Bro text was there but it published as a book after Muhammed and its not 200 years, its around 80years after. We have parts from Muhammed era. Some parts literally have %50-60 of the Qur'an. Soo people needed to memorize nothing. Even the famous Sana-manuscriptt which belong to Muhammed's era or just a few years later of his death, christians uses that text for claiming Qur'an changed because that manuscript changed and has markers on it. Now we literally know that text most likely belong to a teacher or a Child which practicing Qur'an and try to learn how to write&read correctly. Soo the very best proof you try to use turned against you 😅 I am not saying Qur'an is perfect or we are able to fully understand it but please quit ignorance and stupid claims.
@@popovski4385 every book is human made I am not with the crazy people who declare "not a single point change or its perfect*" ideaology of being perfect in this world literally belong to evil. Humans and this world is flawed. Thats the beauty behind it but your "trust me bro" story aproach is far beyond ignorance. Scientifc miracles in Qur'an can not be denyable. There are around 40 scientifc knowledge in it which is beyond its time and many of them still a mistery. I know you probably gonna tell me "they copy from other texts" but basicly if I gonna ask you , you Will never find and show me those texts. So who is "trust me bro"? 😅 moreover even the arabic people of the time dont get the text. They made wrong tefsirs and translations. Which is fascinating for me. İt shows no people at that time able to understand and write those concepts but somehow they choose to believe .
@@popovski4385 The Quran encourages critical thinking and reflection. It presents a comprehensive worldview with logical arguments and calls for a life of faith, worship, and good deeds. It doesn't solely rely on blind trust."
>>>The Quran was written 200 years after Mohammed died no way did somebody recite a whole book ============================== The claim that the Quran was written 200 years after Muhammad's death is inaccurate. The Quran was compiled and written down during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad and shortly after his death in 632 CE. Before being written down, the Quran was transmitted orally among Prophet Muhammad's companions and followers.
You know nothing! Your Qurans were chopped and changed, abrogated, parchments wiped off and rewritten over right up to 18th century... and there is 100% proof.
Allah mentions in surah48:29, yhe parableof the sower and allah says it is in Mark. Surah18:32, allah mentions thae parable of the vineyard, allah says it is in mathew. So, ALLAH KNOWS THE AUTHORS OF THE FOUR FOLD GOSPEL. Halali Khan describe the parables.
@@murielpucoe9213 No, the claim that Surah 48:29 (parable of the sower) and Surah 18:32 (parable of the vineyard) have direct parallels in Mark and Matthew, respectively, is not accurate.
I think he needs to read the bible himself not what the scholars told him, then he will find the ture Jesus , and that the Quran is wrong before it is too late for him to repent .
Mark 1:14-15 King James Version (KJV) Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. also read Matthew 4.23 When Quran talks about the Injeel (gospel) revealed orally to Prophet Isa AS (Jesus) it refers to the one mentioned in Mark 1:14-15 and Matthew 4:23.++
Do you even know what the Gospel means? - It means The Good News. Do you know what The Good News is? -The Good News is that Jesus came to give us salvation and eternal life. How do we get the salvation and erternal life? - ONLY THROUGH JESUS Jesus is the Way, the Truth and Life. Seek and you will find the truth. Read the Bible my brother and you will understand everything why Jesus came. @letmetalk2240
@@Coptic-2024 The question is Did Jesus use the gospel written by Mark, Matthew, Luke and John? Obviously, Mark 1-14-15 and Matthew 4:23 give a different answer. Why didn't you address this issue?
Mark 1:14-15 King James Version (KJV) Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. also read Matthew 4.23 When Quran talks about the Injeel (gospel) revealed orally to Prophet Isa AS (Jesus) it refers to the one mentioned in Mark 1:14-15 and Matthew 4:23.++
@@letmetalk2240so u said the Quran acknowledges that mark and Mathew were the gospel, very good. Mark literally introduces Jesus as YHWH who came to his temple, and Mathew also says that Jesus is “God with us”. Not to mention that in sirat rasulallah it says that the gospel of John is authentic and it says that Paul is an apostle of Jesus. Not to mentioning your own prophet confirmed what is between our hands and told us to judge by them
13:30. Bro tried to quote a verse from the Quran, “I can literally pull it up for you” Avery: “the verse you’re talking about doesn’t say that, it says guardian” Him: “….what verse?” Ooof 😭 asking Sheikh Logic what the verse number is for the verse you mentioned. 😓 oh that is humbling 😂😂😂
@@noteuser15 مسيطر and مهيمن means the same thing In Arabic you can have many words which have the same meaning, muhaymn does not mean guardian it means dominant over, or authority over, put this word in google translator and tell me what it means مهيمنا
@@noteuser15 from my perspective you really sound stupid bro, i spoke Arabic my whole life and you are arguing with me about a language that you dont speak, its like me saying to you (home) and (house) doesnt mean the same thing.
@@bobbyhempel1513 Yahweh preserves all the errors, inconsistencies, discrepancies, contradictions found in the Bible. Why? To make life easy for Muslims when debating the Christians.
(1:04) the _only_ way Islamic scholars can get away w/ saying _there's only one Quran_ is because the Quran was standardized in 1985, worldwide, after first being standardized in Egypt in 1924. before 1924, the Quran you used was wholly dependent upon your location and your mosque.
What is the Injeel? Mark 1:14-15 King James Version (KJV) Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. also read Matthew 4.23 When Quran talks about the Injeel (gospel) revealed orally to Prophet Isa AS (Jesus) it refers to the one mentioned in Mark 1:14-15 and Matthew 4:23.++
@@letmetalk2240 u said the Quran acknowledges that mark and Mathew were the gospel, very good. Mark literally introduces Jesus as YHWH who came to his temple, and Mathew also says that Jesus is "God with us". Not to mention that in sirat rasulallah it says that the gospel of John is authentic and it says that Paul is an apostle of Jesus. Not to mentioning your own prophet confirmed what is between our hands and told us to judge by them
@@sergioraidy8068 >>>> u said the Quran acknowledges that mark and Mathew were the gospel, very good. ============================================= Your comprehension skill is really pathetic. I do not want to waste my time with people without wisdom like you.
He laughing because their responses are predictable even tho they argument is faulty and cant defend their position they first go to is to attack Jesus as if that will strengthen their position it actually makes them look like fools
Hafs, Warsh, Qalun etc are the methods/styles of reciting the Quran. Hafs ibn Sulayman al-Asadi al-Kufi was a prominent Quranic scholar and transmitter of the Quranic recitation. He is considered one of the most renowned transmitters of the recitation of Asim ibn Abi al-Najud, one of the seven authentic readings of the Quran. The Hafs recitation of Asim is the most widely used method of Quranic recitation today in many parts of the Muslim world.
@@letmetalk2240 - Dude, the question was Who was the writer of quran? Where was he born? What's his parents name? What is his education? Did he have siblings? What was his age when he met Muhammed? What was his parents religion? Many more questions to come. The Muslims guy said that everything is known about the writers of the quran and he was not happy about the little information about the disciples of Jesus that Avery gave him.
@@sirrom7997 >>>>so technically your quran that you are reading is just the recitation of hafs and its not the written book of your god. ===================================== I didn't see any wisdom in your comment.
@@RoyRichard-h1y If you have done research about it, you wouldn't ask those questions. Get to know first how the Quran was revealed and how it was preserved. The Quran is believed to be the direct word of God, revealed to Prophet Muhammad through the Angel Gabriel. It is not a product of human authorship. The focus of Islamic belief is on the divine message of the Quran and its guidance for humanity.
The Bible has some truth in it. I need to see where it says that. Can you provide the verse. The Koran does not say the Bible has some truth in it. He can't admit the truth. Ask those who read the scriptures before you if you are in doubt. It's very clear.
>>>> Ask those who read the scriptures before you if you are in doubt. It's very clear. ============================================ Quran refers to those who knew the authentic scriptures before they were corrupted.
@@gehanoates885 Quran 5:13 They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. Quran 2:79 So woe to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”-seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned. Jeremiah 8:8 ‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
@@letmetalk2240 And it says that they were present at the time of Muhammad. The scriptures we have now are exactly the same as they were at the time of Muhammad.
@@bobbyhempel1513 The Old and the New Testaments contradict each other in so many ways, that they can’t logically, truthfully, honestly, rationally, reasonably be considered holy scriptures.
Quran says, sperm come from between the back bone and ribs, the sun sets in a pool of murky water, stars are missiles God throws at the devil, Mary is the sister of Aaron even though they lived in different generations, Quran proven to be full of fallacy, fantasy and myths, total BS!
Double standards at its finest!!!
Saying something is anonymous and then literally calling the Gospels by its authors is CRAZY
I pray God removes his ignorance
The Quran was written 200 years after Mohammed died no way did somebody recite a whole book Total rubbish
Bro text was there but it published as a book after Muhammed and its not 200 years, its around 80years after. We have parts from Muhammed era. Some parts literally have %50-60 of the Qur'an. Soo people needed to memorize nothing. Even the famous Sana-manuscriptt which belong to Muhammed's era or just a few years later of his death, christians uses that text for claiming Qur'an changed because that manuscript changed and has markers on it. Now we literally know that text most likely belong to a teacher or a Child which practicing Qur'an and try to learn how to write&read correctly. Soo the very best proof you try to use turned against you 😅 I am not saying Qur'an is perfect or we are able to fully understand it but please quit ignorance and stupid claims.
@@vulcanryl9776 fact remains that the Quran is basically the longest "just trust me bro" story ever told
@@popovski4385 every book is human made I am not with the crazy people who declare "not a single point change or its perfect*" ideaology of being perfect in this world literally belong to evil. Humans and this world is flawed. Thats the beauty behind it but your "trust me bro" story aproach is far beyond ignorance. Scientifc miracles in Qur'an can not be denyable. There are around 40 scientifc knowledge in it which is beyond its time and many of them still a mistery. I know you probably gonna tell me "they copy from other texts" but basicly if I gonna ask you , you Will never find and show me those texts. So who is "trust me bro"? 😅 moreover even the arabic people of the time dont get the text. They made wrong tefsirs and translations. Which is fascinating for me. İt shows no people at that time able to understand and write those concepts but somehow they choose to believe .
@@popovski4385
The Quran encourages critical thinking and reflection.
It presents a comprehensive worldview with logical arguments and calls for a life of faith, worship, and good deeds.
It doesn't solely rely on blind trust."
>>>The Quran was written 200 years after Mohammed died no way did somebody recite a whole book
==============================
The claim that the Quran was written 200 years after Muhammad's death is inaccurate.
The Quran was compiled and written down during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad and shortly after his death in 632 CE.
Before being written down, the Quran was transmitted orally among Prophet Muhammad's companions and followers.
I can show you more than 26 different Quran
Who Wrote all the Quran ??? 😂
You know nothing! Your Qurans were chopped and changed, abrogated, parchments wiped off and rewritten over right up to 18th century... and there is 100% proof.
OK. When ask, you will provide the different methods/styles of reciting the Quran and also the names of the best Quran reciters. 😊
Allah mentions in surah48:29, yhe parableof the sower and allah says it is in Mark. Surah18:32, allah mentions thae parable of the vineyard, allah says it is in mathew. So, ALLAH KNOWS THE AUTHORS OF THE FOUR FOLD GOSPEL. Halali Khan describe the parables.
@@murielpucoe9213
No, the claim that Surah 48:29 (parable of the sower) and Surah 18:32 (parable of the vineyard) have direct parallels in Mark and Matthew, respectively, is not accurate.
I think he needs to read the bible himself not what the scholars told him, then he will find the ture Jesus , and that the Quran is wrong before it is too late for him to repent .
Mark 1:14-15 King James Version (KJV)
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying,
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
also read Matthew 4.23
When Quran talks about the Injeel (gospel) revealed orally to Prophet Isa AS (Jesus) it refers to the one mentioned in Mark 1:14-15 and Matthew 4:23.++
Do you even know what the Gospel means?
- It means The Good News.
Do you know what The Good News is?
-The Good News is that Jesus came to give us salvation and eternal life.
How do we get the salvation and erternal life?
- ONLY THROUGH JESUS
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and Life. Seek and you will find the truth.
Read the Bible my brother and you will understand everything why Jesus came.
@letmetalk2240
@@Coptic-2024 The question is Did Jesus use the gospel written by Mark, Matthew, Luke and John?
Obviously, Mark 1-14-15 and Matthew 4:23 give a different answer.
Why didn't you address this issue?
@@letmetalk2240actually they don’t, you believe that the kingdom of allah came here to earth and Jesus brought it?
Surat Rasulallah written by ibn ishaaq/ ibn Ishaam, says thzt the INJEEL IS THE BOOK OF JOHN,because of the verse of the COMFORTER.
Mark 1:14-15 King James Version (KJV)
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying,
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
also read Matthew 4.23
When Quran talks about the Injeel (gospel) revealed orally to Prophet Isa AS (Jesus) it refers to the one mentioned in Mark 1:14-15 and Matthew 4:23.++
@@letmetalk2240so u said the Quran acknowledges that mark and Mathew were the gospel, very good. Mark literally introduces Jesus as YHWH who came to his temple, and Mathew also says that Jesus is “God with us”. Not to mention that in sirat rasulallah it says that the gospel of John is authentic and it says that Paul is an apostle of Jesus. Not to mentioning your own prophet confirmed what is between our hands and told us to judge by them
@@sergioraidy8068
Your comprehension skill is really pathetic.
I do not want to waste my time with people without wisdom like you.
At 5:45 in, id ask Who wrote Surah bukkara? Who wrote Surah Imran?
Quran is the verbatim words of God.
@@letmetalk2240 no it isn't.
@@bobbyhempel1513
Quran says Truth stands out clear from error.
You said a bunch of nothing abdool😂
😂😂😂😭😭😭😭☠️ logic is cooking him
The Quran says the message of Christ was true but they deny that he was crucified
He is bias and blind
13:30. Bro tried to quote a verse from the Quran, “I can literally pull it up for you”
Avery: “the verse you’re talking about doesn’t say that, it says guardian”
Him: “….what verse?”
Ooof 😭 asking Sheikh Logic what the verse number is for the verse you mentioned. 😓 oh that is humbling 😂😂😂
Im an Arabic speaker and this word مهيمنا does not mean guardian this translation is wrong, the word literally means dominant.
@ nope. Dominant is مسيطر(‘musaytir’) nice try.
@@noteuser15 مسيطر and مهيمن means the same thing
In Arabic you can have many words which have the same meaning, muhaymn does not mean guardian it means dominant over, or authority over, put this word in google translator and tell me what it means
مهيمنا
@@noteuser15 guardian in Arabic would be one of these words
وصي
حارس
راعي
@@noteuser15 from my perspective you really sound stupid bro, i spoke Arabic my whole life and you are arguing with me about a language that you dont speak, its like me saying to you (home) and (house) doesnt mean the same thing.
Thebtruthbis hard for islam
Quran says Truth stands out clear from error.
Muslims have no fear in a debate.
Quran always wins.
@@letmetalk2240quran always loos tf u on about Muslims run all the time they cannot defend the notebook called quran
@@letmetalk2240never has.
@@bobbyhempel1513
Yahweh preserves all the errors, inconsistencies, discrepancies, contradictions found in the Bible.
Why?
To make life easy for Muslims when debating the Christians.
What truth??? Its based on a big lie 😂 thats why uthman burned them all.. why did he burn al lah speach??? @letmetalk2240
(1:04) the _only_ way Islamic scholars can get away w/ saying _there's only one Quran_ is because the Quran was standardized in 1985, worldwide, after first being standardized in Egypt in 1924. before 1924, the Quran you used was wholly dependent upon your location and your mosque.
False premise.
Fyi, the 1924 Cairo edition is a PRINTED version when printing machine was available.
Try harder.
He refuses to accept what his own Quran says.
9:13 why do they think that insults us lol
What is the Injeel?
Mark 1:14-15 King James Version (KJV)
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying,
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
also read Matthew 4.23
When Quran talks about the Injeel (gospel) revealed orally to Prophet Isa AS (Jesus) it refers to the one mentioned in Mark 1:14-15 and Matthew 4:23.++
@@letmetalk2240 u said the Quran acknowledges that mark and Mathew were the gospel, very good. Mark literally introduces Jesus as YHWH who came to his temple, and Mathew also says that Jesus is "God with us". Not to mention that in sirat rasulallah it says that the gospel of John is authentic and it says that Paul is an apostle of Jesus.
Not to mentioning your own prophet confirmed what is between our hands and told us to judge by them
@@sergioraidy8068 >>>> u said the Quran acknowledges that mark and Mathew were the gospel, very good.
=============================================
Your comprehension skill is really pathetic.
I do not want to waste my time with people without wisdom like you.
He laughing because their responses are predictable even tho they argument is faulty and cant defend their position they first go to is to attack Jesus as if that will strengthen their position it actually makes them look like fools
Get him out
"You have to dig deep to dismantle my ground"
Cg, you gave Avery the argument because you got blinded by hurt pride
Why didn't Avery ask about the writers of the quran? Who is Huffs and his family? 🙄😂
Hafs, Warsh, Qalun etc are the methods/styles of reciting the Quran.
Hafs ibn Sulayman al-Asadi al-Kufi was a prominent Quranic scholar and transmitter of the Quranic recitation. He is considered one of the most renowned transmitters of the recitation of Asim ibn Abi al-Najud, one of the seven authentic readings of the Quran.
The Hafs recitation of Asim is the most widely used method of Quranic recitation today in many parts of the Muslim world.
@@letmetalk2240so technically your quran that you are reading is just the recitation of hafs and its not the written book of your god.got it!👍
@@letmetalk2240 - Dude, the question was Who was the writer of quran? Where was he born? What's his parents name? What is his education? Did he have siblings? What was his age when he met Muhammed? What was his parents religion? Many more questions to come.
The Muslims guy said that everything is known about the writers of the quran and he was not happy about the little information about the disciples of Jesus that Avery gave him.
@@sirrom7997 >>>>so technically your quran that you are reading is just the recitation of hafs and its not the written book of your god.
=====================================
I didn't see any wisdom in your comment.
@@RoyRichard-h1y If you have done research about it, you wouldn't ask those questions.
Get to know first how the Quran was revealed and how it was preserved.
The Quran is believed to be the direct word of God, revealed to Prophet Muhammad through the Angel Gabriel.
It is not a product of human authorship. The focus of Islamic belief is on the divine message of the Quran and its guidance for humanity.
The Bible has some truth in it. I need to see where it says that. Can you provide the verse.
The Koran does not say the Bible has some truth in it. He can't admit the truth. Ask those who read the scriptures before you if you are in doubt. It's very clear.
>>>> Ask those who read the scriptures before you if you are in doubt. It's very clear.
============================================
Quran refers to those who knew the authentic scriptures before they were corrupted.
@letmetalk2240 Where does the Koran say the scriptures are corrupted. Please show me the verse.
@@gehanoates885
Quran 5:13 They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold.
Quran 2:79 So woe to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from Allah”-seeking a fleeting gain!
So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned.
Jeremiah 8:8 ‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
@@letmetalk2240so they were not corrupted until the 6 century? 🤣
@@letmetalk2240 And it says that they were present at the time of Muhammad. The scriptures we have now are exactly the same as they were at the time of Muhammad.
So A Guardian actually means a supreme authority. Liar. Just another lying Abdool
This word مهيمنا does not mean guardian i dont know who translated that word, مهيمنا literally means dominant.
The Quran provides a criterion for discerning the true and authentic teachings within previous scriptures.
No it doesn’t
Lol yeah ok.
@@bobbyhempel1513
The Old and the New Testaments contradict each other in so many ways, that they can’t logically, truthfully, honestly, rationally, reasonably be considered holy scriptures.
Quran says, sperm come from between the back bone and ribs, the sun sets in a pool of murky water, stars are missiles God throws at the devil, Mary is the sister of Aaron even though they lived in different generations, Quran proven to be full of fallacy, fantasy and myths, total BS!
@@letmetalk2240but your Quran doesn’t contradict?🤣🤣