Patch/microstrip antennas have around a lot longer than Nokia's use of them. They started their life on mostly military equipment, such as fighter jet radar, because of high price/difficulty of manufacturing them. The advantage was that the antenna did not extend from the airplane body, therefore reducing the radar cross section (what other radar's can pick up on). I originally learned about them in an antenna design class in college almost 30 years ago.
I think I still remember Nextel phones with antennas back in the day. I was born in 2001 by the way. My dad had Nextel way back then and I remember the reception was always better when the antenna was on the phone pulled out. However he frequently broke the antennas and the reception went from mediocre to horrible. Nextel wasn’t perfect in my area if I remember correctly, but many of the carriers had dead zones back then.
The fractal antennas use inductance to fake a shorter antenna element to work like a longer one. There are times you would be better off with a full quarter-wave dipole, but you no longer have that choice.
My last non-smartphone had a hidden telescopic antenna you could pull out if you had no signal. I was the one that always had signal when nobody else did. I kind of wish some phones still offered that. Maybe like on the occasional rugged model that comes out for the outdoorsman.
It was the LG Voyager. It also shot some pretty good video, unlike the iPhone 2G and 3G. Which also got me thinking, if they’re making a motomod to upgrade to 5G, why don’t they make an antenna mod that has a 7” telescope antenna and a stronger signal processor?
You don't necessarily need it, if you've got a bluetooth headset, you can just set the phone on whatever large metallic object you find. I find that metal window frames work great as they're both near the outside and next to a massive antenna. For some devices, teh headphone jack will be wired to use it as an antenna when there's something plugged in. You don't see it anymore, at least not that I've noticed, but there was a period of time when there was an antenna jack inside the back of the case that you could use to attach a powerful antenna if you really needed to. Obviously, you couldn't do that and move around a lot,.
I remember the pull up antenna... it would work with it down, but in the poorest spots, pulling the antenna up gave it a huge advantage over many other phones with concealed or stub antennas - the network used both bands, so I guess with the antenna up, it could do better on the low band signal
Correction at 1:30 in 2009 the United States added 700-800 MHz into the cellar band, replacing TV channels 52-69, although some low power Analog TV stations were still on the air on these channels after 2009
0xygenIsOverRated they think you are “trolling” or “playing around” but we know the truth. I know the truth about everything nasa is lying to us. Satellite phones don’t exist because the Earth is flat, NASA made it all up to deceive us and steal our precious V-bucks. I LOVE MY V-BUCKS!!!!
Antenna size is also related to bandwidth, distance and transmission power. A GPS doesn’t need a big antenna to get signals. A satellite phone has to project commas up into orbit while cell phones maybe only need to reach a few miles. Part of why antennas were needed on older cell phones is so they could reach out farther to the fewer number of cell towers in operation compared to today.
I'm just gonna throw this one out there...but anyone that really thinks the earth is flat still in the year 2019 is the dumbest person alive. Let's not be morons people
But satellite phones are not cell phones, they are more like Radio phones, the predecessor of cellular phones. Last I checked you can still find rural parts of the world that use radio phones, though in the satellite phone is more common in really remote areas as it doesn’t require any ground receiving antenna like a radio phone. The radio phone has an external antenna because radio phones use a central receiving tower that covers a large area rather then the many smaller cell towers used in modern cellular networks. This makes a radio phone network easier to setup in rural areas over cellular technology but with the downside being far less capacity then a cellular network. Satellite phones suffer from high call costs but if your out in the middle of nowhere then it’s better then not having any way to call for help in an emergency.
That was actually a thing on many smartphones until recently. I believe every WM2003 through WP7 device had a small rubber stopper you could pull off revealing a micro antenna jack, that you could get an antenna for. As did many early Android phones, and tons of Blackberry and Symbian devices. I used to have a windshield glass mounted one until they did away with the ability to do that anymore, I think my HTC Trophy was the last one to support it with the back still on, and a couple of the early Lumias had it but you had to pull the back off of the device to access it. Saved my bacon a few times. It's really been the iPhone sleekness pressure that has done away with it, though I hear that a few of the ruggedized DeWalt/Caterpillar type phones still have it.
Only if your phone doesn’t have a built in FM antenna. Which there’s no reason a phone shouldn’t, they aren’t expensive to manufacture and they don’t take up much space.
Still a click bait title because it's a leading statement forcing the reader to answer the missing information by watching the video. Although, it's not a MISLEADING clickbait title like before. (I hate clickbait in any fashion, can't you tell?)
@@umbra1016 Maybe its because I understood the statement when combined with the thumbnail , I failed to realized its still click bait lol Yeah, still room to improve
Where's the problem with this title? It is like an opening question in a lecture that's going to get answered. As long as it is relevant to the topic, and in this case it is the essential question, I don't see any problems.
Video suggestion: with hundreds or even thousands of phones connecting to a single cell tower, why don't the signals cancel each other out and how does the receiver in the cell tower determine which radio wave is coming from which phone? Would be interesting to learn about how the connection between a cell phone and the tower works (above questions, rate of errors signals, etc.).
And in a lot of smart phones, there is more than 1 receiver since not only the antenna for the phone. But they also have to be able to transmit and receive WiFi and Bluetooth signals as well as GPS signals. And some also have an FM radio in them. But you usually have to connect a set of earbuds or headphones to them to receive it because the earbud or headphone wire acts as the antenna for that. Hey Techquickie, how does a cellphone receive all of these different signals? Through 1 antenna or is there an antenna inside for each bandwidth?
Another thing most people don't know is some of the antennas on the old phones were fake. The design of an antenna was not needed on some of the phones but people didn't think a phone without an antenna would work as good so they added a fake plastic antenna for psychological affect. I used to work in the biz acquiring locations for cell towers and was talking to an engineer on the project and he had a book that told which phone had working or fake antennas.
Being a significantly lower frequency explains also why you need wired headphones to use the FM chip in a phone. On the headphone wires is used for the antenna. In the pre police scanner days one would use a multi band radio to listen to police and fire calls. We would look at the length of a police car antenna to figure if they were on VHF low, VHF high bands or UHF. Shorter antenna = higher band. It's also why UHF elements were the relatively small circular element and the VHF elements were the longer rods. on TV set top antennas.
The antennas they use now are half or quarter wave antennas, or on the fancy phones like Samsung's with the Qualcomm Snapdragon chip, a series of fractal antennas that can use standing waves to boost the power in an arbitrary direction towards the tower and focus in on it as well.
The phones with antennas used an analog cell phone system which shut down in 2008. That system had a much longer range per cell but required much higher power. I remember that if you put an analog cell phone up to your face you'd get an instant headache.
Hi Linus. You should have seen the UK Post Office 'Radiophone 4'. Occupied the entire car trunk/boot. Even had a dial to make calls with, no need for the manual board operator. Worked in London only. BobUK (Yup, I'm VERY old!).
There is still a trade off. It was allways known how to make small antennas, but they are fundementally less efficient. As networks improved the coverage of cell phone masts it became possible for manufacturers to trade off a bit of performance for style. Additionally design and simulation tools got better that enabled them to have more complex antenna designs that narrowed the gap. Modern phones now have a huge number of antenna to support MIMO modes and additional frequency bands. 5G on phones will probably still use the same sub 6GHz antennas for a long while. The higher frequency mm-wave antenna require beamforming antenna arrays to combat the larger propagation loss. It will be very challenging to fit these in a handset and deal with the vagaries of hands getting in the way. Mm-wave acts more like visible light and is stopped by most materials.
I remember the iPhone 4 had a bug where the metal rim on the outside of the phone was part of the antenna but if you held it wrong you tanked your signal strength. They were able to fix the problem with a software patch, but it shows what they were doing with antennas at the time.
Half true Linus. Its actually the higher proliferation of Cell-towers that we have now compared to the 90's that is the main cause. there are simply more stronger signals around now because your more likely close a cell-tower, thus they can use such antenna. just remember that while you can fold an antenna as you describe, it loses gain doing its space saving trick
My Motorola StarTac, Blue, main battery, backpack battery, PIM with battery, and a 1/16th wave antenna about 2.5 inches you pulled out Digital CDMA when I lived in Seattle, digital phones were just coming out, and I just loved it and miss it
My Sharp Aquos phones of varying models from 2012 till 2014 has an antenna that you can pull out, which is mainly used to tune in to analog and/or digital TV services... Surprisingly, raising these antenna when in a building when reception is poor on other phones does the trick to boost 3G and 4G reception, so I can't say those antenna are only for the TV function, I can still do calls, send SMS (yes I still use this) and chat through WhatsApp Telegram and everything else when everyone else using common phones are just shaking or twirling their phones just to get cellular reception...
The 2016 LG K8 has metal around the battery (for its internal antenna) and the 2017 does too but it's a ribon cable (and a regular metal one [like the 2016 K8] for its F.M radio)
I remember when we were actually getting larger third-party antennas back in the late '90s because they had LEDs in them. When you got a call, the antenna would start flashing even before the phone rang. LOL, but if you were talking on your phone in the car at night, the whole roof inside would be flashing like a rave :-p
Old enough to remember Motorola Dynatac phones. We never had one but I do remember one of my aunts had a car phone. Thought it was the most amazing thing in the world.
The first mobile I got with no antenna was a Nokia 3210 in 1999 and that thing just blew me away! Sleek, sexy, snake and no Antenna...What more would you ever need!
The whole ability to shrink antennas and print them as shapes was predicated on the fact that they were shaped as fractals. Self-similar shapes made for excellent antennas. All printed antnennas have some fractal component. This makes the antennas more sensitive to the specific wavelength(s) it was designed for.
Do you have wifi? have you been to a place that has wifi? Wifi already uses 5GHz. The energy transferred by a data connection is so small, it can't cause any harm to us.
Seeing how high end(material wise) phone cases are made would be cool to see, along with the tech that’s in them etc... UAG, Speck, Spigen, X-Doria, Griffin, Otterbox, etc.... Something we use daily & some are pretty insane as far as materials used & how there "woven" together to get the strength needed for say a 10 foot drop 😆 Cheers✌🏻
I recall watching my teenage son walk around with his antennae phone, I noticed when he turned away from me it looked like he had an antennae sticking out of his head. He appeared to be like Uncle Martin of my favorite Martian TV show, which made be laugh every time. The son was like, "Dad are you getting senile?"
Hey! I'm a radio amateur, and I do some things in 160m band, radiotelegraphy for example. One day i tried to make a 160m band dipole antenna, it is like 80m long!
I recommend the HD 650. They are open, and they require that you can boost the bass if you want. They are not bass friendly, but they are like Angels in the mids and highs. I used HD 598 before and the 650 is even sharper on the mids, It was painfull for me.
It was only in the North America. I have never had a phone with an external antenna and my first was Nokia 3210 (aka snow shovel or countdown). Modern phones also use the same frequencies. Mine goes as low as 700 MHz and as high as 2300 MHz.
We will see a comeback for antennas in the IoT space ;) Most IoT devices work on ISM bands. To increase the range they can operate in, you are only able to use a better antenna. You cannot boost the signal by increasing the power. This is not allowed. I love my directional antennas :)
Dude, I remember case mods and antenna mods with LEDs and all kinds of stuff... Them phones were so bulky there was no problems with dropping either...
Starting to see it on cars my 2014 Mazda 3 has the radio antennas printed on the back window above the heat tape so there a 4" strip that doesn't get defrosted on the top
Metal plate on the back makes the connection better? So what about every single phone with a glass back? Worse connection? (cuz of the wireless charging)
I used to have a Filipino Starmobile smartphone that had a retractable antenna. Yeah, I never really used that phone. The antenna TV and FM radio functions were cool though.
My understanding (from having listened to someone who'd worked at a phone manufacturer) is that they kept the phone antennas (at least on the American market) because Americans didn't trust phones with internal antennas, even if they were as good.
When there was still an external antenna,you could watch 2g video with only a little buffering,and 3g video with little to no buffering. Now its almost impossible to watch any video in 3g or low quality 4g without serious buffering. Now they have 5g coming out when they don't even have the bugs worked out of 4g.
My dad actually worked for Nokia's R&D on that printed antenna, they put a lot of money into developing that tech. The company literally changed the whole world with that invention on a scale that Apple couldn't even dream of. It was an actual technological revolution, not just a well-executed marketing campaign. Sad to see them flop just like that.
Hey, could you do a video explaining how smartphone manufacturers like Motorola decide which phone models to bring to individual markets? For Example, Motorola released the Moto G7 Power internationally with 4GB RAM + 64GB storage, with three colors to choose from, but only a single color and 3+32GB model in the United States. For the life of me, I can't figure out why they would limit choice to that extent, when every other market launched with both variants. Is it based on sales?
Okay, let's try identifying the 0:14... Oof. Ericsson for sure, looks a bit like T28, but I think it's not. Then Siemens C45, dunno (some Motorolla?), Siemens M65, Siemens A50 and Siemens C25. Heavy Siemens bias here, which I fully support :D
I remember taking my old school Nokia to the mall and having this cute guy install one of those flashing antennas onto it at one of those kiosks, so that it flashed whenever I made a call or got a text.
You never mentioned that a large majority of older phones with no antenna still came with the option to add one through an expansion port with a I think MCX adapter? Could be wrong.
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I'm always reading comments while the sponsor spot is running.
Same
Daniel Kröber I just skip it
you nailed it bro
I just stop the video
I up the play speed to 2 times, and mute while surfing the comments. That way Linus still gets credit for the sponsor, and I get to comment surf.
- wiggle your antenna until the problem goes away..
- five to seven inches..
This is one extra meaty video.
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@@devin1234 i mean the acronym is F.A.P
That's the most professional looking thumbnail I ever seen.
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Who says a thumbnail has to be professional.
@@alanl9497 Yep true lol
Hey looks like something I'd just about be able to do
The thumbnail is a typical clickbait thumbnail.
As a Amateur (ham) radio operator, I can say I appreciate Linus’ explanation of wavelength!!
Same ... I was surprised when he got 11m correct.
Patch/microstrip antennas have around a lot longer than Nokia's use of them. They started their life on mostly military equipment, such as fighter jet radar, because of high price/difficulty of manufacturing them. The advantage was that the antenna did not extend from the airplane body, therefore reducing the radar cross section (what other radar's can pick up on). I originally learned about them in an antenna design class in college almost 30 years ago.
I think I still remember Nextel phones with antennas back in the day. I was born in 2001 by the way. My dad had Nextel way back then and I remember the reception was always better when the antenna was on the phone pulled out. However he frequently broke the antennas and the reception went from mediocre to horrible. Nextel wasn’t perfect in my area if I remember correctly, but many of the carriers had dead zones back then.
The fractal antennas use inductance to fake a shorter antenna element to work like a longer one. There are times you would be better off with a full quarter-wave dipole, but you no longer have that choice.
This explains why FM radio apps ask you to use head phones to act as an antenna.
Deoxal yep that’s what the iPod nano does
My last non-smartphone had a hidden telescopic antenna you could pull out if you had no signal. I was the one that always had signal when nobody else did. I kind of wish some phones still offered that. Maybe like on the occasional rugged model that comes out for the outdoorsman.
I also had this Rocker brand slider phone with a telescopic antenna.....you could also move it in any direction.
It was the LG Voyager. It also shot some pretty good video, unlike the iPhone 2G and 3G. Which also got me thinking, if they’re making a motomod to upgrade to 5G, why don’t they make an antenna mod that has a 7” telescope antenna and a stronger signal processor?
AZREDFERN it is a smart phone
I'm sure someone probably is already making a USB-C antenna
You don't necessarily need it, if you've got a bluetooth headset, you can just set the phone on whatever large metallic object you find. I find that metal window frames work great as they're both near the outside and next to a massive antenna.
For some devices, teh headphone jack will be wired to use it as an antenna when there's something plugged in.
You don't see it anymore, at least not that I've noticed, but there was a period of time when there was an antenna jack inside the back of the case that you could use to attach a powerful antenna if you really needed to. Obviously, you couldn't do that and move around a lot,.
I remember the pull up antenna... it would work with it down, but in the poorest spots, pulling the antenna up gave it a huge advantage over many other phones with concealed or stub antennas - the network used both bands, so I guess with the antenna up, it could do better on the low band signal
Sticking out Antennas are ugly so it is fantastic they no longer exist
Correction at 1:30 in 2009 the United States added 700-800 MHz into the cellar band, replacing TV channels 52-69, although some low power Analog TV stations were still on the air on these channels after 2009
Techquickie "wiggle it around till the problem goes away".... giggity
"This is what electronics looked like in the 90's" Shows a relatively common power supply design for a TV.
just desoldered all the components on one such design. they are still quite relevant especially those juicy capacitors :)
How many others saw Linus spit around the 3:10 mark? ;)
How can you miss that? That spit was massive!
Literally scrolled down the moment I saw it, just to see if someone else saw it. A+ didn't disappoint.
same
I was like "Eew, say it don't spray it".
When he said "lasted" the spit went to the bottom right.
You have to admire the fact Linus picked a hair style when he was 9 and stuck with it. Dedication.
Not entirely true: satellite phones all still have antennas.
0xygenIsOverRated lol
0xygenIsOverRated they think you are “trolling” or “playing around” but we know the truth. I know the truth about everything nasa is lying to us. Satellite phones don’t exist because the Earth is flat, NASA made it all up to deceive us and steal our precious V-bucks. I LOVE MY V-BUCKS!!!!
Antenna size is also related to bandwidth, distance and transmission power. A GPS doesn’t need a big antenna to get signals. A satellite phone has to project commas up into orbit while cell phones maybe only need to reach a few miles. Part of why antennas were needed on older cell phones is so they could reach out farther to the fewer number of cell towers in operation compared to today.
I'm just gonna throw this one out there...but anyone that really thinks the earth is flat still in the year 2019 is the dumbest person alive. Let's not be morons people
But satellite phones are not cell phones, they are more like Radio phones, the predecessor of cellular phones. Last I checked you can still find rural parts of the world that use radio phones, though in the satellite phone is more common in really remote areas as it doesn’t require any ground receiving antenna like a radio phone. The radio phone has an external antenna because radio phones use a central receiving tower that covers a large area rather then the many smaller cell towers used in modern cellular networks. This makes a radio phone network easier to setup in rural areas over cellular technology but with the downside being far less capacity then a cellular network. Satellite phones suffer from high call costs but if your out in the middle of nowhere then it’s better then not having any way to call for help in an emergency.
Sometimes I would love a extra antenna that you can plug in your phone for better signal
That was actually a thing on many smartphones until recently. I believe every WM2003 through WP7 device had a small rubber stopper you could pull off revealing a micro antenna jack, that you could get an antenna for. As did many early Android phones, and tons of Blackberry and Symbian devices. I used to have a windshield glass mounted one until they did away with the ability to do that anymore, I think my HTC Trophy was the last one to support it with the back still on, and a couple of the early Lumias had it but you had to pull the back off of the device to access it. Saved my bacon a few times.
It's really been the iPhone sleekness pressure that has done away with it, though I hear that a few of the ruggedized DeWalt/Caterpillar type phones still have it.
Remember that you need wired headphones to use FM radio
I mean, most modern phones today still have this lol
@@potato_x69 You sure about that? My 2016 flagship V20 has it, and afaik the S9 and S10 have FM
Only if your phone doesn’t have a built in FM antenna. Which there’s no reason a phone shouldn’t, they aren’t expensive to manufacture and they don’t take up much space.
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That new Energizer BRICK of an android phone doesnt have a earphone jack but has fm radio how does that work??
5:00 Completely agreed with you Linus.
3:10 "So this paradigm has las💦ted into the modern age"
Finally, Techquickie use non click bait title
Still a click bait title because it's a leading statement forcing the reader to answer the missing information by watching the video. Although, it's not a MISLEADING clickbait title like before. (I hate clickbait in any fashion, can't you tell?)
@@umbra1016 Maybe its because I understood the statement when combined with the thumbnail , I failed to realized its still click bait lol
Yeah, still room to improve
Where's the problem with this title? It is like an opening question in a lecture that's going to get answered. As long as it is relevant to the topic, and in this case it is the essential question, I don't see any problems.
@@jayhill2193 I never said there was a "problem" per se, just that it's still considered a clickbait title.
For the 13 years I have i never watched a channel that is very good explaining every question that I hace. Thanks Linus
0:16 We had that Ericson and Sagem at our homes back then. It was mindblowing to be able to walk and talk.
Video suggestion: with hundreds or even thousands of phones connecting to a single cell tower, why don't the signals cancel each other out and how does the receiver in the cell tower determine which radio wave is coming from which phone? Would be interesting to learn about how the connection between a cell phone and the tower works (above questions, rate of errors signals, etc.).
Techquickie Answers the questions you never knew you wanted an answer to
The antenna's there, you're just holding it wrong.
Well played
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LMAO
LMAO
Steve is that you?
3:54 correction:more room
Can you guys do a Techquickie episode on why RUclips channels capitalise RANDOM words in their titles?
That's just cause they're annoying.
That would be an interesting video for them to do.
This reminds me of the camera problem we have with making a phone truly bezel less
Wish they made a phone without FF camera... I Never take selfies
@@-joo3033 same
@@-joo3033 They wont. IN other news, I wish Samsung bring the under-display camera tech sooner.
We still do technically have antennas on our phones.
yeah
IKR
@@Windo0ows why aren't you upgraded to windows 10 yet?!?!?
@@thepiotug because windows xp is superior to all other windows
remove the technically
And in a lot of smart phones, there is more than 1 receiver since not only the antenna for the phone. But they also have to be able to transmit and receive WiFi and Bluetooth signals as well as GPS signals. And some also have an FM radio in them. But you usually have to connect a set of earbuds or headphones to them to receive it because the earbud or headphone wire acts as the antenna for that.
Hey Techquickie, how does a cellphone receive all of these different signals? Through 1 antenna or is there an antenna inside for each bandwidth?
Another thing most people don't know is some of the antennas on the old phones were fake. The design of an antenna was not needed on some of the phones but people didn't think a phone without an antenna would work as good so they added a fake plastic antenna for psychological affect.
I used to work in the biz acquiring locations for cell towers and was talking to an engineer on the project and he had a book that told which phone had working or fake antennas.
Being a significantly lower frequency explains also why you need wired headphones to use the FM chip in a phone. On the headphone wires is used for the antenna. In the pre police scanner days one would use a multi band radio to listen to police and fire calls. We would look at the length of a police car antenna to figure if they were on VHF low, VHF high bands or UHF. Shorter antenna = higher band. It's also why UHF elements were the relatively small circular element and the VHF elements were the longer rods. on TV set top antennas.
The antennas they use now are half or quarter wave antennas, or on the fancy phones like Samsung's with the Qualcomm Snapdragon chip, a series of fractal antennas that can use standing waves to boost the power in an arbitrary direction towards the tower and focus in on it as well.
The phones with antennas used an analog cell phone system which shut down in 2008. That system had a much longer range per cell but required much higher power. I remember that if you put an analog cell phone up to your face you'd get an instant headache.
Hi Linus. You should have seen the UK Post Office 'Radiophone 4'. Occupied the entire car trunk/boot. Even had a dial to make calls with, no need for the manual board operator. Worked in London only. BobUK (Yup, I'm VERY old!).
Wow modern afap looks so sharp and finally nailed the look
There is still a trade off. It was allways known how to make small antennas, but they are fundementally less efficient. As networks improved the coverage of cell phone masts it became possible for manufacturers to trade off a bit of performance for style. Additionally design and simulation tools got better that enabled them to have more complex antenna designs that narrowed the gap. Modern phones now have a huge number of antenna to support MIMO modes and additional frequency bands. 5G on phones will probably still use the same sub 6GHz antennas for a long while. The higher frequency mm-wave antenna require beamforming antenna arrays to combat the larger propagation loss. It will be very challenging to fit these in a handset and deal with the vagaries of hands getting in the way. Mm-wave acts more like visible light and is stopped by most materials.
I remember the iPhone 4 had a bug where the metal rim on the outside of the phone was part of the antenna but if you held it wrong you tanked your signal strength. They were able to fix the problem with a software patch, but it shows what they were doing with antennas at the time.
You know a channel is good when you already know what the episode is going explain and you still watch anyway. 👍
Half true Linus. Its actually the higher proliferation of Cell-towers that we have now compared to the 90's that is the main cause. there are simply more stronger signals around now because your more likely close a cell-tower, thus they can use such antenna. just remember that while you can fold an antenna as you describe, it loses gain doing its space saving trick
My Motorola StarTac, Blue, main battery, backpack battery, PIM with battery, and a 1/16th wave antenna about 2.5 inches you pulled out
Digital CDMA when I lived in Seattle, digital phones were just coming out, and I just loved it and miss it
You thought techquickie was growing fast at 1M subs-ish? THAT ISNT EVEN THEIR FINAL FORM
They PCB'd the antenna?? That's actually crazy
My Sharp Aquos phones of varying models from 2012 till 2014 has an antenna that you can pull out, which is mainly used to tune in to analog and/or digital TV services... Surprisingly, raising these antenna when in a building when reception is poor on other phones does the trick to boost 3G and 4G reception, so I can't say those antenna are only for the TV function, I can still do calls, send SMS (yes I still use this) and chat through WhatsApp Telegram and everything else when everyone else using common phones are just shaking or twirling their phones just to get cellular reception...
2:43 that company back in the day build the hardest substance on Earth
The 2016 LG K8 has metal around the battery (for its internal antenna) and the 2017 does too but it's a ribon cable (and a regular metal one [like the 2016 K8] for its F.M radio)
You mean Ribbon Cable
I remember when we were actually getting larger third-party antennas back in the late '90s because they had LEDs in them. When you got a call, the antenna would start flashing even before the phone rang. LOL, but if you were talking on your phone in the car at night, the whole roof inside would be flashing like a rave :-p
Old enough to remember Motorola "microtac" phones since we once had one
Old enough to remember Motorola Dynatac phones. We never had one but I do remember one of my aunts had a car phone. Thought it was the most amazing thing in the world.
Same with car radios. Antennas are now stamped onto the rear window above the defrost wires
The last bit was gold!
The first mobile I got with no antenna was a Nokia 3210 in 1999 and that thing just blew me away! Sleek, sexy, snake and no Antenna...What more would you ever need!
Remember the good ol' days, when phones had big antennae and RUclips videos had the ad AT THE END instead of the middle?
Anybody remember those little stick on antennas they used to sell to boost signal?
or Apple saying it's a feature when you lost the signal by holding it in the wrong way?????
Then there's fractal antennas - also printed onto the board but far more complex a shape while apparently having better reception
Linus, they invented something called FRACTAL ANTENNA which killed the classic telescopic antenna. That's why
The whole ability to shrink antennas and print them as shapes was predicated on the fact that they were shaped as fractals. Self-similar shapes made for excellent antennas. All printed antnennas have some fractal component. This makes the antennas more sensitive to the specific wavelength(s) it was designed for.
3:48 Not sure about Higher speeds or less room but,
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That thing will give us Brain-Damage for sure....
No it won't.
Do you have wifi? have you been to a place that has wifi? Wifi already uses 5GHz. The energy transferred by a data connection is so small, it can't cause any harm to us.
Machinegamer, they probably just think its funny, like AHHH technology im so quirky and funny haha
Seeing how high end(material wise) phone cases are made would be cool to see, along with the tech that’s in them etc...
UAG, Speck, Spigen, X-Doria, Griffin, Otterbox, etc.... Something we use daily & some are pretty insane as far as materials used & how there "woven" together to get the strength needed for say a 10 foot drop 😆
Cheers✌🏻
Fantastic video, my first phone Sony cube had a very long antenna.
@2:12 that looks like a power supply from an LCD TV. So definitely not 90s :)
Agreed. Even PC power supplies of today have a component scheme similar to this, but with a little more quantity of specialized parts.
0:43 i had that exact tv as a kid. Damn the memories.
I recall watching my teenage son walk around with his antennae phone, I noticed when he turned away from me it looked like he had an antennae sticking out of his head.
He appeared to be like Uncle Martin of my favorite Martian TV show, which made be laugh every time.
The son was like, "Dad are you getting senile?"
Thank you for the info. Antenna’s will always be with us in some form. Still in phones. Guess someone wasn’t listening.
Hey! I'm a radio amateur, and I do some things in 160m band, radiotelegraphy for example.
One day i tried to make a 160m band dipole antenna, it is like 80m long!
(Horizontally)
I recommend the HD 650. They are open, and they require that you can boost the bass if you want. They are not bass friendly, but they are like Angels in the mids and highs. I used HD 598 before and the 650 is even sharper on the mids, It was painfull for me.
I just saw a CB radio antenna for the first time today! Man these RUclips coincidences are getting weird... this is the second one today.
Back when I had my Moto E it had a stock app that was a radio tuner and it used wired headphones as the antenna.
3:10 LINUS SPITS WHILE TALKING AHE AHE AHE
It was only in the North America. I have never had a phone with an external antenna and my first was Nokia 3210 (aka snow shovel or countdown). Modern phones also use the same frequencies. Mine goes as low as 700 MHz and as high as 2300 MHz.
We will see a comeback for antennas in the IoT space ;) Most IoT devices work on ISM bands. To increase the range they can operate in, you are only able to use a better antenna. You cannot boost the signal by increasing the power. This is not allowed. I love my directional antennas :)
Antennas won't return on Phones anytime soon
My first phone had an Antenna, it was a Nokia when i was 13. It was huge the size of a handset in 2003
that is totally what a bell sounds like
linus with a boombox !!! i'm dead. thanks linus for the footage
…………………...and on rollerblades. LOL, just needed a pair of Zubas to finish the picture.
Dude, I remember case mods and antenna mods with LEDs and all kinds of stuff... Them phones were so bulky there was no problems with dropping either...
Starting to see it on cars my 2014 Mazda 3 has the radio antennas printed on the back window above the heat tape so there a 4" strip that doesn't get defrosted on the top
I read somewhere that they kept putting antennas on phones cuz the customers would think the phones without antennas would have inferior reception.
Metal plate on the back makes the connection better? So what about every single phone with a glass back? Worse connection? (cuz of the wireless charging)
How does weaving an antenna on a printed board work when the wavelength of the signal isn't good up in the same way?
The fruit boots with the boom box was a nice touch lmao
Man, i have to look into your skate shoes dancing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I used to have a Filipino Starmobile smartphone that had a retractable antenna.
Yeah, I never really used that phone. The antenna TV and FM radio functions were cool though.
Gave you a like just for the 5 to 7 inch remark and graphic that went with it at 1:34 in.
My understanding (from having listened to someone who'd worked at a phone manufacturer) is that they kept the phone antennas (at least on the American market) because Americans didn't trust phones with internal antennas, even if they were as good.
When there was still an external antenna,you could watch 2g video with only a little buffering,and 3g video with little to no buffering.
Now its almost impossible to watch any video in 3g or low quality 4g without serious buffering.
Now they have 5g coming out when they don't even have the bugs worked out of 4g.
3:59 that was actually impressive
Korean smartphones do have retractable antenna, in order to receive digital TV signal.
My dad actually worked for Nokia's R&D on that printed antenna, they put a lot of money into developing that tech. The company literally changed the whole world with that invention on a scale that Apple couldn't even dream of. It was an actual technological revolution, not just a well-executed marketing campaign. Sad to see them flop just like that.
As far as I know the antennas have fractal shapes nowadays.
Hey, could you do a video explaining how smartphone manufacturers like Motorola decide which phone models to bring to individual markets? For Example, Motorola released the Moto G7 Power internationally with 4GB RAM + 64GB storage, with three colors to choose from, but only a single color and 3+32GB model in the United States. For the life of me, I can't figure out why they would limit choice to that extent, when every other market launched with both variants. Is it based on sales?
My dad still has the one in right side; broken, but still in good shape.
Okay, let's try identifying the 0:14... Oof. Ericsson for sure, looks a bit like T28, but I think it's not. Then Siemens C45, dunno (some Motorolla?), Siemens M65, Siemens A50 and Siemens C25. Heavy Siemens bias here, which I fully support :D
Siemens phones were the best, I have a C65, C25 and a really beaten up M65
I remember taking my old school Nokia to the mall and having this cute guy install one of those flashing antennas onto it at one of those kiosks, so that it flashed whenever I made a call or got a text.
I knew you were going to say "speaking of..."
😂
In a future cyberpunk world, large antennas will return to fashion, but in our heads.
See the interesting thing about linus is whether or not he cares he seems to care. Speak with passion and you will be heard.
I remember having a phone that used the headphone cable as an antenna to pick up larger radio waves.
Most phones have that
Should have shown the Korean version of the Note 3 with the built in telescoping tv antenna.
I still remember phones having antennas to watch live tv
You never mentioned that a large majority of older phones with no antenna still came with the option to add one through an expansion port with a I think MCX adapter? Could be wrong.