The Upgraded 2024 Tesla Model 3: The Best Tesla Vehicle!?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
  • Sandy and Jordan review the new 2024 Tesla newly refreshed Model 3.
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  • @donjones4719
    @donjones4719 2 месяца назад +745

    Remember the $35,000 car Tesla talked about in 2018 and then was criticized for not producing? The 2024 Model 3 costs $39,000. Adjusted for inflation, that'd be $31,350 in 2018. Price mark beaten and it's an incredible value when the you consider all the features.

    • @Matzes
      @Matzes 2 месяца назад +57

      + it's a much better product than what was presented in 2018. So they made it cheaper and better than originally stated

    • @stfon5
      @stfon5 2 месяца назад +29

      Good point.

    • @EndlessBreathDidges
      @EndlessBreathDidges 2 месяца назад +20

      I bought my 2020 model three SR for 36k (I added white seats).

    • @zxdek
      @zxdek 2 месяца назад +71

      Too bad my income only inflated like 1%

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 2 месяца назад +18

      in February 2024 , the Tesla model Y was selling for $35,000.

  • @mikedx2706
    @mikedx2706 2 месяца назад +399

    Maybe Boeing needs to hire Munro Associates to do an investigation of Boeing's quality control procedures.

    • @slwiser1
      @slwiser1 2 месяца назад +32

      Their money is spent on lobbyist to ensure regulations to allow them to do what they do.

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray 2 месяца назад +21

      Boeing has cultural and management problems. (the recent door plug ejection wasn't a design problem but a maintenance quality problem, missing bolts)

    • @Dommas1106
      @Dommas1106 2 месяца назад +22

      Better not. In the end he will end up like John Barnett.
      Don't work with criminals.

    • @foys777
      @foys777 2 месяца назад +2

      😂😂

    • @MarsOzzie
      @MarsOzzie 2 месяца назад +2

      Missing parts and even they taking scrap parts from bins

  • @commuterbranchline8132
    @commuterbranchline8132 2 месяца назад +308

    I cannot wait for the Cybertruck tear down!

    • @mini2nut67
      @mini2nut67 2 месяца назад +5

      Will most likely be the highest viewed series to date. Bring on the Cybertruck!

    • @danubiosalas4231
      @danubiosalas4231 2 месяца назад +3

      Hoisted up already!!

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 2 месяца назад +1

      rather see a garbage truck tbh, similar look but more use cases and can carry more

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 2 месяца назад +2

      @@PazLeBon That’s a matter of opinion. The CT bed is as big as any other truck. If you need more volume, get a truck top as you would for any other truck.

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon 2 месяца назад

      @@davidelliott5843 lol it obviously is not as big as a gargage truck mate, but it kinda looks like one, just stupid :)

  • @DeoVolente1933
    @DeoVolente1933 2 месяца назад +220

    I drove this today and it’s the best driving car I’ve ever driven. Silent, precise, dampened over bumps. Impressive engineering.

    • @JohnnyZenith
      @JohnnyZenith 2 месяца назад +5

      I've driven superior many times.

    • @spacebound1969
      @spacebound1969 2 месяца назад +15

      Yeah yeah sure you have, but for 39k? This model 3 I'm sure is inferior in some respects to other cars, but I guarantee there isn't a single better car at this price point ​@@JohnnyZenith

    • @Areku06
      @Areku06 2 месяца назад +5

      @@spacebound1969especially an EV with almost maintenance, sure bmw might be little better but will cost $10k+ more.

    • @r3x_delta30
      @r3x_delta30 2 месяца назад +5

      @@JohnnyZenithwhat have you driven Johnny?

    • @antoinepageau8336
      @antoinepageau8336 2 месяца назад +6

      Especially compared to previous model 3. It actually drives much more like my 2008 BMW 328 coupe. Comfortable over bumps but you can lean on it in the curves. Tesla really caught up to the germans on ride quality with this one

  • @ricardol1913
    @ricardol1913 2 месяца назад +241

    I am always impressed with how well Jordan describes things. He is very well spoken.

    • @MarsOzzie
      @MarsOzzie 2 месяца назад +18

      Yes he is well informed and nice humble guy. Keep it up guys

    • @MooseOnEarth
      @MooseOnEarth 2 месяца назад +5

      This makes up for Sandy's rather simple (good/bad), emotionally binary (total joy, total disaster) and untechnical (hardly uses technical terms) lingo.

    • @hardyvonwinterstein5445
      @hardyvonwinterstein5445 2 месяца назад +10

      Yep. 'All these interfaces make a symphony of closures'. That's engineering poetry you only get when you couple craftmanship with love. Like Robert Pirsig pointed out in 1974.

    • @klantic2
      @klantic2 2 месяца назад +6

      Yeah. Jordan is great.

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 2 месяца назад +3

      Jordan should've been the Dr facto Cory replacement imo. 👍🏻

  • @Berretotube
    @Berretotube 2 месяца назад +57

    I’m so darn impressed with this upgrade. The Model 3 is already the best car I’ve ever owned- this is a huge evolution, so an amazing car just got even better ❤❤❤

    • @shepherdsknoll
      @shepherdsknoll 2 месяца назад +4

      I’ve owned my Model 3 for 6 years put 105,000 miles on it and in 55 years of driving, it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. There has been no major detractions for me , just slight ones like occasionally having to open the app before unlocking or the sports suspension on a rough road or the front end which I was never a total fan of. The Highland has addressed every aspect of things I would have changed, I cannot wait for the new Performance model to come out.

    • @camwalker1186
      @camwalker1186 2 месяца назад

      Get a date and have sex for the first time, kid.

  • @jashmatash
    @jashmatash 2 месяца назад +12

    As an ex acoustic engineer, you want the glass panes in a laminated window to be different thicknesses. That ensures coincidence regions don't overlap when it comes to noise transmission loss through the glass.

  • @MooseOnEarth
    @MooseOnEarth 2 месяца назад +23

    Thanks to the video editors and cutters to include images of details in the previous model. I liked this visual reference a lot.

  • @JohnCline
    @JohnCline 2 месяца назад +64

    I only had to drive the refreshed Model 3 a mile to know I was going to buy one to replace my current Model 3. I ordered one the moment I got back from the test drive. There is nothing at this price point that can touch it. It is now a real luxury car with premium materials everywhere.

    • @peterbaranyi5027
      @peterbaranyi5027 2 месяца назад +5

      Nekem is rendelj egyet kérlek, 15 éves kia ceed-emet szeretném lecserélni.

    • @dwylhq874
      @dwylhq874 2 месяца назад

      Please share which Model 3 you _currently_ own and why you are upgrading? Thanks.
      We have a 2021 Model 3 … have been waiting for Cybertruck …

    • @JohnCline
      @JohnCline 2 месяца назад +12

      @@dwylhq874 - I have a 2019 Model 3 SR+, I also have a 2021 Model Y. The refreshed Model 3 is better in every conceivable way, quiter, smoother, redesigned interior made with more premium materials, more aerodynamic (which results in greater range), sleeker styling, adaptive headlights which were just approved in the US and will be implemented soon, V4 computer, higher resolution cameras, ventilated seats, glass roof reflects more heat... I could go on.

    • @alexmanojlovic768
      @alexmanojlovic768 Месяц назад

      ​@@peterbaranyi5027Chia Seed??.... 😉😁

    • @peterbaranyi5027
      @peterbaranyi5027 Месяц назад +2

      @@alexmanojlovic768 No chia, it is Korea. 😀

  • @cellman1829
    @cellman1829 2 месяца назад +77

    This is gorgeous. Extremely fast, quiet, refined, comfortable. I thought it was very fun to drive. I love the minimalism, tech , stalkless design. I ordered the M3 LR stealth grey black interior beginning of February. Now today I got my VIN!! Should be ready in a week🎉🎉 super excited my first EV.

    • @edornelas8275
      @edornelas8275 2 месяца назад +11

      Congratulations! I one of the folks that stood in line & put down my $1k deposit before Elon introduced the m3 to the world. I have had mine for 5 years 7 months & have been very pleased with my early model & had been one of the best cars o have ever owned! Realible, fun to drive, low maintenance. I bought it with everything possible $57k & added FSD for 3 K. I will never go back to a ICE car.

    • @JaceTran
      @JaceTran 2 месяца назад +6

      My New model highland Standard Range feels much quicker than its posted acceleration, I don't know why

    • @piercechan
      @piercechan 2 месяца назад +7

      Congrats! You will love it and never go back to gas cars again. Welcome to the Tesla family

    • @cellman1829
      @cellman1829 2 месяца назад +1

      @@edornelas8275 thank you for that. Your experience puts me at ease as this is my first EV and not knowing what to expect. Everyone I speak to love their Teslas and would never go back to another car. I have a feeling I will only buy a Tesla from now on

    • @cellman1829
      @cellman1829 2 месяца назад +1

      @@edornelas8275 oh I forgot to add that is awesome you were one of the first owners of the M3 and still love the car it says a lot

  • @zachansen8293
    @zachansen8293 2 месяца назад +21

    These are the kind of video I come here for. I wish you'd stop all the other noise videos you're doing these days, but these are still as great as they ever were.

  • @JaceTran
    @JaceTran 2 месяца назад +10

    I have driven my new model 3 for 3 weeks, the best car I have had...better than Cadillac, BMW, Lexus, Mustang Mach E...I had in the past.

  • @grmunson7503
    @grmunson7503 2 месяца назад +8

    Sandy and Jordan-excellent together. They are engineers who just come across as knowledgeable, smart, and normal. They are not nerdy nor un-relatable.
    Thanks to both for taking some of their valuable time for the interesting discussion!

  • @joe2mercs
    @joe2mercs 2 месяца назад +23

    This is the first time that I have seen the ‘hook’ on the bottom edge of the door. Without fanfare Tesla has also introduced midline airbags to protect passengers and drivers from colliding with each other in a side impact. Project Highland was no ordinary mid life face lift. The Model 3 was already one of the world’s safest cars but the Tesla team took the time, effort and cost to improve upon it.

    • @connergrim7913
      @connergrim7913 2 месяца назад +3

      They absolutely did. The engineering team puts in a lot of effort, unlike another brand that starts with a T when it comes to their EVs.

    • @tesla_tap
      @tesla_tap 2 месяца назад +1

      Yep. For legacy, they spend most of the time designing a new ugly grill so it can be a "brand new" model. Everything else is the same old crap.

    • @jorganzola1
      @jorganzola1 2 месяца назад

      ​@@connergrim7913 spell it out please, don't be shy 😊

  • @happosai
    @happosai 2 месяца назад +26

    2:41 Another one.. Muscle memory.. but the stalk is missing... LOL

  • @dirkschittko
    @dirkschittko 2 месяца назад +36

    The Model 3 as hatchback or shooting break would be my dream car

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 2 месяца назад +4

      Maybe the model 2 will be a hatchback design for the EU and Spainish market's where small hatches sell very well?
      And yes with how well wagons sell overseas and the upcoming+on sale ev wagons already out? Tesla would do well imo to offer an eu&China only wagon variant of the 3. 👍🏻
      Just like they recently offered a 2 seater model Y cargo edition for France only sales!

    • @lemongavine
      @lemongavine 2 месяца назад +1

      Model Y, in my opinion, is more of a hatchback than an SUV

    • @camwalker1186
      @camwalker1186 2 месяца назад

      Stop trying to have sex with your stupid Tesla and ask a girl for a date before your 40 years old.

    • @dirkschittko
      @dirkschittko 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lemongavinefrom a US point of view you are right, from a european point of view not.

    • @dirkschittko
      @dirkschittko 2 месяца назад +1

      @@4literv6for me, the Model 3 is the sweet spot in size. If only the boot was more accessible.

  • @StalePhish
    @StalePhish 2 месяца назад +29

    The trunk lid wiring harness change is sutely related to NHTSA 21V00D000 recall recarding an issue where repeated opening abd closing would stretch the wiring harness and cause reliability issues with the backup camera.
    Something I hope they fixed that I haven't seen covered is water ingress into the cabin air intake under the frunk lid. Water running down th windshield/firewall drainage channel would splash into the tube feeding the condenser due to a suctioning effect, causing smells to form around the cabin filters.
    I've heard the side impact standards are changing in the next couple years so they took advantage of the refresh to implement the structural change to get ahead of the test.

    • @737smartin
      @737smartin 2 месяца назад +4

      We've had the bad smell from the cabin air system water ingress problem in both of our 3s and both of our Ys.

    • @alexmanojlovic768
      @alexmanojlovic768 Месяц назад +1

      There's a couple of YT videos on how to fix the water ingress problem yourself. I know Tesla ought to, but all cars have annoyances built in that are never addressed by the manufacturers...

  • @jgeorge6081
    @jgeorge6081 2 месяца назад +35

    It handles better than the old model 3? Good God, that’s hard to imagine. My 2020 drives like it’s on rails as it is.

    • @joewiley6927
      @joewiley6927 2 месяца назад +8

      Top speed has been reduced, suspension geometry and dampening also changed. So for most normal driving, it will probably feel a bit more plush and smooth, while still being quite nimble. Get above 120mph and the differences will become more apparent. The older 3's stiffer suspension and dampening will feel much better in this scenario. Not a common one though, and I imagine Tesla is ok with a step away from the performance as they will more than make up for it with the, uh, performance model. So handles better? For most people, most of the time, probably.

    • @richardjones8395
      @richardjones8395 2 месяца назад +7

      From what I've gathered elsewhere (haven't driven it yet), the suspension is a bit softer than the old Model 3 (less firm) and so the handling is not quite as sharp, but still very good. For most people that's probably a good compromise - one of the complaints with Model 3 and Model Y was that the suspension is a bit too firm and harsh over bumps etc. Lars also talked about tuning the frequency of the damping to better absorb bumps, while maintaining handling and steering feel etc. While the standard models are a bit softer to cater for the masses, it seems to me that they are doing a lot more work to differentiate the Performance version with this new Model 3. I suspect the Performance model will be a lot more focused for those who want a sportier drive and handling.

    • @spacebound1969
      @spacebound1969 2 месяца назад +4

      Absolutely the suspension is much softer and more compliant on the new car. This is likely going to be an improvement for most customers since most people aren't pushing the car past 100mph frequently.
      Tesla is likely saving the high level performance experience for the performance trim coming in a few months. I suspect it's suspension will be much more sporty.

    • @dominolehmann8227
      @dominolehmann8227 2 месяца назад +5

      not really. The older one was sportier, faster, more responsive and the 2024 highland has problems with a bouncing tail once you drive faster. They've softened it a little bit to much. But you can improve that by correcting the geometry a little bit. Other than that it is a big improvement over the existing model 3. I've got both at home. 2024 M3 LR and 2022 M3 LR. Former MS90D driver for over 7 years :)
      Just the indicator thing is a deal breaker for many drivers in EU due to roundabouts. But I got used to it fastly.

    • @billstevens3796
      @billstevens3796 2 месяца назад +1

      @joewiley6927
      My '19 Dual Motor 3 starts to wallow over 120mph.

  • @JakubKudlacz
    @JakubKudlacz 2 месяца назад +86

    We got a Highlander! 🎉 That made my day!

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 месяца назад +11

    🙋‍♂️ THANKS SANDY,JORDAN AND THE MUNRO TEAM, FOR THE REVIEW 😎💚💚💚

  • @buck6604
    @buck6604 2 месяца назад +7

    Unfortunately for all other EV manufacturers, Tesla is now light years ahead. Despite the political attacks on Elon for being the defender of free speech, Tesla continues to go from strength to strength. I have owned a Model S for four years now and it still blows me away on a daily basis. Recently, I had a loaner Model 3 for five days and it is an incredible car, seriously feeling like a more responsive and rapid version of an M3 BMW. What an incredible achievement.

  • @thewisr
    @thewisr 2 месяца назад +6

    My wife looked at me as if I was talking a foreign language when I referred to our car's front bumper as front fascia.
    Tell me you've watched too much Munro Live, without telling me you've watched too much Munro live 😅.
    Great video guys and can't wait to get a refreshed Model 3/Y.

    • @thewisr
      @thewisr 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ChristinePerkins-yt7ie not yet! Got a Model Y currently. Was hoping its refresh would follow soon, as I prefer the Y's size. If that takes too long, I'm definitely going to take the new 3 for a spin

  • @aaronbounds1336
    @aaronbounds1336 2 месяца назад +34

    17:19- no issue. Lars has said that they took a look at their very good crash data and discovered a way to make the cars even more safe based on how crashes actually happen to their cars in the real world, not just guessing based on official crash tests.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 2 месяца назад +6

      TESLA designs ALL their Vehicles to be 6 stars in Every catagory.

    • @richardjones8395
      @richardjones8395 2 месяца назад

      Was going to mention the same thing 👍

  • @electricviking
    @electricviking 2 месяца назад +4

    Fantastic video guys, really enjoyed it!

  • @gabormark2294
    @gabormark2294 2 месяца назад +6

    Thanks Sandy and team for an informative walkaround the new Model 3. As always, great to see you

  • @andrewt9204
    @andrewt9204 2 месяца назад +16

    I know the biggest fans will yell at me for thinking the lack of stalks is a dumb idea. I'm sure you can get used to it just like I got used to not having a driver HUD, but I really like operating the stalks. Being able to maneuver in and out of the drive way, especially with multi point turns has got to be so much better.
    Otherwise I really like this update, but I'm still going to keep my 2021 as long as I can. Stalks + US sensors is really nice.
    If they added a bumper cam up there, I could deal with no US. I gotta get less than a foot from the front of my garage, and the accuracy of those US sensors are awesome.

    • @connergrim7913
      @connergrim7913 2 месяца назад +2

      Same. Ultrasonics allowed for good park assist, plus I actually hate the removal of stalks but lke the new interior. I have to pick used with US and stalks or new with updated interior.

    • @LaszloPappBerlin
      @LaszloPappBerlin 2 месяца назад +3

      Agreed. Removing the stalks without steer by wire is a really bad idea compromising security. Removing the US sensors without an appropriate camera suite to see in 360 and objects right in front of the car is also a really bad idea. It cannot function reliably even with the best AI FSD software. And for me removing the warm natural touch of the wooden dash and replacing it with a cold soulless LED light is also a really bad idea - though it is more subjective. Hopefully there will be some aftermarket wooden dashes in the Highland format. After turning off the LED lights I could feel home again with that.

    • @FireWalkMusic
      @FireWalkMusic 2 месяца назад +8

      The lack of stalks was a deal breaker for me. The turn signal buttons are extremely frustrating to use in tight roundabouts, which is what we tend to use instead of intersections here in Europe.. I had my mind set on buying the highland, but changed my mind after test driving it. I've previously driven a model S with the same setup, and utterly hated it.

    • @torchlord11
      @torchlord11 2 месяца назад

      @@FireWalkMusic I'd keep an eye out for companies that have an aftermarket stalk kit, I heard that might wind up happening but have yet to see any. You would think that once the FSD gets good enough it would know that you are still turning and in a roundabout and then keep the turning sensors on someday down the road.

    • @TheVorst
      @TheVorst Месяц назад

      ​@@FireWalkMusic I drive the Highland in Europe for 3 weeks. I completely got adapted to it on the roundabouts. On a sharp roundabout, you just press on the lower button on the right side. For me it is easier than with stocks. If you only have driven the Highland for half an hour. I can understand the frustration, but your muscle memory learns fast. I had BMW's in the past and a Model 3 AWD. The Highland Model 3 RWD I have is just incredible to drive, and what a difference compared to the previous Model 3. Also the efficiency is that good, that it has slightly longer range than my previous long range.

  • @OrganicStuff1
    @OrganicStuff1 2 месяца назад +27

    You know Juniper refresh is gonna be crazy

    • @connergrim7913
      @connergrim7913 2 месяца назад +3

      Yep! Hoping its for MY25 and not MY26, so people who are holding out can buy the thing.

  • @ToneGuruLA
    @ToneGuruLA 2 месяца назад +11

    I have a CT dual motor on order...
    ... but after the M3 reviews... I may just go with the car.
    Either way, Tesla is def crushing it.
    Thank you Elon, the Tesla team... and of course Munro and Co..

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 2 месяца назад +5

    It just keeps getting better cheers guys

  • @peterzerfass4609
    @peterzerfass4609 2 месяца назад +7

    Washer bottle placement is definitely (at least in part) for consumer convenience. I have an older Model 3 and it's a bit tricky to get washer fluid in with some of the bottle geometries you can buy without some spillage. Happy to see that they moved it.

  • @rl1111rl
    @rl1111rl 2 месяца назад +45

    The windshield wiper reservoir cap is likely in that new position because it's easier to reach.

    • @surf-n-turf
      @surf-n-turf 2 месяца назад +14

      Exactly, and no spillage into the storage bin.

    • @MrAdopado
      @MrAdopado 2 месяца назад +1

      @@surf-n-turf Spillage could also drip down onto the wiring harness in its previous position ...

    • @spacebound1969
      @spacebound1969 2 месяца назад +3

      It's probably a factor but like they said plumbing and or relocation of the reservoir is an arduous task and I don't know they would commit to it without other benefits besides improved customer input.

    • @vinumcopia9850
      @vinumcopia9850 2 месяца назад

      I've read and seen mention of Tesla planning to add a HEPA filter to the model 3. In that case, they would need every cubic inch of space that they can free up in that area; and moving the wiper fluid bottle makes sense.

    • @Jamesdean16
      @Jamesdean16 2 месяца назад

      What's the point when the wipers don't work properly majority of the time anyway.

  • @jaapboode2719
    @jaapboode2719 2 месяца назад +5

    Nice to see that Sandy wants to operate the turn signals behind the steering wheel when turning right after the wash board. So they are not there.

  • @radicalrick9587
    @radicalrick9587 2 месяца назад +11

    *Sandy and team, thank you for a great review as always.*

  • @Erbil1980
    @Erbil1980 2 месяца назад +5

    I am driving a Volvo and a Tesla model 3 2024, and I truly love the Tesla a lot.
    One thing I am struggling with to get used to and FIND is the indicator lights buttons on the steering wheel while driving around roundabouts and the steering wheel is upside down and rotating 😅
    Really funny hearing Sandy imitating engineers fighting over inches, I am an engineer and been there so many times 😂😅

    • @MsMy2011
      @MsMy2011 28 дней назад

      Think of the right signal button as a clock hand, it's always the one going forward first

  • @gepetotube
    @gepetotube 2 месяца назад +6

    It's always a treat to watch your videos. Love the engineering insights.

  • @tom0kiely
    @tom0kiely 2 месяца назад +9

    They didn’t mention the better looking front bumper the wraps around without the ugly flat middle from the first iteration. It really does make it a great looking car.

    • @torchlord11
      @torchlord11 2 месяца назад +1

      I actually didn't mind the old look but I have to agree that this new one looks so much better. I saw the performance front end leak which is an amalgamation of the previous with the new front end and I think a lot of people will really like it.

  • @cellman1829
    @cellman1829 2 месяца назад +33

    I'm glad you posted this after Doug's lack luster review 👍🏻

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 2 месяца назад +15

      DOUG, is not even an Engineer.
      DOUG , is a FAKE tuber.

    • @marcinmerrimack1726
      @marcinmerrimack1726 2 месяца назад +10

      You don’t need to be an engineer to have an informed opinion. Doug has driven and evaluated many more cars than Munro.

    • @Fitforacting
      @Fitforacting 2 месяца назад

      Fakr? ​@@markplott4820

    • @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_
      @Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@marcinmerrimack1726You can cook many meals without getting good at it.

    • @ManuNarang
      @ManuNarang 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@@marcinmerrimack1726is that why Doug couldn't even get the names of the paint options right?

  • @Pico_444
    @Pico_444 2 месяца назад +9

    When will Tesla incorporate steer by wire on all of its vehicles? It would make sense to combine the narrow steering range (

    • @tesla_tap
      @tesla_tap 2 месяца назад

      It's quite a bit more expensive, so it might come to the S/X at some point, but maybe not. Unlikely to appear in the 3/Y. It also relies in part on the 48V system, and Tesla has already stated they have no current plans to retrofit 48V into existing models which would be a major impediment.

    • @LaszloPappBerlin
      @LaszloPappBerlin 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@tesla_tapthat is why they should have kept the stalks. At least for the turn signals. At least in Europe with tons of roundabouts.

    • @FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
      @FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 2 месяца назад

      Vehicles made at GigaTexas will be the first with steers.

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 2 месяца назад +4

    I haven't driven the 24, but the 21 I drove felt like the chassis was milled out of a piece of aluminum. I can't wait to try one of these.

  • @germanium1872
    @germanium1872 2 месяца назад +53

    1:34 He reaches for the turn signal lever 😂

    • @reinplat
      @reinplat 2 месяца назад +6

      "Phantom Reaching" is real.

    • @haselhofler
      @haselhofler 2 месяца назад +5

      Later he praises Tesla for removing them 🤔

    • @DummyLooks
      @DummyLooks 2 месяца назад +8

      @@haselhofler You can praise it from an engineering point of view but not like it from a driving point of view.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 2 месяца назад

      Hand gesture is all you need in a tesla 🎉

    • @b9eda9ad
      @b9eda9ad 2 месяца назад +2

      Well maybe they are good at asking customers what they need but it also depends which customers they asked. I bet they did not ask those in cities with a lot of roundabouts. Good luck using buttons on the wheels on roundabouts of different sizes. Got a lot of new small ones recenlty in my city in Poland and have hard time thinking how I would use those buttons on them.

  • @Ondar007
    @Ondar007 2 месяца назад +9

    Add drive-by-wire and you have no complaints from missing stalks 😁

  • @haselhofler
    @haselhofler 2 месяца назад +14

    21:25 can't believe Munro praises the removal of the stalks 😅

    • @nceevh
      @nceevh 2 месяца назад +7

      Yeah, that's my biggest gripe with this. Stalks and parking sensors.

    • @jonathangwynne1917
      @jonathangwynne1917 2 месяца назад

      It's a good idea.

    • @scottbreseke716
      @scottbreseke716 2 месяца назад

      He can walk and chew gum at the same time too.

    • @dominolehmann8227
      @dominolehmann8227 2 месяца назад +2

      yeah as long as you only drive lane by lane in the US it's easy. But with all the roundabouts in other countries it gets a little bit annyoing.. still you can live with it :)

    • @haselhofler
      @haselhofler 2 месяца назад

      sure you can live with it. But from a customer and safety perspective, there's just not a single upside.@@dominolehmann8227

  • @stephen8623
    @stephen8623 2 месяца назад +2

    Love your no-nonsense (full of pertinent facts) reviews. Thanks gentlemen.

  • @user-qs4io9gi3g
    @user-qs4io9gi3g 2 месяца назад +4

    The new shocks are (Koni) FSD (frequency sensitive dampeners). According to a Tesla engineer on Jay Leno's Garage. They have two sets of piston vales one for high HZ and an other for normal dampening. I put them on my Mini Cooper S and they worked wonderfully.

  • @GrandHuevotes
    @GrandHuevotes 2 месяца назад +10

    For 2023 I noticed Tesla has two lamination strategies on the front of the Model Y depending on supplier. One has equal thickness and the other has one thick and one thin. I compared two model Ys with two different glass suppliers. It was a while ago so I forgot the name. I think it was American Glass Company and Saint Gobain.

  • @rvo8915
    @rvo8915 2 месяца назад +21

    Maybe you have not so much roundabouts in the US, but here in Norway and the rest of Europe we have a lot of them.
    Using buttons on the steeringwheel instead of a stick at the steering collom is a pain in the A.. when you drive into a town with only roundabouts instead of level crossings.
    And in town you have roundabouts every few hundred meter of all sizes.
    Try to press the right button to signal right when you take a small roundabout and your steeringwheel is 130 degrees turned upsidedown in a fraction of a second........
    Removing the turnsignal stick is a big mistake and is a safety issue in my opinion.

    • @joehowe9532
      @joehowe9532 2 месяца назад +1

      There are lots of roundabouts in the US and more being added every day. No one, and I mean no one. Use is there a turn signal in a roundabout, and there’s really no reason to unless they’re multi lane roundabouts. Most of them in my area are single lane wear a turn signal is not important.

    • @markedwards4879
      @markedwards4879 2 месяца назад +7

      @@joehowe9532 in larger roundabouts not using indicators will get you a ticket.
      Removing them is dangerous and dumb.

    • @markedwards4879
      @markedwards4879 2 месяца назад +6

      100%. Unless drive by wire the lack of indicators is stupid and dangerous.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 2 месяца назад +2

      @rvo8915
      When you're on a roundabout with 130° lock on, it's not the kind of roundabout you indicate to leave.
      .
      You indicate left (in your case) *as you approach*
      The time between the "previous exit and yours is so small, you don't have time to indicate right, and anyway everyone saw you indicate as you approached(?)
      .
      On a LARGER (multi lane?) roundabout, you're not applying that angle of steering.

    • @tesla_tap
      @tesla_tap 2 месяца назад +1

      We have roundabouts here, and I've never had a problem signaling my exit. It's less difficult with wheel buttons than when your hands are at 12 and 6 in the turn and having to let go with one hand to get to that turn signal stalk. Now if you take a roundabout at 80 mph, yes you need to really wrap the wheel to make a turn and any type of turn signal is going to be difficult. Fortunately, few drive roundabouts at high speed and live to talk about it.

  • @keatontaylor3612
    @keatontaylor3612 2 месяца назад +6

    As a model Y owner I can easily hear the sloshing of the windshield wiper fluid when it is about half full. I wonder if noise is a concern and a major reason they moved the windshield wiper fluid bottle.

  • @SS-yw7vo
    @SS-yw7vo 2 месяца назад +4

    The suspension is great

  • @MrBadgas
    @MrBadgas 2 месяца назад +17

    Great to see you two doing videos together. My two favorite presenters on your team.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 2 месяца назад +2

      well, Cory is OFF the Munro team.

    • @MrBadgas
      @MrBadgas 2 месяца назад +3

      @@markplott4820 I know Cory is off. I really miss him and wish him all the best. It’s his time to grow in another direction I suppose.

  • @mattlau
    @mattlau 2 месяца назад +12

    The removal of the signal stalks is definitely a polarizing choice. OG front end looks better, but this rear end looks better.

    • @dedaloskprs9013
      @dedaloskprs9013 2 месяца назад

      If they used a steering wheel like the one in Citroens of the mid 2000s it would not be as bad

    • @FireWalkMusic
      @FireWalkMusic 2 месяца назад +3

      Indeed. It's very unpractical to use here in the EU where there are tight roundabouts everywhere. I really can't stand it. The car just lost it's five star Euro NCAP safety rating because of this. Not surprised, because it forces you to constantly take your eyes off the road in a critical situation to look down at the wheel to figure out where the buttons are before you can actually use them. Really stupid design for EU roads. It probably works well in the US though, where they'll be able to engage the turn signals before they actually start turning the wheel 99,9% of the time since they mostly use intersections instead of roundabouts like the EU.

    • @user-iw4ty3jx9m
      @user-iw4ty3jx9m 2 месяца назад +2

      Yet they have no problem forcing you to look down at your speed every 3 seconds to avoid “speeding” rather than just letting you be engaged with the road and drive how you see fit. So it’s a BS argument.

    • @FireWalkMusic
      @FireWalkMusic 2 месяца назад

      @@user-iw4ty3jx9m You don't have to look down to check your speed every 3 seconds. You can just enable cruise control or drive at a steady speed. Checking your speed is optional.
      In a roundabout however it's different, because it's a situation that forces you to use the turn signals, and you then HAVE to look down, taking your eyes off the road in a critical situation with cars all around you.
      Either that or just not use the turn signals at all. Neither is safe. This is why Euro NCAP is revoking their flawless 5 star safety rating.
      It's a bad design! Done purely for cost cutting purposes.
      Norwegian driving schools have already started banning the tesla model 3 because they say it's distracting and unsafe, and that they can't have a car that causes their students to fail their test in roundabouts.
      I've used this for a while in the new model S, and I've also tried the new model 3 (it's the same system) and it really is a distraction in tight roundabouts. Even when you manage to find the button, it's way too easy to press the wrong one, and they are also not as responsive as they should have been, so oftentime it doens't even engange. It's quite frustrating to use to be honest.

  • @ElliottNest39
    @ElliottNest39 2 месяца назад +45

    “…the Munro test track, known as Featherstone Road…” 😂

    • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
      @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 месяца назад +4

      WE HAVE TEST TRACKS ALL OVER OHIO 😞🤷‍♂️

    • @ElliottNest39
      @ElliottNest39 2 месяца назад +2

      @@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Plenty in Indiana, too.

    • @user-pi1kn8dg2s
      @user-pi1kn8dg2s 2 месяца назад +1

      😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
      @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ElliottNest39 MY SYMPATHIES 😅

    • @tomwojcik7896
      @tomwojcik7896 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Exactly! the whole Detroit area is one giant test track of poor roads. Fun trivia: when scientists discovered that the dinosaurs went extinct due to a massive asteroid, they first looked for the crater on Detroit area roads.

  • @MarkSparks-xd9yy
    @MarkSparks-xd9yy 2 месяца назад +18

    getting rid of the stalks results in turning the wipers on in one spot & changing their speed in another. A dumb idea. Bring back the stalk or put a wiper switch with speed control on the dash.

    • @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry
      @BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry 2 месяца назад

      Hitting the wiper button on the wheel let's you adjust speed with the right scroll wheel

  • @janvanrees7055
    @janvanrees7055 2 месяца назад +2

    Saw you reaching for the indicator stalk before using the buttons. Here in Europe these buttons are a no go because of the many roundebouts.

  • @techiheed1845
    @techiheed1845 2 месяца назад +2

    Good to see team back in action again.

  • @digitalbladeca
    @digitalbladeca 2 месяца назад +7

    Fantastic vehicle. Very refined in every way.

  • @piperofsimms
    @piperofsimms 2 месяца назад +3

    We appreciate this and it was a very nice look at the car. Thank you Sandy and Jordan.

  • @FrankGallagherr
    @FrankGallagherr 2 месяца назад +95

    Tesla is the best car company ever! No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealership, No catalytic converter and as fast as a $650,000 Lamborghini.

    • @marcinmerrimack1726
      @marcinmerrimack1726 2 месяца назад +7

      Elon bot

    • @radicalrick9587
      @radicalrick9587 2 месяца назад +11

      *And that's just the Appetizer, the main meal is yet to come.*

    • @Pauljefferson27
      @Pauljefferson27 2 месяца назад

      Do you also own a tesla model?

    • @rouchar
      @rouchar 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@marcinmerrimack1726Naw, you just upset 'cause he's 100% right. I dislike Elon but absolutely love Tesla and engineering teams behind it. You're not getting such an EV for the money anytime soon.

    • @nibotkram7743
      @nibotkram7743 2 месяца назад +3

      T car’s forever.

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 месяца назад +1

    THANKS ERIC ,FOR ENLIGHTENING US…PUTTING THE LIGHT 💡 WHERE WE COULD SEE… I also love ❤️ the cleaner, smoother, simpler lines, and features ,THANKFUL SUE SUGGESTED IT🤗💚💚💚

  • @LaszloPappBerlin
    @LaszloPappBerlin 2 месяца назад +10

    From an engineering standpoint this car seems to be a great leap in evolution. However I found the wooden interior in my M3 much warmer and closer to nature, than a cold LED light would ever be able to produce as a feeling and atmosphere in the car. Hopefully they will at least allow to regulate the strength of the light (instead of just turning it on and off), to make it less disturbing at night.

  • @gobfranklin6759
    @gobfranklin6759 2 месяца назад +3

    Appreciate the great detail!

  • @Stidfolle
    @Stidfolle 2 месяца назад +28

    That's a nice Cybertruck in the back there. 😬

    • @ToyotaKTM
      @ToyotaKTM 2 месяца назад +3

      Oh, I thought that was a fridge on wheels.

    • @gmv0553
      @gmv0553 2 месяца назад

      No such thing as a nice Cybertruck! $120,000 for a truck with low range and a terrible charging curve! The Silverado ev is king of the ev pickups!

    • @connergrim7913
      @connergrim7913 2 месяца назад

      @@gmv0553Silverado EV dosen't even EXIST for consumers yet. Range is honestly impressive considering the cells are 4680 on all models. Same for charging curve, better than MY 4680.

  • @DalmatCroat
    @DalmatCroat 2 месяца назад +1

    Cant wait to get my hand on one. So good looking,quiet, SCREEN in the back for kids.. LOVE IT

  • @Voiceofreason772
    @Voiceofreason772 2 месяца назад

    I always learn so much about automotive engineering on this channel. Fascinating!

  • @marshonmellows
    @marshonmellows 2 месяца назад +7

    Very refined!

  • @JAM_2024
    @JAM_2024 2 месяца назад +2

    I wonder what impact removing the stalks will have on sales especially in Europe where they have plenty of roundabouts

  • @johnthomas5806
    @johnthomas5806 2 месяца назад +2

    thanks for this review gentlemen

  • @johandahlin4201
    @johandahlin4201 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for your excellent content. Always a pleasure when Sandy is on and share a lifetime of experience and knowledge. We all love "the old fart"! 👍🏻

  • @HourRomanticist
    @HourRomanticist 2 месяца назад +20

    Cybertruck video coming soon?

  • @gkicosev
    @gkicosev 2 месяца назад +5

    01:32 can't go against that muscle memory of using the indicator stalks... ;)

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf 2 месяца назад

    Amazing work Thank you!

  • @360compass
    @360compass 2 месяца назад

    Great narrative, Jordan. Look forward to seeing you on more videos.

  • @1944chevytruck
    @1944chevytruck 2 месяца назад +3

    THANKS!

  • @tomtraining
    @tomtraining 2 месяца назад +6

    Great video guys 👍

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks 👍

    • @tomtraining
      @tomtraining 2 месяца назад

      @@MunroLive Holy Moly....The Legend Sandy has replied to me....🤠You absolut made my day....👍 Thank you great Sandy....Regards from Switzerland Lucerne

  • @GOVAUS1
    @GOVAUS1 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for going over terrible road. This is the biggest improvement to me. Once MY gets this kind of lift, it will be truly incredible.

  • @sreville
    @sreville 2 месяца назад +2

    Now THAT was a cheeky reveal! 😍 Hella keen for the Cybertruck pull down!

  • @sirousmohseni4
    @sirousmohseni4 2 месяца назад +3

    Excellent video

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @TheGearHunter
    @TheGearHunter 2 месяца назад +8

    Your thoughts on the imminent update to the Model Y (Juniper)…
    The Cybertruck now has steer-by-wire, the updated Model 3 has deleted the indicator stalks, do you think it’s possible that the New Model Y could arrive with steer-by-wire?

    • @connergrim7913
      @connergrim7913 2 месяца назад

      MY refresh COULD have steer by wire w/o mech backup like Cybertruck, but will probably be "model 3 but SUV" like current, so no steer by wire?

    • @tesla_tap
      @tesla_tap 2 месяца назад

      Unlikley to have steer-by-wire. Quite a bit more costly, and less need in a lighter car like the Y. Still, it would be cool! Also, Tesla has said Juniper is not imminent - expected next year.

  • @user-pi1kn8dg2s
    @user-pi1kn8dg2s 2 месяца назад +2

    🔥🔥🔥❤ Last words - it's funny and extremely good qualit mark for Tesla, and they Tesla Model 3 Upgraded!

  • @ADOENDRA
    @ADOENDRA 2 месяца назад +1

    I see them more and more here in Belgium.
    Thanks for the review.

  • @aleckermit
    @aleckermit 2 месяца назад +9

    Taking delivery of mine tomorrow!

  • @rebodyking7584
    @rebodyking7584 2 месяца назад +3

    This is the first time I ever felt like Sandy being biased!
    To me buy a model s if you want a softer ride.
    The model 3’s benchmark was a BMW, not everyone wants or needs a soft ride.
    The stalks are more desired than they aren’t for most drivers. The buttons don’t function in real life as well as the tried and true stalks, something don’t need to be fixed or replaced.
    All in all, like BMW, Mercedes, if you want a plusher ride, by a 7 series or s class, if you want a more sporting experience you by a 3 series, or a c series,
    Now I understand that Tesla doesn’t yet have a middle experience vehicle like the 5 series or the e class, and that the model 3 kinda fits both categories to a degree, so I suppose as I’m typing that maybe sandy is correct after all with the softer ride as a compliment to the platform, and perhaps the performance model is where Tesla can continue to give those of us who specifically purchased the model 3 as the Electric 3 series competitor it is.

    • @alexmanojlovic768
      @alexmanojlovic768 Месяц назад

      Not many😂 people can afford the bigger BMWs/Mercs. What an asinine comment!! "Let them eat cake".... 🤡

  • @PeterKyllesbeck
    @PeterKyllesbeck 2 месяца назад +2

    Turn signals are required for roundabouts (you may signal left at entering when leaving at the last exit and always right by leaving any exit - at least In Europe) and then having the switch on the steering wheel makes it almost impossible. You always know where the stalk for turning light is.
    Having steering by wire that would not require you to move your hands and then getting rid of the stalk seems OK.

  • @carljaekle
    @carljaekle 2 месяца назад +1

    Excellent report. I own a 2021 Model 3 and test drove the 2024. Big improvements in ride quality, and noise reduction. One point, the heat exchanger at the front of the car will get cold in the winter, and hot in the summer, so it's not going to heat the windshield washer fluid in the winter. It's a heat pump. In the winter the hot side heats the interior and the cold side would be the front heat exchanger.

  • @flemmingsortkjaer6897
    @flemmingsortkjaer6897 2 месяца назад +3

    Removal of the the indicator stalks are a huge mistake by Tesla. just see Sandy reaching for them by reflex several times on his Featherstone Road

  • @golfzaaaa
    @golfzaaaa 2 месяца назад +5

    I wish The model2 redwood will come with an option for 3 motors and 100kw pack. I just love hot hatch.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 2 месяца назад

      not likely, as its a MASS MARKET $20,000 k car.

    • @mystisith3984
      @mystisith3984 2 месяца назад

      Hot hatches are definitely doing a come back in Europe & I'm seeing N Americans asking for them too (feeling like Rivian got more interest for their R3 than their R2 but I could be wrong).

    • @connergrim7913
      @connergrim7913 2 месяца назад

      @@mystisith3984yeah, I am very excited to see more on R3 and more specifically R3X.

  • @tomturnbull3723
    @tomturnbull3723 2 месяца назад +1

    Putting the washer fluid reservoir where it is now simply makes it easier for the owner to fill it.

  • @nobrien1
    @nobrien1 2 месяца назад +1

    I am certainly loving mine that I picked up yesterday!

  • @romanwowk4269
    @romanwowk4269 2 месяца назад +4

    Cybertruck in the background about to get torn down 👀

  • @qingyuhu
    @qingyuhu 2 месяца назад +3

    As much as I love my MY I still miss my M3, this thing looks amazing! My dream car would be the Plaid M3.

    • @TheLastMoccasin
      @TheLastMoccasin 2 месяца назад +1

      The Ludicrous version of the new Model 3 has been spotted. Tri motor mini Plaid it seems.

    • @richardjones8395
      @richardjones8395 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TheLastMoccasin In the interview with Jay Leno, Lars said that there wasn't enough room for two rear motors, so I doubt there will be a tri-motor version. From the various 'rumours' it does look like the rear motor will have a nice boost in power though and Tesla seem to be doing a lot more work to differentiate the Performance model this time around. Look forward to seeing what changes they've made.

    • @TheLastMoccasin
      @TheLastMoccasin 2 месяца назад

      @@richardjones8395 You are correct. Sorry, their drip drip drip method of releasing info along with all the speculation is confusing AF!

  • @SalaamQatanani
    @SalaamQatanani 2 месяца назад +1

    Looking forward to future videos on this car. Interested to see the other NVH and suspension changes.

  • @noahlazega
    @noahlazega 2 месяца назад

    Nice and detailed video! I pickup mine in 4 days and I cannot wait, it’ll be my first Tesla!!🎉

  • @wy3131
    @wy3131 2 месяца назад +5

    No doubt about it, it’s a fantastic upgrade to my 2021 GigaShanghai build, though that one was already a very nice EV. This is truly German beating for comfort performance and ease of driving, finally incredible value.

  • @jeffreysteijn9324
    @jeffreysteijn9324 2 месяца назад +3

    They definitely pulled off the cover in the frunk off camera 🤣🤣

  • @MrAdopado
    @MrAdopado 2 месяца назад +1

    Regarding the rear hinge on the trunk and the change in the wiring harness ... there had indeed been issues on the previous version and had been the subject of a recall to provide more protection. This will be the reason for the re-design. The reason for the washer bottle relocation is so you don't spill so much ... and in the previous location that spillage could drip onto wiring loom connections.

  • @creatorgenerator1998
    @creatorgenerator1998 2 месяца назад +2

    My '19 M3 SR+ feels EVERY imperfection in the roads. I've had a Model S loaner once or twice and that was smooooooooth.

  • @danapeck5382
    @danapeck5382 2 месяца назад +3

    Thanks, nice complement to the Lars and Franz segment, really enjoying the dynamic between you two, all the best

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  2 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @insignio1
    @insignio1 2 месяца назад +8

    You can see this is an US channel. Those missing stalks are for me (as someone from Europe which is littered with roundabouts) the biggest reason to not buy that model 3 when the time is there. My current model 3 is 1 year old and I would really like to have all those upgrades but boy, I would miss those stalks.

    • @tesla_tap
      @tesla_tap 2 месяца назад +2

      Likley you'd be used to stalkless in less that a week. It's really a non-issue. I still signal fine in roundabouts with the stalkless design - just different, not difficult.

    • @LaszloPappBerlin
      @LaszloPappBerlin 2 месяца назад +2

      ​​@@tesla_tapI would not try for a week getting used to it. Security relevant features must just work from day one. I am also a happy owner of a 2020 M3, and the revamp seems interesting, but this is a dealbreaker for me too. This is definitely a bad decision and an unjustifiable trade-off in my view - especially in Europe.

    • @LIamaLlama554
      @LIamaLlama554 Месяц назад

      @@LaszloPappBerlinyour loss

  • @evinco6954
    @evinco6954 2 месяца назад +1

    Good job Jordan, good job Munro👍

  • @user-to2rf1rj5v
    @user-to2rf1rj5v 2 месяца назад +2

    9:09 they did have an issue with pinching on some 2018/19 Model 3's that took out the back camera. They did a recall a few years ago and fixed the ones that were problematic (neither of ours were). So I assume these changes are to alleviate any chance of that.

  • @airparnes
    @airparnes 2 месяца назад +2

    Improved rear seat thigh support and better rain sensing technology would be a welcome improvement :)

    • @torchlord11
      @torchlord11 2 месяца назад

      I've seen some beta test drives of the new FSD 12 where they said the functionality of the auto-wiper system was getting a drastic improvement but I'm not sure if this improvement was tied to FSD.