PMD7 737 Visual Approach Tutorial by a Real 737 Pilot
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2017
- Join me in the hold at TENDA, the IAF for RW01 into Fuerteventura (GCFV/FUE) as we fly a Visual Approach using LNAV & VNAV. This tutorial contains guidance on how we can manipulate the FMC approach to significantly shorten track miles on an existing procedure and maximise the use of automation to safely fly a visual approach.
All guidance is based on Boeing Recommendations and Real World Procedures.
The Visual Approach is based on ILS Z 01, you can find the plate here!
fly.rocketroute.com/plates/ad...
Any questions feel free to ask!
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All guidance in my tutorials are based on operating procedures from a UK operator, I have almost 4000 hours on the 737-800 (The real one) and I'm also a full-time Instructor working in a full motion Level D simulator.
I plan to make many more videos in the future so if you'd like me to recreate or explain any procedure please feel free to contact me or leave a comment on my channel.
The aim of this channel is to provide realistic, informative and useful information to help you enhance your flight simulation experience by following me apply real world operating procedures in the PMDG NGX.
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That landing made my neck hurt 😄
That's what we call a "Boeing Landing!"
For some reason it’s a good idea to flare a bit early even if you have a extremely light aircraft.
flightdeck2sim Aaahhhahaha I get it!
A visual landing with the help of VNAV and LNAV, never seen this.
Thanks !
It's the sop of a certain airline known for its legendary lasagna :D
Thanks for taking the time to put together these interesting and useful tutorials. Makes me realise how basic my current understanding of the functionality of the FMC is!!
Thanks MagyarMatt! Good knowledge of the FMC is vital in flying this aircraft efficiently!
FD2S
Love it....to build on previous comment I made recently, I've been simming almost 10 years and I'm learning more with your tutorials than any other. It's all very fast paced at times and needs to be replayed a few times but just a joy to be learning the correct procedures, beautifully produced with no huge gaps in the action. IF I had a suggestion, it would be to consider pausing briefly before or after a complex procedure (for non pilots !) to explain. For me, your tutorials are concise and professional.... you can tell I'm excited for your next video 😊
robert48tube thanks for your kind comment and feedback! You might notice with my newer tutorials I'm slightly slower paced based on similar feedback. It can be a challenge to explain what I'm doing, why and all the actions completed by both PF and PM whilst making it flow in a natural real time manner! I'm glad my tutorials are very informative for yourself, you're my exact target audience, experienced users looking to take it to the next level!
Feel free to comment/message here or on my FB page if you have any queries!
Kind Regards,
flightdeck2sim
Your a legend this is exactly the tutorial I was after as I have been struggling with landings at Samos. Thank you!
Thanks Branco!
FD2S.
Excellent tutorial mate easy to understand,and btw first like lol!
Thank you!! Your videos are helping me a lot to handle the 737 on XP10/111! Just great tutorials!
Hi Ari,
Cool! Since starting I realise now a lot of people use X-Plane 11, so much so I bought it last week! It seems like a good sim, might make some tutorials using it at some point!
FD2S
Really enjoying these & easy to follow...It helps when i'm using the NGX with Virtual Ryanair :-) keep them coming
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad my tutorials can aid with your virtual sim experience!
Thanks so much for all your hard work on these Tutorials
...You make this flying thang look real easy ..Thanks again
Thanks again! It's hard single pilot on a desktop simulator in a multi-crew aircraft with a limited field of view!
FD2S
Thanks for your great channel. I really appreciate learning how to fly the 737 from a real world 737 pilot!
Hi Tom and thanks! Welcome to my channel.
FD2S
Great video... fascinating watching a pro... always scanning and totally on top of it all.
Thanks for your feedback Travis! Hope you learnt something new!
I love these tutorials. I use x plane 11 with the zibo 737. It's not as near to real as pmdg737 but its getting there. Your tutorials literally taught me how to fly the thing. I recently switched to the a320 and have no tutorials like this. So, I'm back to 737. Keep up the good work fella.
kristian perkins thanks a lot!!
Watch Doofer911 tutorials on the A320, watch Blackbox711 on his videos on the FSLabs A320, any good addon aircraft should (and does, I've tried to use FSLabs tutorials for Aerosoft, and vice versa) be used for any other addon, so there's plenty. Just watch cold and dark videos early on, just LOOK AND REMEMBER. Then once you're familiar with the scan flows and how the systems are, then you can ask the technical questions on the IFS and WHENS... Believe me I am pretty good on the A320, so you can ask for help. I can even talk to you on Discord and show you, I would LOVE to talk about the A320 with someone who seems interested.
Don't give up on the beauty, it's an automated fancy thing. You might get bored early on, then once you understand the systems it'll feel like riding a bike, you just know where to look. It's beautiful, trust me.
Another great video! The visual approach always seems to be forgotten in tutorials
lol...love it... thought I was trapping on a carrier!
Niiiiceeeee....great video and tutorial..
flightdeck2sim That was fantastic. I was always afraid to do visual approaches when my add on ATC assigned them. The way you did it is awesome. It looks like im going to need practice. Like how you got those 4 nm green rings. It just sucks because as the simmer, we are the Captain and the First Officer so we must do everything. You did it so well because you are a Captain IRL for the Aircraft so it was a piece of cake. Thank you!
I can't claim to be a Capt just yet! I'm only an F/O and Sim Instructor I'm afraid! Thank you for your kind comments though!
Fs2crew has an add-on that essentially gives you an FO that you can communicate by voice or buttons and will interact with you like irl, you should check it out! Wouldn't fly without it
Thank you very much, sir!
You are welcome!
Great Vid. When you added Rnwy 01 with 4nm and 3 Deg GP could you use HDG/VS mode for a bit of a downwind and base and as you’re about to intercept final switch to LNav and Vnav. As well, if that’s possible will there be a GP on the screen to give you an idea of where you sit on GP while on downwind/base etc. Thanks!
I used to do IFR but i find VFR more interesting to get around on my own 😂
When you’re abeam the threshold how long do you wait before turning final? Is the a rule of thumbs here? Great video though
Which computer configuration do you use for FSX? Is it a laptop or desktop?
I live in Hong Kong and from flightradar24 it seems that all planes follow the same approach route, no matter the weather conditions, so do big airports not allow visual approach due to heavy traffic?
Hi Darwin.
Certainly in Europe at an extremely busy airport you'd be very likely denied the option of a visual approach. ATC are vectoring aircraft as efficiently as possible and at peak time an aircraft is landing at least every 90 seconds!
FD2S.
Nice videos!! can i ask you something? every time i right click the trim to increase it, it keeps going down until the plane is pointing down... how do i get the trim stucked in one number?
Hi Pasolero.
I'll try my best to answer. Try to avoid using the trim to fly the aircraft. The idea of trim is to make sure the aircraft is balanced and to place no load on the control column. Are you using a joystick?
Regards,
flightdeck2sim
How to do a full manual landing? Like when to descent, what should be vertical speed, when should we start descent. What when we have to make turns like 45 deg to line with runway. What should be vertical speed then. I want to know how to do full manual landing?
Hi Sachin
Review my “Landing Tutorial” and “Raw Data ILS Tutorial” which will provide some guidance on how to fly the last stage of the approach and land l.
FD2S
Hello ! Super Tutorial ... About Runway extension, do I have to insert 4nm or where can I find this value for each approaches ?
Hi Laurent,
For a Visual Approach you can create a point wherever you like, 4nm is a sensible distance from the threshold to allow yourself to turn onto final and be stabilised by 500ft!
Thanks, actually, I would better make visual approaches with the NG :)
Touch down at
Hi Simon!
I couldn't tell you how many FPM constitutes to a smooth landing! There is nothing more frustrating as an instructor when cadets try and pull off a smooth landing and keep pulling up during the flare!
It's worth noting if the runway is contaminated we'd actually aim for a firmer landing so we can get on the ground ASAP to deploy all the stopping forces needed on a slippery runway.
Unfortunately the general public perceive a firm landing as a bad landing or the pilots are poorly trained etc... But if I was a passenger knowing we were landing on a short runway I'd be very concerned if we were still flying passing the threshold 10 seconds previously followed by a greaser........
Glad you liked my tutorial! Quite Intensive but that is to get all the information across live time!
FD2S
flightdeck2sim 1 year late but respect.
Hi Captain!!! I would like to ask about 737. In manual flight we use the rudder pedals with yoke to turn?
Hi there!
The rudder in a 737, unlike a light aircraft, is not used to coordinate turns, we just use Aileron and Pitch to turn. The only time we use rudder is to maintain centerline during takeoff and landing, de-crab during a crosswind landing or to counteract an engine failure.
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim thanks!!!!
HI.Thanks for the video..Do you fly to Portugal??
Hi Beato,
Yes! I’ve flown into Lisbon, Porto and Faro 👍🏼
FD2S
How to decide the minimums for a visual approach? Cause this value is not published in the chart.
Any help will be appreciated.
Hi Akira.
There are no minimums for a Visual Approach. We just ensure the aircraft is fully stabilised by 500ft AAL
FD2S.
you have minimums to make sure you are visual with the runway prior to a certain altitude. To start a visual approach you have to already have visual of the runway, so there is no need for a minimum altitude.
You cannot do a visual if you are not visual with the runway / airport.
Question, In real life, does it really matters for any pilot that he make smooth touch down or bit firm? I have experienced same pilot making different touch down feel. I was talking to my friend and saying that main thing for flying is navigating it properly from point A to B but touch down feel is secondary. Touch down feel doesnt count for a pilot to be good or bad. How far my thinking is true?
Hi Kk.
Our primary aim is to conduct our operations safely. There is no priority say over en-route navigation and landing. We need to give each stage of flight utmost attention.
We prioritise
1. Aviate - Always fly the aeroplane
2. Navigate - Where are we? Are we above the MSA etc?
3. Communicate - Be it with the cabin crew/ATC, keeping all parties informed.
When it comes to landing we want safely in the touchdown zone every single time.
FD2S.
I would agree with that thinking. Navigating and getting there safely is important, but how hard your landing is does not determine if your a good or bad pilot
PS...just read you are a sim instructor; does that include teaching the public or is it only pilots ?
Just pilots for the company I work for! It's a mixture of Type Ratings, Recurrency Training, Transitional Type Rating (people joining with a different rating aka scarebus) and ground school instruction. I fly on the line for one week and then three weeks in the sim.
Why such a long extended threshold?
Is there an ILS landing tutorial?
Hi Obiadah! I actually don't have a basic ILS tutorial, most of my livestream are to an ILS so they would be helpful!
FD2S
Hi F2DS, Im looking for the video where you show how ALT INTV wipes the restrictions on the FMC. Could you point me there? Ive forgot.
Hi Kronic Gaming, explained in my Take Off tutorial.
ruclips.net/video/eI-FtpfSILo/видео.html
13 minutes in!
FD2S.
Im still confused. What does level change do?
LVL CHG in a nut shell is a pitch mode where the aircraft pitches for the speed set on the MCP in both climb and descent
FD2S
flightdeck2sim thanks!
Very nice tutorial, but RIP flare!
MintyAviation one of my first ever tutorial!!! You should see my real landings 🤗 FD2S
flightdeck2sim Haha, I’ll let you off in that case 😄
If u r air Canada pilot, U approaching visual, Finally lands at taxiway
DERP!
FD2S
Do you land with the speedbrakes deployed?
Hi ASTUESP
That is forbidden, Speedbrake must be retracted with Flaps more than 10 (F15, F25, F30, F40). Maybe company specific but certainly the rules here!
FD2S
airspeed dropped way too much on short final...
Any advice?
@@flightdeck2sim nope, just wondering why and if it's safe to do so.
@@flightdeck2sim you didn't reply
I enjoyed that -400 fpm landing
Trust me, there is a massive misconception with the general public that a smooth landing is a good landing....
Is that because, with a smooth landing, the aircraft will be light on the runway initially, meaning wind etc will effect the aircraft more? And with a harder landing you are making good contact and making sure that you are using the full weight of the aircraft to increase ground control?
I'm just theorizing here.
Not too far off nvstewart.
If you go for that "greaser" on a short runway you'll be using valuable runway where you really want to have the wheels on the ground applying brakes, reverses engaged and ground spoilers extended!
FD2S
ok cheers.
du du, windshear, windshear, windshear
Whoever came up with the FMC interface needs to burn in hell for a while.
I can't even understand how it actually ended up into planes at all.
Compare this design to CIVA INS :)) Trust me, it's really easy to understand once you learned what everything does.