Jesus was crucified and told you that he wasn’t crucified then allah would be lying to you!” Then by that same logic if Jesus was NOT crucified but allah told you that he WAS crucified then allah would be lying to you as well!
What da???
Where did God say he'll be crucified in the bible
@ In genesis, psalms, Daniel, Isaiah
@@Impala26 I know bro.
@gothspawn90 Muslims don't read the Hebrew Bible even though they claim with authority every prophet is Muslim. The stories of the prophets are largely ignored.
@@gothspawn90 a lot! 😂 let me give you the verses and you go and read them.
Isaiah (700-740 years before Jesus came)
Isaiah 7:14
Isaiah 9:6-7
Isaiah 53:3-5
Daniel (536-605 years before Jesus came)
Daniel 9:25-26
Daniel 7:13-14
David (970-1010 years before Jesus came)
Psalm 22:16-18
Moses (1200-1400 years before Jesus came)
Genesis 3:15
Deuteronomy 18:18
Acts 3:22-23
Acts 7:37
Micah (686-750 years before Jesus came)
Micah 5:2
Jeremiah (586-626 years before Jesus came)
Jeremiah 23:5-6
Zechariah (480-520 years before Jesus came)
Zechariah 9:9
Zechariah 12:10
Jesus fulfilling the prophesies
Luke 24:44-46: "He said to them, This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms." Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day."
Avery has said this a million times: this is beyond human capacity. This is pure spiritual, demonic blindness.
That would apply to him; not Islam.
Genuinely couldn't tell if that was some sort of speech impediment or a weird accent.
And nothing happens except by the Will of Allah Free Will lol
At this point I’m convinced they do not believe in the Quran, they just say anything to go against Christians and Jews so more people join the cult of Islam
Please make it make sense.
@@withoutceasing9151 Sense is haram
The stuttering and stammering of the Muslims is PRICELESS!
4:14 EXACTLY!!! Allah deceives 😂
His name means the deciever!
The Quran refers to Allah as the Great Deceiver.......Satan
Well Allah is best of deceivers qur'an 3:54
If you did your research you'd know the Arabic word means planner, don't be a sheep
@@gothspawn90 Either ways, he planned to decieve people for good 600 years, seeing people worshiping Jesus and then sits on his throne to do absolutely nothing... Make it make sense bro😂😂😂
@aderonkekehinde7115 bruh,not everyone at the time was worshipping jesus,idols,the sun e t c,then he sent the prophet when he felt it was appropriate for humanities final message
@@gothspawn90 And who told you that? Christianity was growing in its number, the disciples were doing a great job. So Allah watched them being misled, what are you saying... Defending Momo and Allah is indeed very hard, you have indeed proven it again this day
@@gothspawn90 I'm sorry to break this to you, your God is a wicked god, waited for 600 years for thousands of Christ followers to be misled
The moment this Muslim says they have free will I chuckled.
In Acts 4: 27- 28 is that free will when Pontius Pilate was predestined to do what he did. He had no choice in that. How do you explain that?
@@dionburton9016Paul says we are predestined to be in the image of God.
That's all.
It doesn't go against free will, because God DID create us in his own image.
However, for those who have gone astray from acting in accordance with the image of God, Paul says God calls us back.
Try again, Abdool.
Why would they have rules and laws and punishments if they had no free will. No free will means they would have no control over their actions which means there would be no reason for rules, guidelines or consequences for choosing to do or not do certain actions.
@@nunya54Predestination is a thorny issue in Islam. There is no consensus among the Islamic sects on this. You can take the Quran and interpret as you please.
@@nunya54 how do you explain Acts 4: 27-28
Good discussion. For Catholics, we must believe in an Adam and Eve, the first humans through which original sin came. We are allowed to take the Bible literally pr believe in evolution. Humans have souls and the ability to choose between good and evil and God gave humans eternal souls. God created them in his image. God is a triune relation so mam and woman united reflects God's image. United they stand, divided they fall 😊
Is any of the attributes to associated to Allah have anything to do with deception.......YES .... The best of the deceivers😂😂😂.... CHRIST IS KING
Deceiving or plotting against evil people which is similar to what the Bible says of God sending delusions to those who deserve it. Is that God Christ?
Deciever is a liar greatest of deceievers is ala and that means greatest of liars is also alia
Never heard anyone cope that hard before
According to Muslims believe that Jesus wasn't crucified. What I don't understand is that if Jesus wasn't crucified, than why Allah made it appear to be . Muslims don't believe Jesus was crucified and yet Allah made it appear to be. Come Muslims brothers
If I had a pair of fake Jordans and I lead someone to think the pair of Jordans were actually real … is that not deception???
Who did you deceive? Was it a person trying to kill you and your deception was to save your life?
@@nunya54Bruh what 😂 Deception is deception
@ doesn’t matter. Deception is deception.
So people were deceived for 6 hundred years then the Muhammed comes in and proclaims yes wasn't on the cross
Abdool thinks his clever but Allah got them all deceived
is he trynna say that the opposite of truth is not a lie 😭
This is my biggest issue with islam. Theres no way God wouldn't have forseen that deceiving people would lead to a false religion bigger than his own. And why would he wait 600 years before sending a prophet to set things straight. What happens to those who died believing jesus is God because of the resurrection. If the evidence for crucifixion wasn't as strong as it was they would have been better off denying ot outright. Theres no smart reason for deceiving the world for 600 years and no Good God would do that.
Firstly, people are not held accountable for what they don't know however, if someone else believes in a false god and worship them all their life, are they held accountable or not? No one saw Jesus crucified. The people who wrote that he was were all anonymous and were proven to have invented stories and embellished in their writing. They also never met Jesus and had no connection back to him or anyone to have seen him die. The people that did, the people in the first century and the earliest followers of Jesus, the earliest sects of "Christians" did not believe Jesus died. Why if there was evidence? Because there was none.
Jesus did not teach he was God. The first followers of Jesus from his own people did not hold those beliefs and that they took from his direct teachings of being a prophet and messiah. This was mainstream Christianity for THREE centuries before Christianity devolved into a triniatrian, polytheistic, pagan hybrid religion. There was always time between prophets and they were sent to correct the mistakes of before. Jesus came how many years after Moses to correct the mistakes of the lost sheep of Israel. You seem to be making an exception for Christianity but why?
There was no evidence Jesus was crucified. That's the point. God did not deceive anyone except it says those who were trying to kill Jesus and they had no proof, they only had conjecture that they did which is similar to God in the Bible saying he sends delusions to those who deserve it. Just like there is no evidence of any other god or religion being true but people are still responsible for what they believe and do.
@nunya54 the earliest sect of Christians became Christians because of the resurrection and they died proclaiming what they saw. You're just inventing your own history. There's more evidence for the crucifixion than for Mohammed's existence. Jesus did claim to be God in the bible. And most importantly you didn't address the issue. Why did Allah have to deceive people into believing Jesus died and for 600 years allowed the religion birthed from that belief spread. Allah basically invented Christianity from that POV. So it's his fault if I refuse to believe otherwise. He should have known better than to mislead innocent people
@@nunya54so who were the followers of Jesus who became dominant? What did they believe?
@@nunya54 Okay so can you provide at least 4 eyewitness sources of Allah saving Jesus then? I've asked over 40 Muslims and not one has provided anything. They can say those sources got 'corrupted' but the gnostic gospels conflict with this idea greatly, and on top of that it doesn't change the fact that Allah literally had a whole HALF MILLENIUM to tell and clarify to people like Paul (who literally spent his life getting imprisoned for preaching Christ Crucified) historians like Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny the Younger, who were recording the crucifixion, that it never happened. Instead, he decided to kick his feet back and stay mute doing absolutely nothing, knowing this narrative would surpass his own religion. You mean to tell me allah had the power to intervene at the crucifixion, but after that, he decided not to intervene to clarify things like this during the half millennium? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? You guys don't even know who Jesus was supposedly swapped out with..barrabus, Simon of Cyrene, or Judas who unlived himself minutes before Jesus was even taken for trial...is this a joke? How is this even supposed to be sufficient for us to believe?
I don't think you've even heard of the inscription found in an Israeli Jail which says "Jesus Christ is God" dated back to 230AD. So they already believed he was God centuries before your claim. You guys also love to say everyone fled from the scene. So how did they even know allah saved him if none of them were there??? And what happened to his mother who was literally there watching him die? did Allah deceive her too? Also, your point about them 'never meeting' Jesus doesn't even help your case because Muhummad did not meet him either so by your standard he's even less credible...
Why is logic so difficult for people who believe in Islam?
God bless you brother for the patients you have with the foolish. The guy truthfully states what a lie is and then denies that it's what a lie is. I pray to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for the souls of the fools who deny him.
It only looks like a lie cos you're using the contradiction filled outdated bible
@@gothspawn90So you're covering that lie with another lie? Typical. Every scholar would agree that Jesus was crucified.
islam also means one who submits their will to allah. So by definition you do not have free will.
No, by definition you do not. Allah's will and predetermination don't negate your free will.
@nunya54 not taking about predetermination, that's fate. We're talking about will, like free will. Don't you believe if you are of allah you'll be guided by him?
Only Satan is deceptive...
The Bible says God sends delusions to those who deserve it. Was that really Satan and not God?
@@nunya54 The bible does affirm that God can send delusions or allow people to be misled when they reject the truth and persist in unrighteousness. A key verse often cited in this context is 2 Thessalonians 2:11:
"And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie."
Understanding the Passage:
Context:
This verse occurs in a passage discussing the end times and the coming of the "lawless one" (commonly understood as the Antichrist). Those who follow the lawless one do so because they have rejected the love of the truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10). As a result, God permits them to believe in the deception they have chosen.
Note that you (@nunya54) belong in this category. You follow the lawless one and you rejected the truth. You have the strong delusion with you now.
Role of God vs. Satan:
God is sovereign and allows delusions as a form of judgment on those who willfully turn away from Him. However, Satan is often the direct agent of deception, as seen in verses like John 8:44, where Jesus calls him "the father of lies." In this sense, God does not deceive but permits Satan's deception to achieve His righteous judgment.
Biblical Parallels:
Romans 1:24-28 describes God giving people over to their sinful desires because they chose to worship created things rather than the Creator.
1 Kings 22:22-23 recounts God allowing a lying spirit to deceive King Ahab through his prophets as part of His judgment.
Was it Satan or God?
It is essential to differentiate between God's ultimate sovereignty and Satan's role as the deceiver:
Satan is the one who deceives, as seen in Genesis 3:13 and Revelation 12:9. God allows or ordains such deception as a form of judgment on those who reject Him. This reflects their own choice to reject truth and follow lies.
@@nunya54prove it.. what chapter what verse
@@woodmanmorning1234
2 Thessalonians 2:11
@@nunya54it’s been 3 weeks😂😂😂😂
He is sitting in the middle of the Muslim dilemma. He can't acknowledge truth because it would make Islam false. Everyone sees that he can't square that circle
Islam is the truth.
Satan is a deceiver. Allah being a deceiver is a clue to who Allah really is. Satan would want you to believe that Jesus didn’t die, was buried, and was resurrected the third day.
Why would Satan want you to not believe that?
So people wont be saved @@nunya54
@@nunya54what type of question is that???
@@GhidorahFan64 Why would Satan want you to not believe Jesus died? For most people, if someone dies, you definitely believe they're not God. So why would Satan want you to believe Jesus died? That would mean most people not believing he was God.
Muslims really don't seem to understand, that pointing to a Quran verse in order to refute another Quran verse? Is what's commonly known as, a contradiction?
God didn't push the evolution theory
Allah’s deception is the devils deception. Context context context. Then contradictions to his context to then manipulate context as the Quran promotes or aka enemy. Biblically so accurate it’s crazy.
Al = God. Lah = moon god
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Lah is the male God and Akbar is the female 😂pedofhile Qutam dont liked the female God and begon worshipping male God lah 😂😂 then put Al before the saitaniic moongod
so its god moon god . yeah means perfect sense . moon is qamar in arabic genius
Il means god in arabic not al. Al-lat was his nabatean queen and daughters al-uzza and al-manat. Surat 22 and 53 .
@@abz7800 Il is god in arabic. It should be il-lah.
But he is only a former nabatean king along with queen al-lat and al-uzza and al-manat as daughters.
Not three daughters as mentionned in surat 53.
Same surat where ahmad is bewitched and worshipped daughters of the-lah. Al-tabbari vol.6,111 ahmad says he lied. Qur'an 69,40 indeed the qur'an is the word of a noble messenger...
...he believes in al'Lah AND the evolution theory ?! He's double deceived 😵
Allah lied
He deceived tribes that wanted to kill Essa ibn maryum pbuh that's why
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The moment he puts in the EVOLUTION of Man that ended the debate for me.
ISLAM and EVOLUTION OF MAN are exactly the same just different Authors/investors.
Believing in ISLAM and EVOLUTION is just believing in a nice and perfectly narrated story without traceable evidence.
There is predestination in Islam,no free will,Allah affirms it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6614
Narrated Abu Huraira:
"The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses argued with each other. Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are our father who disappointed us and turned us out of Paradise.' Then Adam said to him, 'O Moses! Allah favored you with His talk (talked to you directly) and He wrote (the Torah) for you with His Own Hand. Do you blame me for action which Allah had written in my fate forty years before my creation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adam confuted Moses," the Prophet (ﷺ) added, repeating the Statement three times."
Predestination doesn't negate free will.
@@nunya54Allah made those for hell and heaven, you where destined for hell or heaven. You have no choice 😂, Mohammad said at the funeral of a child that some where made for heaven and hell.
5:23 if it’s only by will of God then you don’t have it 😂
Dude it's simple. Imagine living in first century Jerusalem and witnessing the crucifixion of Jesus with your own eyes. Crucifixion being a regular occurrence in Jerusalem at that time, would it be a matter of choice to believe or doubt Jesus' crucifixion when you witnessed it with your own eyes? Would that be something that only a hard hearted person would wrongly choose to conclude because he intended to disobey or disbelieve Allah's truth? If you were there to witness the event, wouldn't it be normal to believe that Jesus was crucified and delusional to believe that he wasn't?
Ppl have been crucified in modern times too
Anyway the point in the quran is....mankind tried to destroy the gift of guidence he gave them....they belived they achived their objective....the objective of raisin this gift to the sky and mocking the God jesus came to re-enforce.....and comiting the ultimate human sacrifice...the ultimate blesphamy.....they failed.....was jesus seen the next day walking around fine ? Mankind rejected him and belivied they destroyed him....they rejected the chance God gave them in disgusting fashion....forgive them father they know not wat they do....rember that....in otherwords like low iq savages they dont understand what ther doing ....especialy by doing human sacrifices to mock God....the spilling and drinking of the inocent pure blood....and their excuse the blood gives them life......their are still entites that try to feed off the inocent and pure...as its the ultimate blesphamy and mocking of God.....but all that happened was mankind sealed their fate....the fate that God tried to save them from by placing the perfect example to follow amongst them whose guidence would of saved them.....but all they did was make things worse and completly sealed the coming of armegedon....the false belief that comiting the human sacrifice and that of the most pure...and then drinking his blood and eating his flesh to mock futher did something to save mankind...no it just sealed their fate....look around you...you think your saved....you think breaking every commemandmant saves you....you think having your daughters wives and siters being on only fans open wide to the world while riding of the countries that help and condone this saves you....jesus is fine....you think you spilled his blood.....but all that was spilled are the seeds of the events leading to armagedon......but those whose rejocies in that sacrifical moment and bow to it..making statues of it mocking God futher by bowing to their ultimate human sacrifices in houses they asign to God does nothing but set up more to go to hell.....mankind sealed its own fate....made its own choices....and they chose to break every commandment and comit evry sin and much much more....
@@Isacc.. Your story doesn't add up; not historically, not theologically, and not even logically.
History confirms Jesus' crucifixion.
Theologically, it makes no sense for God to leave somebody on the cross to be mistaken for Jesus when raising him up to heaven out of their hands would have been so much more impactful and would have validated the Islamic version of Jesus and made his ministry successful. The way the events transpired lead to a "false" religion that has dominated the world for 1700 years and made Jesus' ministry the biggest waste of time failure imaginable. Imagine what would have happened if Jesus was lifted up alive and unharmed out of the hands of his would be executioners. Also if God replaced Jesus with a lookalike wouldn't he be unjust to have a substitute suffer the punishment for a crime he didn't commit and wasn't accused of? For what purpose?
Logically, the Islamic narrative makes no sense. For example, why would the substitute be able to say things that only the real Jesus would say to the people around him and to John and his mother Mary? Why would the substitute not cry out the he's not Jesus? I think that would make it through some so called gospel very early. And if this substitute did deny being Jesus, then how do you explain Christianity? Why and how would people in the first century invent a religion centered around the shameful death of God's prophet? Why would such a thing even cross anybody's mind? Unless of course Jesus was crucified, died and rose up to life again and taught his disciples directly and then by the Holy Spirit, that his death was planned and foretold, and that his purpose was to die for the world so that he might satisfy the justice of God so that we can be accepted back into God's presence by grace through faith in what God did through His Son?
Nobody witnessed it with their own eyes; that's why we have no evidence it actually happened.
@@realnazarene5379 History confirms some people believed Jesus was crucified while some people believed he was not including the people during that time and earliest followers of Jesus. What "history" can't do is prove Jesus was crucified and that's the problem.
Theologically, everything God does make sense to him. You may not understand it but God does and he has complete knowledge and wisdom. He created us to test us. The important point is the people did NOT believe Jesus was crucified. It was common belief in the first century that Jesus did not die. And why does God say he made it appear it was Jesus and to who? He then says they had no proof it was Jesus and it was conjecture. Again, who? The Ebionites, the Nazarenes, Christians in the first century didn't believe Jesus died but who does? Only people that came later with no evidence he did. The Islamic version of Jesus IS the early "Christian" version of Jesus. They held the same beliefs about Jesus that Muslims do.
Jesus' ministry was successful. He did what Allah sent him to do. Allah says that it is not upon the prophets that people follow their way of not. They only have to convey the message. Some prophets had no one accept their message at all yet in still, they were successful. Jesus' followers as well, the first Jewish Christians practiced upon Jesus' way correctly for about three centuries after him before mainstream "Christianity" changed and became a paganized deviation. Christianity was not "invented" in the first century like you said. The first "Christians" were Torah-practicing Jews, like Jesus. Christianity actually came later and was a deviation of that religion mixed with paganism that became what Christianity is today (not the religion of Jesus barely at all).
God did not plan it the way you THINK it should have God; he has full and complete knowledge. Perhaps because Christianity is the modern day paganism and grew, you are making it more special than it is when it is just like any other falsehood or religion not based on authentic revelation. During the time of Noah, most of the people in the world were upon a religion that was false. Their disbelief dominated the world at that time too. Does that mean Noah was a failure? Does that mean God had a bad plan that he let most people in the world fall into polytheism?
The Islamic narrative makes complete sense and most importantly, it's authentic. You are basing what you believe and what you're saying on inauthentic narrations. There is no true narration that John or Mary saw Jesus die. Even the Bible and Christian history can't confirm that to be true and show contradictory details about the event. No one outside the anonymous writers of the gospels even wrote about it. The Basilidians said it was Simon of Cyrene instead. The Ebionites and Nazarenes didn't believe it. There was no symbolism of it found in the early Church; nothing in the catacombs, histories that should have included it during and soon after that time don't. When we look at all of the evidence, we don't actually find any to support those stories being true; stories, mind you, written by people proven to be dishonest!
Also be mindful we do not have all the gospels that existed. Some were not chosen, some were destroyed and all those we have left are what were chosen to the exclusion of other gospels and ideas that said differently.
@@nunya54 What are you talking about? There's absolutely zero doubt that Jesus was crucified and his crucifixion was witnessed by many of his disciples and his mother. What is your evidence that nobody witnessed the crucifixion? What is your evidence that Jesus wasn't crucified? And please don't say the Quran or your so called scholars. Your scholars have nothing but baseless conjecture. The Quran is what's being scrutinized here, not the well established crucifixion of Jesus. The Quran came 600 years after the events, therefore the default position is to doubt that it has anything at all to say on the matter, let alone be an authority. And you can't say that if you prove that the Quran is divine then you must accept all its claims. You can't prove the Quran is divine because it's beyond stupid, not to mention wrong on so many levels, and the so called prophet who claimed to have received the Quran lacked the moral character to be accepted as a prophet by any rational human being. Not to mention the Quran doesn't even know how to try to line up with the long chain of prophets. It doesn't know how revelation works or how prophets receive revelation. Islam is a last minute book report done by a lazy student who put it together the last minute after watching a movie; actually even worse, after asking his no good roommate about the movie he watched about the book years ago. The burden of proof is on you.
Really don’t know if it’s stupidity or defence mode
I don't believe in evolution either.
@Growsomeskin You say you do not believe in evolution.So if you believe that you were created by intelligent selection then you must be believing that you are superior than the ones who were created by evolution.Is that so?
we have the free will to believe in allahs deception.. and if we fall for it its our fault..not allahs lol
how are these guys so convinced of their stupidity.. May our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ remove these demonic blindfolds that are upon our muslim brothers and sisters 🙏🏽
We weren't there to be deceived and no one saw Jesus crucified. So whose fault is it for believing in something they never saw and no one can prove and people can definitely disprove?
@ No one saw Jesus crucified? Your Quran admits that it was made to appear to people that he was crucified. So once again, if he really was’nt crucified, then its your deceptive Allahs fault that the people of that time believed he was, and that tradition and belief has been passed on and still exists today to over 2 billion Christians. 👏🏽
@ and just to add to the above, not only Christians but Jews and other non-christians believe the crucifixion of Jesus occured. Its just your prophet that disagrees. So the proof is overwhelmingly on the side of the crucifixion.. so based on that, i would love to know how “people can definitely disprove” the crucifixion??
@@Daniel-c9c7p Did you actually read what the Quran says? It says "And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, the Messenger of God," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not." 4:157.
Two problems with your premise. One is that you're saying this deception tricked Christians but there's no proof Christians or people who followed and believed in Jesus witnessed Jesus being crucified. Hebrews 5:7 shows the disciples seeing Jesus saved. It was common belief in the first century that Jesus did not die. So who was tricked? The earliest congregation and sects of Christians didn't believe Jesus died. The Docetae didn't believe if. The Ebionites didn't believe it. The Nazarenes, the Basilidians. There's proof in the letters of Ignatius that Christians in the first century did not believe he died. There's proof in the language of the mystics of Christians having doubt. There was no symbolism of it in the early Church. So who was tricked? There are no known witnesses to have said they saw Jesus die!
The verse says they were full of doubt and they were following conjecture meaning they did not know they killed Jesus. There are no writings about it outside the anonymous ones in the gospels. Where is the proof anyone believing in Jesus and following him was tricked and believed he died that saw it? There are none. How can someone be tricked by something they did not see?
The verse is speaking about those trying to kill Jesus. They did not believe in or follow Jesus. Why would them believing Jesus died matter? They weren't Christian. It doesn't fit in with this strange claim you're making that God is responsible for CHRISTIANS believing Jesus died. They weren't Christians and they did not know they killed Jesus. They were disbelievers trying to kill Jesus! They would deserve to be tricked just like in the Bible when it says God sends a delusion to those who deserve it. So how were Christians tricked or did some Christians, later on, who never saw Jesus crucified and had no proof he was, follow the anonymous writings of some men telling him he was not even knowing if those men were from the same people trying to kill Jesus? Literally no one knows who wrote he did. They were not tricked by God, they were tricked by those men.
Christians today still believing Jesus died, literally have no evidence he did die AND they have evidence he did not die as revealed over 1400 years ago. So what is their excuse?
It literally says Theory of Evolution.
The Muslim claims evolution is real, which contradicts his faith in Islam because Islam teaches that Allah created everything while evolution teaches that everything and everyone came from absolutely no one/nothing !!!😢
Evolution is general, vague and has numerous meanings. Some are agreed upon and some are not.
@ faith is required to believe darwinian and comic , sorry I meant “cosmic” evolution.
Now allah made evolution hahaha 🤣 this abdoool is something else
How stupid can people really be 😮 it's amazing 😢
The wheels on the bus go round and round
GodLogic is so patient with these liars.
Sam Shamoun will get the demon out of them.
GL was fairly impatient last night. Haha.
Twisted logic. Ph my gosh. Their brain needs a reset.
Lol this was hard to watch 😂
this guy hasnt read 3v54 7v99 8v30 allah the best of deceivers
0:18 “did da did” 😂😂😂 the video is starting well
WHAT GOD DID WAS WHAT HE DID😂😂😂😂
Put it on a shirt and make this a new abdul meme lol
His brain lags he starts stumbling on his words and I both laugh and cry. Indeed it seems people choose to be deceived...
A guy in a cave runs screaming from the cave saying that an spirit appeared to him , then some time later he says it was a angel . That’s the biggest lie
Where does it say he came screaming from a cave?
Wassup logic Dahbloc says what's good your debate skills on point I'm new to Jesus as far as fellowship today I know who is in control of all things I feel sharpened listening to you believe me you sit them back on the fence I pray that at least one steps off on the rite side God will have won one back keep pumpin dat logic. Dahbloc
God is not a God of confusion, why would God try to confuse us by letting us think Jesus was crucified if he wasn't, why would he want us to believe a lie, and that it wasn't Jesus who died on the cross. Or is the Bible lying, when it saids God is not a God of confusion. If it weren't because I know Jesus died on the cross for us, I would be so confused right now, thank you Jesus for the truth . 😊
According to Coran, allah is the greatest deceiver ... According to bible he's the father of lies.
Satan dressed up like an angel of light and spoke to Mohammed... Paul warned us about such deceivers coming down with "another gospel"
Why're you talking like you were there?,let's remove the fact that the new Testament has contradictions
If the followers of jesus believed that he died,what would've changed?
God simply saved his prophet,the bad guys thought they killed him,he had already spread his message and he had his companions,it'll take a miracle to convince y'all that no one can be ressurected,except through God by a prophet
@@gothspawn90 you know why I sound like I was there because Jesus reveals his true word, we can count on his word, and it's like we were there, you should try it😊
@@gothspawn90If that's the case why then would Jesus' own disciples claim that Jesus rose from the dead? If they knew that God took Jesus before his crucifixion why then would they proclaim that Jesus was dead and that he rose again? What? Did they forgot that the Jesus that died on the cross wasn't really Jesus? You asked what will change if Jesus' disciples believed him to be dead? It's simple: since Jesus is alive that means he has conquered death and it proves what he says about himself: that he is God. The answer is Christianity. That's how Christianity is born: the death and resurrection of Christ.
@@doloresperez5296 OK,just ignore all the logic
AVERY IS THE BEST EXAMPLE, HE IS MISGUIDED, HE DOESN'T WANT TO BELIEVE OR LISTEN, SO LET HIM MISGUIDED. THANK YOU ALMIGHTY GOD FOR PUNISHING ALL NONBELIEVERS ON JUDGEMENT DAY. AMEN.
Die after lie after lie you can't keep up with them
Avery, you are too good.
lmao
Avery is a very gracious and patient man.
What's sad is Allah himself made something appear that wasn't true , it's a lie can't get around it and Muslims defend a lie Remember Allah says it's okay to lie so I understand they have to believe a lie for the sake of Allah
You guys think it's a lie cos then you wouldn't have someone to pray to,whereas we look at it as God saving his prophet from the enemy
@gothspawn90 the issue is and always will be is that Allah made something appear that didn't happen that's called deception, Allah made it appear Jesus Christ died but it wasn't Jesus Christ, that's called FALSEHOOD DECEPTION DECEIVING no way around it
Remember at the end of the day you're still crying......come to Jesus..
Allah calls himself the greatest deceiver for a reason lol
That means he is able to foil the plots of evil people and meet them with their like and is such an odd thing for Christians to be critical of since he did so to save Jesus. Weird.
@ no that means Allah is deceptive and can’t be God nor be trusted. That title isn’t a flex lol
@@rambo_4_christ7 It's what God says about himself. Are you saying about God based on the Bible, Quran and you, that God is untrustworthy? 2 Thessalonians 2:11says for this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. In the Bible, during the days of Jesus’ life on earth, when he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission and after being heard, which means God accepted his prayer and saved him but then God didn't save him. Is that an example you mean of God being untrustworthy?
The way it's used in the Quran does not indicate that since the word Al Makkar translates to plotting and planning and it is God doing so against evil people trying to kill his prophets and the believers. What about that makes God untrustworthy to you? You think a trustworthy God doesn't do actions to stop evil people from doing evil things? Trustworthy would be him, like Christians say, killing his own son or himself if he's God? Please explain. This is an interesting concept you have that God can't be trusted. Sounds like you don't believe in God.
I love the way this person patiently decodes the Islamic falsehood...
Islam allows someone to believe two mutually opposing ideas at the same time
Wait, wait wait, who’s on first, what’s on second, no I don’t know if it’s on third😮
This is called great deception
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Nahhhhh. He absolutely DOES NOT see where you’re coming from. This made my head hurt.
Jesus’s disciples did not believe he was crucified…there were true followers of Jesus peace be upon him , all the way to the time of Prophet Mohammed. It’s not as if it was made to appear to people and everyone believed he was crucified..thats your assumption..
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It took a 3rd time Avery but I think the Muslim skipped to Christians believing Jesus was crucified and saying you believed a lie. He can't or won't argue from a pure Muslim perspective.
I'm still waiting for humans to evolve into something else after becoming human beings.