MLB's pitching problem just got worse...
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2024
- In the midst of the MLB season's first week, significant concern arises as star pitchers like Shane Bieber, Eurey Perez, and Spencer Strider suffer UCL injuries, while others like Framber Valdez, Josiah Grey, and Nick Pivetta face unconfirmed elbow issues. The prevalence of such injuries, often necessitating Tommy John surgery, prompts a deeper look into their causes and prevention strategies. Historical insights into the surgery's origins with Tommy John himself shed light on its evolution into one of sports' most common and devastating injuries, affecting thousands of pitchers across the minor and major leagues.
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Hey, that’s me!
Miss you pitching for the Mets. I'm surprised you retired. You were still pitching well, I thought you had a few more years left
You're a legend! Never forget that, NEVER.
Trevor Bauer has it figured it out. He has never had an injury -- except the drone thing. It is training and mechanics. Trevor has developed both. In Cleveland the pitching coaches hated him. Many of the pitchers went to Trevor to correct the flaws in their delivery.
Cleveland learned from Trevor, and developed the best pitching factory in baseball. Trevor is not only a former Cy Young winner, he might be the best pitching coach MLB has ever had!
MLB needs to swallow its pride and LISTEN to Trevor Bauer.
Pitchers used to throw fastball at 92 and then "reach back" on a strikeout pitch, and they'd hit 96. Now every pitch, they are trying to throw 96
Yeah, you’d be surprised how much throwing your hardest even for a few pitches tires you out. Guys like Nolan Ryan and Justin Verlander do/did that a lot, and I think it’s part of the reason why they’ve been so durable over the years
clearly we need ambidextrous pitchers
Miss State has one that throws 90 both sides
need pitchers to learn out to get batters out with pitching 90-93 starters that are pushing 100mph are killing there arms
@@Smart-Towel-RG-400 Im bias but that's part of why i've loved watching Imanaga pitch, its just art. Assad kinda feels like an underrated fun guy too. Hendricks def been struggling but when he locates and has it working hes by far one of my fav pitchers to watch
I think is a scout problem, teams won't sign someone who throws under 95
then that's an organizational problem, correct? Don't the scouts work for the ballclubs?
I agree with this. Scouts require pitchers to throw so fast that it leads to more injuries. Pitchers have no choice and most pitchers don’t throw hard enough to even get a scouts attention
@@jackwilliams7738exactly, it’s baseball that’s the problem. Throwing any slower and you’re not worth the contract.
We need more knuckleballers!!
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Hell yeah!
Would be nice to go back to traditional baseball while mixing modern baseball with it. Guys who throw 100 and plenty of knuckleballers and sinkerballers too
We're primmed for a resurgence of finesse pitchers. MLB hitters are so good at hitting high velo these days if any teams take a chance on a finesse guy with real talent he'd have a good shot of making it.
I think we are there, these guys are in the weight room, they are being trained how important and how to warm up and stretch
Played in college and I kid you not, that idiot was telling us to lead with our elbow and whip because “you can throw harder, and when you get TJ, you will come back throwing even harder”
Like TJ surgery was required to be a good collegiate pitcher. Guys who couldn’t throw mid 90s were purposefully hurting themselves to get 3mph after a year of rehab. It’s disgusting
I've heard similar. That Tommy John made you throw harder so didn't matter if your arm hurts keep throwing hard
So I'm just one tommy john surgery away from being a starting pitcher!
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The more to the story is that we’re too specialized. Don’t do enough manual labor in our lives. Don’t know how or when to go moderate.
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You cannot throw this hard, while spinning the ball this much and survive it physically. Until players are encouraged to back off on velocity and spin rate these injuries will continue to climb. The pitch clock excuse is 100% bogus.
The problem is, what you are describing is a player performing at less than his full ability. An analogy would be a race car showing up to qualify at the Indy 500. The car is not going to qualify circling the track at 90% of its potential speed.
@@threeofive9401 no, I am describing a player literally performing at the highest level of their ability. Anything more gets them permanently injured. You are asking players to knowingly do more than what they are capable of, hence the injuries. You lack the ability to recognize reality. Work on your critical thinking skills. For your analogy to reflect reality, the race car would blow the engine during qualifying….and the driver would know going in that the car would break yet he pushes ahead anyway. Then, when asked why his car blew up he would say “I was only asking the car to give me 100%”.
@@roywall8169 "Anything more" is not within their ability.
@@threeofive9401 thank you for proving my point.
The players who back off of velocity and spin rate will end up never getting signed and watch games from their sofas on tv. The players who do not, may get injured but will get the contracts.
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This is the best breakdown of the subject I’ve seen thus far. Great work 👏
Even as a catcher my elbow never felt good. Now it cracks when I extend it. I used to throw as hard as I could to 2nd base I think my form wasn’t the best. Also, I used to play multiple games a day in tournaments so that didn’t help. It doesn’t only happen to pitchers but to catchers too.
6:11 the most severe injury a pitcher can have is a shoulder injury like a torn labrum. TJ is bad but shoulders are a disaster for careers.
0:22 Oh my God, is that what they do for Tommy John surgery!? Obviously I knew it was repairing the UCL but that little graphic was fascinating. Great video!
there are plenty of videos on this platform showing an actual TJ procedure. Pretty cool stuff...it's just a shame we see SO many of them now.
Great video!
I think what it is is that kids are taught that if they want to make it they need to throw hard so by the time they make it to the bigs if they do make it is the wear and tear on that arm is high
It also has to do with the twisting motion your elbow goes after the release, micro tears in these ligaments from just hyperextension
yah thats the spin rate thing they are putting so much damage
The act of throwing is eventually going to wear that ligament out even in ideal conditions. You never see it from a soft tosser. The way the modern throwing kinetic sequence probates the arm puts stress right on the point of the ucl. It’s just a tremendous amount of torque and the muscle just overpowers the joint. It sucks , I shredded mine throwing full mound bp to high school kids and I wasn’t event that fast but throwing low to mid 80s nearly everyday killed my elbow. After three years I felt my fingers go numb. I started shaking my arm out to try and gain feeling in my fingers but I knew it was gone . I’d torn an mcl a few years later and was familiar with the sound and feel. It’s just so crunchy now I’m scared to even try and. It feels like there’s gravel in there.
ESPN released an article where they found out throwing 80 mph or faster was putting the arm at risk of injury. Most kids get hurt throwing in the 80’s anyway.
I would extend the idea that you threw without any other exercises around those tendons aside from throwing.If you thicken and strengthen the tendon and the surrounding support structure through intentional workouts you can greatly buffer the tendon under the most stress during the throwing act and protect it. But just throwing without any other preventative strengthening routines will leave it exposed and then it is just a matter of repetitions.
@@ElvargsBane people just don’t want to accept the fact that throwing 95 mph every single pitch is horrible on the arm, shoulder and elbow.
Probably the quest for the highest velocity. I think pitchers need to concentrate more on control and using breaking balls more than boosting their velocity. Velocity is nice until your control and command is sh*tty.
I am a firm believer that these pitchers pitching one inning leads to injury. Nolan Ryan pitched into his 40's and pitched 7+ innings most games. I think throwing 90-110 pitches every 4-5 days builds up the stamina of the tendons and ligaments.
I think it's more about what they do between games. The Braves pitchers in the 90s, under Mazzone, threw more than other teams' pitchers did, and you didn't see guys like Maddox and Glavine getting hurt.
The whipping sensation of releasing the ball has to travel through the center portion of your triceps, not the inside portion of your arm above and below your elbow. You can get away with torquing your arm up at the wrist and elbow, when you’re stepping away from your target and throwing across or away from your body your shoulder girdle cannot stay put. This ends up causing more range of motion at the shoulder joint and more tension in the “upper” or proximal portions of your triceps. This creates a time bomb. You can still sling a baseball 3/4 release to sidearm while keeping your elbow on top of your motion. Guys naturally trying to spin the ball faster get to corkscrewing themselves into the mound rather than pitching downhill at the batter
It's a problem that is impossible to fix.
The only possible way to fix it is to mandate underhand pitching. That would take the strain off the elbow. Whether some other medical problem would then surface using that technique, I don't know.
@threeofive9401 sure. But I'd argue that fixing one problem when another one will just arise, isn't really a solution.
@@TryPuttingItInRice In theory, any physical activity can potentially cause injury. As far as I know, underhand throwing doesn't cause an usually high number of injuries. The next step down would be T-ball.
@threeofive9401 to your first sentence: my point exactly. People are complaining about injuries in sports. It happens. Always has, and always will as long as human beings are participating.
@@TryPuttingItInRice Right. The only possible answer would be to conclude that what is currently considered to be a high rate of arm injuries, is a price the sport (players, management and even fans), are willing to pay.
The new pitch clock. There's a lot more stress on the elbow more frequently at a more rapid pace.
Yes, the pitch clock is absolute INSANITY. It's an abomination that needs to be removed.
I cant believe that mlb and players dont understand how to avoid injuries and why theyre on the rise. Is for one thing and very simple. They do not train for withstanding more throws they only train for increasing velocity. Tell me which pitcher in the offseason goes all the way to 100-150 pitch bullpens? Nobody absolutely nobody. The only way to be prepared to throw 100 throws in the game is that in the offseason you slowly progress all the way to 100-150 throws. You might call me crazy to encourage offseason bullpens of 100-150 throws but its even crazier to think that 30 pitch bullpens will prepare you to throw 100 in the game. That is foolish nonsense. The arm doesnt know how many throws is doing it only knows stress. If youve only throwing 30 pitch bullpens and then increase it all of the sudden to 100 youre increasing more than double of what your body can handle. Now if you slowly progress in the offseason to 150 throws your body and arm are going to get use to that stress. But pitchers from today dont give their body the opportunity to get use to the stress. They think that fancy exercises or better mechanics will do it. Or they think that there is something else that will do the magic. It doesnt exist. The only thing you can do to prepare your body to throw 100 pitches in the game and remain healthy is that you slowly progress to those numbers of throws in the offseason. Period nothing else will do the job but that. Sometimes you only need logic and common sense to solve a problem. Its ironic that sometimes common sense is the least sense the human uses.
The problem with these pitchers today are they’re mechanics . A lot of guys do not decelerate after a pitch , and often times spin off . Bringing your elbow up too fast after a pitch , as well as going 100% at all times is very damaging to modern day pitching. The MLB has to come together as a collective to protect these guys
When did they have time to become mechanics?
This issue has more to do with year around baseball and wear and tear
@@jordannewell8903 It's part of their union contract. Yes, you get paid millions, but you also have to repair cars on your off days.
@@Brandonruffin No lol, starting pitchers don't even play the entire season lol they play one out of every 5 games, it has nothing to do with the length of the season. It's due to pitchers solely focusing on velocity from a young age
Has nothing to do with mechanics. You are missing the bigger picture. Elbow is not designed to throw 95 mph every pitch and then throw breaking balls too
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It's easy. Young pitchers are taught and train to throw as fast as they possibly can. And there's a shelf life for that. Throwing a baseball is an unnatural motion. They do it so they can get drafted and hopefully see a pay day. When they go down, it's 18 months to a couple of years, and most of them don't lose much and can still compete for a long time. Big League teams understand this and take on that risk. In the old days, before TJ, they were done so the incentive was different. My right arm is twisted and about three inches shorter than my left. And that's because when I was drafted you just kept going until, like the phrase was at the time, you 'blew out" your arm.
Pitch clock certainly doesn’t help, so we still need to get rid of it. There isn’t a silver bullet to fixing it, but we can take steps to mitigate it.
The stupid pitch clock is an arbitrary pointless addition. It eats up resources and instigates yet another pain point of intense hostility between umpires, players, and coaches.
Its immediate removal will instantly make the game better.
Yesterday I literally envisioned a future without umpires. Next will be tie games. That’s the direction baseball is going, and that’s why I don’t really watch it anymore. Baseball fans understand the length of time and imperfections as something that makes the sport special. Watching a game and seeing text that tells me what kind of pitch was thrown laid-over a catcher’s mitt…it’s just a turnoff. It’s fast-food entertainment.
I know it’s off-topic, but IMO players are set-up to either push too hard (or compromise tradition) to appease the impatient and less-informed.
I’d rather see steroids come back. 😂
Maybe pitchers should be allowed to cheat to put more spin on the ball in order to allow less velocity in order to keep the difficulty of hitting the ball high.
what about rotator cuff and labrum? ive never had elbow issues but had a double surgery on my shoulder and cant get near my senior year HS velo, even tho im stronger and faster in every way which way possible
How fast did you throw?
@@jackwilliams7738 84 to 86 topping 90 with max effort
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I tend to agree with John Smoltz -- asking pitchers to more or less throw EVERY pitch as hard as they can WITH as much spin as they can is already a recipe to get more people injured. The worse your mechanics are the more apt you're going to have issues.
It would have to be tough as a pitcher, who’s made it to the big leagues by throwing how they always have, to suddenly have to adjust their mechanics in a way that doesn’t feel natural because Pedro Martinez made a prediction. Especially if there’s a lot of money and a spot on the rotation on the line.
Interesting that Pedro would be an expert on this seeing as his velo was not what he was known for.
As a Marlins fan watching games I remember in 2010 when Josh Johnson was the best pitcher in the league had 1 bad start and I just knew something was wrong, same in 2014 with Jose Fernandez and last year with Sandy Alcantara. IT SUCKS! But you can see each start they just don’t have it you know something bad is about to come.
The way to get the best performance as a pitcher is to push your body to the breaking point, Much like build of top fuel drag race cars where the best performance is just an inch from breaking.
People, it's not the pitch clock, this has been a problem for years.
Bauer is wrong, in my opinion. The UCL is not a muscle. Even with optimal mechanics, UCL injuries arise from cumulative wear on the UCL. Intensive training, as he described, will only lead to pitchers hitting the wall faster.
Personally, I believe the answer is mechanical and, most importantly, recovery time between max effort pitching. Training and better medical observation are also important.
There are so many factors in this… pitchers are trying to throw harder than ever, their mechanics are all off, MLB took away there ability to use some sort of grip enhancer, the pitch clock means more pitches in less time. Etc etc
I think the pitch clock absolutely has an impact. With any movement such as strength training lack of rest between reps causes stress.
Absolutely, it's only a matter of time until there's enough data available to make it undeniable.
I wouldn't be surprised if the pitch clock has AN impact but injuries were going WAY up before the pitch clock was introduced. Devil's Advocate: When you ask pitchers to pitch as hard as possible, with as much spin as possible, without recovery time then you potentially have a combination that will make things worse.
I just wish they'd teach these kids to pitch instead of throw. Verlander starting the game at 92-93 and going up as the game goes on or when he's in a jam is so much less taxing on the arm. You do need to be a complete pitcher to do that and not just go to tread athletics to get an elite fastball and a breaking pitch with elite spin. Giving it 100% every pitch, not only velo but also spin...it will break anyone except Nolan Ryan and his arm of god
I don’t think this one is rocket science. The extra velocity and spin rate just strains the ucl way more then it can be expected to withstand. Some guys naturally throw 100plus others don’t, but all these guys shouldn’t be popping their elbows in the quest for higher spin rate. I know it’s results driven but the MLB needs their best players to stay healthy, it’s time to start looking at what else we’re doing wrong. From training to recovery in between starts, something is fundamentally wrong. I personally think Japan is onto something, their pitchers throw a LOT more during their training sessions, and focus more on tendon strength and flexibility, which results in guys throwing 98+ while getting deep into games. It’s always seemed the MLB clubs micromanage these guys to the point they’re going into the season almost cold and by month 2 their arms give out.
When did Shohei win a cy young?
The human body cannot physically handle the stress that Pitchers are putting themselves through trying to throw hard 90s, or even trying to improve spin rate.
But yet Trevor Bauer is still black balled for doing literally nothing.
I honestly wish Bauer could personally sue Manfred for lost earnings.
@@imaxdigital7052I think Bauer should too, but knowing Cuntfred, he’d tie him up in court. Bauer is making bank still from his contract with the dodgers.
You don’t get black balled for doing nothing
@@slimshady951000 That's absolute bullshit. Familiarize yourself with the cases before saying something so apparently false.
Bauer's initial accuser was proven to be a liar. Tetxs from her literally talking about stealing his money by accusing him of sexual assault. They anylized the metadata on her phone and established that there was a silly video of her, unharmed, laying next to a sleeping Bauer just hours after the "brutal assault." The case was dismissed and Bauer had to pay NOTHING.
His other accuser is being facing 16 years in prison for defrauding him and another man.
You're technically right. You don't get blackballed for doing nothing. You can get blackballed for being hated by the commissioner of the league. That;s what's happened to Bauer. Manfred HATES Bauer personally, because Bauer showed him up regarding the whole sticky stuff situation, and on top of that, he called Manfred out personally, on video, for essentially helping to kill the sport of baseball.
Bauer wasn't wrong, in either situation. Manfred is absolutely terrible, and even worse for the game of baseball. But that is why he's blackballed. Period.
People like you who say "well, he had to do something" are EXACTLY what's wrong with our society. You see smoke, and you assume fire. It's why so many people can be falsely accused. Cancelled. Ruined. Because false accusers KNOW that people like you will believe them over the actual victims.
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In my opinion, it has to do with pitchers throwing as hard as they can, on every pitch. Not pitching and throwing hard, but absolutely maxing out a velocity and spin rate on 75-100 pitches.
Players like Randy Johnson and Nolan Ryan, though a flame-throwers, were naturally gifted with that build and those mechanics, to be able to accommodate such speeds over a long period of time. You’ll notice how few pitchers in that era were throwing 95+ mph, and how few injuries there were as a result.
Guys not, focus on replicating the speed, and mechanics, in order to match those numbers, and they can, but not for long periods of time, because, quite literally, they are “built different”.
You see it now even in little league, where kids are throwing and grunting trying to get the highest velocity possible. I myself tore my rotator cuff at 15, by pitching too many games in a week (and also dodgeball) and throwing hard.
The saddest part about it, is that you won’t get a second look in college or high school if you aren’t pumping out 90+ mph pitches anymore.
I think the issue, is the insane spin rate being put on balls, with the addition of throwing it as hard as possible on every pitch. That’s a recipe for disaster.
Edit: I posted this before watching the whole video so now it just looks like I’m parroting it
didn't strider have a bone chip in his ligament?
Gets Tommy John. Lands Kate Upton. Hmm... 🤔 Not sure why any pitcher would say no!
Will preemptive surgery ever be done? As modern medicine gets better will they just take a year off to become somewhat superhuman if they can? I know there’s a chance of reinjury but it would be something I could see happening.
A human arm isn’t strong enough to throw 95-100mph over and over while spinning the ball as much as possible
I will say that i pitched in junior high and tryimg to throw a curve was a wste of time and did atress my elbow. My brother was a better pitcher who could throw low 90s and he basically only threw fastball and off Speed, probably because putting a breaker in the strike zone isnt easy
Get rid of radar guns all together, and stop with these silly pitch limits as its clear they do not work.
Does anyone here think that going back to vintage pitching style could help in keeping pitchers healthy??? I’d like help to research this
I just hope they recover and play again. Not a fan of seeing a guy have their careers end in such a manner.
Not getting worse. Same thing was happening in 1999 with Kerry Wood.
This is quite a catching meme with very little basis in reality. I dont think the increase in pitcher injury is supported by the numbers.
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It's the game clock.
I'm not really sure about this problem. I don't think throwing a ball 80+ miles an hour for 15-20+ years has anything to do with it though.
I can’t remember which pitcher it was that said this would become a huge problem when they did away with the sticky substance. Gripping a baseball with pressure + today’s high velocity mechanics is a recipe for disaster
Believe it was Clevinger.
Next man up.
There are 2 issues currently plaguing pitching..
#1. No Spitballs
#2. No 'stikystuff'
pitchers do not need substances. hitting is already nearly impossible.
There’s absolutely 0 proof pitch clock has increased injury
It’s pitchers chasing velo and spin rate
Mechanics need to be fixed
Its not baseballs problem, its thebpitchers. They are choosing to throw hard for long term. And they arent used to it. Pitch count is killing thm, they arent used to going 8-9, back in the day it was normal and noone had this problem. Very rare. So if you wanna be a starter and throw 98, 100, good luck bc your manager aint gonna train you to be used to it
Last guy I’d listen to would be Trevor Bauer lmao
Pitch clock, yeah, that's the problem. Pfffft
Gollly Bauer is a beast.
Someone needs to hire Pedro to fix mechanics
The problem is not everyone is Tommy John, everyone is different, which is good proof that Tommy John belongs to be in the Hall of Fame.
Huh?
Tommy John deserves to be in tha Hall of Fame, they named a famous surgery after him, he has almost 300 wins, and the poor guy is no longer a human but a surgery, give the guy a break please!!!
And yes for your information I did see him pitch at a real game when I was young
@@j.s.friedman9649 how does the surgery make him a better player?
Good Question, the answer is he has more wins after the surgery than any other player, which makes him the true example of why the surgery works, and all the others are 2nd rate and not the real mcCoy, ahhh 288 wins worth
The problem is they're NOT better than ever.
its not the pitch clock ... pitchers went at a faster rate in the 70/80s pitch clock was needed its 100 percent the increased wear and tare from throwing harder and trying to spin it faster think pitchers are trying throw harder and harder even in jr high and high school these players are having way more ware by the time they go pro then ever before
Someone needs to pick up Bauer
Yall can blame the pitch clock all you want. Yeah it might not be ideal, but the art of pitching has faded over the years. It’s all about velocity and spin rate now.
I'll take movement over mph.....these young kids don't know how to pitch, they were taught to throw as hard as they can.
Amazing what happens when "advanced analytics" only values spin rate and velocity and everything else be damned..... like mechanics.... control.... pitching psychology/strategy. SO many pitchers just grip it and rip it (pun intended) trying to just blow everything by hitters. They aren't pitchers anymore... they're throwers. Give me a PITCHER with excellent mechanics and pinpoint control with an 89-91 mph fastball and about 3 other secondary pitches in his arsenal over a modern pitcher who pretty much just has a fastball, slider, and maybe a changeup.... but little control and dogshit mechanics. Anytime a highly touted pitcher makes his debut, if he throws north of 95-96mph I can pretty much guarantee he'll be on a surgery table within 5 years. Only time i was shockingly wrong was Chris Sale. When he debuted for the white Sox I saw one pitch by him and laughed. His mechanics were/are dogshit. I said he'd have tj surgery within 3 years. He managed to avoid missing significant time for 9 years. But... since 2000..... he's effectively been useless. One could say since 2019 when he managed 25 starts by had a 4.40 ERA.... easy higher than normal for him so likely pitching with a fucked up elbow that whole season. Even with stellar mechanics and throwing around 90-93 mph a TON of stress is placed on the arm. Imagine that though with poor mechanics and on every single pitch going all out THROWING it as hard as you can. The "mystery" of pitchers dropping like flies with arm issues is only a mystery to the willfully ignorant. You know.... "advanced" stat disciples. AKA.... nerds who've infiltrated the game they have never played. The downfall of mlb hasn't been antiquated rules that need changing to "speed up the game." It's the piss poor quality of the product since 2010.... when "sabermetrics" - as it was called then - infiltrated every organization's scouting department. Went from pitchers easily being able to go 7+ innings a start and having long careers.... and the AVERAGE hitter hitting about .260-.265 with a .330-.335 OBP to pitchers who can't even make it through 5 innings without their arm falling off and the average hitter hitting about .240-.245 with an OBP of .310-.315. Hmmmmm..... why are fans slowly running out. I wonder.
terrible take 😂
"I have noticed that many players experience significant increases in their velocity when they move from playing in high school to playing professionally. However, these players are also the ones who are more prone to getting injured. On the other hand, I have also observed that players who are lazy or do not put in enough effort during their training sessions are also more likely to get hurt.
I have a friend who used to pitch at 91 mph when he was 19 years old. After two years, he gained about 7 mph but then suffered a Tommy John injury. In my case, I have always thrown hard without any major elbow issues except for the usual wear and tear from playing for a long time. However, I have never had a velocity spike of more than 5 mph at any point in my career.
From the age of 13 to 19, my velocity gradually increased by 2 to 3 mph. Even after playing professionally, the only thing that increased my average velocity. I believe the chances of me getting injured are relatively low but not nonexistent. Looking back at what Pedro Martinez said, I have always landed at a 45° angle with my front foot. This could be one of the reasons why I have never had major elbow pain."pain.
I think Bauers example makes sense only if you ignore that the runner's risk of snapping his femur the more he times he runs 10k.
Add Wade Miley
WRONG. It's not the mechanics. So much work has been done in perfecting the "mechanics" that there's even these new motion tracking technologies capable of tracking the throwing mechanics in 3d. First, strength is an issue here. A lot of pitchers are taught to avoid or fear weight training because it could accelerate their path towards and it's not true at all. Whether the pitcher and his trainer train directly the throwing arm or go around it or even train the body generally. Second, a special rosen is needed. Yeah, use of spider tack should be encouraged throughout the pro-league. I know, i know. That said, it could massively improve in alleviating the strain on a pitcher's arms, and save hitters from being hit by a ball. Lastly, doping should be allowed in a very limited fashion. Pitchers should be allowed to dope and use some substances post-surgery on their way back to recovery. Of course, this has to be done in a very regulated manner. Ideally, once the pitchers has recovered and is pitching officially on the mound again. There should be no traces of PED substances in his system.
Dustin may looks like a junkie 😂
It's hard to say what's really going on here but my opinion is young kids snapping off breaking balls and playing year-round isn't helping things. By the time a lot of these guys are in their early twenties their ucl's probably look like dry rotted elastic bands.
Studies show that curveballs have the same stress on arm as fastballs
even in youth
othani is gonna get faaaaaat
Baseball guys are weirdos.its the old guys that allow this foolishness. Billionaire owners who do not care about people.the players are not as good as before
The problem with baseball isn’t the pitcher problem.. it’s the modern fans and analytics. Baseball was fine and didn’t have all these problems until people who know nothing of baseball started Joe Bidening up baseball. Go back to how it used to be. You don’t need to throw 100mph w 2500-3000rpm to be a good pitcher.
Free Trevor Bauer!
Ugh Trevor Bauer, can't watch anymore..
crazy idea: each team gets five pitches over 95 mph per game. after that any pitch that exceeds that velocity is called a ball. Offenses get better, pitchers are less hurt, accuracy matters more, you still keep some of the spectacle of crazy fast pitches.
Could even be the food supply getting crappier
The real question is why no one will sign Trevor Bauer? What does he know…
Manfred and co hate him for putting egg on their face during the sticky stuff era. The league for whatever reason was turning a blind eye to it for a period of time, and Trevor was making a lot of noise making them look bad. Not long after he was chased out of the league on unfounded accusations.
I’m sure most of it is mechanics, but I’d be interested in seeing if any of them are juicing, since that reduces the strength of ligaments.
PEDs? No lol.
they’re all juicing buddy 😂
@@poindextertunes sure they are lol
I see MLB putting a MPH cap on pitches... 97+MPH will be a ball. LOL that would suck, but seems like something stupid the MLB would do.
stahp 🤦♂️
Angel Hernandez would still call it a strike
It’s not the speeds that is an issue. It’s the spin rates that causes the issue.
It’s not the pitch clock it’s that everybody seems to need to throw 100 miles an hour.
Greg, Maddox never threw 95 but he’s one of the best ever just learn how to pitch not just throw hard
I don’t think TJ ever threw a pitch over 85-90 MPH. He had very basic mechanics, had low velocity and was very efficient w pitch location. Would like to see more pitchers like this. MLB is so in the toilet in 2024.
Put a limit on Tommy John surgery’s and watch this problem magically go away, watch pitchers learn to throw within their abilities.
The fuck you mean,
why would you ever do that? 😑
@@poindextertunesin my opinion, we need to go back to the baseball ways of the early 00’s. Lower velocity and pitchers pitching full games or as long as they can.
@@snowman9642 Tell that to batters hitting 500ft bombs