Games are being played at 2hr 30 mins. Figuring 2 mins for commercials at the beginning of the game and every half inning, 25% of the "game time" is commercials.
Marlins tickets are as low as 3 bucks.. the MLB isn't nearly as bad as the nba heat tickets went up a ridiculous amount I paid 300 for section 300 tickets last year against the celitcs in the ECF this year those same tickets were going for 6-700+
I like the pitch clock. I've been to minor league games, so I've seen it. Most MLB games start at 7:30pm, it's going to be nice to have games end around 10pm.
Argument well made, thank you. I actually didn't mind long games myself. When I went to a live game, it just meant that much more time I was sitting there taking in my enjoyment of the ball game experience. But I recognize not everyone feels the same, and the point about declining attendance makes the case. The faster games won't deter a fan like me (I'll enjoy the games either way), but it might bring back some fans who want the quicker action, which is good for the game overall.
I think lead pitcher stats will go down because they have to switch out more often to rest their shoulder due to less rest time between pitches. I bet more rules will follow bc the players strategy.
i remember MLB official youtube channel have 1.2million subscribers in 2019..Now its jump up over 4.5 millions subscribers. in the past 4 years! Parts of the reasons was shohei and the world baseball classic. I digress. I do like this new rule. Its gunna be a pretty interesting season for sure!
I hate it! I'm going to a game to get out of the house and enjoy the overall experience. Baseball is trying to speed the game up and keep me at home. If I wanted to stay home, I'll watch it at home. I like a 5 hour, 14 inning marathon. If people want or need to get home early for the morning, then they shouldn't be going out the previous night. I chat with strangers during the down time, it's fun and relaxing. Cut the game time, cut the prices Get rid of the runner on 2nd in extra innings too. Blindfold the batters so there's quick strikeouts, that will really speed things up.
I was at the 8/9/22 Yanks vs. Mariners game in Seattle....4 + hours...13 innings...my 6 year old boy seeing his first major league game...long night ..loved every minute of it.(the M's won..1-0)
With no set time, baseball still averages 3 hours a game. This rule is for networks to back to the scheduled programs sooner. Not for the fans. We baseball fans grew up watching, and can tell you, ain’t none of my friends watching a game on tv bc of a pitch clock.
So.......When I watch a game on TV I don't see any evidence of a pitch clock behind the batter and umpire. Where is such a clock located such that the pitcher can see it??????
Don't be lied to. It's all about money. I should be able to throw the ball to any base I want as many times as I want. So now after 2 pick off attempts I guess I can lead off as much as I want????
I have not experienced this yet, but at first it seems like a way to deal with people's ever increasing lack of attention. Tiktok generation. But maybe it's good.
1:31 you wanna fuckin bet? Going to a baseball game is a fun family outing that's supposed to take a couple hours. What kind of psycho father wants to spend less time with his son because he wants to beat the traffic home before dinnertime? What kind of fan watching bottom of the 9th tie game at home goes "wow this is a good game, I can't wait for it to be over faster!"
Add 5 seconds and it's perfect. Love the change but it's to rushed. The chess match aspect has been removed, no time to think. Add 5 seconds and would be better all around.
No...this is a joke and is the last thing baseball needed. It sucks and as baseball has declined through recent years, its only going to continue to get worse.
This pitch clock is something that the MLB has needed for a long time. NFL has one, NBA has one, so why shouldn't the slowest game in the country have one to speed up the game? Great implementation
id change it 30 seconds so players can set up plays, then try to make a rule that players learn how to play defense on your toes, oh wait thats another irrelevant sport where little league seems more interesting. lower the amount of games so a long game isnt as boring because of the other 130 games before it
Baseball is more boring then golf. Lol. Maybe now with thise new rule I will start to watch again. The issue was always the amount of stoppages and delays
I don't give a damn about new rules. But I will break it to all of y'all. It's not the length of the game that people have a problem with. People aren't going to games because there's too many games in a season. Baseball season is the longest season in US sports. 162 games and you expect to have a ton of attendance and viewership on television? You can skip 40 games of a season and nobody would bad an eyelash. The league needs to cut the games in half. Instead of 162 games do about 80 to 82 games a year. That way every single game means more than it normally would. Baseball players will give more of a shit, fans would give more of a shit because there's less games going on. Will want to go to more games because there's not that many games to go to. Hell, the NFL average for a game is just over 3 hours like the MLB. It's the same for NCAA football... So you can't tell me the length of the game is the problem. Because it's not. Going to an MLB games and experience. You walk around the ballpark, go and see different things inside of it, go do activities and events that are going on. Sportcasters, sports talk show hosts, and people who work for organizations or the MLB have no clue what they're talking about. Because they don't watch or go to the games as fans of the sport. They do it cuz it's their job. And everybody fucking hates their job. Go outside and touch him fucking grass and get a perspective on reality
Yes but NFL and NCAA football is constant action so it doesn’t feel like it. Also, you have 22 guys that are always in constant motion and are a part of every play. In baseball a majority of the time it’s just the pitcher, the catcher and the batter. Everyone else is just standing around unless there’s a base hit so the game seems much longer.
Eacctly what it does not n3ed. Why to folks belive this is what youth want. It is not. Its what manfred wants as he thinks it will getmonwy. It will harm the game. Sorry I cannot see qell to spell.
No. Just no. Baseball and starting pitchers have taken a (I refuse to say the name because I'm a Dodger fan) leap BACK. Football = 3 hours, basketball = 3 hours... That's just a fact. Baseball with NO CLOCK 3 hours!! now you want to shorten the game, shorten what we now call a starting pitcher... To put a clock on baseball is a travesty of travesties. And before I get the "new times old man" BS, I welcome the complete pimping of home runs and epic bat flips... Do you know how hard it is to hit a bike run in the MLB??? Pimp the crap out of it. Just NO to a clock!!
The rule sucks and I hate it, with that as a business decision if it helps to bring interest from the younger generation along with attendance and overall viewing growth, who am I?
@@JohnnyZeroBoo you don't like soccer? Do you like hockey it's basically like hockey I don't need necessarily a lot of offense to enjoy the game if there's a lot of action
@@turkwendell6904 I'm saying it's fine... But saying that socceer isn't boring most of the time is disingenuous in comparison to baseball... And then add in all the acting and flopping and the extra time no one knows about till they add it at the end... Then if it goes to penalties all the primping and prancing and swagging till they kick at a goalie then the goalie guesses right or wrong most of the time to determine a match.
I will disagree with everything you said regarding the pitch clock being needed by baseball. 1. No new fans will be added because a game goes from 3Hrs to 2.5Hrs. People who are not baseball fans will remain NOT baseball fans. The scratches, sniffs, mound visits all add to the soap opera that plays out over a 3 hour game for a baseball fan. 2. The financial side of this equation doesn't balance either. Fewer fans buying stuff at the stadium + few commercials during games == less revenue for an already VERY expensive roster. 3. Game 7 of the WS won't be determined by a pitch clock...."Players will adjust". What a BS statement. If players will adjust, let's just have a 90 minute clock like soccer and extend for penalties so we can cater to the non-baseball fans. We'll only play 7 inning. But hey, that's OK right. While we're at it, let's just make it 3 balls and 2 strikes so those non-fans will tune in. 4.
It's going to make the game a lot better and bring it back to the way it used to be played, the pace will be appropriate finally. Really big difference game will be a lot better. I don't know if it's going to lead to more viewership but over time it will because people will be more involved. That said baseball isn't all that popular and declining sort of
@@turkwendell6904 Thanks for the respectful comment. I've had some blowback from others and we'll just have to agree to disagree. How are people going to be more involved? I don't think baseball is declining. I think peoples ability to GO TO GAMES is declining. The financial aspect of this can't be overlooked or overstated. MLB doesn't have fans in the stadium because regular fans can't afford it now. Elections(selections) have consequences.... couple that with every scalper site on the net selling tickets at a premium.... going to a game is not even affordable anymore.(at least for a good team) Go Braves!!
1) I see it as a long term impact. I am 55 and watched the game growing up with my dad as I am sure a lot of did. Today's kids have a LOT more options than I did growing up and they do not want to sit and watch a game when nothing is happening. My hope is that when a dad is watching a game a kid may sit down and as things happen quicker it may keep the kids interest more. I am not saying kids today have short attention spans either, just that they do not need long attention spans. As kids start to spend time watching the game then perhaps more kids will like the game because, despite when many people say, the game itself is not changing. If you want to mark the post, make it 10 years from now. 2) I would think that the game ending faster would mean more fans would be able to stay later and buy more merchandise. Concessions may loose a little but not much as the amount of time between innings is the same and they have the game feeds in the booths. Maybe this may be good in that teams may have more people selling food and drinks out in the seats and therefore get more people jobs. 3) Your suggestion of a 90 minute clock shows you really do not understand what is being done and why. The goal is not to simply shorten the game time. The goal is to shorten at bats and have action occur more often which for the most part would shorten the game. MLB would be happy with a 3 hour game 8-6 game where players were on base than a 3 hour 3-1 game where the runs were score on a3 run homer and a solo shot. I wish I knew where I heard this stat from but there was at one point and average of just under 5 minutes between balls being put in play. So players would strike out or walk so often that nothing would happen to engage the crowd. 4) Your though on 2022's attendance is pure speculation. I agree that is was stable from 2012 through 2017 but started taking bigger dips in 2018 and while the 64 million in 2022 is a bigger dip it is still *almost* in tune with the rest of the trend
@@claytoncourtney1309 1) OK, look back in 10 years. 2) I've never seen folks stay later unless there were fireworks or kids running the bases. The game ends, folks go home. 3) Don't get snippy. I understand exactly what the intention is.... cater to folks with short attention spans. Maybe kids(and adults) with a phone stuck in their face for 12+ hours a day is a contributing factor? Leave the game alone. 4) As stated, ticket reporting changed in 2018. You don't just lose 3 million fans from 1 season to the next.(2017-2018) Absolutely nothing else of significance happened in 2018 to explain this. On the contrary, MUCH has happened in 2022 and with another 5 million fan attendance decrease. You may call my conclusions speculation, BUT those are the FACTS I used to arrive at said speculation. You just don't lose 13% of attendance for no reason since 2017. The game was just as slow then too. Appreciate the comments though.
MLB has great fan turnout and tv viewership in the LATE season but this is going to bring people back to watch the early season because now a game will run the same length as going to the movies. It will also allow teams to charge less for tickets since they have a quicker product. Ticket prices have soared in the last decade and that’s another reason most teams can’t even field the bottom section of their stadium until 3/4 the way through the season.
Agreed. In a year or 2 it'll be a non question.
Games are being played at 2hr 30 mins. Figuring 2 mins for commercials at the beginning of the game and every half inning, 25% of the "game time" is commercials.
I'll be interested to see how these rules affect the game, but I don't think long games is why attendance is dropping. Ticket prices are just too high
Marlins tickets are as low as 3 bucks.. the MLB isn't nearly as bad as the nba heat tickets went up a ridiculous amount I paid 300 for section 300 tickets last year against the celitcs in the ECF this year those same tickets were going for 6-700+
I just watched my Giants winn 16 to 8 in 2 hours and 50 minutes, I can't convey how much I love these new rules.
My only issue... Is concessions and bathrooms... Its going to be very easy to lose an inning and a half in line... As far as fan perspective.
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I like the pitch clock. I've been to minor league games, so I've seen it. Most MLB games start at 7:30pm, it's going to be nice to have games end around 10pm.
Argument well made, thank you. I actually didn't mind long games myself. When I went to a live game, it just meant that much more time I was sitting there taking in my enjoyment of the ball game experience. But I recognize not everyone feels the same, and the point about declining attendance makes the case. The faster games won't deter a fan like me (I'll enjoy the games either way), but it might bring back some fans who want the quicker action, which is good for the game overall.
I think lead pitcher stats will go down because they have to switch out more often to rest their shoulder due to less rest time between pitches. I bet more rules will follow bc the players strategy.
For a person like me with no teams around to go watch live, itll make watching it on tv a lot more enjoyable.
I’m sitting here watching the Phillies/Sox game and it has made this game so much more exciting and fluid.
If golf has pace of play rules, baseball should absolutely as well. I love it. I may watch baseball again!!!!
from 4:50 - 5:00, dude was spitting cold hard facts.
Imma start watching baseball again. Ive havent stopped going to games, but definitely did stop watching the games from home.
i remember MLB official youtube channel have 1.2million subscribers in 2019..Now its jump up over 4.5 millions subscribers. in the past 4 years! Parts of the reasons was shohei and the world baseball classic. I digress. I do like this new rule. Its gunna be a pretty interesting season for sure!
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It’s still more lenient than the rule in the actual mlb handbook.
The best rule change ever... its a Hella frustrating when an at bat takes 5 minutes
Thank Gawd! 6 hour baseball games are ludicrous.
I agree with pukesdudehockey the length has never been a issue with me no timeouts no clock it was no problem
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I hate it! I'm going to a game to get out of the house and enjoy the overall experience. Baseball is trying to speed the game up and keep me at home. If I wanted to stay home, I'll watch it at home. I like a 5 hour, 14 inning marathon. If people want or need to get home early for the morning, then they shouldn't be going out the previous night. I chat with strangers during the down time, it's fun and relaxing. Cut the game time, cut the prices Get rid of the runner on 2nd in extra innings too. Blindfold the batters so there's quick strikeouts, that will really speed things up.
Baseball with the pitch clock is still longer than it used to be in the 60's and 70's, before all the bs time taking started in the late 90's.
I was at the 8/9/22 Yanks vs. Mariners game in Seattle....4 + hours...13 innings...my 6 year old boy seeing his first major league game...long night ..loved every minute of it.(the M's won..1-0)
With no set time, baseball still averages 3 hours a game. This rule is for networks to back to the scheduled programs sooner. Not for the fans. We baseball fans grew up watching, and can tell you, ain’t none of my friends watching a game on tv bc of a pitch clock.
So.......When I watch a game on TV I don't see any evidence of a pitch clock behind the batter and umpire. Where is such a clock located such that the pitcher can see it??????
im very happy they made this a thing.. should definitely help the pace of the game a little bit. keeps the players from pissing around to much
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Don't be lied to. It's all about money. I should be able to throw the ball to any base I want as many times as I want. So now after 2 pick off attempts I guess I can lead off as much as I want????
The reason games take longer today, is the commercials. The game will be more commercials than game.
I have not experienced this yet, but at first it seems like a way to deal with people's ever increasing lack of attention. Tiktok generation. But maybe it's good.
No
1:31 you wanna fuckin bet? Going to a baseball game is a fun family outing that's supposed to take a couple hours. What kind of psycho father wants to spend less time with his son because he wants to beat the traffic home before dinnertime? What kind of fan watching bottom of the 9th tie game at home goes "wow this is a good game, I can't wait for it to be over faster!"
A high profile game will end on a violation and when it happens people are going to lose their shit lmao
Add 5 seconds and it's perfect. Love the change but it's to rushed. The chess match aspect has been removed, no time to think. Add 5 seconds and would be better all around.
15 sec is way too short, at least 60 secs
Players where so much equipment also. Then they take it off after a hit or walk. Lol
Only fake fans like the Manfred rules. The pitch clock sucks!
No...this is a joke and is the last thing baseball needed. It sucks and as baseball has declined through recent years, its only going to continue to get worse.
Absolutely love it. I might start watching my favorite sport again. It's been unwatchable for the last decade or so. Love it!
I guess this will be for the better but it’s really going to cut in on my beer consumption…
This pitch clock is something that the MLB has needed for a long time. NFL has one, NBA has one, so why shouldn't the slowest game in the country have one to speed up the game? Great implementation
Max 2 hours! Not more. People have less time these days. Respect that. High time.
Pitch clock sucks.
id change it 30 seconds so players can set up plays, then try to make a rule that players learn how to play defense on your toes, oh wait thats another irrelevant sport where little league seems more interesting. lower the amount of games so a long game isnt as boring because of the other 130 games before it
Nothing better then a long baseball game. People complaining about the game being to long sound like an 8 year old.
Still don’t like it
Baseball is more boring then golf. Lol. Maybe now with thise new rule I will start to watch again. The issue was always the amount of stoppages and delays
No it is a terrible idea.
From Amercia's pastime to Amercia's fastime
I've literally been afraid to go to a baseball game because I don't want to be stuck there for 3.5 hours This season I'll definitely go to a few
Great. Glad we changed the game for someone with your enthusiasm.
I don't give a damn about new rules. But I will break it to all of y'all. It's not the length of the game that people have a problem with. People aren't going to games because there's too many games in a season. Baseball season is the longest season in US sports. 162 games and you expect to have a ton of attendance and viewership on television? You can skip 40 games of a season and nobody would bad an eyelash.
The league needs to cut the games in half. Instead of 162 games do about 80 to 82 games a year. That way every single game means more than it normally would. Baseball players will give more of a shit, fans would give more of a shit because there's less games going on. Will want to go to more games because there's not that many games to go to.
Hell, the NFL average for a game is just over 3 hours like the MLB. It's the same for NCAA football... So you can't tell me the length of the game is the problem. Because it's not. Going to an MLB games and experience. You walk around the ballpark, go and see different things inside of it, go do activities and events that are going on.
Sportcasters, sports talk show hosts, and people who work for organizations or the MLB have no clue what they're talking about. Because they don't watch or go to the games as fans of the sport. They do it cuz it's their job. And everybody fucking hates their job.
Go outside and touch him fucking grass and get a perspective on reality
Yes but NFL and NCAA football is constant action so it doesn’t feel like it. Also, you have 22 guys that are always in constant motion and are a part of every play. In baseball a majority of the time it’s just the pitcher, the catcher and the batter. Everyone else is just standing around unless there’s a base hit so the game seems much longer.
Eacctly what it does not n3ed. Why to folks belive this is what youth want. It is not. Its what manfred wants as he thinks it will getmonwy. It will harm the game. Sorry I cannot see qell to spell.
No. Just no. Baseball and starting pitchers have taken a (I refuse to say the name because I'm a Dodger fan) leap BACK.
Football = 3 hours, basketball = 3 hours... That's just a fact. Baseball with NO CLOCK 3 hours!! now you want to shorten the game, shorten what we now call a starting pitcher... To put a clock on baseball is a travesty of travesties.
And before I get the "new times old man" BS, I welcome the complete pimping of home runs and epic bat flips... Do you know how hard it is to hit a bike run in the MLB??? Pimp the crap out of it.
Just NO to a clock!!
The rule sucks and I hate it, with that as a business decision if it helps to bring interest from the younger generation along with attendance and overall viewing growth, who am I?
HATE IT!!! Only people that like it don’t watch baseball anyway.
Can we see less of the narrators face
This is why baseball is the only American sport that stays in America 😂. Thank you but we don’t have 3 hrs for a boring ass sport
Baseball is played in more than 25 countries and 18 professionally.
Any more boring than a nil-nil soccer match? Lol
@@JohnnyZeroBoo you don't like soccer? Do you like hockey it's basically like hockey I don't need necessarily a lot of offense to enjoy the game if there's a lot of action
@@JohnnyZeroBoo at least it doesn’t last more than 90 mins
@@turkwendell6904 I'm saying it's fine... But saying that socceer isn't boring most of the time is disingenuous in comparison to baseball... And then add in all the acting and flopping and the extra time no one knows about till they add it at the end... Then if it goes to penalties all the primping and prancing and swagging till they kick at a goalie then the goalie guesses right or wrong most of the time to determine a match.
Youre losing the methodical pacing of the game.
Which never existed before the late 90's. ^60's 70's 80's were all even faster so it's not some traditional thing that baseball is slow af
I will disagree with everything you said regarding the pitch clock being needed by baseball.
1. No new fans will be added because a game goes from 3Hrs to 2.5Hrs. People who are not baseball fans will remain NOT baseball fans. The scratches, sniffs, mound visits all add to the soap opera that plays out over a 3 hour game for a baseball fan.
2. The financial side of this equation doesn't balance either. Fewer fans buying stuff at the stadium + few commercials during games == less revenue for an already VERY expensive roster.
3. Game 7 of the WS won't be determined by a pitch clock...."Players will adjust". What a BS statement. If players will adjust, let's just have a 90 minute clock like soccer and extend for penalties so we can cater to the non-baseball fans. We'll only play 7 inning. But hey, that's OK right. While we're at it, let's just make it 3 balls and 2 strikes so those non-fans will tune in.
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It's going to make the game a lot better and bring it back to the way it used to be played, the pace will be appropriate finally. Really big difference game will be a lot better. I don't know if it's going to lead to more viewership but over time it will because people will be more involved. That said baseball isn't all that popular and declining sort of
@@turkwendell6904 Thanks for the respectful comment. I've had some blowback from others and we'll just have to agree to disagree. How are people going to be more involved? I don't think baseball is declining. I think peoples ability to GO TO GAMES is declining. The financial aspect of this can't be overlooked or overstated. MLB doesn't have fans in the stadium because regular fans can't afford it now. Elections(selections) have consequences.... couple that with every scalper site on the net selling tickets at a premium.... going to a game is not even affordable anymore.(at least for a good team) Go Braves!!
@@zanebrown5142 thank you for the thanks and hope you have a good day. You make some good points there too
1) I see it as a long term impact. I am 55 and watched the game growing up with my dad as I am sure a lot of did. Today's kids have a LOT more options than I did growing up and they do not want to sit and watch a game when nothing is happening. My hope is that when a dad is watching a game a kid may sit down and as things happen quicker it may keep the kids interest more. I am not saying kids today have short attention spans either, just that they do not need long attention spans. As kids start to spend time watching the game then perhaps more kids will like the game because, despite when many people say, the game itself is not changing.
If you want to mark the post, make it 10 years from now.
2) I would think that the game ending faster would mean more fans would be able to stay later and buy more merchandise. Concessions may loose a little but not much as the amount of time between innings is the same and they have the game feeds in the booths. Maybe this may be good in that teams may have more people selling food and drinks out in the seats and therefore get more people jobs.
3) Your suggestion of a 90 minute clock shows you really do not understand what is being done and why. The goal is not to simply shorten the game time. The goal is to shorten at bats and have action occur more often which for the most part would shorten the game. MLB would be happy with a 3 hour game 8-6 game where players were on base than a 3 hour 3-1 game where the runs were score on a3 run homer and a solo shot. I wish I knew where I heard this stat from but there was at one point and average of just under 5 minutes between balls being put in play. So players would strike out or walk so often that nothing would happen to engage the crowd.
4) Your though on 2022's attendance is pure speculation. I agree that is was stable from 2012 through 2017 but started taking bigger dips in 2018 and while the 64 million in 2022 is a bigger dip it is still *almost* in tune with the rest of the trend
@@claytoncourtney1309 1) OK, look back in 10 years. 2) I've never seen folks stay later unless there were fireworks or kids running the bases. The game ends, folks go home. 3) Don't get snippy. I understand exactly what the intention is.... cater to folks with short attention spans. Maybe kids(and adults) with a phone stuck in their face for 12+ hours a day is a contributing factor? Leave the game alone. 4) As stated, ticket reporting changed in 2018. You don't just lose 3 million fans from 1 season to the next.(2017-2018) Absolutely nothing else of significance happened in 2018 to explain this. On the contrary, MUCH has happened in 2022 and with another 5 million fan attendance decrease. You may call my conclusions speculation, BUT those are the FACTS I used to arrive at said speculation. You just don't lose 13% of attendance for no reason since 2017. The game was just as slow then too. Appreciate the comments though.
It’s too late. Baseball still sucks.
You're not making baseball better, you're just giving it Ritalin.
It's going to ruin the game
Game already ruined no one watches baseball lmao
@@zavthe1371 it generates billions of dollars a year. Everyone in baseball gets Rich except for the stadium workers and that kind of stuff
Baseball is hard enough to watch. They need to do something
Hard enough to watch wtf lol. Go watch the ballroom dancing then.
MLB has great fan turnout and tv viewership in the LATE season but this is going to bring people back to watch the early season because now a game will run the same length as going to the movies.
It will also allow teams to charge less for tickets since they have a quicker product. Ticket prices have soared in the last decade and that’s another reason most teams can’t even field the bottom section of their stadium until 3/4 the way through the season.