For the CRIMES and The THEFT by the Post Office the entire Post Office hierarchy Must be prosecuted and the Politicians responsible for this injustice should be held to account for their behaviour.😡
More zionist division wake up people do some research, try who's funding NGOs like IsraAID listen to Barbara Learner Spectre watch Europa the last battle .
How can you compensate people that are now dead? How can you compensate people that lost years of their lives; how can you compensate people that lost the respect of their community and whose children were abused!!
Absolutely disgusting reprehensible behaviour from all the thieves, bullies & liars on the Post Office management & 'investigation' teams. All should have to pay the victims restitution & compensation and serve prison time
@politics392 and replace them with who? It was Blair's government that awarded the contract to Fujitsu even though they already knew it wasn't fit for purpose and the current Labour leader was head of the CPS at the time and denies all knowledge of it, yeah Labour sounds like a great alternative.
All the stories have been heartbreaking, and the ones involving suicides are the worst, but this is the one that really got to me when I read about it a few years ago. As a mother myself I cannot even to begin imagine what she went through. God bless her and her family. I hope she is fully compensated very soon and there are full consequences for those who put her in that position.
Yes they should be stripped of all their bonuses and prison sentences and that goes for Ed. Davies. This just goes to show that these Gongs, Peerages etc should be abolished. We need all our Parliament - House of Lords - Civil Service abolished and it all streamlined so that when a new Government is elected they bring in their own team to deal with all monies and Legalities. You can't tell me our Government didn't know about the fraud in the Post. Office.
All of those that conspired to cover up the computer shortcomings and faults who knowingly allowed innocent people to be convicted, serve prison time and continue to suffer should be prosecuted to the full and themselves be consigned to prison. It's abhorrent and disgusting what has been highlighted, especially as once the powers at be at the Post Office knew the issue they promptly decided to cover it up! It is a complete travesty and certainly should never be allowed to happen again!
And a certain PM must have known too! I’m not liking reading that so many expect ‘nothing will happen’. I think it will! It’s time for things to change - and the speed with which so much is coming to light after this brilliant and factual Drama shown has brought this massive miscarriage of Justice full on into all our lives. It doesn’t matter who’ thinks they’ve ’got away with it’, this enormous scandal can be the turning point!
This is a national disgrace and a truly shocking coverup operation by The Post Office and Fujitsu. I have to wonder if any of the higher-up from those companies, who knowingly covered up the problems while innocent people did time behind bars, will end up doing any time themselves...? Sadly I very much doubt it. It seems criminal "justice" in the UK is only for the little people and those who can't defend themselves. It's all pretty sick tbh.
This is frightening to hear what has happened. Right cover up. People’s lives have been destroyed and some even committed suicide. Just awful. Full compensation is needed and damage costs as well. Though no amount of money can take away the awful memories of this situation. The people responsible need to be on trial and go to prison themselves. Justice is needed. No more cover up jobs.
What a brave lady. This saga is unbelievable. With so many so called thefts, anyone with half a brain should have realised there was a problem with the system and not the people.
Just think what could go wrong Globally with all the digital stuff and AI and Surveillance they want to inflict on humanity. Vile absolutely vile what they have done to these people but thank God it's all been brought into the light. No more cover up. No more corruption.
People have taken their own lives because of this, it’s heartbreaking, I don’t know who but someone needs to pay for this, financially and apologetically 😢
Absolutely sickening what happened to each of those victims . And those who spent time in jail. My heart aches for them. So sad 😢 I hope others are jailed for this. Especially as they knew there were faults in the programme . Makes me so angry . Yet that lady is so humble now and grateful after all they put her through. God bless them all.
That poor poor woman 😢, I genuinely hope that she gets a massive compensation even though no amount of money will never take back her trauma or her freedom she lost while in prison.
All the post office submasters are so dignified and articulate. They are fine people, and we knew that: the post office submaster where I live is wonderful.
true, is this happened let say in USA post office will be sued for 100s of millions by one individual only, in UK can not do it, what a disgusting low-life country
Thousands of people have been murdered by guns in the USA this year. There are more guns than citizens. Don't forget that guns were used to slaughter native American Indians,by colonial settlers.
I am appalled that the Post Office is in charge of its own Court Proceedings. There should be only one Law of the Land. I wonder what else has been covered up in the past - wrecklous behaviour towards the people of this nation
It always takes Panorama to highlight these awful issues for anything to be done. The police don’t want to incur further work, and the post office knew, but covered up.
Well done to Panorama. It is a shame that they didn't stand by the people who voted for Brexit. Sadly they have got double standards. Look at the paraphanalia they put out against Brexit. I would never trust them again.
They were awarded 41 million the lawyers deducted 31 million in fees the rest to be shared amongst 15 people, how do these people sleep at night it’s absolutely disgusting
The Post Office is acting as judge jury and police force here How can that be right ? Multiple sackings and for the Fujitsu / Senior PO staff lengthy prison sentences are the absolute minimum to expect!
So when they said others may have taken money, but they can't prove it. They searched the house because they knew the system wasn't working, and it's possible for someone to take money, so they did that to double check and sent them to prison anyway. Wow, they was treated so badly and still are. Keep it in the news until they are all paid.
The post office knew all along that no money had been taken, they're accountants would've flagged up the huge discrepancy in the post office's favour. If they didn't their accountants are either totally incompetent or they were in on it.
One is baffled! 900 persons comitting fraud? Could no-one ever look seriously at this obvious miscarriage of justice before it went to law court. Also, is it not the case that those Post Office employees had to be cleared re criminal background? What (a) idiocy, and (b) lack of logic?
Michael Keegan, whose wife Gillian is the Education Secretary, was formerly the UK chief executive and chairman of Fujitsu, whose Horizon IT system was at the heart of the baseless prosecutions of sub-postmasters over two decades. as per daily mail. Can you see how this is all connected and why people are being protected. Corruption all the way.
Watching this interview, knowing that so many innocent people have had to face such appalling consequences, has me feeling a level of total disgust. I agree with the brave and beautiful Seema - those who are responsible for engineering this appalling Cover-Up that has created so much anguish, fear, humiliation and appalling injustice MUST be punished accordingly. They are the real criminals in all this, because they KNEW the fault lay in the Computer, not with the Postmasters. There will be ‘underling’ staff, forced to lie because they were told to do so. How much of this goes on to cover up errors? Seema’s son is in for a surprise- I sincerely hope he’s able to cope, and to recognise his Mother’s immense courage.
They should all be made millionaires now and probably will if justice is served. That would be a great silver lining to a very dark cloud that was forced over these people. I hope they get everything they deserve because although compensation is not going to change the past and what these people went through, it can give them a much brighter future. The government acted monstrous, and i dont know how any of them involved can look themselves in the mirror and not feel disgust and shame.
You know the real criminals won’t go to prison they will all get away with it , how many go to prison from any inquiries it’s a total waste of time and money.
I am sure there are plenty of intelligent upstanding people in our communities that would gladly give their time to uphold the Law and where necessary convict these fraudsters in charge of the Postal Services - lets hope they can't run away and hide - I believe the evil vicar has left the Country.
Is this naïve of me? But seriously, how can the legal system be so poor that it allowed for decisions to be made that incorrectly jailed so many people where there was obviously no conclusive evidence. #1 Incompetency of tech people + fujitsu suppliers , #2 corruption of the post office leaders who knew what was going on, and #3 a broken legal system that somehow judges guilt without proving it, at scale. Neither of these 3 things should happen, but all 3 happening together in one case? This country is plummeting, the standards are so low.
I remember the Panorama broadcast, it is disgusting that it took so long for the outrage and hopefully the compensation to be public. Time for justice.
Why isnt there an independent audit body made up of public volunteers who get to be on a panel for 3 years only ? I would do my share for free. Every government department needs to be audited like this to get the 'snouts out of the trough'.
Not only the government also the judge wouldn't accept the false they made, they don't want to lose their faces, so many innocent people in her situation in the world.
Compensation should be 5 million each and a criminal investigation should be undertaken….everyone in the uk knows a public inquiry is shorthand for cover up to allow the real criminals to escape any consequences
And another thing........this has all been known about for many many years. The TV program didn't have any new evidence. So why has it only now kicked off like it should have done years ago???
This is so heartbreaking. The more i listen to these stories the more I think this amounts to a crime against humanity. People have died as a result of this scandal. This is just so evil.
Was Andrew Bridgen mentioned in ths documentary if not why fighting for these people for more than 10 years No amount of compensation can compensate this
God bless these innocent victims I hope they all get millions in compensation and a sincere apology from the government and royal family for this miscarriage of justice ❤
With the invention of the Internet you would think it would be simple to phone the NHS East Kent Area and having had your skin cancer surgery cancelled twice, be able to request to be put back on your local Hospital's list. We'll ! You get another phone number to call. Now I thought with the Internet the area for the NHS it would be possible for one hospital to look at the screen for the patient and place the person on their local Hospital's waiting list. That is all I want to do. Perhaps some person in the know could sort this out for the NHS.
The UK today and long has been, if there’s money in it for the Govt, and the post office is Govt owned, the accusation constitutes the evidence, you’re guilty before you even enter the court, it’s up to you to prove you’re innocent and no matter what you do, it will be dismissed with another accusation, and the judges are fully complicit.
Just a thought but no-one seems to have questioned.......where is the money that was supposedly stolen? There does not seem to be any evidence of actual malpractice - just a bottom line 'this amount of money is missing'. Where is it supposed to have gone? If something is done electronically there is always a digital trail. Is the finger being pointed at a Fujitsu employee accessing the subpostmaster's accounts? Is anyone interested?
So not everything from Japan is as perfect as they want to make out.. What angers me is this, the investigators should have asked themselves how can people from different and separate jurisdictions in the country are getting prosecuted for the same crime, that is what should have sent alarm bells ringing. But today nobody wants to think, common sense thinking is not encouraged anymore whatsoever, just a heavy reliance on machines that don't have common sense built into them. What a truly frightening world we live in.
Why is Fujitsu dominating UK IT Systems? ICL (International Computers Limited) existed as a commercial entity and brand from 1968 to 2002; perhaps the flagship computer manufacturer of the UK until it was finally and completely absorbed into its eventual, Japanese owner Fujitsu.
You have experienced what Black people in general are subjected to every day. As a 17 year old Black youth I was found guilty of a crime I did not commit but as I was said to have a”chip on my shoulder” I was thereby guilty. That was 51 years ago and nothing has changed
As an old white man who has been fitted up and stitched up and lied to and lied about and charged and convicted of a crime I proved I did not do and proved in court the police were lying i am sorry to say I disagree with you.
@@Noname-oo9gn Some people will always make everything about skin colour... And this commenter dares to monopolise the painful experience of this lady to try to compare it to everyday stuff that "their people" suffer on a daily basis, as if it was comparable to going to prison LOL And this commenter dares to imply that "their people" are the only ones suffering from racism. What a sad joke of a person
Time. This Tory government sat back and watched over a decade after this was exposed and did nothing. Allowed people’s wrong convictions to stand. Thank you ITV for making this drama and giving those sub postmasters the exposure they need. Time has passed, 20 years since the problems first arose, time has passed since these faults were broadcast on TV. Time has passed and will never be recovered by those convinced of crimes they didn’t commit. Time is what many inside the post office who deliberately pursued prosecutions of those they knew were innocent should be serving.
Blair was in on this from the beginning. He wanted the best Internet system ahead of other Countries- yes he got it for untold of frauds. He should have his title stripped and made to pay money to help the Subpostmasters.
I still cant even make out what has happend,Been going on for three years now,I think its worse than disgusting every one has been blamed for all this,No way,When it comes to Employment !!!!! if any one doing any thing to do with fraud or stealing,I rather there be any Evidence first,Before any thing gets taken further with any one,I had it bad on one of my old Jobs,Got accused of stealing,Got saked,It horrible really when you know full well you not done any thing wrong
Keir Starmer should not be let off from this because he himself was the head of the (CPS), Crown Prosecution Service and he would have known about the rumbling in these cases.
I’ve been saying this. If what is being talked about is true. He had a hand in prosecuting as many as 99 innocent postmasters at the CPS, yet this guy says he had nothing to do with it. I mean I thought it was strange how the nations mind was on the post office scandal and wanted to here about it in parliament yet Starmer talked about Rwanda. And if it’s true he’s involved it doesn’t surprise me how he’s want to ignore it with a ten foot pole
All charges should be nullified, all criminal records cleared and the total jail time should be given to Mrs Vennels instead. It’s one thing mistaking bad data, it’s quite another to cover up and lie to people that nobody else is having the problem. If any jury knew so many other post offices were simultaneously having the same issue right after a major system upgrade then the whole thing would have been thrown out of court as an obvious system failure.
This is not the first time of Post office has messed up the public. I took out redundancy cover with the post office which the changed the benefits radically due to 2008 financial problems. I called the Post office who sold me the policy but they refused to speak to me just telling me to call the underwriter. I called the underwriter company they just put the phone down.
'Compensation' would mean giving these people new lives in lieu of the ones that were taken from them, and that (mercenary as it might sound) requires that they receive _very_ substantial amounts of money. That, as far as is possible, should come out of the pockets of those who filled their boots while in senior positions at the P.0. (i.e. the likes of the sociopathic Paula Vennells).
All those people who told the sub-postmasters that they were the only ones experienceing problems with the computer systems need to go to prison themselves, they need to be held accountable in this way.
Something for people to consider: Anyone been called up for jury service? Several jury's found tye post masters guilty and as a result sent to prison. I have found that most people who get summoned to jury service have no qualifications and are usually the idiots of the world. Anyone else notice this?
Watching this video makes me feel angry and sad for the victims. Without evidence that the accused took the money, what right did they have to accuse them? Where did the money go? It shouldn't be difficult for them to ask themselves why they made so much profit from it. And to make matters worse, those profits have been paid to senior executives.
This is my point of view , when the computer is not working well , the postmaster concerned was to make an incident report about it to justify what’s going on the computer . Supposedly makes a daily report just in case and to cover your back in case of litigation and problem arises .
It does make you feel so ashamed to think what happened to these poor people and what they went through Then all the post office executives telling lies and taking their big bonuses disgraceful they need Jail time
For the CRIMES and The THEFT by the Post Office the entire Post Office hierarchy Must be prosecuted and the Politicians responsible for this injustice should be held to account for their behaviour.😡
Agreed, but we both know that it will never happen. Lawyers own the government and the government owns the post office.
More zionist division wake up people do some research, try who's funding NGOs like IsraAID listen to Barbara Learner Spectre watch Europa the last battle .
Bet they don’t
The people own the post office not some div's in government. It's illegal to sell it.@@Norfolkbiker50
They should, but it won't happen, in Britain it's one rule for one, a different rule for the higher up in society
How can you compensate people that are now dead? How can you compensate people that lost years of their lives; how can you compensate people that lost the respect of their community and whose children were abused!!
Brass up,the next of kin sadly , that’s all they can do short of jailing Fujitsu or Royal Mail brass for what they done
Utterly abhorrent what went on !! The people responsible need to be in jail…not these poor people
Absolutely disgusting reprehensible behaviour from all the thieves, bullies & liars on the Post Office management & 'investigation' teams. All should have to pay the victims restitution & compensation and serve prison time
@politics392 and replace them with who? It was Blair's government that awarded the contract to Fujitsu even though they already knew it wasn't fit for purpose and the current Labour leader was head of the CPS at the time and denies all knowledge of it, yeah Labour sounds like a great alternative.
In A just England they Would be Imprisoned . These Crooks Have No Morals . These Poor Imprisoned Innocent Victims
@@Norfolkbiker50 They did not know it would not work.
@@sorennilsson9742 of course they did, they were told before it went live
All the stories have been heartbreaking, and the ones involving suicides are the worst, but this is the one that really got to me when I read about it a few years ago. As a mother myself I cannot even to begin imagine what she went through. God bless her and her family. I hope she is fully compensated very soon and there are full consequences for those who put her in that position.
Poor lady. That’s awful I pray that she gets justice,
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The Post Office gangsters behind this criminality absolutely must face the full force of the law.
Yes they should be stripped of all their bonuses and prison sentences and that goes for Ed. Davies. This just goes to show that these Gongs, Peerages etc should be abolished. We need all our Parliament - House of Lords - Civil Service abolished and it all streamlined so that when a new Government is elected they bring in their own team to deal with all monies and Legalities. You can't tell me our Government didn't know about the fraud in the Post. Office.
We definitely don't want the Labour in - Blair had his hand in the debacle of the Post Office New Internet System.
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Absolutely 💯 %!! And honors stripped
@politics392it wasn’t just the Tories
An exceptionally brave and dignified lady. I wish her well and hope she can find closure.
All of those that conspired to cover up the computer shortcomings and faults who knowingly allowed innocent people to be convicted, serve prison time and continue to suffer should be prosecuted to the full and themselves be consigned to prison. It's abhorrent and disgusting what has been highlighted, especially as once the powers at be at the Post Office knew the issue they promptly decided to cover it up! It is a complete travesty and certainly should never be allowed to happen again!
And a certain PM must have known too! I’m not liking reading that so many expect ‘nothing will happen’. I think it will! It’s time for things to change - and the speed with which so much is coming to light after this brilliant and factual Drama shown has brought this massive miscarriage of Justice full on into all our lives. It doesn’t matter who’ thinks they’ve ’got away with it’, this enormous scandal can be the turning point!
Don't know how that jury can live with themselves, that poor lady.
The jury can only go by the evidence presented to them, she was tried on false evidence, the Post Office committed perjury not the jury.
Absolutely disgusting actions in the hands of the post office. Ruined peoples lives and livelihood.
This is a national disgrace and a truly shocking coverup operation by The Post Office and Fujitsu. I have to wonder if any of the higher-up from those companies, who knowingly covered up the problems while innocent people did time behind bars, will end up doing any time themselves...?
Sadly I very much doubt it. It seems criminal "justice" in the UK is only for the little people and those who can't defend themselves. It's all pretty sick tbh.
Seema is so brave . Seema is incredible. Justice for the postmasters
This is frightening to hear what has happened. Right cover up. People’s lives have been destroyed and some even committed suicide. Just awful. Full compensation is needed and damage costs as well. Though no amount of money can take away the awful memories of this situation.
The people responsible need to be on trial and go to prison themselves. Justice is needed. No more cover up jobs.
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Shocking - a story hidden away for too long. What a lovely woman, to speak so well after the horror she went through.
What a brave lady. This saga is unbelievable. With so many so called thefts, anyone with half a brain should have realised there was a problem with the system and not the people.
Just think what could go wrong Globally with all the digital stuff and AI and Surveillance they want to inflict on humanity. Vile absolutely vile what they have done to these people but thank God it's all been brought into the light. No more cover up. No more corruption.
People have taken their own lives because of this, it’s heartbreaking, I don’t know who but someone needs to pay for this, financially and apologetically 😢
My country just disgusts me.......post office, Fujitsu, MPs, Lawyers..... Et al
Sadly there is still a lot of deception, and they are covering up different things now.
Absolutely sickening what happened to each of those victims . And those who spent time in jail. My heart aches for them. So sad 😢 I hope others are jailed for this. Especially as they knew there were faults in the programme . Makes me so angry . Yet that lady is so humble now and grateful after all they put her through. God bless them all.
Wonderful lady. Such an admirable, like-able, decent, strong, courageous human being. Bless her I hope good times are ahead for her.
That poor poor woman 😢, I genuinely hope that she gets a massive compensation even though no amount of money will never take back her trauma or her freedom she lost while in prison.
The ones who had made this mistake in Post Office should be investigated and if found guilty, they need put into jail!
All the post office submasters are so dignified and articulate. They are fine people, and we knew that: the post office submaster where I live is wonderful.
This scandal is appalling.These innocent people should be paid millions back not hundreds of thousands.
true, is this happened let say in USA post office will be sued for 100s of millions by one individual only, in UK can not do it, what a disgusting low-life country
Thousands of people have been murdered by guns in the USA this year. There are more guns than citizens. Don't forget that guns were used to slaughter native American Indians,by colonial settlers.
I’m so so sorry for Seema what an ordeal very disturbing I must say well done to Panorama.
it is amazing that BBC panorama can perform a better investigation than the courts, post office & police!
And a Journalist asked probing questions that should have been asked by Ed Davey and Keir Starmer, he did his job but they failed miserably in theirs.
I am appalled that the Post Office is in charge of its own Court Proceedings. There should be only one Law of the Land. I wonder what else has been covered up in the past - wrecklous behaviour towards the people of this nation
It always takes Panorama to highlight these awful issues for anything to be done. The police don’t want to incur further work, and the post office knew, but covered up.
All government run, they never wanted an investigation, they thought they could just wing it, but they were wrong!.
Well done to Panorama. It is a shame that they didn't stand by the people who voted for Brexit. Sadly they have got double standards. Look at the paraphanalia they put out against Brexit. I would never trust them again.
She’s just lovely as lovely can be.
A jury convicted this woman. Based on what evidence?
She was convicted based on her skin colour
@@sarahchaudhry3603 bs. she was convicted because people in a position of authority made false claims. "experts". the jury listened to the "experts".
@@ge2719I agree with you but statistically ethnic minorities are given higher sentences for the same crime
On the evidence of her skin colour maybe
They were awarded 41 million the lawyers deducted 31 million in fees the rest to be shared amongst 15 people, how do these people sleep at night it’s absolutely disgusting
The Post Office is acting as judge jury and police force here How can that be right ? Multiple sackings and for the Fujitsu / Senior PO staff lengthy prison sentences are the absolute minimum to expect!
So when they said others may have taken money, but they can't prove it. They searched the house because they knew the system wasn't working, and it's possible for someone to take money, so they did that to double check and sent them to prison anyway. Wow, they was treated so badly and still are. Keep it in the news until they are all paid.
The post office knew all along that no money had been taken, they're accountants would've flagged up the huge discrepancy in the post office's favour. If they didn't their accountants are either totally incompetent or they were in on it.
One is baffled! 900 persons comitting fraud? Could no-one ever look seriously at this obvious miscarriage of justice before it went to law court. Also, is it not the case that those Post Office employees had to be cleared re criminal background? What (a) idiocy, and (b) lack of logic?
Michael Keegan, whose wife Gillian is the Education Secretary, was formerly the UK chief executive and chairman of Fujitsu, whose Horizon IT system was at the heart of the baseless prosecutions of sub-postmasters over two decades. as per daily mail. Can you see how this is all connected and why people are being protected. Corruption all the way.
Who's ever made such mistakes of accusations should face charges. The entire situation has caused innocent people lives, and ill health is unfair.
Watching this interview, knowing that so many innocent people have had to face such appalling consequences, has me feeling a level of total disgust. I agree with the brave and beautiful Seema - those who are responsible for engineering this appalling Cover-Up that has created so much anguish, fear, humiliation and appalling injustice MUST be punished accordingly. They are the real criminals in all this, because they KNEW the fault lay in the Computer, not with the Postmasters. There will be ‘underling’ staff, forced to lie because they were told to do so. How much of this goes on to cover up errors? Seema’s son is in for a surprise- I sincerely hope he’s able to cope, and to recognise his Mother’s immense courage.
They should all be made millionaires now and probably will if justice is served. That would be a great silver lining to a very dark cloud that was forced over these people. I hope they get everything they deserve because although compensation is not going to change the past and what these people went through, it can give them a much brighter future. The government acted monstrous, and i dont know how any of them involved can look themselves in the mirror and not feel disgust and shame.
You know the real criminals won’t go to prison they will all get away with it , how many go to prison from any inquiries it’s a total waste of time and money.
I am sure there are plenty of intelligent upstanding people in our communities that would gladly give their time to uphold the Law and where necessary convict these fraudsters in charge of the Postal Services - lets hope they can't run away and hide - I believe the evil vicar has left the Country.
Is this naïve of me? But seriously, how can the legal system be so poor that it allowed for decisions to be made that incorrectly jailed so many people where there was obviously no conclusive evidence. #1 Incompetency of tech people + fujitsu suppliers , #2 corruption of the post office leaders who knew what was going on, and #3 a broken legal system that somehow judges guilt without proving it, at scale. Neither of these 3 things should happen, but all 3 happening together in one case? This country is plummeting, the standards are so low.
Incompetence is rife, but what do we expect when 'excelling' is seen as anti-egalitarian?
Very brave woman, she should get an OBE.
This woman should be awarded millions 😮 I’m horrified 😮£600000 are they joking 😮
I remember the Panorama broadcast, it is disgusting that it took so long for the outrage and hopefully the compensation to be public. Time for justice.
I feel so sorry for that lady , indeed all of the victims,
And the post office tried and was successful in temporarily trying to stop this being broadcast
Why isnt there an independent audit body made up of public volunteers who get to be on a panel for 3 years only ?
I would do my share for free.
Every government department needs to be audited like this to get the 'snouts out of the trough'.
Not only the government also the judge wouldn't accept the false they made, they don't want to lose their faces, so many innocent people in her situation in the world.
Compensation should be 5 million each and a criminal investigation should be undertaken….everyone in the uk knows a public inquiry is shorthand for cover up to allow the real criminals to escape any consequences
41 million. Lawyers took 31million. The remaining 10 million will be shared between with the victims 😢
And another thing........this has all been known about for many many years. The TV program didn't have any new evidence. So why has it only now kicked off like it should have done years ago???
This is so heartbreaking. The more i listen to these stories the more I think this amounts to a crime against humanity. People have died as a result of this scandal. This is just so evil.
Its a cruel world with some very vile people who dont care about others as to whom they hurt or destroy😢
Government engineering at its worse🚸
Was Andrew Bridgen mentioned in ths documentary if not why fighting for these people for more than 10 years
No amount of compensation can compensate this
Disgusting injustice. There is more to this. Questions need to be asked.
God bless these innocent victims I hope they all get millions in compensation and a sincere apology from the government and royal family for this miscarriage of justice ❤
Fijitsu also made the CSR system for the NHS... There were some bad things going on there too.
Now you know why we have a failing NHS.
With the invention of the Internet you would think it would be simple to phone the NHS East Kent Area and having had your skin cancer surgery cancelled twice, be able to request to be put back on your local Hospital's list. We'll ! You get another phone number to call. Now I thought with the Internet the area for the NHS it would be possible for one hospital to look at the screen for the patient and place the person on their local Hospital's waiting list. That is all I want to do. Perhaps some person in the know could sort this out for the NHS.
They need to have compensation also the ones that accused them need to be put behind bars
The UK today and long has been, if there’s money in it for the Govt, and the post office is Govt owned, the accusation constitutes the evidence, you’re guilty before you even enter the court, it’s up to you to prove you’re innocent and no matter what you do, it will be dismissed with another accusation, and the judges are fully complicit.
Just a thought but no-one seems to have questioned.......where is the money that was supposedly stolen? There does not seem to be any evidence of actual malpractice - just a bottom line 'this amount of money is missing'. Where is it supposed to have gone? If something is done electronically there is always a digital trail. Is the finger being pointed at a Fujitsu employee accessing the subpostmaster's accounts? Is anyone interested?
What extra trial tests were undertaken after complaints were voiced about Horizon ?
So not everything from Japan is as perfect as they want to make out.. What angers me is this, the investigators should have asked themselves how can people from different and separate jurisdictions in the country are getting prosecuted for the same crime, that is what should have sent alarm bells ringing. But today nobody wants to think, common sense thinking is not encouraged anymore whatsoever, just a heavy reliance on machines that don't have common sense built into them. What a truly frightening world we live in.
Who concealed the graph of monthly PO sub-postmasters convictions, before and after introduction of Horizon ?
that bloke was told to say starmer not involved should be ashamed
This poor lady and all the others who were affected. Very dignified unlike all the scumbags who have lied and covered up the truth for years.
Heartbreaking
SAW THE DRAMA SERIES LAST WEEK. DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THAT BAD FOR THEM. DISGUSTED!! IN THE GOVERNMENT, POST OFFICE AND FUJITSU 🤬🤬🤬
How could we have known without the truth being told in this drama.
Poor lady lets hope she gets full compensation.
Why is Fujitsu dominating UK IT Systems? ICL (International Computers Limited) existed as a commercial entity and brand from 1968 to 2002; perhaps the flagship computer manufacturer of the UK until it was finally and completely absorbed into its eventual, Japanese owner Fujitsu.
You have experienced what Black people in general are subjected to every day. As a 17 year old Black youth I was found guilty of a crime I did not commit but as I was said to have a”chip on my shoulder” I was thereby guilty. That was 51 years ago and nothing has changed
As an old white man who has been fitted up and stitched up and lied to and lied about and charged and convicted of a crime I proved I did not do and proved in court the police were lying i am sorry to say I disagree with you.
Happens to more people then is realised, and don't matter the colour of your skin.
I am very sorry that happened to you. I agree race is often a factor
@@Noname-oo9gn Some people will always make everything about skin colour... And this commenter dares to monopolise the painful experience of this lady to try to compare it to everyday stuff that "their people" suffer on a daily basis, as if it was comparable to going to prison LOL And this commenter dares to imply that "their people" are the only ones suffering from racism. What a sad joke of a person
Even in 2015 the story was old, this all started before 2000.
Oh, I keep feeling little waves of rage on behalf of these innocent people.
This is a parallel situation to the innocent people jailed in America for January 6th debacle.
Poor woman.
The postmasters should go to court for justice and also for compensation as well!
Private prosecution.
@@spud7823 Aided and abetted by our 'independent' criminal justice system at every turn with taxpayers money.
Corporate Gaslighting: pure & Simple !
Time. This Tory government sat back and watched over a decade after this was exposed and did nothing. Allowed people’s wrong convictions to stand. Thank you ITV for making this drama and giving those sub postmasters the exposure they need. Time has passed, 20 years since the problems first arose, time has passed since these faults were broadcast on TV. Time has passed and will never be recovered by those convinced of crimes they didn’t commit. Time is what many inside the post office who deliberately pursued prosecutions of those they knew were innocent should be serving.
Blair was in on this from the beginning. He wanted the best Internet system ahead of other Countries- yes he got it for untold of frauds. He should have his title stripped and made to pay money to help the Subpostmasters.
The Post Office Managers should all spend 15 months in jail at least.
I still cant even make out what has happend,Been going on for three years now,I think its worse than disgusting every one has been blamed for all this,No way,When it comes to Employment !!!!! if any one doing any thing to do with fraud or stealing,I rather there be any Evidence first,Before any thing gets taken further with any one,I had it bad on one of my old Jobs,Got accused of stealing,Got saked,It horrible really when you know full well you not done any thing wrong
Keir Starmer should not be let off from this because he himself was the head of the (CPS), Crown Prosecution Service and he would have known about the rumbling in these cases.
The CPS deal with over 400,000 cases annually. Ed Davey however, was Post Office minister during these prosecutions. Nice try , Liz.
I’ve been saying this. If what is being talked about is true. He had a hand in prosecuting as many as 99 innocent postmasters at the CPS, yet this guy says he had nothing to do with it. I mean I thought it was strange how the nations mind was on the post office scandal and wanted to here about it in parliament yet Starmer talked about Rwanda. And if it’s true he’s involved it doesn’t surprise me how he’s want to ignore it with a ten foot pole
@@thomashowe1509 No matter who the public figures are, they are all trained professional liars.
For what shes been through no amount of money will ever compensate, the post office should pay for what they have done!!!
Justices will prevail 🙏
Don't worry about it. It builds character.
All charges should be nullified, all criminal records cleared and the total jail time should be given to Mrs Vennels instead. It’s one thing mistaking bad data, it’s quite another to cover up and lie to people that nobody else is having the problem. If any jury knew so many other post offices were simultaneously having the same issue right after a major system upgrade then the whole thing would have been thrown out of court as an obvious system failure.
This is not the first time of Post office has messed up the public. I took out redundancy cover with the post office which the changed the benefits radically due to 2008 financial problems. I called the Post office who sold me the policy but they refused to speak to me just telling me to call the underwriter. I called the underwriter company they just put the phone down.
'Compensation' would mean giving these people new lives in lieu of the ones that were taken from them, and that (mercenary as it might sound) requires that they receive _very_ substantial amounts of money. That, as far as is possible, should come out of the pockets of those who filled their boots while in senior positions at the P.0. (i.e. the likes of the sociopathic Paula Vennells).
It messes with my head to think that this has been going on for the majority of my life and I've only recently heard about it.
All those people who told the sub-postmasters that they were the only ones experienceing problems with the computer systems need to go to prison themselves, they need to be held accountable in this way.
This is absolutely scandalous. These people were innocent 😢😢.
The tax payer will settle any compensation due.
The taxpayers foot every bill.
Something for people to consider:
Anyone been called up for jury service?
Several jury's found tye post masters guilty and as a result sent to prison.
I have found that most people who get summoned to jury service have no qualifications and are usually the idiots of the world.
Anyone else notice this?
And if you have had any contact with the police and criminal justice system you will be exempt.
Disagree, what qualifications do you need to be a juror
What an absolute disgrace.
Watching this video makes me feel angry and sad for the victims. Without evidence that the accused took the money, what right did they have to accuse them? Where did the money go? It shouldn't be difficult for them to ask themselves why they made so much profit from it. And to make matters worse, those profits have been paid to senior executives.
All because she's a woman she needs to sue for damages against her, life can be very cruel 💔
People should sue the software vendor for compensation.
Fujitsu’s, Post Office managers your apologies is not enough!
Who made the decision to use It's Just You??? Now I know why we have the C word.
Deny, delay , defend
Fujitsu apologises? OK well lets see them put their money where their mouth is. People want proof of those words not verbage.
The jury should be accountable, how could they convict with no evidence? And where was the judge, asleep somewhere? Name and shame them.
Why has no one asked WHERE DID /HAS the money gone. IN SHOEBOXES. 660 x £50 000. IN SHOEBOXES.
So NO apology from Buck Palace?
After All It is THE ROYAL MAIL!
The courts sit on it. Tbey are part of the problem, these judges dont no the law.
This is my point of view , when the computer is not working well , the postmaster concerned was to make an incident report about it to justify what’s going on the computer . Supposedly makes a daily report just in case and to cover your back in case of litigation and problem arises .
It does make you feel so ashamed to think what happened to these poor people and what they went through Then all the post office executives telling lies and taking their big bonuses disgraceful they need Jail time