Louie Bellson on Johnny Carson
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2014
- Two great clips of Louie on the Tonight Show. From the video collection of Rocky Neill, who has the priviledge of owning the drumset that Louie is playing in the first segment. If you're interested in private drum lessons in the Kansas City area, please contact Rocky at rocky.neill@hotmail.com Thank you.
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One of the greatest drummers of all time in my opinion.
More than that, definitely the *classiest* drummer ever.
I have always thought the same thing especially since his drum set was huge compared to Buddy Rich's. LOL.
I met Louie in Toronto, what a drummer and gentleman, He got a five minute ovation
Bellson was so good. Love everything I've heard of his. Totally underrated, and I believe, the first significant drummer to use two bass drums.
And there was me thinking two kicks were an '80s rock invention...should have known a jazzer was there first!
not underrated at all... but i understand, somebody has to make this comment on every video,
someone or something is always underrated !
You are correct. LB was the first to use two bass drums - all the way back in 1949 (I believe). But definitely the first major player to use this kind of setup.
@@dwftube Louie gave Nick Menza (Megadeth) his first double bass drum. Don Menza, Nick's dad, was Louie's lead tenor sax for years.
A master drummer and a TRUE gentleman!
I love old clips like this. LB is up there with the greats, no doubt about it.
A man with a huge talent and the gift of giving. Everyone loved him. His passion for music and willingness to help others was without peer. RIP Louie. I hope you're jammin' with Buddy.
i love the way he comes on in a suit, totally rocks it and doesn't even break sweat.
Thanks to Johnny Carson and the Tonight Show I was able to get hip to the great talent of Buddy Rich,
Louie Bellson and Ed Shaughnessy.
Why do people have to automatically compare Louie to Buddy Rich? Buddy was one of a kind & so was Louie. They had their own special set of tricks they used. Buddy could do amazing things with his left hand & so could Louie.
Always said the secret weapon to these classic drummers is the left hand. Louie was amazing!
He brought the double bass to drumming in 1939.
he was really old when he played on the tonight show
Yes! The original...this was late 80's.
Louie's drumming could always put a smile on my face 😊
That is world class drumming.
Louie was 65 here , and still smoking !
He was one of my most favorite drummers!He still is!
in 1986 I was working at Dicenso's drum shop in Quincy mass when Louie walked in.......what a great guy,,,,,,,,never forget that day
Louie was one of Buddy Rich's favorite drummers.
I'm tired just watching him LOL AWESOME!
10:05 I love this camera shot. The camera operator was a pro!
Don't forget Joe Morello when talking about the greats. His solos were in my opinion the most swingin'!
John Flock Joe’s solos always never lost the feel of the song he was soloing in. Whether it was St. Louis Blues, take five, Castilian Blues (which was a feature for him) or anything else joe always soloed in whatever the time signature was. He always played it as an extension of the song rather than just a random solo. He is my favorite of all time.
I agree about Morello. He was usually more musical than Rich's typical balls-to-the-wall style (not to knock Buddy - his left hand was amazing).
My parents saw many big bands in the '50s (rock 'n roll wasn't lost on them either....)
Joe Morello is a name I heard many, many times- they could not compliment him enough !!
And I think my Dad would've MARRIED Paul Desmond if he could've !!!
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Morello and Bellson were two very musical drummers and two of the very best imho.
Great drummer and gentlemen.
Love the bass line that kicks in @1:06....
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I Love Louie!
and at the end of this whole video, two geniuses sat by each other. Louie and Dudley. Both masters in their crafts. And of course adding a 3rd, Johnny! Always the master of ceremonies, as it were. Ed, Well, Ed was there, too. That right hand man and spokesperson, sometimes show host, whose voice many of us will just never get out of our heads. Especially with the old Publisher's commercials. Rest in peace, all of you guys. All gone now.
Man this is good. What a break from today's stuff.
A GENIUS ! great master !
Louie was 68 yrs old. That new wife looked about 40 yrs old. Good for him.
Lots of arguing over who was better or faster or more "Musical" To me drums are NOT a musical item, but an instrument. Now I think what the best way to describe Rich,Bellson and Krupa would be it to simply state each was Great in their own unique way. I mean they were all great, just in their own way.
Bellson was picked out of 70,000 drummers and won the Krupa Worldwide Drums contest attended by all of the top drummer in the world. So he was the best.
Formidabile drummer !
The move at 3:11 going from matched to traditional grip in a flash...so goddamn cool. I was a mere lad of 11 or 12 when the 1st clip aired, I had begun playing snare drum in the 6th grade the year before and between learning drum rudiments I always looked at TV Guide or stayed up until 11:30P to see if a drummer was going to be on Carson. Just my opinion, Buddy was of course faster & had that other gear than most drummers in his genre, but Bellson was more musical. He played the SONG not a continuous quasi drum solo with a chart in the background. Sometimes Rich would just blow over a sax solo and I'd think "Man, let the cat get his 16 and then go apeshit" but Buddy would be doing some lift off stuff in the 10th measure. I dug Bellson's soloing too, very melodic and full of motifs, not just lightning snare work.
El mejor baterista de todos los tiempos ,,,,mejor que geene grupa y budy richi.
And that's how it's done.
Thank God this is not lost in the annals of time! Used to stay up late to watch, Buddy rich, but wasn’t able to catch Bellson . I always dug is double bass approach and had double bass for many years. The curious thing about music today is the guys back then did jazz and rock & did it so well that it can’t be replicated without sounding second rate. I mean, it just sounds like a replication, not original like this was! There are great musicians kicking around nowadays, but I think the days of great bands are over! Partly due to the nature of the Internet, which gives us a lot of great memories, but it has a lot to do with the listening audience. One things for sure, there were no slouches back then!😊
Original Air Dates:
Clip #1 November 22, 1990
Clip #2 February 19, 1992
Legend! Buddy and Bellson My favorites.
Playing in a very nice suit, things had a sense of class then that seem to be missing today.
suit = musical class...Okay then. lol
4:30 EPIC!
Louie Bellson likes black women, good for him. RIP Pearl Bailey. I just wish she would have had her heart checked periodically, she would have lived beyond 1990 for sure. Pearl Bailey was one of a kind.
Serious drumming skills.
Dracula on drums, OUTSTANDING!!
Louie I think I could sit and talk , Buddy no way the man was on a level that even god looked up to, I have studied Buddy for 50 years he terrifies me
awesome solos!
I know that Louie Bellson and Buddy Rich were friends, and Buddy bows to nobody.
However, whenever Louie and Buddy would get together for their “Drum Battles” on Johnny Carson, I noticed that Buddy would up his game as Louie clearly pushed him to be even better, if that’s possible.
Now, Buddy would come out on top, but ever-so-slightly, indicating that Louie was not really that far behind.
so amazing. Does anyone know if Louie's Remos were those "acousticon" shells? I love how his drums sound
Demonic Sweaters I think Steve Maxwell did something like that. I believe they are Rene Acousticon shells.
i sold them for years. They kind of sounded horrible most times. No clarity. Muddy. He later went to the "clip on heads" . He used that in a teaching video.
Louis did a drum clinic in London in the 1960s, it was at the Conway hall in Holborn, it was a great show to a packed audience, I remember Phil Seaman coming into the hall and making a racket by getting very vocal, I think he was drunk, he had to be quitened down as Louis was talking at the time and it was a bit disrespectful.
It's a shame he doesn't get the credit like Buddy Rich does
Es un monstruo...
Fukin A wow!
Peter Christlieb on the first sax solo.
Fucking awesome!
huge influence on Billy Cobham
I wonder what Louie's favourite drums were. He played so many different brands .
Buddy Rich was the same , but maintained Slingerland was his favourite.
Gene Krupa always stayed with Slingerland.
These days so many name drummers are using DW.
LAS MANOS MANOS MAS IMPRESIONANTES QUE HE VISTO Y EL VOCABULARIO MAS AMPLIO LO TENIA LOUIS BELLSON
I have a picture of me with louie.............looks like this drumset....at a clinic I attended
they both recorded Time Check and Wind Machine. Listen. Thats the true test, not drum battles consisting of chops.
Most drummers from the golden era of drummers, didn’t use the big kits like Louie did.
That’s more a thing today.
TUNE FULL PLAYING
Louie and Buddy had a lot in common....they both played a lot of different brands.
Gene Krupa stayed with Slingerland.
Buddy will always be my favourite , as the best.
What year was that? They already have the CDs!
Thats up tempo, Louis is the greatest Big band drummer in my view .
LOUIS BELLSON Y BODY RICH TENIAN LA MISMA TECNICA SOBRE EL REDOBLAMTE
Big 4: Rich, Krupa, Bellson, Shaughnessy
Belson doesn't get nearly the respect and recognition he deserves......I'll take him over Rich any day and twice on Sunday 😮
He’s almost as good as Buddy. Who else can you say that about?
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Rich always gets more credit than Bellson--but Bellson was always a much more musical drummer.
Totally disagree.....think Buddy was more musical...Louie always seemed stiffer.
Louie had a lighter touch and would flow more with the music. I loved Buddy--cried the day he died--but he crowded the song. His musicians will tell you that.
Andy Martin I've always said that Buddy burned and Gene swings but Louie could PLAY.
I agree with you. I like Louie's style much better than Rich. I also like Louie's sound better. I like the way he tunes his drums. Rich's drums has a deader sound. I am a professional drummer, guitarist and singer.
More musical? How so? I thought the opposite when I just watched this and another Bellson performance. Buddy had a much better groove when playing with the band but even his solos were better. Louie always seems to just do a shtick: hit a lot of cymbals and try to use the double bass drums and make as much sound as possible and hit as many drums but not much rhythmic inventiveness at all compared to most jazz drummers.
HE GAVE Sammy davis His gold plated set That Now Steve Maxwell Has
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Bellson smiles, wasn't an A-Hole, and lays it down. Better than Rich IMO.
Smiling doesn't make you a great drummer. Rich ate his lunch hands down. Loui was good; really good; Rich was on another level.
@@spercoco is an idiot
@@markmoon1237 Needs to grow some ears and also learn a thing or two about drumming before he opens his mouth and calls someone else an idiot when clearly he is a fucking moron.
Louie was ten times the guy that Buddy was. He'd sign autographs he was generally a great guy.. Buddy was so moody and unapproachable. I played jazz drums in high school and college and had the opportunity to meet both. Both equally great drummers, for humanity it's Louie by far.
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louis bellson was so much more inovative than buddy rich
I agree,Louie's solos were a lot more musical than Buddys,I saw him when he came to N.Z,such a humble man.
He sounds like he could have drummed for WASP
A lot of top drummers in that era, including Louie , but Buddy was in a different class and only needed 4 drums.
Bellson used more Tom’s because he was a more melodic drummer.
Louie was great and very musical but Buddy had a different way of driving a band....ask Don Menza, who had the privilege to play with both legends! He clearly said that Buddy was both superior drummer and band leader!
Louie is one of my all time favorite drummers, but this 'tin can' sounding set of Remo drums is painful to listen to.
And he didn't loose his wig..lol
He was good, but no Buddy Rich...then no one is.
Remo drums sound cheap. This guy's first double kick set was Gretch. What the hell was he thinking Remo cardboard drums.
LOuie himself was great but it is wasted by the terrible meaningless 60's / 70's big band arrangements noisy, just noisy, no swing
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